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  • Regional or National Accreditation?

    By Dean Dad July 19, 2009 8:52 pm

    In a comment a few days ago in response to my misgivings about a national online database of classes, someone raised the question of why we still have a regional, as opposed to national, accreditation system.

    The short answer is, I have absolutely no idea. My best guess is inertia; regional accreditors emerged long ago, and gradually accrued a certain legitimacy. Now, certain regional accreditors are simply accepted as 'legitimate' – North Central, Middle States, NEASC, SACS, etc. The national accreditors that currently exist are generally held in much lower esteem throughout most of higher ed, to the extent that they get any respect at all.

    (There are also plenty of well-respected accreditors within specific disciplines, like engineering or nursing. Here I'm referring to organizations that accredit entire institutions.)

    Until the rise of online courses, the fact of regional separation didn't matter all that much. Credits can transfer between regions without issue, so it's not a matter of compatibility. (We've had students transfer here with credits from all around the country, and we've accepted them without hesitation.) Since each agency has its turf all to itself, there hasn't been much issue of a race to the bottom. If anything, there could be a sort of watered-down “laboratories of democracy” argument that having different agencies across the country can allow for simultaneous experiments. For example, North Central allows AQIP as an alternative to the decennial monster visit; to my knowledge, the others don't, at least for now. (I may be wrong about the Western states; Western readers are invited to correct me on that.)

    Some for-profits have already run into some weird accreditation issues as they've gone national. The University of Phoenix, for example, is accredited by North Central, even though it has campuses and students in states that would normally be covered by, say, Middle States. I've heard of occasional hiccups in transfer depending on how local policies are phrased. For example, a college in Pennsylvania might balk at taking credits from an in-state U of Phoenix campus, since it only accepts in-state credits with Middle States accreditation. But this is an easy glitch to fix.

    Now that the Obama administration is proposing a national clearinghouse of public domain, for-credit online courses, the question of national accreditation is starting to rear its head.

    Typically, regionally accredited institutions only take transfer credits from other regionally accredited institutions. That's why, for example, the state colleges and universities take our credits in transfer. (Transfer is always subject to fitting the intended program, so a student who switches majors may lose a bunch of credits, but that's another issue.) Otherwise, it would be all too easy for some fly-by-night operation to become an outsourced diploma mill under the protective cover of someone else's accreditation.

    In the 'national database' model, as I understand it, no particular college would 'own' any of the courses. They'd all be in the public domain, graded by...uh...well, never mind that, but they'd be shared. Since no particular college owns the courses, it's not at all clear whose regional accreditation would attach to them. Regionally accredited colleges and universities would be asked to accept credits without regional accreditation.

    Presumably, this is easily patchable with some sort of fiat. But the larger issue is whether regional, as opposed to national, accreditation still makes sense. This may be the catalyst for a serious discussion about revisiting the regional accreditation model in toto. In the age of online learning, electronic communications, and an increasing federal role in higher ed, does the regional model even make sense anymore?

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Comments on Regional or National Accreditation?

  • Posted by Em on July 20, 2009 at 7:45am EDT
  • A couple of clarifications:

    First, all institutions are prohibited by Federal regulation from prohibiting the transfer of credits solely on the basis of the transfering institution's accreditation.

    Second, the regional accreditors were created early in the 20th century to facilitate transfer among the most prestigious institutions. Because relatively few students in those days transfered to institutions far away, the accreditors were established regionally rather than nationally. So from this perspective a regional approach to accreditation is anachronistic.

    But having seven regionals has benefits. Each regional accreditor approaches accreditation in a somewhat different way. Its standards are organized and phrased somewhat differently, and its processes vary. Some innovations invariably don't work out, so having different processes makes the regionals a bit like "think tanks" that the other regionals can observe and learn from. All the accreditors, for example, keep an eye on HLC's AQIP project to see how it is working out in practice.

    That said, I'm not sure we need seven regionals. An argument could be made that some of the smaller regionals could merge with their geographic neighbors.

    And here's a thought: Why not let the regionals go national and compete? The outcome would be telling. One regional might become known as the "easy" accreditor and attract mediocre but adequate schools. Another might move to more of a checklist approach, rather than the qualitative approach now used, which some institutions might find more straightforward and therefore more appealing. Another might tighten its standards further and become known as the gold standard of accreditation. Or maybe the distinctions would be in terms of cost and quality: the accreditor with relatively low dues and fees provides minimal services, while those charging more provide more professional development and services.

  • Regional Accreditation
  • Posted by Dave Schwalm , Assoc Prof Emeritus at Arizona State University on July 20, 2009 at 3:00pm EDT
  • While having seven regional accrediting agencies may seem a bit inefficient, there might be some lessons to be learned from experience with No Child Left Behind. The regional accreditors are good checks on one another as well as on the institutions they accredit. They are all a little different, and some get a reputation for being more rigorous thatn others (although the "tough guy" designation seems to rotate over time). But the interplay and experimentation among the agencies makes it impossible for a power crazed higher education czar to try to fit all institutions into the same box. I rather like the Darwinian argument.

  • We've seen both; regionals are better for us
  • Posted by Lloyd Daub , Librarian at Bryant & Stratton College on July 20, 2009 at 7:15pm EDT
  • When I started at my for-profit career college, we were nationally accredited since our campuses are in several states. But the standard we were held to was not rigorous for a college and reflected poorly on us. The accrediting standards were weak, and so we were viewed as weak.

    Regional accreditation demanded more of us, and when we met that standard it made others view us as more academic. We continue to grow in size, but also in academic rigor and in academic credentials and other standards. It's all a better measurement device for the improvement we wanted, and which we viewed as a marketing edge over our competitors.

    The regionals 'going national' as mentioned above seems to be happening without any need for government intervention. We should just let the regionals be; they're doing fine on their own, and they are letting colleges like us work things out the way we see as best to meet their standards.

    In fact, government-imposed standards for new national accreditation would likely harm us. Neither my state nor the new administration's plans for community colleges see any need for for-profits. 150 years and more of good customer service and skilled graduates mean nothing to them so long as the word 'profit' is in the picture.

  • Federal $$$
  • Posted by Lil Johnny on July 20, 2009 at 7:45pm EDT
  • Having one national acccrediting organization would be GREAT! It would eliminate a lot of unnecessary positions and eliminate adjustment difficulties when employees move from one region to another. It makes too much sense. That is why we will likely never see it during my life.

  • Is there a baby in this bathwater?
  • Posted by sibyl on July 22, 2009 at 8:30am EDT
  • @Em #1, could you provide a reference for your assertion that the feds forbid colleges to deny transfer on the grounds of accreditation? If true, that would be an astonishing breach of a fundamental academic freedom and I'll want to get all huffy about it with my representatives.

    Yes, it's true that higher ed used to be a local, or at best a regional, market, but that has changed in the last 40 years. And inertia is certainly a key reason for maintaining regional accreditors. But it's also important to remember that, for a long time, no national accreditor had a robust peer review component, though that is now changing. (Peer review is, to my mind, the most valuable component of accreditation.) I suppose there are some convenience costs in regional accreditation -- if I'm on a site visit team in Maine, I can drive to any school I visit and I'm always in the same time zone as every other team member -- but the gap is narrowing. (And it doesn't seem to bother North Central.)

    I wonder whether the regional differences in higher education are still meaningful enough to support regional accreditors if we were to start from scratch today. What's the difference between going to college in Vermont (NEASC land) and going to college in upstate New York (MSCHE country)? Are football and hospitality and other Southern ways of life still so different that SACS ought to do things differently? (And is that why they ask for so many @#&^ reports and statistics?)

  • More clarification
  • Posted by Michael Crosby on November 17, 2009 at 11:45am EST
  • If memory serves, there is no federal law that forbids rejecting transfer credits based on accreditation but there is a federal guide line that does just that.

    It is sad that anyone would defend the right of an institute of higher learning to discriminate against a prospective student for such a reason.

    These cases should be case by case but the higher up in academia one travels the less flexible the view on the issue.

    As one who is feeling the after-math of this issue first hand, I say shame on those institutions who will not even look at students with a "lowly" nationally accredited degree.

    In my case I applied to one school with my 3.97 GPA for four years along with a recommendation from an old instructor of mine who had moved to the school I was applying to to help manage one of their divisions. They would have nothing to do with me, even when I asked what I could do to help fix the situation.

    The next school I applied to sent my transcript, essays, and recommendations, out to the faculty who felt I should get a spot and they sent me an intent to enroll. Three weeks later the "realized" the mistake and cut me from the program. They were very apologetic but, again when asked what I could do to help my situation was told "nothing".

    Does anyone really want to fight on the side of academia in these situations? Why shouldn't the DOED make it a real law and not just a guideline?

    Michael Crosby