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Nov. 17, 2005
The availability of federal student loans has changed the economics of higher education, helping to make college possible for millions of Americans. But as both the proportion of students accumulating college debt and the average amount of individual debt have grown, policy makers have increasingly asked: Do we have too much of a good thing?
That was the fundamental question at the core of a daylong conference sponsored Wednesday by the American Enterprise Institute and the Project on Student Debt, part of the Institute for College Access and Success, a nonprofit group led by Robert M. Shireman, a former education policy official in the Clinton administration. The centerpiece of the meeting, “Advancing America’s Economic Competitiveness: The Role of Student Loans,” was a discussion of whether the mounting debt burden accumulated by the average college student — which now rests at nearly $20,000 — has become too great for the individuals and, more broadly, for society. Conventional wisdom, as evidenced by a series of recent reports decrying the growing debt, holds that it has.
Most of the panelists agreed with that premise. Tamara Draut, director of the economic opportunity program at Demos, a nonprofit research group, and author of the forthcoming Strapped: Why America’s 20- and 30-Somethings Can’t Get Ahead (Doubleday), offered a litany of reasons why young Americans — “the first young adult generation” in U.S. history that has been “asked to shoulder the cost of their higher education through loans” — can ill afford to continue to accumulate the rates of debt they are now facing.
Among them: a 30-year downward trend in the median incomes, particularly for men; rapidly rising costs for such things as housing, health care and child care (nearly a third of 25- to 34-year-olds now spend more than 30 percent of their income on rent, compared to 18 percent 30 years ago, she noted); increased credit card debt, and decreased rates of savings. In addition, she said, the threat of debt burden influences students’ college choices, completion rates, and inclination to go to graduate school, all of which diminish their long-term earnings’ potential.
Is the current debt burden too much? “Absolutely yes,” Draut answered, adding that loan debt is “negatively affecting young people’s lives.” She proposed that the country revamp its financial aid system such that Americans can be assured of packages of federal financial aid that tied to their income,
Alicia C. Dowd, an assistant professor in the higher education doctoral program at the University of Massachusetts at Boston, emphasized the extent to which some young people, particularly those from lower-income families and certain ethnic groups, may be dissuaded from going to college because of their aversion to taking on debt. (Dowd is spending this year at the University of Southern California, and so her comments focused heavily on what she has found to be the disinclination of lower-income Mexican-Americans to take out loans for college.)
Easily the most unusual argument against the rising debt burden came from Allan Carlson, president of the Howard Center for Family, Religion and Society. He focused on the social, rather than financial, impact that student loan debt has on borrowers, offering an array of statistics suggesting that fear of imposing that burden on others discourages them from getting married and having children.
He cited one study showing a decline over time in fertility rates for women with bachelor’s degrees, and also described a Creighton University study in which young married couples said that the debt they brought into their marriage was the biggest problem in their relationship (yes, more than in-laws, he noted).
Members of the audience seemed unsure whether to laugh or gasp when Carlson described the federal student loan programs as a “highly effective form of contraception for the college educated” in the United States. His radical solution: The government should agree to pay off one-quarter of an individual’s student loan debt for every child he or she has, up to prescribed levels. Such a change – which he predicted would cost $8 billion to $10 billion a year — would represent a “modest incentive,” rather than what he sees as a current deterrent, to marriage and child bearing.
Sandy Baum, a professor of economics at Skidmore College and senior policy analyst at the College Board, sought to step away from the “very emotional” discussion that typically surrounds the subject of student debt through an attempt to calculate, quantitatively, a better definition of how much debt is really “unmanageable.” The standard definition that most policy makers use now to define students who have excessive debt, she noted, is 8 percent of an individual’s income before tax.
But Baum, in a paper co-written with Saul Schwartz, a professor of public policy and administration at Ottawa’s Carleton University, argued that one person’s unmanageable debt is not necessarily another’s, and that policy makers should instead adopt an approach that would tie the assessment of what is unmanageable for an individual to how his or her income relates to the country’s median income.
Under such a system, some students should be expected to put much less than 8 percent of their income toward loan repayment, Baum said, but others could comfortably pay much more. The “manageable” proportion of their income that individuals who earn 50 percent of the median income (which translated to about $18,772 in 2004) would be zero – in other words, they would ideally be allowed to defer repayment until their income rose, Baum said. The “manageable” debt repayment for those earning three times the median (or $112,629 in 2004), she said, would be 17 percent of that annual income.
Baum suggested that the federal government and lenders could use a refined version of the approach she laid out as the basis for systems of loan repayment that would make how much and when borrowers pay back their loans contingent on their income after college.
Her view that the student loan debt problem may not be quite as bad (or at least as uniformly painful) as often portrayed was echoed by Susan M. Dynarski, an associate professor of public policy studies at Harvard University. She said that as she listened to Draut, Carlson and others describe all the hardships student loan borrowers faced – “they can’t pay their bills, they’re not having children, their marriages are crumbling” – she felt like she was in an “alternate universe,” since “we know that the returns from schooling are at an all-time high,” in terms of additional economic payoff that college graduates have compared to Americans without a college education.
In Dynarski’s view, the significant economic payoff that individuals gain from a college education means that it is not unreasonable to expect them to pick up a meaningful share (in terms of repaying their loan debt) of the cost of that education – a cost already subsidized by the federal government (which subsidizes most federal loans), their states (for those at public institutions) or, at private institutions, their colleges’ endowments.
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Another well-written summary about a conference that missed some major points:
At the top: 80% of U.S. higher education is taxpayer-supported. That is an unhealthy concentration of financial resources which deters price and cost controls. If there were more choice, there would be lower tuition costs. The problem is on the supply side, not the demand side. Vedder (Ohio University), also a former public school board member, is the authority in this area.
http://www.ohio.edu/outlook/05-06/October/116n-056.cfm
As to the suggestion that the U.S. government pay off student loan debt for each child born: I’m reminded of the politicians in 2000 who carped about how some military servicemembers were on food stamps. Then, it was revealed those some of those servicemembers had five or more children in their families. Well, if I had six children, I’d be on food stamps, too.
As to tying individual income to national median income: that does not address the issue of whether it is a fiscally sound idea to have people accumulate large, unsecured debt loads in academic fields with high rates of unemployment. What is being proposed is akin to the S&L fiasco – private losses are subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer. Once burned, twice shy?
Solutions? Community colleges. AP tests. Quality online courses. Living at home. Taking longer to graduate. There’s a start.
A.D., Regular guy at Small college, at 5:37 am EST on November 17, 2005
Has anyone started to make the connection between student loans and higher tuition costs? I don’t mean the usual connection: as costs go up, loans go up. I mean the other way: as loan availability goes up, tuition costs go up. Simple supply and demand. As demand goes up (the amount of money available to pay for college), the price should go up. If all of a sudden I could get a subsidized loan for a car, I might consider getting one whereas now it just doesn’t make sense because I cannot afford it.
filip, Loans and tuition costs at UPenn, at 8:46 am EST on November 17, 2005
We need to hear more people like Susan Dynarski point out the absurdity of people carping about too much student debt. It is estimated that the average college graduate will make $1 million more over his lifetime than he would have made had he not gone to college. $20,000 in debt is peanuts compared to that.
As for Filip’s comment, the point that increased student aid, including government-subsidized loans, leads to increased tuition has been made on many occasions by people like Richard Vedder and others. But one need just look at the lastest data from the College Board to see evidence of this: If you calculate increases in tuition, fees, room and board over the last ten years as well as student aid, you’ll find that aid per-student increased faster than the cost of attending college. In other words, less student money and more taxpayer-supplied or subsidized funds are going to colleges than ten years ago.
Neal McCluskey, Education Policy Analyst at Cato Institute, at 9:09 am EST on November 17, 2005
The student loan conundrum is a classic case of an economic breakdown compounded by decisions made for political reasons.
The major problem is that the choices students make—fueled by loans—are completely divorced from price signals; therefore, irrational choices result.
With the minor exception of some lab fees in a few courses, universities used fixed price schedules and also fixed credit awards that are based on butts-in-seats time, thereby communicating to students that a three semester hour course on The Canterbury Tales is the exact equivalent of a three semester class in algebra (both in cost and credit).
That’s problem 1.
Problem 2 is that the loan source is politically controlled and responds only to political pressures rather than taking economic factors into account as well. The government awards loans to all comers on an equal basis, regardless of the economic prospects that result. That is, whether you plan to major in computer programming or geographic information systems, or to become an expert in the great vowel shift in Middle English, you qualify for the same loans and can wind up absorbing the same total debt load. It’s as if the credit union would lend you the same amount of money whether you planned to buy a house (an appreciating asset) or to donate it to your church (nice for the church, but really tough to pay back if you actually needed the loan in the first place).
A great change would need to happen if anyone were actually interested in addressing this problem seriously (which I greatly doubt — as long as the loans flow, universities will gladly admit the students and take their money, while tut-tutting about the burden that the _government_ is making them bear).
What would need to occur is that we reorganize all financial aid to make schools accountable for results and then to rethink the grants and loans issue to allow each form of aid to do what it does best.
So — and again, I recognize that this is merely delusional babbling given that everyone who benefits from the status quo would have to give up many of those benefits to adopt these ideas — here’s what should happen:
1) The feds should award a total pool of student aid money equally to each school based on their admit pool size. That is, a school with an undergraduate population of 10,000 gets a pool of aid dollars that is one-quarter the size of the school with an undergrad population of 40,000. State aid to public schools would go into the same pot.
2) The school is responsible for repaying the loans to the feds and to the state if specified by that state. That is, students are not indebted to the government — students are instead indebted to the school, and are responsible for repaying the schools.
Thus, schools would suddenly have an incentive to produce graduates who are well-prepared to pay back their loans with their undergrad degrees or, should they proceed to grad school, to become employable after grad school.
3) The schools get to allocate their pot of financial aid money across departments. Rather than students deciding, in effect, which departments will get the benefits of all that financial aid, the schools will be able to target those programs that are most in need of support.
The departments will assign an aid multiple to each course offered (such as 1/10, 1/2, 3/4, etc.) That multiple will be applied to the basic, flat-rate tuition price and the result will be that, for students who qualify for financial aid, the out-of-pocket cost of the course is reduced by that fraction.
In effect, this means lowering the cost of taking some classes and raising the costs of others and letting students give themselves a per-course financial aid award that is informed by the judgment of the school as to how valuable the course is in terms of preparing the students to repay the aid. The school collects the reduced tuition for each course and keeps track of the accumulated financial aid award that each student has obtained through course selection and handles repayment for each student. Thus, the school has every incentive to help students make good choices and good use of the classes, and to help them succeed.
4) Schools would be able to divvy up the money into grants and loans any way they wish — so when a school wanted to support programs and courses that don’t improve anyone’s prospects for repaying loans, that school would reduce the tuition off the flat rate amount through grants — meaning that students qualified for financial aid would take the course at the reduced price, without any increase in the amount they have to repay.
This whole plan would force universities to level with students and communicate to the whole world what the university already knows about the classes — that is, which ones lead to employment and higher career earnings, and which ones lead to pulling coffee at Starbucks. Students would still be free to take the latter courses, but they would have to fit them in according to their financial need and the intensity of their desire.
This whole system would have the net result of perfectly tailoring the repayment load to the prospects for successfully repaying it, while addressing equity concerns (because there would be no arbitrary cap on how much debt students could assume ... each student, working with the school, would come up with a course plan that meets the student’s academic goals at the optimum total price (out-of-pocket tuition paid on registration plus loans/grants awarded through per-class tuition reductions).
And acadmic scholarships could be handled the same way — that is, instead of giving a dollar amount, schools could offer a percentage “kicker” to each scholarship student. That is, instead of expressing a free ride in dollars, that student would get a 1.0 financial aid award (meaning their tuition reduction multiple is 100%). But another student’s scholarship might be.50 — meaning that student gets half off of whatever they would pay otherwise (i.e., it could be half off the full flat-rate if the student doesn’t qualify for need-based financial aid, or it could be half-off the lower price if the student qualifies for need-based financial aid).
Needless to say, this all would work even better in graduate and professional schools (as we already see, given that people line up to lend to future doctors and lawyers).
JMG, at 10:19 am EST on November 17, 2005
The cost is largely in the hands of the school. The interventionist economic policies that further distort the decision making process for students only makes it worse.
If the government would stop taxing us only to loan us our own money back at a rate of interest it finds appropriate, we could choose to invest more effectively in anticipation of college.
If the government would stop pushing programs with low economic prospects and let market forces work on the system, we could have better prospects of repaying loans.
If schools started behaving like they understood the iron law of wages and were paying attention to economic trends outside their ivy walls, we could dramatically reduce costs.
Instead, we wonder who will loan ever larger amounts to students so that the janitors can be paid “socially just” wages and the students can go to a class on Shakespearian sonnets while trying to get a marketable degree.
Kevin, Undergraduate, at 12:58 pm EST on November 17, 2005
At the time I graduated from college in the last century, my father made $23,000 per year, so I had no substantial help from my family to attend college. When I graduated my student loan balance was $10,000 and my first year’s salary was $16,500.
I had no problem paying the monthly payment to retire the debt. If a student has twice the level of debt and makes twice the level of money, it sounds like it should not be a problem. Since interest rates are lower now than they were then, the monthly payment will be less than double the amount I paid.
I had a car payment of $170 per month then, and I think a recent graduate can purchase a modest vehicle today for $340 or less (double my payment). I also paid $185 per month as my half of the rent on a small apartment. If you double that to $370, then finding a small apartment with a roommate for $740 today might actually work. Federal taxes are at a much lower rate than they were then today, so there should actually be some economy of scale realized here.
Investors get rewarded for their risks. As was pointed out in a previous comment, a $20,000 loan balance to earn $1 million more over a lifetime is a pretty good return on an investment. I would prefer to see that nobody has to take on debt to attend college, but that is not likely to happen. I just don’t see that it is a bad thing to have students take on debt to pay for their education.
Randy Freebourn, at 3:22 pm EST on November 17, 2005
Kevin writes: ============== If the government would stop taxing us only to loan us our own money back at a rate of interest it finds appropriate, we could choose to invest more effectively in anticipation of college. ==============As government cannot stop taxing “us” (as government only exists through taxation), this seems to be a call for ending federal student aid entirely. I think that’s a baby tossed out with the bathwater. I think the suggestions I made above would make student aid much more efficient, but ending it entirely would lock a generation or two out of higher ed entirely.
Kevin also writes: —————————- If the government would stop pushing programs with low economic prospects and let market forces work on the system, we could have better prospects of repaying loans. ——————————I think this is true — see suggestions above. If schools were accountable for getting the student aid repaid, they would think more carefully about how much scarce aid money to funnel into supporting dilletantes.
Kevin also writes: ———————————-If schools started behaving like they understood the iron law of wages and were paying attention to economic trends outside their ivy walls, we could dramatically reduce costs.
Instead, we wonder who will loan ever larger amounts to students so that the janitors can be paid “socially just” wages and the students can go to a class on Shakespearian sonnets while trying to get a marketable degree. ——————————————-This seems to be a recurrent theme here at IHE (that somehow, it’s the janitor’s fault that tuition is so high). This is nonsense, totally unsupported by evidence.
A much larger problem than a living wage for the custodial help is the vastly overpaid professoriat and administration, with presidents making NFL size salaries (and, of course, with the sports coaches and their NFL size salaries).
That’s where the savings lie.
JMG, Whoa ..., at 5:27 pm EST on November 17, 2005
I will admit that I perhaps overemphasize the particular part (janitor) as opposed to all the less-than-skilled labor on campus. I would include diningroom workers, bookstore workers, etc. being collectively the subject of criticism. But this really goes to the heart of some of the problems in higher eductation’s finacial situation — unnecessary expenditures for no reason other than “charity,” “fairness,” or “social justice.”
The sums may not be on the scale of some waste, but they are significant. Even small cost cuts can quickly add up — and fewer janitors (etc.) paid at minimum wage could be enough to launch another scholarship or lower tuition a bit. By the time the saleries of several unnecessary janitors (or other) are added up, they could easily equal the sixfigure marks made by coaches.
I think the coach comment is on the mark; these programs need serious cuts. There are several other articles dedicated to that, however, so I won’t run off on that here.
Administrators could be paid on a different basis as well. However, many adminstrators I know and know of came from the corporate world; lower saleries too much and they will return to whence they came.
The government student aid program is part of the problem, rather than the solution. People are encouraged not to save — less savings = bigger loan offers. This should make little sense to someone who looks at the long term, but many do not.
Furthermore, if the cost of the student loan program were not taken out of the pockets of parents before their children college age, they could have invested the money either in their children’s K-12 education or in investment plans (formal or informal) to pay for part of the cost for college themselves. Parents would be less willing to tolerate a 5th year of college because of poor administrative organization and other factors were they paying from savings, rather than dumping a loan on their children.
Government aid is spread without regard to market forces, as commented on by several people here and elsewhere on this website. Banks when loaning money without government interferance would be more capable of making the subtle case-by-case economic adjustments based on job prospects than any government agency or legislative plan.
As for the idea that to cut government aid would lock an entire generation out of higher education, I am confident that shifting the costs in time would not make education impossible — though some would be unwilling to continue under these circumstances. The loans will be there — just undistorted. Besides, under this system, the cost would likely fall significantly, which would reduce the debt burden.
Kevin, Undergraduate, at 7:34 pm EST on November 17, 2005
I graduated more than 20 years ago with $10,000 in college debt and a $10,000/yr public interest job. I struggled but managed to pay off the loan. How? By not owning a car, by renting in a group house, by shopping in thrift stores, and by doing without much of what today’s students expect when they graduate. Has anyone connected the high expectations of the “entitlement generation” to this debate on loans? I will vigorously support a greater investment in scholarships and loans for low- and middle-income students. But I do not think I (as an upper-middle-income student) was entitled to more than I got.
BG, Hoosier Prof, at 10:09 am EST on November 21, 2005
JMG’s solution for optimizing wouldn’t allow for many teachers and nurses. Obviously the earning power of the B.S/A. isn’t uniformly distributed across all professions. Community college technology degrees can produce incomes higher than B.S/A. Solutions based on aggregates aren’t really solutions — just journal articles.
R.W., Community College, at 12:45 pm EST on November 21, 2005
I’m not sure what the comment about aggregate solutions not being solutions means, but I can respond to the suggestion that letting schools control financial aid and be responsible for repayment would somehow fail to produce enough teachers and nurses.
I live in the most economically depressed area in the country. Yet, in nursing and, to a great extent, in teaching, decent-paying jobs are not hard to find. (The only thing hard to find is a teaching job in the white suburbs where you won’t have students in poverty. See Kozol’s “Shame of the Nation” for more on that. But that’s true regardless of how much debt you’re carrying.)
Further, demographic projections suggest that those two professions — perhaps some of the few jobs that can’t be sent offshore easily — will see high and continuing growth in demand for some time, as the older members of the profession in the Baby Boom retire or move out of the ranks and into management.
So, while I can imagine any number of groups who might feel threatened by my proposal (film majors, communications majors, English majors who aspire to be creative writers, etc.), teachers and nurses would do well.
Obviously, liberal arts schools would have to tailor their repayment schedules differently than an engineering school would. So? By letting each school be responsible for repayment, you are also giving each school the opportunity to adjust the repayment schedule, the rate of interest, etc. to maximize the usefulness of the aid and the repayment probability. Thus, schools of education and nursing could agree to forego repayments from students in the first few years of their careers, or tailor the rates to the grads’ salaries, or to forgive payments while the grads serve otherwise underserved areas, etc. This is flexibility that the current aid system only provides in a patchwork fashion.
Besides, what is your proposal? In the end, everything I read on the subject seem to involve someone calling for either more aid money or the intercession of some mysterious force that will cause costs to fall (without lowering salaries or relying more on freeway flyer adjuncts).
I think that making schools *really* care about their grads’ repayment abilities (as opposed to simply murmuring about what a ‘grave concern’ it is) is going to be a necessarily (though likely not sufficient) step in dealing with the debt bomb.
The other thing I would do as part of that reform is to make student loan debt dischargable in bankruptcy.
Right now, schools don’t care whether aid money is squandered on a senseless course plan that leads to no job because the feds don’t care. The feds don’t care because the loan repayment obligation survives bankruptcy.
Make schools responsible for repayment AND make it possible for students to avoid the loans if they wind up bankrupt and show good cause and you will see a sharp increase in the amount of real counseling and advising that students get when they can most benefit from it.
That is, don’t make student loans automatically dischargable — but allow the bankruptcy trustee to discharge them for the teacher or nurse, to use your examples, who is in bankruptcy for good reason, and not because the student became an internet day-trader.
JMG, No Teachers and Nurses?, at 10:26 am EST on November 22, 2005
It’s all about timing. My student loan is locked in at 3%; if the government thinks that’s too low for future generations, I’m cool with raising their rates. (By the way, my house is locked in at 4% and will be paid off soon; I’m cool with mortgage rates going up, too).
Fred Greentree, at 6:35 am EST on February 12, 2006
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Interesting when you look back from 2008. UK student loans now at 21.8 billion:
http://www.thinkmoney.com/loan-news/1145/student-loans.asp
S Jones, at 10:10 am EDT on July 18, 2008