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November 23, 2005

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John Daly -- an adjunct at Warren County Community College whose e-mail message to a student set off a national controversy -- resigned on Tuesday.

The New Jersey college's board was due to discuss Daly and his controversial e-mail Tuesday evening. But the institution's president, William Austin, issued a statement saying that Daly had quit late in the day, and that the board had accepted his resignation. Austin also said that "tolerance training" would be provided for faculty members.

The controversy over Daly arose from an e-mail message he sent to a student who was organizing a pro-war lecture. Daly's e-mail said that “real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors and fight for just causes and for people’s needs.” He also wrote to the student, head of the campus chapter of Young America’s Foundation, that “I will continue to expose your right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like yours won’t dare show their face on a college campus.”

In interviews conducted as conservative groups organized a campaign to have him fired, Daly stood by the substance of his e-mail. But he also said that he thought he was sending the e-mail to an organizer for Young America's Foundation, and that he did not realize that he was sending the e-mail to a student.

The student, Rebecca Beach, had sent e-mail messages to faculty members about her lecture. But Daly said that since she had sent her e-mail from a personal account, and he had replied from a personal account, there was no reason for the college to be involved. He also said in an interview on Sunday that he was not advocating a literal revolt by soldiers, and that he would have replied with a different tone had he realized he was communicating with a student.

Daly did not respond to phone or e-mail messages last night seeking comment on his resignation. Previously, he said that his critics were trying to silence his anti-war views.

In his statement announcing Daly's resignation, Austin called the First Amendment "the most precious freedom all Americans share," and said that he was "committed to working unceasingly" to protect the freedom of speech of students and faculty members at the college. But he said that he also had an obligation to enforce state laws and college policies "to ensure that all members of our college are free and encouraged to exercise their right to free speech without fear of intimidation or retaliation."

Austin went on to say that "the recent dispute between two members of our college community -- adjunct instructor John Daly and a student representing a new student club -- speaks clearly to the complexity of addressing these issues in these difficult and controversial times."

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  • What's complex about good manners?
  • Posted by Homer , Regular guy at Average college on November 23, 2005 at 5:31am EST
  • With all due respect to WCCC's Austin, about his carefully-prepared PR statement on the Daly matter that notes ".. speaks clearly to the complexity of addressing these issues .."

    What is so complex about good manners?

    What is so complex about graciousness?

    What is so complex about self-control? (Mr. Daly's creditors will find that out, soon.)

    Oh -- academic freedom says we can be immature cultural pigs. We're above societal norms. Darn -- so much stuff to un-learn.

    We're supposed to be immature cultural pigs to taxpayers, students, and alumni, right?

  • Irony upon Irony
  • Posted by Christopher Phelps , Department of History at The Ohio State University on November 23, 2005 at 7:52am EST
  • I guess it does not occur to Homer that calling other people "immature cultural pigs" might itself be indicative of very poor manners. Perhaps we can expect little in the way of consistency, graciousness, or courtesy from someone who is cowardly and hides behind all-too-apt pseudonyms as "Homer" and "Bart," not realizing that those imaginary figures represent and pillory American philistinism.

  • graciousness
  • Posted by Patrick Goold , Associate Professor of Philosophy at Virginia Wesleyan College on November 23, 2005 at 8:22am EST
  • Like "Homer" I favor graciousness. Civility. Good manners. I have found these virtues more, not less, important when communicating via e-mail.

    Like "Homer" I also fail to see the complexity of the issue. Mr. Daly is driven out of his job for private speech.

    Unlike "Homer" I am not comforted by the simplicity of the situation. I find it very disturbing.

  • Good riddance
  • Posted by Enoch on November 23, 2005 at 8:38am EST
  • You professors should not have a protected, taxpayer-subsidized status that allows you to propagandize the students. Do your job, teach your subject, and shut the hell up about your political views, which are of no interest to anyone but yourself. If you want to flap your gums about politics, you should run the risk of being fired, just like everyone else in America.

  • Death Threats in Case?
  • Posted by John K. Wilson on November 23, 2005 at 8:42am EST
  • Good manners are greatly overrated. But what should really concern people in this case is the apparent threats which haven't been discussed. The board's announcement for its meeting declared that it would address Daly's job and "certain safety concerns that arose as a result thereof." Were there death threats made? That would explain why Daly decided to resign so suddenly.

  • Freedom
  • Posted by James on November 23, 2005 at 9:22am EST
  • Should there a law prohibiting thought abuse(as in a professor abusing the thought process by intimidation)? There are limits to everything, even speed on the highways and the yellow lines. This abuser and many like him need some educating on what the role of the educator is. They could also use some sensitivity training in the area of harassment and hate speech.

  • Another notch in the barbarian's gun
  • Posted by lnp3 at Columbia University on November 23, 2005 at 10:27am EST
  • This really stinks. If I were a tenured professor and received an email out of the blue from somebody using a hotmail address promoting a prowar rally, I'd probably say the same sort of thing that this adjunct did. This guy lost his job because he is an adjunct. Period. It seems that adjuncts are the Walmart employees of the academy. Obviously, improving the university's bottom line goes hand in hand with political repression.

  • Adjunct in E-Mail Uproar Quits
  • Posted by John Sharp on November 23, 2005 at 10:53am EST
  • I am a retired Marine Corps Officer. The author does have the First Amendment Right to oppose the war but when he advocates insurrection and the killing of senior officers in the service of their country, he has crossed the line. It is hard enough for the families of those who are serving their country in combat without having "leftwing" liberals advocating the death of their love ones.

  • Brave words from the tenured
  • Posted by Homer on November 23, 2005 at 11:09am EST
  • "I guess it does not occur to Homer that calling other people “immature cultural pigs” might itself be indicative of very poor manners."

    Well, sir -- why not show us how courageous you really are?

    Voluntarily return your tenure to the state of Ohio and I will step into the public arena to deal with you, face to face, in your Columbus office.

    That is, if you think you can -- I am betting $100,000 that you don't have that courage. You're not even an Ivy PhD.

    Contact me through IHE.

    [Distant sound of knees knocking, teeth chattering]

  • Posted by RE Ramcharan , JD on November 23, 2005 at 11:16am EST
  • Apart from questions of freedom of speech or academic class bias, Prof. Daly seems to be pretty careless about the way he slings words around for somebody who teaches English. Suppose he didn't really mean to say that American troops should kill their officers. It was up to him to say what he did mean in such a way as to not be misunderstood.

    If you say, "Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors," either you mean what you say (viz., that you want soldiers in Iraq to turn their guns on their superiors) or you don't. Most people will decide the question on the basis of what you've said, not on some after the fact assertion that it was meant "in the most metaphoric sense."

    Prof. Daly has swerved into a valuable lesson: Saying whatever pops into your head is not always the best thing to do.

  • John Daly
  • Posted by Louis Calabro , President at European/American Issues Forum on November 23, 2005 at 11:59am EST
  • Homer: Free speech does not extend to the level of falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater.

    Suggesting that military personnel turn their guns on to their superiors is, to many of us, reprehensible and beyond the pale of free speech protection.

    Your speech though, as idiotic as it may be, still remains protected as free speech by ALL the military personnel working for ALL Americans, even you. Best wishes, Lou Calabro

  • Thanksgiving
  • Posted by Christopher Phelps , Department of History at The Ohio State University on November 23, 2005 at 12:25pm EST
  • One thing I'll give thanks to tomorrow is off-the-wall ad hominem attacks, ostensibly offered in defense of "civility," that merely serve to make my point perfectly.

  • Prof Daly
  • Posted by Iva Cadmus , Alunni at Warren CountyCommunity College on November 23, 2005 at 1:18pm EST
  • I live here in Warren County and wish to thank Mr. Daly. After interacting with the locals it seems that most were unaware of Ms. Beach's organization and the vicious nature of the group A.N.S.W.E.R. This is a solid Republican county and this incident can only assist the support for the Young America's Foundation. He has also helped educate our parents, remember them, the ones who pay the taxes and tuition,to the danger of installing irresponisble educators who promote censorship and intolerance to young students. Mr. Daly's e-mail was not his personal business and opinion, if it was he would have directed it to a general audience, it was written to personally attack a young student in an institution where he was employed.

  • YESSSS!!!!
  • Posted by Lars on November 23, 2005 at 1:42pm EST
  • Comrades!!! Are we having what can be called a testosterone-filled virtual brawl or what? Free speech, not free speech, free screech, and so on, YESSSS!!!!

    Let the testosterone and the good times roll!

    Afterwards, we can all have a nice turkey and wipe our mouths in a white linen tablecloth.

  • Thanksgiving, Pt. II
  • Posted by Homer on November 23, 2005 at 1:42pm EST
  • "One thing I’ll give thanks to tomorrow is off-the-wall ad hominem attacks, ostensibly offered in defense of “civility,” that merely serve to make my point perfectly."

    And I'll give thanks that the courage of the tenured has been proven by the gentleman's response.

    Sir -- if taxpayer-supported academia is too much for you to bear -- no one is forcing you to stay.

    Please feel free to leave, anytime you want. Your open position will draw at least 50 qualified applicants. Within weeks of your leaving, no one will notice your departure.

    Have a nice day.

  • The fallacy of Intellect
  • Posted by Kevin Taylor on November 23, 2005 at 8:01pm EST
  • "Irony upon Irony"

    i·ro·ny (ī'rə-nē, ī'ər-) n., pl. -nies:
    Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.

    Amazing that someone (Christopher Phelps, Department of History at The Ohio State University) upon reading the name "Homer", would first assume cartoon characters as opposed to an epic Greek poet.

    The facts are that Daly either;
    1) Meant what he said, or
    2) Is a dreadful English professor

    Any decision involving Daly must be made on these facts.

  • Restated: treason
  • Posted by Rich Godfrey on November 23, 2005 at 10:20pm EST
  • somebody questioned if advocating the killing of American officers on the field of battle constitutes advocating armed rebellion against the United States. If it doesn't, I'd like to hear what DOES.

    This adjunct needs to be indicted for treason. That's the reason he rubbed everybody the wrong way: not his manners, not academic freedom, not his phraseology.

    In seeking to preserve free speech, we have neglected to enforce the common welfare and let not just this ranter but many, many more worse than he get away with attempting to kill the goose that lays their golden eggs.

    If we are to have a nation (and I believe this ex-adjunct wants us NOT to have a nation, but to be under the heel of whoever is the most lethal, least decent dictator in the world) we must on occasion act like it and enforce the line that bounds acceptable behavior as written in our Constitution.

  • Thus always to traitors
  • Posted by Cato on November 24, 2005 at 6:17am EST
  • Yes, Rich Godfrey is exactly right -- it is treason for a citizen to advocate the murder of American soldiers, not just bad taste and manners. Losing a job seems to be the least of the penalties which should be applied, with due process.

  • Gleichschaltung
  • Posted by Deutsche Studentenbund on November 24, 2005 at 6:18am EST
  • Hopefully, adjuncts on all college campuses will get the message: parents are not paying good money to have their sons and daughters exposed to views outside the mainstream, or at least not by people who actually defend such views.

    No one should be allowed to shout "fire" in a crowded theater. Free speech has its limits. Professors who speak out against the government should be treated like employees in a private firm who advertise for a competitor's product--not on the boss's dime!

    Let students go to socialist Canada or France if they want all that open inquiry stuff. Let's keep this the land of the free by getting rid of those who don't agree.

  • Dave Chappelle on free speech
  • Posted by Homer on November 24, 2005 at 12:13pm EST
  • One episode of "Chappelle's Show" that Dave couldn't get past the censors was "The Gay KKK," who wore pink sheets.

    Per the discussion on civility and with the Dave-man, Mr. Daly can try this at his next job --

    It is not "Death to Amerika" -- it is "Please kill yourself now, Amerika."

    It is not "Death to Israel" -- it is "Please surrender to Osama, then commit hari-kari, Israel."

    I have lots of friends who had their family property stolen by Communists and Communist-sympathizing socialists.

    They will never -- never, ever -- let that happen in the U.S. As in, "over their dead bodies, as the last breath leaves their bodies."

  • Germans -- Moral Authorities for our times
  • Posted by Cato on November 24, 2005 at 12:13pm EST
  • It is difficult to know if "Deutsche Studentenbund" is being satirical or just German. Advocating murder would seem to be a bad thing, you'd think, but I'm apparently not conversant with that rich culture. My grandfather had some opinions, though.

  • NO TREASON WHATSOEVER
  • Posted by Jeff Daddario , Graduate: Economics at UCONN on November 24, 2005 at 6:15pm EST
  • “real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors and fight for just causes and for people’s needs.”

    He's not asking someone to do it, he's not persuading anyone to do it, he's merely stating what happened in wars that have spanned our countries history; the Vietnam War being the very latest when soldiers, questioning their very souls as to why there were there, believed the only way out was to turn on their own commanders. And THATS why Vietname ended. Nobody EVER talks about that though, wonder why...but its a FACT

    Face it people, it happened, and not to long ago. And, might I add this: Why is it that the veterans we so admire and cherish now roam the streets like those of New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles as homeless people you wouldnt think twice about as you trotted on your merry way to Starbucks. How much does YAF really care about War Vets?

    Your ideas concerning this issue are compounded by mountains of ironic hypocrisies. Honestly, go research it.

    I give him credit not for what he said but for his knowledge on what actually happens, and what has happened in the past...

  • Of course it's treason
  • Posted by Cato on November 25, 2005 at 7:18am EST
  • Read history, not pamphlets from your leftist co-ops. The Vietnam War did not end because of mutiny. The vast majority of soldiers, sailors, airman and marines in that conflict did their duty. Here in this last comment is the fruit of decades of corrupted education from politicized professors. What crap.

    What if the statement was, "Abortion will end when someone turns their guns on the abortionists."? I imagine the reaction from the left would be very different. Some would say it is incitement to murder (which it is). Remember "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?" I am always impressed by how some educated people can fail to see the plain sense of their words.

  • Whoa, Hoss!
  • Posted by Homer on November 25, 2005 at 9:40am EST
  • " .. he’s merely stating what happened in wars that have spanned our countries history; the Vietnam War .."

    Vietnam was about DRAFTEES.

    Today's military is compromised of ENLISTEES.

    Is there a difference? I think so.

    Further -- Mr. Daly claimed communism had fewer problems than capitalism.

    Well -- as someone whose elderly relatives were tortured by Mr. Daly's communist friends, I beg to differ.

  • Civility
  • Posted by Christopher Phelps , Department of History at The Ohio State University on November 26, 2005 at 2:41pm EST
  • To Kevin Taylor: If you read around on IHE, you'll see that "Homer" often posts as "Bart." A classical reference? I think not. Actually he used to post as "Homer Simpson."

    As for Homer's fulminations, let's see... I'm to foresake tenure, granted only after rigorous and extensive peer review, both external and internal, of my scholarship, teaching, and service, cleared at multiple levels of the university, and do so on a whim because of a random posting on a message board by an anonymous person who hasn't the integrity to divulge their identity and who doesn't evince any understanding of how universities work, only showing a know-nothing and anti-intellectual animus toward all of the academy, but promises me $100,000 if I do give it up. If I turn down this amazing, tantalizing, too-good-to-be-true offer--almost as good as spam notifications of winning the U.K. lottery or Nigerian bank account transfers--I am guilty of cowardice. Or is it wisdom? You be the judge, readers.

    My last post, friends. I'm sure more absurd attacks will follow, but there's only so much time in a day, and I've used up my quotient.

    It's too bad the IHE boards are so full of abusive, silly non sequitors rather than dialogue that might actually advance a discussion. Perhaps IHE should consider moderated boards.

    In order to bring this full circle, my original point was merely that those calling for greater civility ought to practice it, not just preach it. I still maintain that some on this board who demand civility of adjunct instructors would benefit from displaying a bit more of it in their own communications.

  • 94-word paragraph - nice
  • Posted by Homer (not Socrates) , Teacher at Ancient Greece on November 27, 2005 at 10:44am EST
  • My, my, my .. a 94-word sentence. And there are those who think Rush Limbaugh is verbose. Obviously, they should visit The Buckeye State.

    As with Limbaugh -- the verbose enjoy their own voice so much, they never understand others.

    As to the issue of tenure and the abuse resulting from it -- NEWSFLASH: this is a national issue. To wit:

    http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/08/23/churchill

    http://insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/08/shortell

    http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/11/10/bloggers

    http://insidehighered.com/views/2005/05/23/johnson

    http://volokh.com/posts/chain_1080568316.shtml

    As to the "rigor" of tenure: per previous ... if the entire OSU History Department were kidnapped by Osama, there are so many qualified, underemployed/unemployed PhDs in history, replacements could be found within weeks. With such an oversupply of labor, if someone thinks she/he is irreplaceable, she/he is delusional.

    As to the courage of the tenured -- previous established that. If one were that outstanding, she/he would double her/his pay at a private think-tank. Inertia on the public dime is telling, isn't it?

    As to $100,000 -- re-read previous. Doesn't apply to the tenured -- other way around. Have to read more closely, sir. (Is that why history PhDs didn't go to law school?)

    Again -- if life in taxpayer-owned academia is so just so difficult -- please just leave and make life better for everyone. Complaining and whining is so unbecoming, so '70s. If one is so talented, one has to lower oneself to serve others, one should just leave for greener pa$ture$, like Michael Moore.

    As to: "Perhaps IHE should consider moderated boards."

    SHEESH! How many 1000s of times, does it have to be posted, there IS a moderator on IHE? In the words of Dr. Howard Dean: "AAAAAH!"

    Example: this is an UN-moderated board:

    http://www.poynter.org/article_feedback/article_feedback_list.asp?id=14474

    This is a moderated board:

    http://www.poynter.org/forum/?id=letters

    As those tenured who demand the untenured be civil to them -- but, oddly, NEVER vice-versa -- get a clue.

    With student debt loads and college costs approaching financially unsustainable levels, IMHO declarations of financial exigency (which voids tenure agreements) cannot be ruled out. For one associate professor, an OSU could pay for 7.0 1/4-time adjuncts (lot of private/public Ivy lawyers in Columbus who would love to teach).

    With major U.S. companies like General Motors nearing bankruptcy (and no solution yet from M. Moore) -- how many more histories of the SDS and Jane Fonda are really necessary and affordable? As opposed to paying for food stamps?

  • Whose ox is being gored...
  • Posted by Cathy Young at Reason Magazine on November 27, 2005 at 10:44am EST
  • I agree that what happened to Daly has troubling implications for academic freedom.

    However, I do find it ironic that in his email to Beach, Daly promises to do everything he can to silence groups such as hers and make sure that their views are not heard on the campus. So there's a bit of hypocrisy in his claiming the protection of free speech for his own views.

    As Cato noted: suppose Daly -- or some far-right intellectual twin of his -- had written, "Abortion will end when someone turns their guns on the abortionists." Suppose, moreover, that he had written this to a student who had emailed him about a pro-choice event. Suppose he had also written, "I will continue to expose your pro-death, godless views until groups like yours won't dare show their face on a college campus." And suppose he had objected to an overly negative portrayal of Nazism (or even South African apartheid) rather than Communism.

    Honestly, how many of the people who are now upset at the violation of Daly's First Amendment rights would still be defending fredom of speech for his right-wing counterpart?

    See more on my blog:

    Academic freedom, extremism, and whose ex is being gored

  • Posted by DeWayne on November 27, 2005 at 12:55pm EST
  • From the comments it seems clear that the crack fingertips of the 101st Internet Keyboarders are valiantly defending American civilization yet again from those who have expressed bad thoughts...in their personal and private communications. These defenders do so because they love freedom so much.

    Perhaps to avoid future situations, we should compel academics to confess all of their thoughts and thus weed out those who have bad ones. Because, and I'm sure our obtuse friends in wingernutdom would agree, Mr. Daly's offense was not in its actual expression but in it's existence. Mr. Daly harbored and nurtured bad thoughts, plain and simple. For indeed, Mr. Daly would have been guilty even if he had merely responded, in his private personal communication, that he had "bad thoughts about" Iraq and that overclass organization, Young America's Foundation. Because we can all agree that bad thoughts, regardless of content, are bad and shouldn't be tolerated.

  • Professor Daly and his decision to quit job
  • Posted by Feudi Pandola on November 28, 2005 at 2:29pm EST
  • I was heartened by Professor Daly's decision to quit his job. It seems the best course of action for all involved. Mr. Daly's comment that he did not know he was addressing a student in his email sounds spurrious, at best.

    Other people on that campus have written that posters announcing the lecture were placed throughout the campus by the student group involved. In any event. Mr. Daly's reaction to this group clearly violated every tenet of academic freedom.

    My greater concern is the "mental straitjacketing" on our college campuses by those who cry out the loudest for academic freedom. Far too often their idea of academic freedom does not extend beyond their own myopic field of vision.

  • Privacy
  • Posted by Kevin , Undergraduate on November 30, 2005 at 10:11am EST
  • This is no longer private in that it relates to the business of the university. When caught in misconduct, privacy is a poor defense - the same ones used in the olden days by those accused of sexual harrassment - "This doesn't concern you." Well, today it does.