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  • Ask the Administrator: ABD Seeks JOB

    By Dean Dad September 28, 2007 6:14 am

    A returning correspondent writes:

    I am in the midst of completing my dissertation,
    wrestling with 250 pages of text at the moment but I
    should have everything wrapped up this spring. I
    didn't plan on going on the job market until I was
    well and truly done, but a job has just been
    advertised that is so bang-on that I'd be a fool not
    to apply. The place (just a shy of ivy league) is a
    long shot but what they've advertised has me written
    all over it and I'm wondering how best to deal with
    some issues that, field and expertise aside, might
    make me look less-than-ideal.

    1. I am a citizen of the country (USA) where the
    position is located, but I don't live there now and
    without stating it I won't look like a citizen (none
    of my post-secondary education is in the US). Should I
    state that I am a citizen up front just so that it is
    clear that there aren't any immigration issues?

    2. It has taken me longer than average to complete my
    PhD because of a series of life events over which I
    had no control (deaths, illness, that sort of thing).
    How do I address the gap in my record (no pubs, no
    conferences, no progress, but I did teach), or do I
    even mention it at all? Would this be something to
    address in an interview if I am lucky enough to get
    one?

    3. How does one deal with the ABD thing? What phrases
    do I use that convey that I really am chugging along
    and almost done?

    Thank you Dean Dad and anyone else who can help answer
    these questions!--------

    Since the questions are numbered, I'll address them in order.

    1. Yes.
    2. Don't mention it. Save it for the interview.
    3. There's the rub...

    "I'm almost done with the dissertation" ranks right up there with "the check is in the mail" and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." It could be true. Or it could be sincere, but mistaken (the most common one, I think). Or it could be a flat-out lie.

    In my time at PU, we sometimes simply culled any ABD candidates from the pool, period. We had seen enough (and known enough) people who came on board (there or elsewhere) swearing to high heaven that they were this close, only to have it drag out for years. Some places have adopted a de facto degree-in-hand requirement. (At my cc, we don't require Ph.D.'s, though we do prefer them.) I once posted my binary typology of dissertations:

    The Two Types of Dissertations:

    1. Done, defended, degree in hand.

    2. Other.

    That may seem cold, but it's based in fact.

    The places that don't actually disqualify ABD's will still, in all likelihood, have a "show me" attitude towards them. Have you published any of your chapters anywhere? How many chapters are completed? Is the defense actually scheduled (meaning, a specific date)? Other than sincere assurances, what proof can you offer that you're actually "chugging along and almost done"?

    More broadly, don't go in with excuses, assurances, or apologies. For heaven's sake, don't tell shaggy dog stories about your life to justify your lack of production. Go in like you own the place. Show them how wonderfully interesting, connected, and productive you are, and don't play defense until you're forced to. And even then, change the subject as quickly as possible.

    One of the harder psychological shifts in this line of work is going abruptly from grad student peon to Professor. You need to walk the walk if you're going to do this.

    Which raises another possibility. There's no such thing as The Dream Job. Job openings come and go. (Too few come, but that's another issue.) Applying for jobs takes time and psychic energy away from other things, like, say, finishing your dissertation. If your funding has run out and you just plain need the work, then the point is moot, but if you have the option to stay off the market until you're done, I'd recommend giving it serious thought.

    Good luck!

    Wise and worldly readers -- have you found an effective way around the ABD issue? Or should she finish first?

    Have a question? Ask the Administrator at deandad (at) gmail (dot) com.

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Comments on Ask the Administrator: ABD Seeks JOB

  • Posted by Chuck on September 28, 2007 at 9:35am EDT
  • We consider ABD's in our applicant pools, but they are generally not as competitive because they do not have as many publications or as much teaching experience. An ABD should state the expected completion date of their dissertation and the planned date of their defense. If this person's skills are truly unique, then perhaps being ABD will be less of an obstacle. I wouldn't discourage anyone from applying for any job, but realistically, they may not have much of a chance of making the short list. This may be true of many recent grads with degree in hand too. I agree with the answers to Q1 & Q2.

  • ABD Woes
  • Posted by GK on September 28, 2007 at 1:35pm EDT
  • I have been filling a budget line at my college for a three years and have gotten very positive reviews from both admin and students. The college is now advertising my job! I am ABD but expect to finish up three months after the position begins. After solid service I can apply but the college has a tradition of not hiring ABD's not even on a non-tenure track basis (although there have been an exception or two).

    I cannott afford not to work and finishing up my PhD is contingent upon my working. Couple that with the fact that I am a diabetic and cannot afford to be without health insurance.

    I have only been reappointed on a year to year basis as a truly temporary faculty member. Any suggestions?

  • my experience as ABD on the philosophy market
  • Posted by New Phil PhD on September 30, 2007 at 12:40pm EDT
  • I tested the market the past two years as an ABD in philosophy. (In philosophy, we do the bulk of our interviewing for TT positions in December.)

    I was close enough to being finished the first year that I could have wrapped it up (barely) in time to take a position then. My director addressed this in his letter of recommendation. I had three publications (two refereed conference proceedings, and one co-authored chapter), and several conference presentations on my cv. I got five interviews. I got invited to campus by one school, but didn't get the offer.

    The second year I had a defense scheduled, but I had to send out my applications a month before the defense. Again, my director addressed this in his letter. I had another paper and another presentation or two on the cv. I got one interview for a TT position, but didn't get invited to campus.

    My director is fairly young, but seems to be well thought of by several people in his field. The PhD program I went to (I defended in December, but didn't graduate officially until May) is mid- to lower-mid-tier.

    I have applied for jobs primarily at regional 4-year colleges and small liberal arts colleges. I've been looking for a 3/3 teaching load and I don't care if the school has a grad program.

    While I can't confirm it, I'd guess that my initial good fortune had something to do with who else was (or the number of who else's who were) on the market at the same time.

  • ABD's and jobs
  • Posted by sudy on October 1, 2007 at 3:40pm EDT
  • I am coming at the ABD question from a different perspective. Years ago, when I was on the job market as an ABD, I GOT the job. But, as it turned out, I did not keep that job because I did not finish the PHD. I would advise anyone in that position to think about priorities. What is a year now, if the PHD can be finished? A PHD in hand will assure that future oportunites are exactly that: future oportunites. I have stayed quite successfully in academia, and I do have a very good job now, but I do at times have that "What if...?" question. Do things in order: finish and then figure out what comes next.

    Signed, Been There and Done That

  • Oy
  • Posted by Sara on October 2, 2007 at 9:10am EDT
  • The person writing in claims no pubs, no conferences (experiences presenting?), and no dissertation completed yet is thinking about applying to what sounds like a research-heavy place (close-to Ivy was the classification, I think). Based on what exactly would the hiring committee think to short list this candidate? I can't imagine the person would have any chance at this job unless the letters of recommendation made the candidate sound like someone who walks on water. However, given the track record, I don't quite see why an advisor would be prompted to do that.