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  • FUNQs: Won’t Ask, Won’t Tell

    By Mary W. George November 1, 2009 8:55 pm

    Today I have the urge to address a perennial, insidious, and unnecessary condition that afflicts higher education in this country. It results from the most Frequently UNasked Question (by students) that is also the most Frequently UNanswered Question (by faculty): What is a primary source?

    The silence surrounding this question is deafening. Undergrads are oblivious to the issue, think they already know the answer because they memorized a definition in eighth grade (“A primary source was written at the time”), or are afraid to show their ignorance by asking in class or in private communication with a professor. Faculty are far more culpable, in my view, because they assume, based on no evidence whatsoever, that students have grasped the difference between primary and secondary sources at about the same time, and with the same clarity, that they figured out sex.

    Au contraire: what with tidy textbooks, packaged compilations of readings — or worse yet, summaries and excerpts — that mix original material with commentary, compounded by a torrent of electronic resources, students are bound to be hazy about what makes anything primary. My hunch is that the problem is at least in part visceral: no pain, no gain in this context becomes no effort (to acquire a primary source), no understanding (of what one is). My second hunch is that, lacking attention to the issue, students will confuse the container with its content. A paperback edition of Romeo and Juliet appears identical to a casebook of critical essays about the play. So if both look like a book, feel like a book, and smell like a book, and if both come from a bookstore, library shelf, or Blackboard site, then they both must be...? My third, and most troubling, hunch is that every IHE confers degrees on some students who are still uncertain about what’s what, sourcewise.

    To test these suspicions, I often ask small groups of students to distinguish between primary and secondary sources. Originally I thought their answers would help me cast my own presentation of library research concepts and strategies, but I quickly realized that I was blundering into an abyss of muddle and guesswork.

    Here is how the drama usually unfolds. First, there is silence and a close examination of fingernails and keypads. Then a brave soul or two will dig deep and recite a version of the memorized definition. But when I ask them to elaborate or provide an example of a primary source in the context of their course, I am apt to hear such assertions as that a primary source is (a) what they are supposed to read first, (b) the most important piece of their research, (c) the item they should list at the top of their bibliography, and (d) the earliest treatment of their topic. My favorite response of all time came from a class smart aleck who announced, “I’m not sure what a primary source is, but I figure it must be one if it makes me sneeze.” Lunacy or profundity, do you think?

    While none of these notions is dead wrong, and while I applaud the attempt to use the etymology of primary as a clue, it is apparent to me that there has been a crucial gap in student learning. Boiled down, faculty reason, and teach, as follows:

    --This is what we’re studying.

    --This is what we know about it.

    --This is what people have said about it.

    --Now we’ll consider what it means and its consequences.

    What’s missing from this syllogism is a careful look at what it is and at how we might either verify or extend our knowledge systematically. In short, what are the primary sources any college course is concerned with and what are the appropriate ways to engage them.

    Faculty in the experimental sciences do the best job of imparting ideas about the substance of their field, along with the rigor, logic, and safety precautions good research demands. Students enroll in laboratory classes expecting to learn about phenomena by conducting guided investigations that entail precise procedures and analysis. But there is rarely an equivalent detailed look at objects or approaches in the rest of the college curriculum. Instead, there may be a research assignment requiring a preliminary bibliography or draft, with scribbled professorial feedback, and some instructions about what to do, but no coaching on how — let alone why — to do it. Repetition over four years will eventually lead students to a sort of fluency, but there’s no guarantee that students will graduate with the same mastery of methods that they have of facts and theories. To judge from the e-mail queries we get from alumni about how to find information in areas outside their major, I have to conclude that many people cannot adapt their undergraduate research experiences to different disciplines or endeavors.

    Neither faculty nor librarians, acting as individuals, can impart everything students need to understand about sources or research methods, but we can, and should, talk repeatedly with students about the origin, nature, and transmission of the primary sources they are studying. We must not allow “What is a primary source?” to remain a taboo question.

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Comments on FUNQs: Won’t Ask, Won’t Tell

  • teaching with primary sources
  • Posted by TPS advocate , TPS Grant Director/College of Ed & Behav. Sci at University of Northern Colorado on November 2, 2009 at 11:30am EST
  • Recognizing this challenge, the Library of Congress launched the Teaching with Primary Sources (TPS) program in 2007. Aimed primarily at K12 teachers, with programs based at colleges and universities, the program seeks to ensure teachers know what primary sources are and why they are important in teaching. TPS professional development promotes inquiry-based teaching strategies and introduces educators to the more than 13 million digitized primary sources on the Library's website.See http://www.loc.gov/teachers/tps/

  • Posted by Emma on November 2, 2009 at 11:30am EST
  • Eighth grade? I never heard the term until graduate school, and I majored in history.

    I overhead an undergrad recently define "primary sources" as "sources that were really important."

  • It's all relative
  • Posted by Dennis Grafflin , Professor of History at Bates College on November 2, 2009 at 12:15pm EST
  • Let's not lose sight of the fact that being primary or secondary inheres in the research question, not in the source. Your high-school U.S. history text is a primary source, if you are studying how high-school history texts describe the Civil War. You could be reading the original manuscripts of Robert Lowell and Elizabeth Bishop's correspondence, but if you are reading for their comments on Shakespeare, it would be bizarre to claim that they were other than secondary.

  • And.....
  • Posted by SLJ on November 2, 2009 at 2:15pm EST
  • I continued to read hoping you would tell us the definition that you like to use....could you share?

  • Re: Dennis Grafflin
  • Posted by Kate on November 3, 2009 at 1:15pm EST
  • You could be reading the original manuscripts of Robert Lowell and Elizabeth Bishop's correspondence, but if you are reading for their comments on Shakespeare, it would be bizarre to claim that they were other than secondary.
    I'd argue otherwise, actually. If the intent was to discover their thoughts on Shakespeare, it is indeed a primary source. If the intent was to research Shakespeare, then it might be a secondary source, depending on the focus.

  • Primary School
  • Posted by Ammie E. Harrison , Arts and Humanities Librarian at Texas Christian University on November 4, 2009 at 8:15pm EST
  • I finally posted a blog entry on this because even some professors were providing mixed answers about what a primary resource could be. The question quickly got filed in my "Questions that they need to ask but don't" box that I go over in Instruction classes. The top three are primary/secondary resources, what is a scholarly, peer-reviewed article, and how do I read a citation and find it in print (yes, people, some journals still are in print:)

  • Primary source vrs Secondary Sources
  • Posted by Ken Dowlin , retired at San Jose State University on November 6, 2009 at 1:45pm EST
  • I find this discussion very interesting. As a retired practitioner of 35 years as a Library Director and Professor in Library and Information Science I was often caught in the middle in my writings over the issue of primary or secondary sources. I had numerous debates with editors who would insist that I cite the source for my theories or practices. Since I was a pioneer in library technology and library leadership skills I often learned techniques or strategies by inventing them and applying them.. I assumed that since I was one of the first Library Directors to incorporate the use of community cable television and automated data processing in libraries in the 1970s that I could be considered as a primary source.
    I often found that the editors who had not practiced in the field didn't understand the concept of original applied research by an individual.

  • Relativity
  • Posted by cts on November 10, 2009 at 11:30am EST
  • What counts as a primary source varies in relation to the materials in use and the materials available. There are only a few framents of sentences for the Milesian philosophers; so, for their work, the commentaries of Aristotle and others are the 'primary sources,' whereas the commentaries by later thinkers are 'secondary' sources.

    I wonder what the author's conception of the distinction is.

  • Caught in midstep
  • Posted by go2yourlibrary , Librarian at Heartland Community College on November 12, 2009 at 4:30pm EST
  • And sometimes, you are caught midstep...
    As when the student called and said she was coming into the library later and needed to talk about how she could find primary sources for her topic. Her instructor said she had to have primary sources.
    "Of course we can find you something," the blithe librarian promises, "what's your topic?"
    "Pyramids! I need to find primary documents on how they built pyramids! See you soon!"

    Good grief!

  • Posted by FGM on November 18, 2009 at 12:00pm EST
  • Frankly, it would HELP and not OBFUSCATE, if just one of you experienced librarians and/or professors provided clear and concise definitions for: (1) What is a primary source of information? (2) How does one recognize a primary source of information? (3) What is a secondary source of information? (4) How does one recognize a secondary source of information? All of the other intellectual bantering and posturing serves little useful purpose if you cannot or choose not to answer these questions. Hopefully, someone will read this post and answer the aforementioned questions.

  • Information Literacy Tutorials
  • Posted by Jen Klaudinyi , Instruction Librarian, CLIP, at Western Oregon University on November 25, 2009 at 5:30pm EST
  • I'd like to share a free resource with all of you. I am coordinating the Cooperative Library Instruction Project (http://clip-il.wetpaint.com/). We are producing online information literacy tutorials that are not university specific and can easily be used by teaching faculty or librarians anywhere. "Primary and Secondary Sources" is one of the tutorials available now on our website.

    We hope that these tutorials will serve as a resource for teaching faculty and librarians to efficiently provide some coverage of information literacy basics. While I don't believe that everything on this important topic can be communicated without some face-to-face time, there simply aren't enough librarians to go around, and I know that teaching faculty members are already taxed for time. The project is just beginning and we will continue to produce tutorials on other information literacy subjects. Check out our website for tutorials avaialble now (http://clip-il.wetpaint.com/).

  • Instruction tutorials
  • Posted by Lori Schwabenbauer , Director of Library Services at Holy Family University on December 2, 2009 at 10:15am EST
  • Thanks for sharing your CLIP link, Jen - I think we'll find these tutorials very useful. Thank goodness librarians are such good collaborators - it saves reinventing the wheel!

  • Primary Source
  • Posted by P. McQueen , Associate University Librarian at Engineering on December 15, 2009 at 3:45pm EST
  • I asked this question of one of my student workers and the answer was a "book," I guess. Then I asked, were all books primary sources? The answer was well no..... Then their was the statement by one of them that, "I think the internet is a primary source or maybe..... just a secondary source."

    Have they been taught this because of the technology today or is it just a matter of what's easiest for them to use? I would think that the first answer should be a book resource like a book, or an encyclopedia. Maybe this is because of the generation gap between yesterday and today's generation. It's still amazing to me how so many students are taking the Internet as a primary source instead of simply stating that an Encyclopedia, a journal or a paper they are using in class is a primary source. How do we change this or are we able to change this?

  • Posted by Laura at http://bit.ly/Learn2 on January 6, 2010 at 5:15pm EST
  • I think that this question is important, but it's indicative of a larger problem: we need to make sure that students are aware of, and understand, the terminology surrounding academia. A quick five minute lecture can save tons of hassle and stress (student and teacher!).