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December 8, 2005

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The conservative journal The New Criterion is the last place you'd expect to find any gratitude for Ward Churchill. But writing there this summer, Roger Kimball found a "bright side" to the controversial University of Colorado professor: He brought more scrutiny to higher education.

In an essay called "Retaking the University: A Battle Plan," Kimball writes that "one of the chief tasks for critics of what has happened to academic life in this country is to show the extent to which Ward Churchill" is not unusual, but is "the predictable result of institutions that have gradually abandoned their commitment to education for the sake of radical posturing."

The public revulsion to Churchill's statements -- especially his comparison of those who died in the World Trade Center on 9/11 to "little Eichmanns" -- is "good news," Kimball writes, in that it suggests that higher education "may be about to change."

Kimball isn't the only one who thinks that the battles in academe over the last year may add up to something far more significant than the question of whether Churchill can hang on to his tenure, whether a new course on intelligent design is ever offered at the University of Kansas, or whether universities hire more conservatives.

Anne D. Neal, president of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a group that pushes for a traditional curriculum, says that she believes we are "either approaching or at a tipping point" in terms of public attitudes about higher education, adding that "in looking at the issues of concern to us, we're seeing a real response and receptivity unlike any I've seen before."

From a different perspective, Cary Nelson, the Jubilee Professor of Liberal Arts and Sciences and professor of English at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, says he sees "an emerging discomfort with faculty free speech," especially on issues related to Iraq, terrorism and certain other topics. He thinks that the issues on which academics are finding themselves on the defensive today are much more combustible politically than the issues for which conservatives attacked academe in previous rounds of culture wars.

"The culture wars of the '80s were really a kind of backwater. How much Shakespeare was or was not being taught wasn't a big issue to an awful lot of Americans, so a lot of the culture wars were really just an amusing bit of public entertainment," he says.

Now, with colleges being criticized for the views of Ward Churchill (whose views aren't exactly mainstream even among the more liberal parts of academe), for dissent on Iraq, for defending evolution, the issues being talked about are much more central to many more people. "I really fear tolerance for free speech and criticism is going to decline rapidly," he says.

Alan I. Leshner, chief executive officer of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, says that at no point in his adult lifetime has he seen attacks on science, and on the universities that perform science, that are as serious as those today. While modern American history has had plenty of "blips" in the relationship between science and religion, there is a "substantial tension" today that is dangerous, Leshner says.

Welcome to the culture wars of 2005, where most of the fighting has not been about great books or even multiculturalism, but about politics, terrorism, war and peace, religion, God and evolution.

To recap some of the greatest hits.... The Churchill furor started in January. Even though he has been a regular on the campus speaking circuit for years, some critics of a planned talk at Hamilton College circulated copies of one of his more inflammatory essays and all of the sudden everyone knew about him. The Hamilton center that invited Churchill has now lost most of its budget authority and Churchill faces an investigation in Colorado that may cost him his tenure -- not for his statements, but for alleged research misconduct that he denies.

As the Churchill controversy grew, three social scientists released a study charging that academics leaned far to the left and that conservatives and Christians had a hard time being hired as professors. That study was promptly disputed by other scholars, who said it was simplistic and part of a well financed conservative campaign to discredit academe.

The debates over Ward Churchill and professors' political leanings were a great platform for David Horowitz, the '60s radical-turned-conservative activist, who won hearings, a (non binding and watered down) place in the current versions of the Higher Education Act, and a few legislative victories for his "Academic Bill of Rights," which he said protected students, and which many faculty members said was designed to take away their freedom of expression. Horowitz told anyone who would listen about cases in which students were punished for, to cite one of his favorite examples, defending President Bush -- although some of his examples didn't exactly check out.

As the year went on, Christian schools sued the University of California for not counting high school courses based on creationism or intelligent design as biology, the university's Berkeley campus was sued because it maintains a Web site to help teachers understand evolution,  the University of Kansas found itself first announcing and then withdrawing a course on intelligent design amid criticism about a professor who mocked fundamentalists and Roman Catholics, and many Dartmouth College students were offended by a convocation speech about Jesus.

As 2005 drew to a close, a professor sued Indiana University of Pennsylvania after he was denied tenure, he says, for maintaining a death count on the war in Iraq, and an adjunct quit suddenly at Warren County Community College, in New Jersey, amid a flap over harsh anti-war statements he made in an e-mail message to a student.

So how do all of these incidents -- and numerous others -- define the culture wars of 2005?

Gregory S. Jay, director of the Cultures and Communities Program at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee, says that he believes the last big round of the culture wars about higher education raged in the 1980s and early '90s -- when critics like William Bennett and Lynne V. Cheney regularly gave talks blasting colleges for their curriculums. "I think that attempt by conservatives ended in part because of the structural protections that many academics have in tenure," Jay says.

As a result, he argues, conservatives attacked higher education indirectly in the '90s and the first part of this decade through "defunding" public colleges and creating an economic situation where the proportion of tenure-track positions declined. So now, as cultural attacks on colleges are renewed, Jay says, academe finds itself with a less secure financial base and many professors don't have any meaningful job security.

Others see what is going on now as but the latest sign of a conflict that is centuries old. James Davison Hunter, who teaches sociology and religious studies at the University of Virginia, says that "this kind of conflict is always just beneath the surface of public life and is driven by competing visions of a good society."

Hunter, author of Culture Wars: the Struggle to Define America and Before the Shooting Begins: Searching for Democracy in America's Culture War, traces the splits over academe (and society broadly) back to Europe, to the philosophes of the Enlightenment and the clerics of the ancien regime. "This isn't driven by issues," he says. "Issues like intelligent design and the war are manifestations of this deeper debate."

Still others see the serious issues in the country -- such as terrorism and the war in Iraq -- as being responsible for much of the ideological debate today, although people arrive at that conclusion in different ways.

Roger Bowen, general secretary of the American Association of University Professors, says that when things aren't going well for conservatives -- say a war without victory in sight, a deficit increasing at shocking rates, indictments of prominent Republicans -- higher education is a useful whipping boy.

"As a way of deflecting attention from real problems, cultural warriors look to the universities, which are staffed by free-thinking people, and people who are willing to say that the emperor is naked, and attack. It allows them to stay on the offensive," Bowen says. Since conservatives now control the White House, both houses of Congress, and the courts, they have a more difficult time explaining away the flaws in the country, he asserts.

"Look at the historical anti-intellectualism in America and the mistrust of the academy, and we are an easy target," he says.

Neal of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni sees the impact of terrorism and war in a different way. She notes that Ward Churchill was saying "outrageous things" before September 11 and yet the public never noticed. While Neal says that professors "have a right to express their views, however ludicrous they may be," she says it's also appropriate to counter those views and to ask whether only certain sets of views are presented to students.

In the wake of 9/11, with a war going on, and people more concerned about terrorism generally, she says, there may be more willingness to challenge professors. "I think that when it's a matter of life and death, people tend to look at a topic in a different way. Certainly Ward Churchill got more attention in light of 9/11 and succeeding events than he would have otherwise," Neal says. "What's happened is that if faculty were saying outrageous things in the past, perhaps we didn't notice it."

If the war and 9/11 are relatively recent, some of the issues that are now in the forefront of attention -- God and evolution -- are hardly recent developments. So why are so many religious leaders questioning science and research universities right now, prompting some researchers to become harshly critical of the activities of some religious groups?

Robert C. Andringa, president of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities, says that the growing divide between religious America and researchers in America shouldn't be happening. "For much of history, science has been carried out enthusiastically by people of faith," he says. Those who suggest that one must make a choice between science and religion are creating "an ill-conceived, arbitrary and unfortunate separation."

Andringa says that there are people in the churches and in the academy who are creating divisions.

"As a person who takes my faith seriously, I am appalled sometimes at the insensitive, aggressive and disrespectful way in which some in the religious right express their opposition to those who differ. I don't think that's the model of Christ, and I think we are called actually in the Bible to be ministers of reconciliation, to think more highly of others than ourselves, to turn the other cheek, to go the extra mile, and some of these good lessons are sadly lost on some people who are engaging in these culture wars," he says.

At the same time, he adds that "there is a perception and unfortunately I think it's accurate in many cases that intellectuals today are advocates of diversity until it comes to religion," and that academe -- including secular academe -- needs to give more thoughtful consideration to religious issues. "To be intellectually honest, one has to look at the world, and say a majority of the people of the world are religious. how can we carry on the work of the academy without trying to understand that world?" he says.

Leshner, of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, echoes Andringa, noting that most religious people have no trouble with science and that many scientists take faith seriously. He would like people to see science and religion as "different," but not competing, domains.

Some of the tensions around science today -- such as those involving stem cell research -- reflect relatively recent scientific advances. But Leshner says flatly that he does not know why evolution has come under such attack now. He says that university scientists "have a tremendous need for engagement" with religious groups of all denominations to repair the damage that is going on now, but he adds that "most people don't know how to go about having that discussion."

The impact of the intensified culture wars is negative in many ways, scholars say. Bowen of the AAUP says that academics nationwide are being smeared when people like Kimball imply that a Ward Churchill reflects the views of many professors. "I wouldn't call Churchill a liberal academic. I'd call him an extremist, just as I think Horowitz is an extremist. They both use inflated language and see a lot of conspiracies. It's unfortunate," Bowen says.

He adds that this kind of smearing has an impact, with a declining respect for professors making it possible for legislators to ignore important needs in higher education and to question tenure.

Bowen also says that many people who are attacked find themselves unable to fight back. The professor at Warren County Community College, for example, had what many considered to be a good defense. While the e-mail he sent might have appeared rude if he had known he was sending it to a student, he thought he was sending it to an activist with a national conservative organization and not to a student. That defense never was heard by most people, Bowen says, because the professor was an adjunct and didn't have the means to fight.

"I think there is greater vulnerability in that the poor fellow in New Jersey was a contingent faculty -- part time. He didn't have any protection," Bowen says. And most administrators feel that they can't afford a controversy. "There is an automatic fear that if there is controversy on our campus, I may lose support of administrators and legislators," he says.

Jay says that periods like the one academe is in now encourage professors -- especially those without tenure -- to keep quiet. "I think we've institutionalized a certain self-censorship in the academy. I think people are more careful about what they say," he says, especially with so few people getting a shot at tenure. "Tenure and promotion committees are still feared, and people look at what's going on and don't want to give the other side cannon fodder."

"I see real regression on many issues," Jay says, and for all the complaints about liberal academe, "I see a more conservative climate than we had 10 years ago."

To get out of the current situation, some say that colleges need to take more of a role in not just being a place for people to express opinions of all types, but in shaping debates. Andringa of the Christian colleges group says that he thinks about this issue a lot because his membership -- while thought of by many academics as conservative -- includes colleges affiliated with pacifist faiths that find themselves dissenters about the war in Iraq.

Colleges generally have people who dissent from popular views, he says, but too frequently, the public hears only the dissent and only the more extreme dissent.

"It seems to me that any educational institution in any community should say, 'We are the ones who foster dialogue over tough issues, so we are going to be very thoughtful in how we create forums for both sides, for all sides,'" he says. If colleges more actively created such forums, he says, people might not associate colleges with just one point of view and -- perhaps more importantly -- people would leave such forums with new ideas to think about.

But Andringa says he sees few colleges doing this. "I think the vocal anti-war faculty find their own platforms with blogs or classrooms or columns in the local paper, which may give a bad rap to the whole institution," he says. "Why should a university depend on rallies organized by one side or another rather than having a president say, 'This is one of the big issues of our time, so let's discuss it.' "

Others agree, and many educators say that the solution is more civility and more of an attempt to find reasoned middle ground on tough issues. But while no academics are coming out against civility, some worry that calls for reasoned debate can also be a way of encouraging a blandness of opinion and take away the role of academics in raising tough issues that others might ignore.

Nelson of Illinois, author of Manifesto of a Tenured Radical and other books about higher education, says that in times like these, many people -- including many faculty members -- want professors to speak with "sweet reasonableness."

But such an approach limits the role of professors, he says. In the classroom, he says, professors frequently "take an outrageous position to get people talking," and such a technique works. Faculty members who want to be public intellectuals shouldn't be afraid to do the same thing, he says.

"I think there is utility to public statements that are sometimes surreal and outrageous," he says. "Clearly debate can be provoked by statements and I'd to think that faculty members can't play the game of strategically offending people. We do that in the classroom. Why can't we use that in the public sphere?"

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Comments on The Culture Wars of 2005

  • Remember the past
  • Posted by R.A. Shaw on December 8, 2005 at 6:04am EST
  • A well-done article on a difficult topic. A bit of context: U.S. higher education grew with the U.S. in the post-WWII era. Times were good, gas was cheap, and the U.S. had no real economic competition. Plenty of resources for moon shots, highway building, campus construction, SDS rallies, etc.

    That era no longer exists -- Japan, Germany, China, Korea, and others are all intensely competing with the U.S. in the global economy.

    Millions of U.S. workers have lost their middle-class lifestyles. They don't want to hear about moon shots -- or esoteric debates led by career government workers who have lifetime tenure.

    And when they see faux-Indian radical wanna-be's take advantage of public funding and affirmative action (why hire a reservation-raised American Indian?), they vote their anger and reduce spending for higher education. And no one can force them to do otherwise.

    IMHO, this is not about the First Amendment. This is about the working-class, wondering what it is getting for its investment in higher education, in an era of fierce global competition. And glass-breaking protests won't make that competition go away.

    These decent, hard-working folks are asking pointed questions and they want direct, specific answers. For them, what higher education accomplishes is not some weird, abstract academic debate -- it is real, here, and now.

    There is a First Amendment. There is "academic freedom." Those are givens.

    The main issue: with so many educational options (community colleges, AP, accredited online) and a glut of PhDs in some domains -- why should financially-strained U.S. taxpayers fund would-be radicals taking an easy ride on a government dime?

    I know what comes next -- the "need to develop critical thinking." Well -- why not just have the students read the English language versions of Le Monde and The People's Daily? And conserve resources? (Oh, BTW -- watching family and friends lose their jobs generally helps develop the ability to criticize.)

    Meanwhile, the radical wanna-be's can use public parks to freely speak to whomever wants to listen and throw coins into the collection box.

  • Culture and Politics
  • Posted by Christopher Phelps , Department of History at The Ohio State University on December 8, 2005 at 8:02am EST
  • A very useful survey of the current situation. A quibble: For the most part this seems less a "culture" war than a political battle. The war in Iraq and criticism of it are at the center of the storm. The present horizon in this sense is more a descendant of McCarthyism and its attacks on the university, on the right, and of the sixties and its particular forms of speech expression, which linger on the left, rather than the 1980s-1990s culture wars (which dealt with gender, race, sexuality, and the like -- attitudinal or belief-structures rather than clear-cut issues of state). Only the "intelligent design" issue seems to me an extension of the "culture war" mode.

  • hire less veterans
  • Posted by Larry on December 8, 2005 at 8:03am EST
  • Ward Churchill isn’t unusual? Darn. I never knew that universities were filled with veteran American-Indians (who aren’t American Indian because a few white people say that they are not) that were critical of the war, and were accused of plagiarism at precisely the same time they said politically unpopular things. Indeed, I had no idea so many Americans read the works of most Academics, like, it seems most Americans have read Churchill’s works. (I can’t imagine people commenting on his work without reading it, because to do so would be un-American.)

    Anyway, this stuff is nothing new. It has been going on for years. With the internet and blogs it happens in a much faster manner, but it has always been cool to blame higher education.

    I guess the solution is to hire less veterans because there have been two veterans who turned out be liars in academe in the past year, and America can’t afford another one. Also, white tenure committees should consult medicine men to make sure that candidates are real Indians.

  • Do the Same Rules Apply to Conservative Academics?
  • Posted by Larry Caldwell , President at Quality Science Education for All on December 8, 2005 at 10:14am EST
  • This is an interesting and though-provoking article. It would have been even more interesting if you had discussed the incidents at various colleges in which professors and other scientists are being censored or discriminated against by their colleagues and institutions for expressing support for intelligent design, and the prevailing academic climate in which graduate students in science are reluctant to express public support for intelligent design for fear of jeopardizing their chances of receiving a Ph.D. Why is it that academia doesn't condemn censorship of conservative viewpoints on such topics with the same vigor that it defends the unfettered right of academics to express liberal viewpoints?

  • conservative academics and intelligent design
  • Posted by red-herring spotter on December 8, 2005 at 2:22pm EST
  • you do a disservice to thoughtful conservatives by implicitly conflating them with support for intelligent design. it's a red-herring, a canard, a straw-man. ID supporters are criticized for support of pseudo-science, not conservative beliefs. the same goes for liberal academics who spout nonsense -- they're called on their bs as well.

  • Quality education, eh?
  • Posted by Ophelia Benson , Editor at Butterflies and Wheels on December 8, 2005 at 4:59pm EST
  • "Quality Science Education for All" is interesting.

    "By "Quality Science Education," we mean a science education that exposes students to the scientific strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory...We strive to equip, educate and help parents, teachers, students and other citizens to achieve Quality Science Education in their local public schools. When necessary, we will take legal action to secure and defend their right to do so."

    Meanwhile, apparently, it will obfuscate by translating epistemic or scientific issues into "conservative" and "liberal" as if it were all just a matter of opinion rather than a matter of evidence and warrant.

  • elisions
  • Posted by Fiat Lux on December 8, 2005 at 7:12pm EST
  • Most colleges and universities I am familiar with have Religious Studies departments or something akin to them. Can anyone name a high profile instance in which such a department has been on the chopping block, gutted or one of its faculty denied tenure for their religious commitments? I think not. So much for academe's supposed antipathy to religion--taken as an "article of faith" in this piece.

    What many in academe rightly object to is a few vocal, often well-funded religious prostelytizers (usually, but not always, fundamentalist Christians) encroaching on disciplines in which they are woefully educated. These few then cry foul, censorship, or hypocrisy when their clumbsy attacks are rebuffed. Intelligent design, is of course, an excellent illustration.

    Yes, let us "teach the controversy" that those on the religious right who benefit so much from science in the form of technology, medicine etc. are duplicitous enough to reject science when it doesn't suit their oft-unexamined beliefs. Let us teach the controversy that all of the "data" and arguments in the world against evolution, and in favor of ID, give not one whit of evidence in support of Christian theology. In fact, if ID is correct, then Christian creation myths are false. Now there's a controversy, it seems to me. Yes, indeed, let us teach these controversies in our Christian institutions and (relevant) religious studies, sociology of religion and higher ed administration courses where they belong.

  • Iraq & "critical thinking"
  • Posted by A.D. , Established Critical Thinker at Small college on December 9, 2005 at 4:36am EST
  • How extraordinary that the social science faculty and their ideological stenographer-students think Iraq has lead to a new "McCarthyism."

    If the stenographer-students were as critical-thinking as their ideological puppet-masters claim they are, they'd be imbued with the cynicism of those who fought in Vietnam, in-country and on the homefront.

    That is: there is a U.S. Congressional election next year. Our guess is, GWB and Cheney will schedule troop withdrawals just prior to that election, a new "Peace With Honor."

    New boss, same as the old boss. We've seen them (Nixon) -- and you (LBJ) -- before. Why else, do the Perots and McCains do so well? At least, they're different about their approaches.

    Sufficient critical thinking? Too much for the left? The right?

    Mr. W.L. Churchill? Helped raise millions for David Horowitz, et al. DH and GWB are probably laughing all the way to the bank. All thanks to an intellectual schlub who many argue can't tell the material difference between the First Amendment, academic freedom, and basic fact-finding.

    ID? Most of us forgot the biology we were taught, and care more about the Rose Bowl. ID is like Starfleet warp drive or phasers -- a phrase with no real-world application.

    Oh -- yeah, we also know most major churches think ID is a joke (lack of peer-review) -- pass us another beer, please.

    Sufficient critical thinking?

  • One citizen's view
  • Posted by Fred Ray on December 9, 2005 at 9:51pm EST
  • I’m just an ordinary citizen who pays for it all.

    I’m not impressed by people who impose speech codes and “free speech zones” on others, then demand unlimited speech for themselves, and who consider any criticism to be “chilling”; who allow conservative speakers (like Ann Coulter) to be regularly shouted down; and who say nothing when whole editions of “offensive” newspapers are stolen.

    Who preach diversity in departments that are almost entirely made up of Democrats and leftists.

    Nor am I impressed by people who claim to be defending science when they say nothing about the wacky theories of the likes of Vine Deloria, who dismissed “white” science in favor of Indian myth; or feminist claims of “women’s ways of knowing;” or the entire rejection of the Enlightenment by the Postmoderns. And don’t get me started on the pseudoscience of Marx, Freud, Lacan, Derrida, and the rest.

    You call yourselves a community of scholars, yet you refuse to confront outright frauds like Ward Churchill, who is far from the only culprit. And he works on my dime.

    You have no clothes. Maybe you don’t think so, but the Great Unwashed aren’t quite as stupid as you seem to think. It’s time to ask a fundamental question – does the academy belong to the faculty, or to the people?

  • Fred read all that stuff ?
  • Posted by Larry on December 10, 2005 at 9:45am EST
  • Fred, Although I think that you are just another poster here under another name, I guess I will be first to show you a few errors.

    1. You seem to live in a number of different states since you “pay for it all” in at least three states.

    2. There are very few, if any, speech codes on campuses, anymore. Likewise, whether a school can “allow” someone to be shouted down, rather than suppressing the speech of those who are doing the “shouting” is a difficult constitutional issue, since those who are expressing themselves might have first amendment rights, too. (I should note that it is also questionable whether Coulter, who was paid to speak at the school by a student group has the same right to express herself as do the people who paid her. But I don’t think you care about that distinction.)

    3. I am not sure how you know that departments are made up entirely of “Democrats.” This is quite strange to me, since most people I know don’t go around proclaiming their party membership. (I don’t vote, myself.)

    4. I think that you made up the part where you conflate people that oppose intelligent design are the same ones that claim that a “woman’s way of knowing” and other things are science. However, you didn’t address why it is invalid to study the sociology of science, as a means to perfect the scientific method. Therefore, I think you have a political agenda..

    5. I am unsure what Professor Churchill was a “fraud.” He doesn’t seem to have done anything fraudulent, and no group that honestly has read his work has ever said so. Sure, he is a veteran, and like many veterans, he tends to lie, but if you have not read his works, but still comment on them, you are worse.

    Fred, I think you are angry about a lot of things.

  • Plays well with others?
  • Posted by A.D. on December 10, 2005 at 1:29pm EST
  • Just when I thought Larry could play well with others ..

    " .. I am not sure how you know that departments are made up entirely of “Democrats ..”

    http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleID.17443/article_detail.asp

    http://www.bepress.com/forum/vol3/iss2/art8/

    My God, even the administrators basically conceded this point. How many more times does this have to be re-reviewed? And when the heck is Howard Dean going to show up with his own data? He's had at least 18 months.

    ".. I am unsure what Professor Churchill was a “fraud.”

    Fact 1: Mr. W.L. Churchill has been publicly accused by two academic peers of intellectual fraud.

    Fact 2: After its own investigation, CU has launched an official review of Mr. W.L. Churchill's work, with one possible outcome dismissal.

    " .. Sure, he is a veteran, and like many veterans, he tends to lie .."

    Larry, I see your time with Mr. W.L. Churchill has served you well, in the human relations area. You two could open a consulting firm together -- "We'll Make You Miserable, Inc."

    You've said you represent administrations as outside counsel (second-seat). Your comments could have fooled me.

  • Larry's Critique of Fred
  • Posted by RGS on December 10, 2005 at 3:52pm EST
  • For starters, Larry, have you actually read Churchill's article, and John LaVelle's analysis of it? If you do, then try checking Churchill's citations. The score is pretty impressive - LaVelle's right, and Churchill's flat out wrong. Which means his work is worthless as scholarship. The Churchill article on the US Army's use of smallpox as a weapon against Indians is about as worthless as Michael Bellesiles' gun ownership data.

    Have you read Paul Gross and Norman Levitt's book "Higher Superstition: The Academic Left and its Quarrels with Science" yet? The war on science isn't just the work of some Christian fundimentalists arguing for Intelligent Design."

    I'd say the tax payer's right, and you are the one who needs to read something besides the echo-chamber blogs.

    RGS

  • Living in glass houses
  • Posted by A.D. on December 11, 2005 at 4:28pm EST
  • About wars, cultural or otherwise .. recently overheard at a political consultants' luncheon --

    "you throw rocks at people -- don't act surprised if they throw some back."

    As if the 1st Amendment or "academic freedom" was some kind of ultimate source of protection against criticism, or challenges to your department's budget.

    As Chief Justice Roberts recently noted: if you take someone's money, they expect access.

  • Posted by Larry on December 11, 2005 at 7:44pm EST
  • RGS, No, I have no read anything Churchill has written. But, I don’t take a position on whether his work is any good or not, because I was raised never to do this, and it will be un-American and unethical to do so. I will not that most, if not all, of the condemnations and accusations about him are just foot-stomping by people that don’t like him politically. No neutral body has ever found that he did anything wrong. I also didn’t read the book you referred to. However, unless you can explain exactly what you are citing it for, I will assume it is more foot-stomping.

    AD, As I said earlier, most judges (including Roberts, at least when he was on the DC Circuit) make statements during oral argument not to make a point. (This seems to only happen in academe.) But rather to understand someone else’s argument better. Therefore, it is foolhardy to consider a such a question a statement of belief or “the law.” These lawyers have spent their professional lives having every argument critiqued by people whose job it is to critique their arguments.

    But, I also don’t take a position on Fair v. Rumsfeld. (In fact, I rarely take a position on major constitutional issues, because I think it is unethical to do so without spending quite some time researching them.)

    But, let me take your bait and adopted your simplistic spending-clause argument. AD, I wonder if you have taken money from anyone? If you have ever held a job, does this mean that your employer has unfettered access to your home. Does this mean that your employer can dictate what your religion will be, and dock your pay for not attending Scientology meetings ? Does this mean that they can distribute literature for Jews for Jesus at your family reunions. Now, obviously, you might be able to distinguish this situation, so think of my example as only a reason that you should not regard some friendly jousting as anything more than that.

  • Geo. Will answers Larry
  • Posted by A.D. on December 11, 2005 at 9:59pm EST
  • Larry .. Dr. Will is much better than I, at this, so he can go first ..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/09/AR2005120901716.html?nav=hcmodule

    As to " .. AD, I wonder if you have taken money from anyone?"

    Yeah, Larry. I've been self-employed. Had to politely listen to dozens of morons complain about the sun, the moon, and all things earthly.

    Otherwise -- I couldn't pay taxes, to pay for yahoo's like Mr. W.L. Churchill to ape the editorial page of Le Monde to crowds of poor young schelps. The schelps who are accumulating taxpayer-subsidized student debt, every freakin' day. (Sheesh -- you want to hate America? There are less-expensive ways to do it ..)

    But, dang Larry -- maybe next time, I and my friends will accelerate our deductions (legally), pay less tax, and "Mental Ward" might have to pass a collection plate among his stenographer-drones to buy his cigarettes. As the late Rick James would say -- "ain't that a 'b.'

  • Response to Fred
  • Posted by Mike , One Professor's view on December 12, 2005 at 3:44am EST
  • I am just an ordinary professor. Let me start by saying that I do appreciate the support I receive from the taxpayers.

    Speech codes:

    As Larry says, there are fewer odious “speech codes” these days. But, we liberals need to acknowledge that conservative critics, though sometimes exaggerating, played an important role in exposing this problem. We in the academy are far from prefect, but we do respond to outside criticism.

    Diversity:

    “Diversity” refers to overcoming effects of past discrimination. Intellectual diversity is a different issue. We do not value all types of diversity: psychology departments do not hire ESP researchers; astronomy departments do not hire astrologers; and biology departments do not hire creationists. To do otherwise would be to misspend the tax payers’ money.

    Political diversity among faculty is an interesting and perplexing question that has been brought up by the conservatives. I am a mathematician. Politics does not come up in our teaching or research. Job candidates are not asked about their political views. I know of no instances of political discrimination in a math department. Yet, most all the math faculty I know, including myself, are quite liberal. Why is that? The only guesses I have would not satisfy those on the right. (Remember, you pay me to do math, not political analysis.) I might suggest that the Republican Party reconsider its approach to the issue: treat us as you would any other constituency. Instead of berating us for not voting your way, why not try to win us over? Do you really expect us to vote for a party that cuts our funding and flirts with various anti-intellectual currents? If you want our votes, develop a program that attracts us.

    Postmodernism:

    We have taken on the postmodernists. I wrote an article against their excesses. See:
    http://galileo.math.siu.edu/~msulliva/Preprints/socialtext.html

    But, this is an academic debate. They have not gone after our funding nor do the postmodernists have any legislative connections. And, they have raised some interesting philosophical questions.

    Fraudulent Professors:

    I have not read Ward Churchill’s academic writings. However, his public statements do raise troubling concerns about the tenure process. If someone has views as sophomoric as his seem to be at first glance, I do wonder how they could get tenure. In theory tenure is awarded by a board of citizen representatives. But, in practice they rely on administrators who rely on faulty recommendations. Are people being tenured to fill racial targets? Are review committees just voting to promote their friends? Should we have greater public input at earlier stages of the review process? But, keep in mind that affirmative action measures were a response to outside pressure. The best answer is probably to make sure the board – which any citizen can contact – hires high quality administrators and then listens to them. But, I sure do not have a cure-all and admit that public criticism will always be an important source of feedback. But, be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

    Well Fred, I’d better go put some clothes on. I have to go teach!