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January 20, 2006

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To disclose or not to disclose. That’s the question some institutions have faced in recent years regarding students' evaluations of professors.

A proposal at Northwestern University to make all evaluations available may go before the Faculty Senate soon, and it is attracting both praise and criticism. The debate comes amid the growing popularity of professorial reviews on Web sites that have no ties to universities -- and, critics charge, no quality control.

Nearly 30 years ago, Northwestern faculty members first agreed to have evaluations, provided that professors could keep them under lock and key if they so chose. But times have changed.

“[Evaluations] have become commonplace on campus,” said Stephen Fisher, associate provost for undergraduate education at Northwestern. “Students look to them, and so do members of the administration and faculty members.”

Fisher estimated that only about 5 percent of professors currently ask that their evaluations not be posted online.

Northwestern’s General Faculty Committee will vote on February 1 to decide whether the proposal to require that evaluations be available should go before the Faculty Senate later this year, at which point every faculty member would vote. Fisher said that students have been pushing for the change for some time, and it was even part of a student government campaign last year. So far, faculty members have been weighing the pros and cons of exposing their grades.

Fisher said that there has been more concern over publishing comments, than over an average score compiled from evaluations. “One communications faculty member said there are studies that say negative comments linger longer than positive comments, and that a few bad comments could color the perception of that teacher disproportionately,” Fisher said. “If it’s numerical, [a small number of scores] would be dissipated.”

In the interest of generating better data, Northwestern last year required all students who want to view evaluations of professors who do not ask to have them withheld to first fill them out for courses they have completed. Fisher said evaluation completion about doubled, to nearly 80 percent.

Thomas Bauman, professor of musicology and chair of the General Faculty Committee, said that faculty members are discussing whether there should be exceptions to any mandate, such as for adjuncts, or first-time teachers “who might feel they need a buffer of some kind."

Faculty reactions to public evaluations, beyond Northwestern, are as varied as the critiques they themselves get. The most public of all evaluation systems is RateMyProfessors.com, which has over 700,000 professors, and which allows anyone with an e-mail address to post to their heart’s content. As students have become more demanding consumers of their education, various methods of assessing professors without meeting them have been born -- some by students, and others by colleges.

Some of the more controversial versions of course guides are founded and maintained by students. A group of students at Williams College started Factrak several years ago. Factrak is run by students, and does not draw data from Williams’ official evaluations. Rather, students can post at their leisure with both their individual scores and comments, and only students can see the evaluations. “Originally, there were accusations that only extreme views were posted,” said Evan Miller, a Williams student who helped develop  Factrak. In response to the criticism, Factrak instituted a system where students can “agree” with comments, “so you can see if a view is extreme if nobody agrees, or if a professor is universally hated.” All of the Williams students interviewed said they prefer the in-house system to RateMyProfessora.com, primarily because it verifies that users are students. Factrak has made some faculty blood boil, however.

Alan White, a philosophy professor at Williams College, railed against Factrak in an article he wrote in The Williams Record. In an interview, White said that Factrak “can’t possibly work well. There are either too few entries, or so many that nobody has time to look through them. Either way, you don’t get a representative sample.” White added that systems that give average scores generally do nothing to establish statistical significance, so the numbers should not pass peer review. “It’s bad information that looks good,” he said. “That’s the worst kind of information.” White said he would prefer a system that gives students contact information for other students who have taken a particular professor. “Then I could talk to someone I knew and trusted, a kindred spirit ... or at least I could get a feel for the person,” he said.

Even some of the student run evaluation databases don’t verify that commentators are students. CULPA,  the Columbia [University] Underground Listing of Professor Ability, was actually founded before RateMyProfessors.com, and apparently preceded it with the idea of not making sure only students can post.

Washington University in St. Louis drives the Rolls Royce of public evaluation systems. Beginning six years ago, Henry Biggs, director of undergraduate research, led a push to create a more informative evaluation process. “The questions being asked were not getting the required information,” Biggs said. “We had no way to know if a professor was struggling.” A faculty member from the anthropology department helped develop evaluation templates for different types of classes (lectures, seminars, labs, etc.), and then an online system was tested for over a year.

Professors have to petition if they want to withhold the evaluations from students, who can log in and see them. The student comments are not there, but a wealth of numerical data, including the number of respondents out of the total from a particular section, and the scores relative to the department and to all other professors in the system. Biggs said that about three-quarters of students fill out the evaluations, which went fully online in fall 2004. Professor can also tailor several questions specifically to their course. “The can ask about a particular text,” Biggs said. He said that he was recently interviewed by a student asking why the Wash U. system is any better than RateMyProfessors.com. “I’ve had several students say they go there to choose a course, which is disastrous,” Biggs said. “We worked on ours for four or five years [before going public]. We didn’t just throw up a site that could do evaluations.”

When evaluations are credible and informative, some of RateMyProfessors.com’s harshest critics are all for them. “The Professor,” an anonymous professor from a southern college who started the Rate Your Students blog as a comeback to RateMyProfessors.com, said in an e-mail that “One part of me, however, still wants to invoke the professorial defense: ‘I know what I'm doing; students don't -- yet.’” But added that “perhaps publicizing professors who weren't meeting student expectations would encourage professors to try and address their weaknesses.”

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Comments on For All to See

  • Posted by Hans Gesund on January 20, 2006 at 7:56am EST
  • Unfortunately, too many student evaluations depend on the type of class. Large, required, sections generally score lower than small elective sections. Graduate students tend to give higher scores than undergraduates. And then there are questions: How seriously should one take anonymous evaluations and criticisms anyway? Should a scurrilous anonymous comment be published? It hardly seems fair.

  • Re: "For All to See"
  • Posted by Christopher Mobley , Assistant Professor of Political Science at Chattanooga State Technical Community College on January 20, 2006 at 8:39am EST
  • Let's be totally fair. Allow us to post their grades and have comments about them publicly! Other than grades, which are protected under privacy concerns, we never get to say what we think about them, both good and bad. Can you imagine the outcry if prospective employers would have access to some of our comments about them?

  • student evaluations
  • Posted by Aitatxua , Dr. on January 20, 2006 at 9:24am EST
  • All adjuncts (who depend on popularity for contract renewal) know that we can buy favorable student evaluations with high grades. That is because many students do not have the maturity to distinguish between how the professor makes them feel about themselves (admittedly important), and the other qualities of the professor's teaching. Many students' reflex is to blame their struggle on the professor. Naturally, having the wit of a standup comedian, looks of a t.v. hunk/babe, sensitive sympathy of a family physician, and easy flattery of a Don Juan all serve as currency in buying evaluations.

    Here's my solution: delay evaluations for at least a couple years, or until after graduation, when the student has some distance from the panic of the moment. How many times have we been told, from people who have put some life between themselves and their college years, about the son-of-a-gun professor they hated at the time, but who taught them, they see in hindsight, more than any other.

    This is a conversation we should be having with our students.

  • Posted by jcl , grad student on January 20, 2006 at 12:51pm EST
  • Maybe to make things fair, there could be something called a "transcript" where professors give ratings of students, and employers or graduate schools could ask for this transcript when making hiring and admissions decisions.

    I used to work for the campus course evaluation guide when I was an undergrad, and the comment summaries we wrote were fairer and more informative than either numerical ratings, which are usually reported as only a mean with no standard deviation, or unmoderated comment sites like RateMyProfessors.com. Unfortunately, the organization ran out of funding, and that seems to be the situation at a lot of places.

  • Fair's fair
  • Posted by Eager to Please on January 20, 2006 at 1:14pm EST
  • I'll be happy to share my course evaluations and snarky comments from students, provided that the grade of that student is also displayed next to their evaluation, and I'm given an opportunity to add my written comments (and perhaps a "hotness" rating) to their transcripts. Future employers and graduate programs, after all, deserve all the information they can get before making their decisions. A degree and GPA just don't tell you enough about what students are "really" like...

  • Posted by tina on January 20, 2006 at 1:35pm EST
  • Faculty evaluations are extremely problematic as measures of quality teaching for the reasons mentioned by other commentators above. Student's experiences with an instructor/professor are valuable as a component of evaluation, but should not be the standalone measure of teaching. A commentator, Aitatxua, mentioned a very important point--in time, a student's evaluation can change after they leave and have time to reflect on what they actually learned.
    Speaking from experience, I recently contacted a grad professor I disliked and argued w/ incessantly to share my chagrin in realizing how much I learned from him. I did not rate him very high overall, something I wish I could change. And not all students will go the extra mile to let their department head know of their change of heart. Should that professor be ranked in some summative fashion because he had the courage of his convictions, encouraged debate and challenged people's views in a way he/she is supposed to and then have that evaluation used in a more formative fashion?
    In professional life I have been involved w/ faculty evaluations and the dissonance between student opinion of good teaching and a more informed peer evaluation of the material, difficulty, rigor, etc.
    I do not think Northwestern should be putting these evaluations online, a position I would have disagreed with as an undergraduate. Students should not be expected to understand the context of statistically significant differences, and of the science of measuring opinion. But colleges MUST be more rigorous in conducting not just faculty evaluation, but good training and counseling of their faculty. Evaluating and providing professional development of faculty members is regarded as a taboo by many, and this must head the way of punchcard registration; market forces may speed this change. A PhD or MA degree does not make a good teacher. But neither should being a great comedian, or easy going, or affable be the core reason for a positive ranking. Allowing these evaluations to take public prominance will definitely result in dumbing down the curriculum as faculty members "grades" depend on their likability, not the quality of the curriculum and its execution.

  • faculty evaluations
  • Posted by Howard Whitlock , Prof on January 20, 2006 at 2:18pm EST
  • I've taught college level chemistry (organic & general) for many years and have observed that...
    1. Many (not all) hate the course, hate the instructor and just wish the whole thing would go away. The fact is that univ-level science courses need work and many students resent having to make the effort.
    2. I don't really mind the vile comments made about me on ratemyprofessor, but the personal dislike ("he thinks he's so smart" etc) shown reflects a surprising degree of immaturity.
    3. The sense of entitlement ("It's not fair to give me a C.") tends to go away in soph organic but is extremely common if freshman courses.
    4. Your ratings go down as you get older.
    5. Students DO like easy courses, and this is really apparent in their evaluations.

    But remember. They're paying good money and it is our responsibility to teach them the best course we can. And they DO come back years later and say thanks. So it's a funny world.

  • Posted by Retired Prof , A Perversion on January 20, 2006 at 2:18pm EST
  • Students are not consumers. Professors are not retailers, trying to sell something which can be evaluated like a TV show. But universities, trying to be "relevant", have assimilated education to retailing. It is this confusion of education with commerce that gives rise to the notion that students should evaluate the performance of their professors.
    Learning can occur only when there is trust in the teacher. This is true whether the learner is in kindergarten or in graduate school. Turning a relationship which MUST be based on trust and concern if learning is to occur into a relationship of consumer and seller perverts the learning process. It is a pity there are few or no university administrators who have an interest in figuring out what a proper educational relationship between student and professor involves.

  • rate the ratings and the raters
  • Posted by Taj Moore at AIMC Berkeley on January 20, 2006 at 2:47pm EST
  • Given that the informal systems of rating professors have asserted themselves, I like the idea of students being able rate whether they agree with a comment or not. The next level would be to show how reliable the source is, by showing the percentage of people that agree with their comments, or the percentage of comments that people agree with. This will provide a greater depth of meta data, allowing people to consider their source with more scrutiny, and the subject of the rating with more perspective.

    This is all, of course, IF one is to proceed with non-official rating systems.

  • Peas and Carrots
  • Posted by Andrew Purvis on January 20, 2006 at 2:47pm EST
  • Let's try to keep a few things straight here: faculty evaluations are not the same things as student grades. Trying to discuss one in the context of the other gets us nowhere; worse, it takes us to a place we should never visit.

    Also, online ratings (sites such as ratemyprofessors.com) are not even close to faculty evaluations posted on the web. The former may be written at any time and without regard for the course. The latter are written during a specific period in a term and about a specific course. Better still, a professor's evaluations can be viewed with a moving average for a specific course (how did so-and-so rate for the last three years teaching History 110 as opposed to his rating for the same course over his entire career?).

    The data (mostly numerical) compiled in faculty evaluations are compiled by in-house methods and computed prior to being placed online, not generated there at the caprice of those who sign in.

    Everyone from students to prospective employers already has access to faculty evaluation data in many schools, so placing the information online does nothing except increase the ease with which interested parties may view it.

    I am an adjunct, but I do not fear my evaluations. No, I do not hand out inflated grades. No, I don't have the "wit of a standup comedian, looks of a t.v. hunk/babe, sensitive sympathy of a family physician, [or the] easy flattery of a Don Juan" to bolster my student's opinions of me. Don't believe me? Ask my students. After that, though, ask them if they learned anything in my class. I'll even let you ask the ones who didn't pass.

  • Class Wars
  • Posted by Marya on January 20, 2006 at 5:03pm EST
  • There is also the issue of adjuncts often being assigned to teach only mandated, lower-level intro courses, which may be disliked by some students, vs. full-time profs teaching upper-level courses in majors or minors, which are usually filled by students who are already committed to the particular discipline. Not surprisingly, adjuncts have a rougher time getting overall good evals than the fulltimers.

  • Posted by jcl , grad student on January 20, 2006 at 5:50pm EST
  • I should probably mention that as the grad student instructor of an unsparingly graded, wildly unpopular required engineering course, I've certainly received evaluations I don't like. I've even received a few that I don't think a male instructor would have. But I still don't think that disregarding all student comments would return us to a golden age where students respected their professors and cared only about learning for its own sake.

  • Show the connection
  • Posted by Andrew Purvis on January 20, 2006 at 7:49pm EST
  • I suspect that adjuncts do get lower eval scores than full-timers. It is also true that we teach almost exclusively required courses. I do not see the essential connection between the two, though I can see how one might suspect a link.

    Is it possible that tenured faculty—usually those with the experience advantage over adjuncts—get better evaluations in part because they are better at the job?

    I understand that students can have subjective responses, but when you sample populations of dozens, and later when you combine responses from many such populations, the extremes are largely negated.

    Remember, we are talking about forms passed out to classrooms, collected by the administration, compiled, and boiled down to sets of statistics. This is not some random online portal used by the few students who both know about it and have strong feelings.

  • Size of letters
  • Posted by Patrick Groff , Professor of Education Emeritus at San Diego State University on January 20, 2006 at 10:34pm EST
  • The very small size of the letters in your online comments make them almost impossible to read. Why do you continue this practice? Please stop it.

  • well said
  • Posted by Aitatxua , Ph.D on January 21, 2006 at 11:19am EST
  • Thank you, all, for such an energetic, insightful conversation. I find it useful to bring my students into this discussion every semester, and they will benefit from the challenges posed in this forum. Perhaps Andrew Purvis' inability to see a connection between grades and evals makes the one exception, and my students will be the first to disagree with him. I hear much grumbling about grade inflation, but if we wish to arrest it, we must address its relation to evaluations.

    Eager-to-Please know a foul when he sees one, but his solution would resemble divorce proceedings (hey, we're trying to keep the marriage together here!). Assistant-Prof-in-a-Cold-Place is right on in her observation of how evals are a weapon for those in power, and astute in her definition of "fit." However, she's lagging a couple decades in her characterizing of those who don't fit, for in the humanities, the white male is now the piece without a puzzle.

    My final question to Assistant-Prof-in-a-Cold-Place concerns her mention that evals sprung up in the sixties to make institutions more accountable to students. Is it possible that we use evals more cynically than that, to give students the illusion of influence and so mitigate their activism (an activism no less imperative now than in the sixties)?

  • Grade Inflation
  • Posted by Andrew Purvis on January 22, 2006 at 7:58am EST
  • I am not denying that there is grade inflation out there. I am not denying that there are evaluations. I am asking for someone to provide something more than a statement that both exist as evidence that there is a connection between the two.

    Has anyone got a study supporting this idea that educators inflate grades for the purpose of garnering better evaluations?

    By the way, the solution to grade inflation is simple: if you inflate grades, stop. No exceptions.

  • Student ratings research
  • Posted by Ethelynda Harding on January 22, 2006 at 9:26am EST
  • Good reviews of research on student evaluation of instruction are available online at http://www.idea.ksu.edu/resources/index.html. The reviews are useful in identifying factors that do and do not affect ratings as well as in considering how to use the information they provide.

  • Be advised.......
  • Posted by Chuck on January 23, 2006 at 9:05pm EST
  • The student evaluations have become a bad joke and a semi-fraud.

    I would ignore them completely UNLESS the grade point average of each student was stated right next to their evaluation.

    That would provide some very interesting associations and correlations.

  • Posted by Carson Turner on May 8, 2006 at 11:40am EDT
  • Maybe some of this concern would be redirected if faculty would understand that contrary to what many hold to be true, education is a commodity that is sold in an open market and the students (and their parents to some degree) are in fact consumers.

    Consumers evaluate their purchases and rely on the evaluations of others to make purchasing decisions. Smart retailers who wish to survive the market look to those evaluations to improve products or delivery.

    This new breed of education consumer isn't going to stand for a bad product poorly presented. They're going to shop for the best product they can get for their money -- and if you rip them off, they're going to tell people.

    It's not 1960 anymore.

  • The "Rolls Royce" of Evals? Maybe a RR lemon!
  • Posted by Wash. U. Student , Student at Washington University in St. Louis on August 15, 2006 at 4:30pm EDT
  • I am a student at Washington University in St. Louis, and I have to say that the articles description of Wash U's evals as the "Rolls Royce" could not be further from being true.

    As a generalization, most students choose classes for one or two of the following three reasons: 1)The teacher is good 2)It won't be difficult to get a good grade 3)The course is required. A course review will not matter if a course is required, thus the only thing that students really care about on a review is how good the teacher is and how easy it is to get a good grade--that's it. Reviews about whether "class time was used well" only distract the prospective student from what they care about.

    But here are the main reasons why the Wash U evals are more like a Rolls Royce "lemon":

    The Wash U questions are answered on a 1-7 scale, but many of the questions are extremely vague. "How would you describe the content of the course?" 1-7. What does a 7 mean? What does a one mean? Is the question talking about the subject matter of the course, what happens during a typical class, the books the class is reading, all of those, none of those? Such vague questions with vague responses do nothing to help students choose their classes. Another question that bothers me most is "How would you describe the workload in this course?" Answers range from 1-7. Is 7 great because it's easy? Is 1 great because it's easy? Is 7 really hard? Is 1 really hard? What the heck does it mean? If the question were "How would you describe the overall ease of this course with 1 being the easiest class you have ever taken and 7 being the hardest class you have ever taken" students would get much more out of it (duh).

    Here's the biggest reason why the Rolls Royce status could not be more incorrect: obviously if I were to simply leave a 1-7 rating on Wash U's evals on this comment page (for instance, if I simply put "Wash. U. Evals system: 1), the reader would be terribly confused. It wouldn't really help them out at all. Instead, by writing detailed comments, you--the reader--are able to understand why I rate the system a 1, and what I mean when I give it a 1. On WU's eval system, you can make comments but they aren't available to the students to see. WHAT?! So the teachers can improve, but we can't see what they're bad at?! WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE EVALS???

    Wash. U. students will continue to go to ratemyprofessors.com over its own eval system--rmps.com is simple, its easy to view and interpret the data, and best of all one can read specific comments from students who have actually taken the class.

    Wash. U. loves good press. Every time a student goes to see course evaluations, the first thing they see is a link to this article with the caption "Washington University in St. Louis drives the Rolls Royce of public evaluation systems." Riggggght.

  • The truth about Wash U's evals
  • Posted by Another Wash U Student on August 20, 2006 at 8:15pm EDT
  • The poster above claims that WU's questions on a 1 to 7 scale do not indicate what a 7 or a 1 means for each particular question, but this is simply not true.

  • Posted by washu student #3 on August 29, 2006 at 2:50pm EDT
  • many students here complete the survey just because they don't want professors to think negatively of them, because the professors can see who have and who have not completed the class surveys. as a result, many students would fill in the survey randomly, because that way it takes the least amount of time. the survey is a good system if followed through accordingly. well, in that case, we'd be living in utopia in no time.

  • Posted by washu student number three on August 29, 2006 at 2:50pm EDT
  • many students here complete the survey just because they don't want professors to think negatively of them, because the professors can see who have and who have not completed the class surveys. as a result, many students would fill in the survey randomly, because that way it takes the least amount of time. the survey is a good system if followed through accordingly. well, in that case, we'd be living in utopia in no time.