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  • Math Geek Mom: Palindromes and Growing Up

    By Rosemarie Emanuele October 22, 2009 7:15 pm

    When my daughter was barely five years old, I told her the phone number of someone we knew, a number that went something like “8448”. I then told her that the number was special, since it was a “palindrome”, and was the same forward and backwards. She looked up at me, and, without missing a second, said “Like Hannah Montana?” It took me a few seconds to realize that the word “Hannah” in Hannah Montana is, indeed, a palindrome, as it is spelled the same forward and backward. I suspect that they had been talking about this in her pre-kindergarten class, but also realized that she had been exposed to Hannah Montana from watching the Disney channel, one of the last bastions of commercial-free TV (depending on how you define a commercial), besides PBS and one of the few stations that I let her watch. However, it has become clear that the people who brought us Winnie-the-Pooh and Mickey Mouse have now put their energy into presenting shows about teenagers and their angst. I thought of this a few weeks ago as I wrote about lip gloss being given out as a "girl toy" by McDonald’s, and later read the responses to it.

    I always try to be grateful to anyone who takes the time to respond to my entries, even when their responses are angry or critical, since I know that they spent time writing a response that could have been spent other ways (an idea might recall from my past notes on “opportunity cost”). I just want to be clear that in complaining about McDonald’s, I did not mean to propose in that entry that McDonald’s is good food for our children (clearly it is not) or that Barbie should be banned from all of our homes. Rather, I wanted to raise the question of whether it was appropriate to give lip gloss to little girls who were still small enough to be filled up by four chicken nuggets and some slices of apple. Could they not have found another "girl toy" to include in the meal?

    But what McDonald’s is doing is similar to what Disney is doing, with their marketing of Hannah Montana and other teen-age dramas. And a similar phenomena is happening in the department stores, where a move from size 6X to size 7 means a move from fashion designed for little girls to those designed for teenagers, or even for young women in their early 20s. Often this means having few appropriate options to choose from in selecting clothes for children as young as kindergarteners.

    I have taken this complaint “on the road” and brought it up in several groups of mothers that I have found myself in, both academic and non-academic, and I am generally receiving comments that agree with me. One mother of a young teenager said that she can only find padded bras for her daughter, who just barely needs one to begin with. And one grandmother told the story of trying to buy clothes for her granddaughter who was turning six. After going to several stores and being disgusted by the low-cut necklines and shirts designed to show bellies, she finally found one top that was cut appropriately. Just before she brought it to the register, however, her youngest daughter, who was shopping with her, noticed that the print on the shirt was a repeating pattern of skulls. The grandmother gave up and bought a gift certificate!

    My daughter will be growing up soon enough, and I feel that the marketing of toys and clothes to her that do not adequately reflect her age is disturbing. Last summer, it was difficult to find a one piece bathing suit for her, and I am sure that next summer, it will be even more difficult. Is there some way to tell the people who make these products that I want appropriate toys and clothes for my little girl? Can someone think of who to boycott to get the message across?

    I feel lucky, because, for now, she goes to a school that requires her to wear a uniform, so some of these issues are avoided. However, I cannot protect her from popular culture forever, as evidenced by the fact that she not only knows about Hannah in Hannah Montana, but also how to spell it, forward and backwards.

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Comments on Math Geek Mom: Palindromes and Growing Up

  • Posted by Kim on October 23, 2009 at 10:15am EDT
  • Not to be overly brand-specific, but Lands' End children's clothing seems to more age-appropriate and conservative than other brands. While some will argue they are a bit more pricey, OTOH they don't have skulls among their print patterns! I'm lucky enough to be able to pay more for this type of quality.

  • Things I am thankful for as the mother of a 10-year-old girl:
  • Posted by Carrie on October 23, 2009 at 11:00am EDT
  • Lands End and school uniforms! (In our case, school uniforms FROM Lands End...)

    I have spent far too many hours thinking about this very issue lately. Our 10-year-old has extremely limited clothing options. Our school requires a uniform, which is a wonderful, wonderful thing, and I'll second the comment about Lands End, including the fact that they also have a good return policy (I accidentally ordered shirts with the wrong school logo embroidered on them - who knew there were two schools called Veritas in VA?) and the clothes are a good quality, often pass-downable. Hannah Andersson has some nice quality things as well, and the sale prices are good ( the cut is too boxy for my skinny girl).

    What I see here at my institution of higher education is the outcome of all of this: yesterday was 80 degrees here, and out came the shortest skirts, low-cut dresses and sheer white tops (with black bras worn underneath). Sitting at the library's desk, I wonder at where the idea of 'dressing appropriately' has gone, and feel all fuddy-duddy just for thinking that.

    (When I was 10, I wore hand-me-down tunic tops over turtlenecks and polyester pants. This 'uniform' had the advantage of looking decent, being easy to play in, and I didn't have to think at all about my clothing.)

  • Opportunity
  • Posted by Jane , Thinker at college of real life on October 23, 2009 at 11:00am EDT
  • The fastest growing segment of our economy is women-owned businesses. Surely one of them is ready to manufacture clothing designed for REAL little girls! If not, start now. Best -- *J*

  • Palindromes and Growing UP
  • Posted by Wes on October 23, 2009 at 11:00am EDT
  • Your observations are spot-on, and you are doing a wise thing by taking your child to a school that requires uniforms.

    Now at the 'back-end' of parenthood, with kids in college and grad school, I do not envy moms raising daughters in the shadow of Hannah Montana and her ilk.

    Disney is NOT a friend of your child, and I am no Bible-thumper.

    The Land's End suggestion is a good one, btw. We shopped at Gymboree, Chocolate Soup, and eventually headed out of the retail stores and online to find appropriate garb.

    Your child is fortunate to have a mom who will teach her what a palindrome is, and how to make good choices for her life.

    Best wishes. Let us know how it goes.

  • appropriate clothing for girls
  • Posted by Melissa Davis , Public Services Librarian at Southern Virginia University on October 23, 2009 at 2:15pm EDT
  • Oh, just wait until you shop for prom dresses! Cut down to there, up to here, see-through, strapless ... my advice? Learn to sew.

  • Posted by cheddar on October 24, 2009 at 5:15am EDT
  • Disney commercials are where my otherwise somewhat sheltered kids learned how to say loser, idiot, shut up and do these pants make my butt look fat? They are only safe on pbskids.

    I was going to recommend Lands End as well.

  • Posted by Bec on October 25, 2009 at 6:00am EDT
  • Weird suggestion alert: order online from businesses that sells clothing geared to LDS girls/ boys/ women/ men. Really.