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  • Teaching and Sorting

    By Dean Dad June 3, 2009 9:56 pm

    Via Cold Spring Shops, I ran across this quote from conservative commentator David Frum:

    Why are the wages of the college-educated declining? A big part of the answer is that the pool of college graduates is rapidly expanding. It’s not surprising that as college becomes more universal, the return on a college education falls.

    As the number of job applicants with degrees rises, employers become more sophisticated in assessing the value of any particular degree. The degree itself matters less than the institution that granted it, the subject areas of concentration, and the grade point average earned. A 4.0 math degree from Cal Tech is a very different thing from a 2.8 communications degree from San Francisco State University.

    In a way, it encapsulates a basic philosophical quandary for higher ed. Should our focus be on sorting the strong from the weak, or on making everybody strong?

    Frum implies, correctly, that at least some of the wage premium attaching to college degrees comes from their relative scarcity. To the extent that seeing a degree program through to completion bespeaks, say, above-average tenacity and/or intelligence, it serves as a signal to prospective employers.

    From that perspective, improving pass rates in developmental classes is actually counterproductive. Frum's position assumes that scarcity is the primary market value of a degree, so it follows logically that making degrees more common makes them less valuable. Anybody who pays attention to the rise of the professional adjunct has to concede that there's at least some truth to this.

    From an educator's perspective, though, I'm struck that if Frum is right, then the actual content of what we teach doesn't matter much. (He appends the standard harumphing about The Classics, but it's really ancillary to his argument.) The real work of higher ed happens at the Admissions office. By that standard, community colleges aren't higher ed at all, since we don't exclude. Exclusion, rather than education, is the point. We could make students run through rows of tires on the ground if we wanted to; as long as fewer finish than start, we've done our job. As Thorstein Veblen noted a century ago, the 'signalling' achieved by a liberal arts education is that you're elite enough that you don't actually have to learn anything useful. Any schmuck can make a living with a skill; only the elite can afford to major in philosophy. Get in, get through, and get yours; the actual content of what you study is quite beside the point.

    In the cc world, by contrast, the animating assumption is that the content of what we teach is both good in itself and likely to lead to economic growth. Even if degrees lose a certain exclusivity, the social and economic benefits of a more educated citizenry and workforce are likely to outweigh any losses from relative ubiquity. In other words, more educated workers are more productive workers over time. If the first two years of college become more common, this position implies, then we should expect to see more economic growth over time, since people will be more capable of doing more productive things. Content matters. Education, rather than exclusion, is the point. There may be some dislocations on the micro level -- what conservatives in other contexts like to call 'creative destruction' -- but there will be prosperity on the macro level. Put enough skilled and educated people together long enough, and sooner or later, you'll get sparks.

    And of course, there are enough triumphs of underdogs to keep us going. Just because your parents aren't loaded doesn't mean you're stupid or without potential. Community colleges are the only realistic starting point for many people, some of whom parlay their hard work here into impressive careers. I'm at a loss to explain why that's a bad thing.

    Much follows from which side you're on. If you believe that exclusivity is the point, then colleges built on second chances are debasing the currency. They're cheating. If you believe that education is the point, then giving people second (and third...) chances to bring up their games is an obvious public good, worthy of substantial public support.

    From the perspective of exclusivity, something like 'outcomes assessment' just looks like misplaced priorities; it takes content entirely too seriously. From the perspective of education, it's absurd that we haven't been doing a better job of it as a matter of course. If teaching is our core function, why the hell wouldn't we try to improve how we do it? The indifference to the content of education, I think, is behind both the research university model and tenure. Both of those are built on an implied hostility to actual teaching, which makes sense if you assume that actual teaching is beside the point. Teach well or badly, whatever -- the kids will sort themselves out, and the cream will rise to the top. Meanwhile, there's prestige/fame/grant money to chase! Teaching is for adjuncts. We speak of research 'opportunities,' but of teaching 'loads' -- the language tells you what you need to know.

    I can't deny that the 'exclusivity' perspective has a long history, a certain internal coherence, and a kind of intuitive appeal for those of us who navigated the system well. It explains market saturation in certain fields, and gives a handy excuse for cutting taxes on the wealthy. But it's wrong, and it's wrong all the way down. At a really fundamental level, either you believe that content matters, or you don't. Either you believe that everybody deserves a real shot, or you don't. Either you believe that education is a common good, or you believe that it's a private good. The rest follows.

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Comments on Teaching and Sorting

  • Not really
  • Posted by sibyl on June 4, 2009 at 9:01am EDT
  • I think DD is wrong to draw this as an either/or thing because it is really a both/and thing. Education benefits the public, but individuals also benefit. That is why it is good that education is publicly subsidized and that individuals also pay, so that both the public and the individual have skin in the game.

    The goal of education is (or should be) strengthening, but sorting also occurs. We can't blame people for using our processes (grades, curricular requirements) for sorting. But they are ancillary to what we do.

    Does content matter? Sure, but not as much as the process of learning. We acknowledge as much in our support of the "major"; it doesn't matter whether you master the intricacies of physical chemistry or the intricacies of Latin verb declension or the intricacies of social psychology, as long as you learn the processes and prior work in a field. Even in general education, we are fairly flexible about content; there is no canon of literature examined in Western Civ surveys or freshman composition, even though we do expect that students will receive a grounding in knowledge and skill.

    The flaw in DD's thinking is the idea that higher education has a responsibility to winnow the chaff from the wheat just because it helps employers. No, employers depend on us, not the other way around.

  • Posted by Guh on June 4, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • Great article by DD. Two tips, DD, that I hope you take to heart and would greatly strengthen your writing:

    1. In the opening paragraph, you say, "I ran across this quote from conservative commentator David Frum." This is not necessary. Isn't he just a commentator, for the purposes of this article? Do you likewise call liberal commentators liberal? This reminds me of my elderly father-in-law, who always says stuff like "the black cashier," or "the Hispanic pastor," etc., but never says, "the white [so-and-so]." I suspect this is the same way you approach conservatives, as an "other." That's a shame.

    2. The closing paragraph contains a completely unneccessary statement: "...and gives a handy excuse for cutting taxes on the wealthy." Huh? Where did that come from? Your essay was interesting and coherent all the way until, CLANG!, that clunker of an unsubstantiated statement rang out.

    Seriously, man, not everything is political. Well, for liberals, I guess it is. But you don't have to let it show so much. Unless you like only reaching 50% of the population and annoying the other 50%...

  • Posted by random thoughts on June 4, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • Teach well or badly, whatever -- the kids will sort themselves out, and the cream will rise to the top.

    I think you've nailed something I've been feeling for a long time. I see it regularly in the posts on any report related to creative pedagogy or attention to different learning styles -- what some inevitably will decry as "dumbing down" or "entertainment." "I sat through long, boring lectures by instructors who didn't care whether I learned or not and I learned anyway. These coddled youngsters ought to do the same." You put the slop in the trough and whether the pigs come to feed or not -- well, that isn't your affair. I taught -- they just didn't learn. (Of course, at the same time, we must decry those shallow teachers at Harvard Business School for not instilling greater wisdom and ethical standards in their students -- if they had, we wouldn't be in this present mess. But that's -- somehow -- different from what the rest of us do. That sort of accountability doesn't apply to to what we do.)

    The faculty in one program at a (mid-sized, public) university reportedly took pride in "weeding out" poorly prepared students, failing hundreds in 101. Despite years of administrative warning, they were deeply distressed when the university discontinued their major, which (not surprisingly) graduated only 1-2 students per year. The university simply ought to offer a major in their discipline -- any school must in order to be "good" and not simply a
    "vocational school;" whether any students actually want to take the major is irrelevant. Somehow, a program we offer, that virtually no students take, will in some mysterious better the lot of all.

    Learning matters.

  • For what is a degree?
  • Posted by Jon Paulson , Communication Faculty//Undergraduate Studies at Walden University on June 4, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • "A 4.0 math degree from Cal Tech is a very different thing from a 2.8 communications degree from San Francisco State University."

    It certainly is: but from an empoyer's view, the difference probably has more to do with whether he or she needs someone to edit a video, write a press release or work equations...

  • I Believe Community College Saved My Life
  • Posted by Eric Gates , Sr. Sales Consultant at www.aleks.com on June 4, 2009 at 11:15am EDT
  • Dean Dad,

    I always enjoy your column, and I don't comment on most of the blogs I read. But you always get me thinking and wanting to respond. Thank you!

    I was an academically gifted, but immature and hyperactive lad who never had time to take high school seriously. So I joined the Air Force and had no plans to go to college. But as I matured I realized I was different from the people I was hanging with, and that I belonged in college with the geeks and thinkers.

    Community college was my way back in to that world. Without it, no way. I took developmental math starting with beginning algebra , earned A's for four straight quarters, and eventually got into Calculus.

    I did one year, transferred to a decent--but definitely not elite--four-year school, and got into a field that required a minimum of a four-year degree.

    Then my real learning began, and I labored for twenty years before breaking out into the sunshine that is my career today.

    So Community College was my ticket for entry into this wonderful life I have today. It had nothing to do, though, with the supply and demand in the abstract. ANYONE can waste or really get something out of almost any college education. I really wanted that knowledge and those asscociations.

    A lot of the students with whom I interact today just seem to think college is their natural right and it's-boring-but-they-have to-do-it-to-get-a-job. That is the kind of student who should haul garbage for a while and then come back and make a real committment to the process of learning to think. (Oh God, I sound like my grandfather).

    As Woody Allen said--80 percent of life is showing up. And I see a lot of students in developmental sequences today who are not showing up.

    So Frum's right in a way: demand is a critical issue, but not demand for a mere piece of paper.

  • prevailing sadness
  • Posted by Christopher Paris , English Department at University of the Incarnate Word on June 4, 2009 at 12:00pm EDT
  • I'm deeply saddened by the quandary posited in paragraph four. Why must it always come down to the same old issue--that pathetic, culturally endemic, schizmatizing one that stubbornly persists; the one forever at the root of our cultural polemic that has practically taken on the character of an unspoken Civil War at this point? It's everywhere, apparently; even among us. Are we getting better as a people, or worse?

    Why is opportunity always reduced to "exclusivity" vs. "inclusivity," the "elite" vs. the "other," the "have's" vs. the "have-not's," the "conservative" vs. the "liberal," "Republican" vs. "Democratic," "winners" vs."losers"? Are we ever gonna grow up as a people? Are we ever going to be able to shed ourselves of prejudices, narrow corrupted visions, name-dropping and aggrandizing to perpetuate illusions of and for advantage? Are we ever going to stop promoting it ourselves?

    Why can't we just be dedicated to encouraging students to do the very best they can no matter where they or we may be? Every student has the right to do well; every student has the right to fail. We don't have to encourage or assist failures; the failures will happen of themselves. We do have an ethical and moral responsibility, however, to encourage and mentor student success, no matter what level. After all, each of us, individually, did not achieve our accomplishments all on our own. I don't think any one of us can say, "nobody helped me, nobody showed me; I did it all on my own." We don't have to encourage separating the chafe; nor, ethically, should we because somebody helped us at some point, some time.

    All we have to do is do the very best we can to maximize our students' opportunities for success--and, that does NOT have to include giving away grades. Nor does it HAVE to include trial by fire or by ordeal, or eliminate the very important opportunities developmental programs offer students. I've seen too many veteran students of developmental programs persist to their graduations, and then go on to acquire very good starting career positions; and, grow in wonderful careers, too. Why is that?

    The irony in all of this is that employers don't hire our graduates solely based on what institutions they've come from, or their stellar GPA's, thank God. The value-added's also play a very important role. An employer's perceptions of personality, vision, and fit are equally essential to institutional pedigree and/or stellar GPA in an employee search process; maybe, even, sometimes more valued by an employer. GPA and pedigree are not the only exclusive criteria; nor, may they even prove to be an edge in light of an employer's holistic selection process.

    All we have to do is do our jobs well. Forget all the rest. After all, even all of us get published, for example, in spite of what institution we may be teaching at, or acquired our terminal degees from. Thank God for that, too. Individual performance, persistence, and the willingness by someone to give another human being a chance are the keys to all of it.

    Chris Paris
    University of the Incarnate Word
    San Antonio, Texas

  • Posted by Jonathan Dresner on June 4, 2009 at 1:45pm EDT
  • <I>"From that perspective, improving pass rates in developmental classes is actually counterproductive"</i>

    It depends, I suppose, on how you improve pass rates: if you dumb it down, then that creates a short-term benefit for people who use the cultural capital of the degree, but in the long term the value is lost. If you improve pass rates by improving instruction and learning, then you cheapen the cultural capital a bit, but in the long run it will bounce back.

  • Education and Exclusion
  • Posted by kschop , Associate Dean on June 4, 2009 at 1:45pm EDT
  • DD makes an excellent point by noting the implications of the exclusivity model vs. the education model. But, sadly, it’s even more complicated than this. For even among those for whom the content really matters, the tendency toward exclusivity still arises when the issue of how to teach is not a point of focus. Most college educators are very focused on the content of their courses because they love their discipline. They experience great joy in sharing the content of what they love with their students – or at least they enjoy teaching about it, even if no one is listening or learning.

     

    However, we confront the oft-noted point that college teachers are among the very few professionals that are not trained for the work they typically do. We classify ourselves, and we think of ourselves, as biologists, psychologists, or philosophers, when our major work is in fact teaching. Up until very recently, nearly all college teachers were hired on the basis of their knowledge of their field, not on their ability to cause learning to happen. Unconsciously, the exclusivity model is built in because it assumed that all learning depends on the student. Those who do not learn have only themselves to blame and therefore should be excluded from subsequent opportunities in their job market or additional education. From that perspective, the exclusivity model is almost as widespread at community colleges as universities because CC faculty came from the university model.

     

    I would suggest that an education model, in contrast to the exclusivity model, is one in which the pedagogy is as important as the content. Especially in community colleges, where students often struggle with undeveloped learning, thinking, and communication skills – along with the complications of life where economic resources are limited – pedagogy must be a major focus. When the central goal of education is learning, rather than exclusivity, content itself isn’t enough. Content and pedagogy become inextricably connected to generate the outcome of learning.

  • Posted by Turducken on June 4, 2009 at 2:00pm EDT
  • I don't see this as an either/or question. Exclusivity can matter, even with a skill. If everyone majored in accounting and wanted to be an accountant, accounting wages would fall as a matter of supply and demand. This has nothing to do with getting a shot or deservingness.

    Besides, community colleges still are exclusive. They're just exclusive on getting out with a diploma, not at the front end. Even with the best will in the world to teach and inspire, some students will decide they don't want to be there, and a few may not be able to give what it takes.

    One can accept the basic premise that supply and demand drive wages without believing that the value of diplomas are only based on signaling or that we need fewer college graduates.

  • Posted by Hurley on June 6, 2009 at 2:00pm EDT
  • As a product of a community college in the late 1950s, I very much needed the developmental aspects as I feel that did not get much out of high school in the form of life-time employment prospects. While later I did go on to earn a BS and two Masters (in non-elite universities), I feel that it was the experience at the community college that set the stage for my further relative success in both my working (non-teaching) career and academically. Looking back, many of my classmates, especially at the community college, needed this second and even third chance to achieve a better life-time employment prospects.