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It Takes a Counselor, Not a Village

July 5, 2005

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When it comes to convincing kids at low-income high schools that they can find a way to pay for college, a single optimistic adviser can make the difference for hundreds of students, according to Scott L. Thomas, associate professor at the University of Georgia’s Institute of Higher Education.

Thomas described his research Monday at the annual meeting of the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators, in New York City. Thomas is studying the efficacy of policies that seek to make college available in various cultural and socioeconomic settings.

One of his most interesting finds so far is that the college aspirations of many students in disadvantaged high schools hangs by the thread of a single adviser. "At poorer schools that buck the trend and send a lot of kids to college, it’s maybe one, two or three counselors that are orienting them toward college," Thomas said. "It’s comforting that a few people can make a difference."

Barry W. Simmons, director of Virginia Tech’s Office of Scholarships and Financial Aid, asked Thomas if high school principals set the agenda for the counselors. "No," he replied. "There’s tremendous turnover in principals, and the counselors outlast them. They often do what they do in spite of principals." In the only comment that provoked head nods across the room, Thomas added that, while he was heartened by the fact that a small group of committed people can make a difference, "it scares me to the death, because [the few counselors] can leave easily."

Thomas said that simply having that tiny core of counselors who create an atmosphere that says "college will be available when the time comes" can set the tone for an entire school.

He also found that the general outlook of counselors varied from state to state.

In California, a state that has a large need-based financial aid program, he was surprised to find that counselors often weren’t uniformly optimistic about college prospects for students from poor high schools. In Florida, however, where state aid is less plentiful, advisers had a sunnier outlook. “In Florida, there’s the feeling that if a student really wants to go to college, they’re definitely going to be able to go somewhere,” he said. “In California, counselors had a less sanguine attitude. Only if you really pushed them, they’d often agree a student could probably at least go [to college somewhere].”

He could not explain the discrepancy with certainty, but said that California counselors may reflect the state’s financial uncertainties. “There’s so much public talk about the cost of college going through the roof and about fiscal crisis in California,” he said.

In Miami-Dade County, one of Thomas’ main study areas, some of the poor high schools had average SAT scores 100 points or more below the state average of 994. Yet, those schools often were not far behind wealthier Miami-Dade high schools in the percentage of students that go on to college. Several of the poor schools even topped 60 percent of students going on to college, more than at some of the rich schools, which had higher average test scores and more Advanced Placement test takers.

Thomas attributed at least some of that to the College Assistance Program counselors, one per Miami-Dade school, in addition to regular counselors, who are dedicated “to encouraging underrepresented people,” he said. “They make a huge difference.”

Not only do the special counselors send more students to college, Thomas said, but they also often go above and beyond the call of duty to see that their students will actually succeed in college. “You see a lot of purely voluntary follow up,” he said of the Miami-Dade counselors’ relationships with students who go on to college. “And sometimes they’ll bring them back to talk to [high school seniors] about their struggles and successes. That’s what we’ve seen as effective in low-income schools.”

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Comments on It Takes a Counselor, Not a Village

  • And continuing . . . ?
  • Posted by Andrew Purvis on July 5, 2005 at 7:46am EDT
  • I have been, over the last four years, amazed at the depth of the students entering my community college classrooms. One might imagine that thoseof us who attended community colleges would find little to surprise us in this regar, but I have.

    My students cut across every demographic, and those who come to college straight out of high school are no exception to this. What I would like to know now is what factors keep these students in college. It is one thing to get them in the doors, and quite another to retain them. Do advisors, in whatever form, play a similar role in the college setting? Are we instructors and professors the new threads?

    Oh, I feel a writing assignment coming on. Pardon me while I duck off to work out its subtleties.

  • Posted by Jack Girvan CCPS at Educational Funding Consultants on July 5, 2005 at 10:46am EDT
  • Motivation and education are the keys to increasing the number of lower income students that attend college. Many students do not believe that their families can afford college often times because their parent or stepparents have stated such and therefore have discouraged the student from considering college.

    Parents need to be educated at a much earlier age regarding their options when it comes to paying for college. Every family is eligible for $9,000 in total assistance from the Hope and Lifetime learning credit. That is free money from the IRS yet the number of people that understand how it works and the eligibility requirements are few. The students and their parents need to understand that merit based scholarships are available and be encouraged to achieve the requirements to be offered them. And parents and children do not understand Federal and instituional loan and gift programs work.

    The key to this is early education. Every incoming high school student should be required to attend a meeting with their parent(s) to learn about HOW TO PAY FOR COLLEGE. Most high schools conduct some kind of program now but it is often held in January or February of the students senior year. At that point it is of little use and more likely centered on how to fill out a FAFSA application.

    If you want to make higher education available to all those who wish to persue a college degree high schools must change the way the y deliver the message and to educate families on how to pay for college. By doing so they will encourage and motivate families to take positive steps to improve their educatio opportunities, thier earning potential and their financial futures. Continuing to do what has traditionally been done will continue a have and have not mentality.

  • It Takes aCounselor
  • Posted by Arthur Shahverdian , Manager, Early Awareness at CSLF on July 6, 2005 at 11:27am EDT
  • After 32 years as a counselor/Director in affluent suburban communities, I now work with schools in all levels of affluence. Unfortunately, those who need the most attention ususally go to schools where there are fewer counselors (larger caseloads) and their time is taken up with other immediate needs of the larger population of students. The writer talks about the influence of Principals on the work counselors do: it is enormous not should not be marginalized. Their needs are immediate such as registration of new students throughout the school year; dealing with academic failures; dealing with state agencies; and a host of other crisis situations. Unfortunately, college planning is not a school priority in these situation. By the way, check it out and you will find that Principals, though they may shorter tenures in schools, clearly dictate the work counselors perform-ask any counselor. The concept of a dedicated college planning office (without other tasks) may be the best solution although the other counselors may not be happy with it.