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  • Ask the Administrator: What About Teaching High School?

    By Dean Dad March 30, 2008 6:46 pm

    A longtime reader writes:

    I'll be starting a Ph.D. program in History in the Fall. I know the risks, and I took three years after I got my B.A. to decide whether academic life was really that important to me. In the meantime, though, I've done a number of different jobs. Most recently, I've been substitute teaching in a few local school districts.

    It's given me some opportunity to think about teaching, and high school teaching in particular. As I
    see it, a serious problem with secondary education in America is that, broadly speaking, there is too little cross-pollination between high schools and the academy. There's very little contact between teachers and professors, and teachers by and large don't have access to good academic resources (libraries, journals, etc.).

    Quite obviously, this isn't the most serious problem facing secondary education in America, but it does make for a more stultifying environment in most high schools than really needs to be. I spent a year (as a student) in a German Gymnasium, and the difference was striking. I don't think you get as many time-servers in Gymnasia, and German teachers have a greater likelihood of actually being deeply involved in their subject matter.

    The reason I'm writing, though, is that it seems to me that there is a simple, bureaucratic change that might improve the quality of teaching in U.S. secondary schools: more alternative licensure. Given that so few good jobs are available in American higher education, and that secondary education in America is so weak, it would seem logical to make teaching at the secondary level an option for folks who have a Ph.D. or are ABD. As it stands now (in [state], and I believe in most other places, too) you need a Master's in Education in order to teach at the secondary level (or you need to be working on it, if you've just gotten out of a B.A. program in Education). If you just spent six or seven years in graduate school becoming an expert in your field, you are not going to want to go back to school right away for another two. (I realize that there are some people who do this, but they are a very small minority)

    It's clear that, as with community colleges, there are a number of academics who would never even consider teaching at the high school level-- which is too bad. High school teaching can be frustrating, but it's also a completely different, interesting set of educational challenges. Students ask much broader questions, and, unlike college students who pick a discipline, high school students are more deeply concerned with the relevance of what they're learning. It can be very
    refreshing. And once you land a job, the pay is reasonable and the benefits are pretty good.

    Is there something I'm missing here? Is there some compelling reason that alternative licensure hasn't been opened up already for academics? Or is it just the strength of teachers' unions and bureaucratic shortsightedness?

    I've long wondered about the chasm between the K-12 system and higher ed in America. It hits me most directly when we try to do 'dual enrollment' programs with local high schools. We've tried several times to run our classes onsite at local public high schools during the after-school hours,
    charging only cc tuition and offering transcripted (and therefore transferable) credit. (We've found that lots of colleges use AP or IB scores mostly for placement, as opposed to credit, but will give actual credit for transcripted college courses.) The leadership of the high schools is almost always excited at the prospect, the students say they want it, the parents say they want it, and even the teachers' unions are okay with it as long as it's after school. Then nobody signs up.

    The one district in our service area where we've been able to make it work, revealingly, is the one district where we've been able to get an external benefactor to pick up the cost of tuition. Absent that, the courses flop. This despite the fact that the very next year, most of the students to whom
    the courses were offered will freely choose to go to colleges that charge far more per credit than we do, and take the exact courses they could have taken with us for far less.

    Economically, it's insane. But there's a kind of compartmentalization that parents have adopted uncritically that leads them to assume that K-12 is, and should be, free, and college is, and should be, expensive. So the same parents who balk at our tuition for a high school senior will pay triple
    that the following year, for the same course, and do it without complaint. We're left scratching our heads.

    That compartmentalization shows up in lots of little ways. High school teachers are teachers; college teachers are professors. High school teachers identify with their districts, often to the point of jumping from one discipline to another as needed (like the gym coaches who teach math);
    college professors identify with their disciplines, often barely even acknowledging the institution that actually pays them. High schools are tightly regulated and 'standardized' to death; colleges are still largely free to set their own standards and policies.

    And yes, high school teachers have to take 'education' courses. College professors don't, unless that's their actual discipline. As I've mentioned before, the extent of my pedagogical training in graduate school before leading my first class consisted of being told, "you'll be fine." I was, eventually, but that first semester wasn't always pretty.

    I've never seen a thoughtful theoretical justification for the abrupt divide. My suspicion, and I'll admit that I haven't studied this systematically, is that the chasm is the result of historical accident,
    compounded by momentum.

    If we were serious about building a coherent education system, for example, we would have aligned high school graduation requirements with college level entrance requirements a long time ago. Instead, embarrassingly large chunks of cc instructional budgets are dedicated to re-teaching stuff that was supposed to have been learned in high school. This applies even to brand new
    graduates, just a few months out of high school. (We also would invert the teaching pyramid in colleges, so that the remedial and intro classes would be the smallest, and taught by the most experienced instructors. Instead, we throw the most vulnerable students into the least supportive environments. My 'you'll be fine" section, characteristically, was an Intro course.)

    We'd also take a fresh look at how we teach, how we define disciplines, and what we expect students to be able to do when they graduate. And yes, we'd ask questions like "why is it so hard to find good high school teachers, especially when colleges are turning away prospective professors by the metric ton?"

    To get to the narrower point, I know that some states, including my own, have adopted "alternate route" certification programs for people with degrees in other fields, and that those programs have become astonishingly successful. I also can't help but notice that private high schools that don't require teaching certifications seem to do pretty well, though there are obvious issues of self-selection and economic class at work there.

    My guess is that an influx of folks with high-level subject matter training into the ranks of public high school faculty would almost certainly be a good thing. I read somewhere - folks who know this stuff are invited to comment - that one of the strongest predictors of student performance in high school was the verbal SAT of the teacher. I don't know if it's true, but it sounds right. Exposing our kids to high expectations, backed by solid academic training, isn't the worst idea I've heard.

    Good luck with your explorations.

    Wise and worldly readers - what do you think?

    Have a question? Ask the Administrator at deandad (at) gmail (dot) com.

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Comments on Ask the Administrator: What About Teaching High School?

  • I've wondered too
  • Posted by Steve , Professor on March 31, 2008 at 7:45am EDT
  • I have wondered about the same chasm. Here I am at a school adding four-year programs in Georgia; we have no admission standards, and I do not think there is much difference between high school students and my students. I have tenure, and I have recently decided to go teach high school because with my doctorate I will get a thirty percent raise. I have a family to support, and salaries in the Humanities at my institution won't help me make ends meet. My situation is not unique; in many states, high school teachers have better salaries and benefits that many college professors.

  • I second the idea!
  • Posted by Dr. Sun on March 31, 2008 at 8:25am EDT
  • I have a PhD in the biological sciences and I at one point seriously considered teaching high school. I was turned off by the confusing process and ridiculous number of requirements. I have a PhD and I was having trouble figured out what I would actually have to do! In addition, from what I could tell, I would have had to take 4 undergraduate sciences courses (geology and astronomy, and something else) to teach high school biology. That was on top of all the tests and the certification courses. As someone who had three years experience in faculty and TA development teaching others how to teach and a PhD in science, I really would have considered going forward only if an alternative certification was possible. I guess you could argue that if I really wanted to do it, I wouldn't have let all that stand in in my way. However, at 30, I needed to start having a career and earning money and stop paying for more schooling.

  • Alternative credentialing too narrow
  • Posted by Elizabeth , Ed.D. student on March 31, 2008 at 11:05am EDT
  • I believe I've commented on this before, but here goes again, because I believe strongly about this!

    I taught HS for 2 years full time, in both public and private schools, and I've taught college as a GTA and adjunct. No, the students aren't that different. These days, the parents aren't even that different, although they bother HS teachers more than college instructors. Administrators are MUCH more invasive at the HS level, but for people who are willing to give teaching a try, that's not even the problem. The problem, as mentioned above, is the alternative certificate process.

    My father has an MA in math education and taught as an adjunct at a local urban CC for several years. He was forced out, even though he had excellent success rates and evaluations, because he does not have 18 grad hours in math. So, he thought about teaching HS. He's got that wonderful "real life" experience we all wish our students to see so they can get excited about math and science--he worked for NASA, Point Mugu Missile Range, the Missouri Department of Conservation, and the US Army in cost analysis for 30 years. I'm telling you, this man is SMART! (And his verbal SAT scores would be good, too--I know his GRE scores were excellent.)

    The problem? He graduated with his BS in math back in 1965 with a 2.0 GPA, mostly because he attended what used to be the University of Missouri-Rolla (now the Missouri University of Science & Tech). For people who don't know Rolla's reputation, let's just say that tiny errors in calculation were enough to fail you on your exam, because, as one of Dad's professors put it, "If you screw up that math when you're building a bridge, people die." Sounds good, but rather harsh! So, after a couple of years at Rolla, Dad transferred to another state college so he could graduate!

    Now, 40 years and a 4.0 MA later, he can't teach HS in Missouri because they base their alternative certification on bachelor's GPA. Huh? He is one of the most inspiring people I know (it's not his fault I can't do math. He tried--and he's the only reason I made it through College Algebra!), and his home state refuses to allow him to try to inspire our youth.

    Oh, yeah, that makes all the sense in the world to me.

  • Posted by Summer on March 31, 2008 at 10:25pm EDT
  • I have a MSc in Biology. Stayed-at-home mom for a decade or so. Need to get a career that I can live with. Teaching seems very practical to me. So I did the alternative certification program at nearby college. Took me $7500, a Biology content test (which is about college biology intro. class level, 100 plus questions I believe) and a general test (similar to GRE but very easy) and about 1 year and 4 months to complete. It was easy although it was quiet hectic with work and family. I spent about 3 hours a day, reading and doing assignment.
    Whatever your circumstances talk first to people who run alternative programs at your local college. If you cannot get much help from there then go to the Board of Education office and present your case. Even if nothing happened the BOE people need to know that they should change their rigid policy when there are people willing to teach and there are shortages everywhere. Since reading this blog I am convince teachers had it better than CC instructors. Well I take that back. Only if you are teaching at certain schools and teaching certain courses. In some cases it can get pretty intense and quite challenging.

  • Deja Vu
  • Posted by Patrick Mattimore , Teacher on April 1, 2008 at 8:55am EDT
  • 20 years ago I had my 15 minutes when I was pictured in USN&WR sitting in a courtroom. I was being profiled in a story about how difficult it was for persons who had alternative life experiences to get jobs teaching high school without going back to get credentialed. I worked as a deputy district attorney at the time and as I pointed out in the article I could have been hired to teach at any law school in the country with my background but not at a public high school. Subsequently, I did return to school to get a credential and taught public hs for ten years and another two and a half years at a parochial school.
    At the time of the USN&WR article, I was firmly in the camp of "why bother with credentialing." Although, I didn't have a particularly pleasant or engaging "back to credential school" experience, I've modified my earlier beliefs somewhat. I think the most important part of pre-hs teaching experience is for career switchers to spend time in a classroom before they are credentialed. They also need experience managing hs students. The "how to" books were fairly useless. Watching, learning, and practicing, day-to-day classroom management was not.