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College and Baptists Split Over Gay Issues

April 8, 2005

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Virginia Baptist groups have voted to end their formal relationship -- which includes providing funds and appointing trustees -- with Averett University. The split follows a series of disputes over gay issues, most recently a student group's gay pride event.

A statement released by the Virginia Baptist Mission Board said that the religious group and the university will "walk separate paths" because of the disagreements. While Averett's board has yet to vote on the declaration, it was released as a "joint statement."

While formal ties would end, the Baptists and the university pledged to work together to support Baptist students at the university.

"We take this action without bitterness or ill will, but with a strong resolve. Our position has long been clear and decisive that homosexuality is a lifestyle that goes against Scripture and is contrary to stated Virginia Baptist core values,” said John Upton, executive director, Baptist General Association of Virginia and Virginia Baptist Mission Board.

Averett officials have noted throughout the dispute that most of the Baptists group's objections have been with the actions of student groups or faculty members, not officials stances of the university.

In a column published today in The Winston-Salem Journal, one of the founders of the Gay/Straight Alliance, the student group that set off the final dispute, defended the group.

Jocelyn Wright, a sophomore, wrote that she is not gay, but that she cares about her gay friends and believes "in the rights of people to be themselves and to love without being persecuted."

A similar dispute may have been averted Thursday at Mars Hill College, in North Carolina. Baptist groups there had threatened to cut funds to the college if it recognized a group to support gay students. On Thursday, the student government voted, 21 to 17, against recognizing the student group, The Asheville Citizen-Times reported.

The paper quoted Dan Lunsford, the college's president, as saying, "I believe the decision rendered reflects the faith position held by most constituents within the Mars Hill College family." But the paper quoted a student who wanted to recognize the group as well: "This just breaks my heart. To me, this is about civil rights. People are going to be homosexual whether we recognize this club or not. I don’t see why we can’t allow it."

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Comments on College and Baptists Split Over Gay Issues

  • Bible and Homosexuality
  • Posted by Arthur Ide, PhD on October 27, 2005 at 1:09pm EDT
  • At best the "anti-gay" comments in both Old and New Testament are redactions (if not transmogrifications) of far older Babylonian, Sumerian, and Chalcedonian texts that reflect many Egyptian tomb writings that are even older. Much of the bitterness of Leviticus and Romans is but a plagarism of Middle Assyrian laws unearthed at Ashur (Qal'at Shergat) in 1903, dating from Tiglathpileser I in the 12th century BCE (see especially Tablet A, lines 1-22).

  • You're right, I'm right, truth is all relative right?
  • Posted by Julie Grennan , bussiness owner at Averett Alum on November 29, 2005 at 4:34am EST
  • In defense of the Baptist Church who has generously given to Averett for many many years for standing up for what they believe in. The teachings of scripture do speak of homosexual practice in Romans 1:26. The matter of sexual sin is addressed by Jesus himself when a woman who was living with a man but not married to him spoke to Jesus. He exposed her sin and did not tell her that if it makes her happy then it's o.k. Sin is sin and we are all guilty of it to some extent. The Baptist church is entitled to defend what they believe and to designate funds where they believe those funds would honor God the most. That is THEIR right and people need to be more "tolerant" of THEIR beliefs and not be so narrow minded.

  • There are No Biblical References to Homosexuality
  • Posted by Nathan C. Walker at Union Theological Seminary, New York, NY on April 8, 2005 at 10:31am EDT
  • CLARIFICATION ON BIBLICAL REFERENCES

    The Virginia Baptists claim that “homosexuality is a lifestyle that goes against Scripture.” What does the Bible really say about homosexuality?

    According to the American Standard Bible, the Amplified Bible, the Bible in Basic English, the Contemporary English Bible, the Darby Bible, the World English Bible, and the Wycliffe New Testament, Young's Literal Translation Bible, the Message Bible, the Net Bible, the King James Bible, the New King James Bible, the Revised Standard Bible, the New Revised Standard Bible, the New American Bible, the New American Standard Bible, the New International Bible, the New English Translation Bible, and the New Living Translation Bible, there are no biblical passages that talk about homosexuality.

    Zero.

    What you will find are passages that do rightfully condemn rape (Genesis 19:1-10 and Jude 19:14), ritual sex (Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13), prostitution (Deuteronomy 23:17, first Kings 14:24, 15:12, 22:46, second Kings 23:7); Pagan orgies (Romans 1:26); and pedophilia (First Corinthians 6:9, first Timothy 1:9).

    I am deeply concerned that the Virginia Baptists confuse these horrid acts with monogamous relationships between two of God’s children.

    In closing, the Virginia Baptists have no scriptural basis for their blatant discrimination that goes against the fundamental message of the Hebrew and Christian scriptures – to love thy neighbor.

    Nathan C. Walker
    M.Div. Student, Union Theological Seminary (May ’05)
    Ed.D. Student, Teachers College Columbia University

  • To the Virginia Baptists Re: Averett U.
  • Posted by Durrell Watkins , Rev. on April 8, 2005 at 1:34pm EDT
  • I am so sad that in the 21st century we are still disguising our prejudices as morals, our fears as values, and our hatreds as devotion.

    Everytime we vilify or exclude someone in the name of "scriptural authority" or "religious values" we always come to regret it. Slavery? The oppression of women? Child abuse? The divine right of kings? The flatness of the earth? The slaughter of accused witches? These embarrasing positions and actions have all claimed biblical sanction, only later to have Churches repent for the abuse they perpetrated in the name of God. Whenever we define our faith by who we dislike, we never really build ourselves up or honor the reality we call "God."

    It seems that Blaise Pascal spoke an eternal truth when he said, "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

    You are entitled to your fear and misunderstanding of lesbian and gay people. But shame on you for punishing people who might not share your prejudices.

  • Posted by Ronald R. Weber at Union Theological Seminary on April 8, 2005 at 1:34pm EDT
  • My Lord accepted all, other than Pharisees, who interpreted the Law without Love, and Saducees who valued their own position above serving God. It seems that the Virginia Baptists may be using the Bible for there own ends & not Jesus'. It's sad.
    P.S. I am a herterosexual with 6 Children who are also heterosexuals.

  • Posted by normalvision , Prof. of English (ret.) on April 8, 2005 at 3:23pm EDT
  • “We take this action without bitterness or ill will..."
    -------------------------

    But did they ever think about acting out of Good Will?