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Pecking Order

If you want to be an economics professor at top research institution, you better get your Ph.D. at an elite graduate program. If you want to be a math or sociology professor, you might have a bit more leeway.

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Stephen Wu, an assistant professor of economics at Hamilton College, combed department Web pages at the top 25 research and liberal arts institutions, as defined by U.S. News & World Report, to see what kind of pedigrees faculty members had. In a study published in Academe, the magazine of the American Association of University Professors, he reported that more than two-thirds of economics faculty members at top research universities earned their Ph.D. at a graduate program at a top 10 institution. Over 80 percent earned degrees at a top 20 program. (Tables showing the breakdowns for disciplines at top universities and liberal arts colleges appear at the bottom of this article.)

“In economics, it’s fairly well known that if you want to be a professor, you pretty much want to get into a top program, or you might as well not really bother,” Wu said. He added that graduates from outside top graduate economics departments often have good job prospects in the private sector, so they may not worry about the academic job market.

Wu also noted that professors from top economics departments tend to dominate the pages of the most prestigious journals. In another study Wu conducted, he found that in 2002-3, 40 percent of the pages of The Quarterly Journal of Economics were by authors from just four institutions: Harvard University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford University and the University of Chicago. He said that if professors are publishing a lot, it is more likely they will co-author papers with Ph.D. candidates, which will help them win a faculty spot at a research institution.

Derek Neal, chair of the economics department at the University of Chicago, thought some of concentration of faculty members with Ph.D.’s from select institutions might have to do with good departments eventually hiring their former graduate students. Chicago’s economics department has faculty members who earned Ph.D.’s at the Universities of Maryland and Minnesota. It also has nine professors with Chicago Ph.D.’s. Neither Neal, nor other department chairs had an idea as to why economics was different than other disciplines.

Wu guessed that it might be easier for institutions to evaluate potential economics professors, as opposed to other subjects, based on where they got their Ph.D. “In economics, things start early. If you have an aptitude in math, you’ll have success,” said Wu, who earned his Ph.D. at Princeton University. “In other fields, there might be more room for development, for late bloomers.”

Why, then, did mathematics and chemistry departments at research institutions hire the smallest percentage of faculty members from top 10 departments of any of the disciplines studied? “In math and sciences, there might be more competition from foreign programs,” Wu said. His survey included only the top domestic programs, so faculty members with Ph.D.’s from abroad may have affected the data.

But Paul Goerss, chair of the mathematics department at Northwestern University, had another idea. “In math, there’s sort of a worldwide agreement of what good math is,” Goerss said. Because of that, he thinks that mathematics departments can easily evaluate the work of candidates without relying on their institutional background.

Second to economics in hiring from the top graduate schools was history. The top 25 research institutions hired almost 60 percent of faculty members from top 10 programs, and three-quarters from top 20 programs. Peter Caldwell, chair of the history department at Rice University, thinks some of that might have to do with the “community effect” in good graduate departments.

“When you’re surrounded by a large, active graduate population, you’re constantly trying to present your work in an interesting way, and learning from the department’s cumulative experience” he said. “We look closely at writing samples and personal statements, and knowing how to present yourself and your work can have a big impact.”

Caldwell added that, because a prospective faculty member has a specialty distinct from current faculty members, they really need to be able to make foreign territory seem exciting. Caldwell has been on about a half-dozen search committees. He said the committees did not rely heavily on institutional background, but still often ended up hiring from top programs. The danger with staffing prestigious departments with talent from a small circle, he said, “is that small number of professors will set the agenda for history.”

At top liberal arts colleges, the hiring situation was pretty similar in the humanities, less so in math and chemistry, and disparate in the social sciences. Liberal arts colleges had nearly 25 percent fewer sociology professors with Ph.D.’s from top 10 graduate programs. That came as a surprise to sociology chairs at liberal arts colleges. “I don’t have the foggiest idea,” said Jerome Himmelstein, the chair at Amherst College. He said the entire faculty of his department is from top 20 graduate programs. Himmelstein said he would have thought the biggest gap would have been in physical sciences, where wealthy research universities might be more likely to set up the expensive labs that leading researchers need. “In sociology and English, you just need a computer and a desk,” he said.

In English, in fact, liberal arts and research institutions most closely resembled each other. Christanne Miller, who was the English chair at Pomona College until recently, thought that maybe the emphasis on teaching at liberal arts colleges is attractive to many of the brightest English Ph.D.’s, but could not guess why the same wouldn’t be true for sociology.

Percentage of Faculty at Top 25 Research Institutions With Doctorates From Top Graduate Programs

Subject

Doctorates From Top 10

Doctorates From Top 20

Economics

67.3

81.9

History

58.9

74.9

English

57.1

70.2

Sociology

55.6

74.0

Chemistry

50.9

64.8

Mathematics

50.0

62.4

Percentage of Faculty at Top 25 Liberal Arts Colleges With Doctorates From Top Graduate Programs

Subject

Doctorates From Top 10

Doctorates From Top 20

English

53.2

67.6

History

51.6

71.4

Economics

45.8

59.9

Chemistry

40.1

58.9

Mathematics

36.0

54.2

Sociology

30.9

47.3

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Sociology Question

Anecdotally, my impression has been that the sociology job market is a lot like other disciplines. The top schools usually hire candidates from other top schools. Val Burris tends to support this impression in the April 2004 issue of American Sociological Review in an article titled “The Academic Caste System: Prestige Hierarchies in PhD Exchange Networks.” So, I was surprised by some of the findings related in the IHE article posted today. I’m not a quantitative sociologist, though, and the two findings might be entirely compatible (If I remember correctly, Burris only focused on sociology departments). Are their any statistically-minded folks out there who want to weigh in on this? I’d like to believe that sociology departments are more meritocratic and less swayed by school prestige in hiring (because inequality is such a central focus of the discipline), but I’m not sure that’s the case.

Brian, University of Kansas, at 9:45 am EDT on August 5, 2005

Why so much focus on the elite institutions?

While it is nice to know that top universities only higher people from top rated schools, it hardly seems like a revlation.

Faculty apprear to me to be the most pedigree minded people when it comes to your education.

My concern is that most individuals involved in higher education don’t attend elite insitutions or work at them; yet they set the agenda if they sneeze in the wrong direction (Harvard’s announcement that it was “exploring” changes to its undergraduate education made front page news — almost as important as the Red Sox winning the series).

And asking a professor at Amherst why this situation exist is silly. Amherst is the top rated liberal arts insitution in the country. Why don’t you ask individuals who have tried to compete for these jobs and not gotten them? Or ask people who may have an idea because they are part of the larger community of higher education professionals, rather than the all to often quoted elite minority.

Seth, Enrollment Services Manager at Antioch University, at 10:42 am EDT on August 5, 2005

linguistics, US history

For an appropriate social model of the separation of tiers of prestige within a discipline’s departments, see B. Hurlbert, 1976, “Status and exchange in the profession of anthropology’ in American Anthropologist 78.272-84. She showed that a model used to account for, e.g. bride exchanges in Burma, also fit junior faculty exchanges among anthro departments. It allows the user to distinguish tiers of perceived prestige within a discipline, thanks to the rarity of ‘marrying up’. Works well for linguistics too, but I never published on that.

John G Fought, at 12:19 pm EDT on August 5, 2005

Vintage matters, not just pedigree...

What seems entirely left out here is the factor of when a degree was awarded. I would guess (based on personal experience in a number of departments in my field of English) that when the market was not so glutted (decades ago), departments were a bit more open-minded about where faculty did their degrees. Now that the market is so lousy, these schools can be more choosy. I attended a research II school where I was told by faculty that they only hire in the top 10. The professors who told me that would never have been hired decades ago if that “rule” had been in place. I’d venture to guess that the statistics provided here are therefore misleading: for example, if 57% of faculty in a dept. went to a top 10 institution, this does not mean that 100% of new hires are not coming from those top 10 schools. This is not universally true, thank goodness, but there are some small-minded hiring committees out there.

Nonplussed, English Grad Student at big city university, at 2:57 pm EDT on August 5, 2005

More on Sociology

The earlier comment from Brian is correct that Wu’s results don’t quite jibe with Burris’ ASR article. This is because Wu uses subjective rankings from U.S. News & World Report and Burris ranked Ph.D. sociology programs by how many of their graduates become faculty in other Ph.D. programs. Thus, Burris’ article is a much more useful examination of the caste system in sociology and reveals a strong bias toward hiring people in the top departments. I give a copy of the article’s main table to my students who are considering graduate school.

According to Burris’ data, the top five programs in sociology (Wisconsin, Chicago, Michigan, UC-Berkeley, Harvard) produced 32% of all the sociology faculty in the 94 Ph.D. programs in the U.S., 48% of faculty in the top 20 and 56% of faculty in the top five.

The top 20 programs produced 88% of the faculty in the top 20 and 69% of the faculty in all the programs.

So there is a strong caste system that Wu underestimates because the U.S. News rankings don’t capture which programs are producing the most faculty.

Although Burris doesn’t discuss this, it is my sense from reading elsewhere that even at the top schools, only a small minority of Ph.Ds are able to land a job at another Ph.D. granting school. For instance, Wisconsin has 122 graduates at Ph.D. granting programs. But during the decades that these were hired, Wisconsin, which has over 200 grad students in its program, must have given well over a thousand Ph.Ds to students who landed elsewhere.

Dave, sociology faculty member, at 4:32 am EDT on August 8, 2005

Bringing in comparative analysis

I wonder how much of pecking order affects employment in other countries? Here in Canada, while there clearly is a academic hierarchy (University of Toronto at the top), it is somewhat flatter than the American system. So how does this play out for academic disciplines?

Does it increase the possibility that a university may have a low reputation, but in particular disciplines they may be strong? (E.g. in the aforementioned Burris article I think the top 5 American Sociology departments were all fairly prestigious universities, overall. In Canada, there are numerous universities who have a poor reputation overall, but have fairly prestigious Sociology departments (i.e. relative to other Canadian universities), e.g. York and Carleton as universities are seen as having a fairly low reputation, but their sociology departments have fairly high reputations.

Michael, at 3:50 pm EDT on September 10, 2006

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