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Feb. 16, 2006
When members of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science came together to talk about the federal budget Wednesday, a deep secret regarding the development of the next generation of scientists emerged:
Would-be scientists like having money and attractive people to date.
After some haggling over the budget — whether the 2007 fiscal year budget request for research is up or down 1 percent depends on whether earmarks are subtracted from the 2006 fiscal year budget — Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican, told his colleagues how to recruit more scientists. “Pay them more money!” he said. “A kid has to choose between driving in a jalopy and having a Ph.D. in physics and having a big house and a law degree and a beautiful girlfriend.” He also lamented the fact that gym teachers are often paid as much as science teachers and “basket weaving” instructors.
Rep. Roscoe G. Bartlett, a Maryland Republican, added that “China graduates more English-speaking engineers than we do.... A country gets what it values.” In Japan, for instance, thousands of adoring fans line up to touch Stephen Hawking’s wheelchair when he visits, whereas in America, Representative Bartlett said, “bright girls play dumb and guys can’t get dates” if they are viewed as “dweebs.” Bartlett said that this problem is beyond money, and will only be remedied when “we as a culture appreciate [science] as an endeavor.” Representative Bartlett said he tries to counsel students away from “dangerous pursuits” like political science and law.
Rep. Vernon J. Ehlers, a Michigan Republican, noted that “pretty girls don’t date nerds.” He said that, once upon a time, he himself knew the pain of going dateless because he was studious. “But I found out I was just obnoxious,” he added. “This idea that young women can’t do science, we’re the only country that has that idea.”
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a Texas Democrat, managed to move the discussion beyond dating. She said that people like Lawrence H. Summers, Harvard University’s president, aren’t helping encourage women to go into science.
Rep. Daniel Lipinski, an Illinois Republican who has a master’s degree in engineering, a Ph.D. in political science, and was a professor at the Universities of Tennessee and Notred Dame, said that “it was my education before I got to college” that got him excited about engineering.
Despite such praise for pre-college programs, the National Science Foundation Math and Science Partnership, which matches colleges with schools, would be cut by 27 percent in the budget request, and no new partnerships will be formed.
Arden L. Bement, director of NSF, said at the hearing that the lesson from the partnerships — that community and higher education involvement is important in lower education — “has been learned,” and that it should now become a core part of a national push, but does not need specific funding. Rep. Sherwood Boehlert Boehlert, a New York Republican and chair of the committee, admonished the press for not helping to foster a culture of scientists. He referenced the scarce headlines about the National Science Medal, which was awarded on Monday.
As far as Representative Rohrabacher is concerned, the government should take some money for scientists and science teachers from the $1.7 billion requested for global warming research. He respectfully entered into the record a list of “thousands of scientists skeptical of [human induced] global warming.”
Representative Boehlert, on the other hand, hopes the money comes from somewhere else. “Even the president knows [global warming] is for real, and man has contributed to it,” he said.
David A. Sampson, deputy secretary of commerce, said that the administration is doing “all it can” to address climate change. Representative Bart Gordon, a Tennessee Democrat, got a healthy smile out of that one. “I’m sure it will be news to the world that this administration is doing ‘all it can’ on climate change,” he said.
Miller and Rep. David Wu, an Oregon Democrat, questioned whether the Bush administration is censoring research. Miller pointed to the recent revelation that James Hanson, a NASA scientist was told by a 24-year-old “rougue press officer,” according to Boehlert, to hush up about global warming. In Wednesday’s Washington Post, Anne Applebaum writes about five California Institute of Technology scientists who published an article about potential negative environmental effects of leaks in hydrogen fuel cells. A press conference to announce the paper was cancelled by the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and, according to the column, none of the scientists ever got another government grant to study the subject. John H. Marburger III, President Bush’s science adviser and director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, said the issue is “a mountain out of a mole hill,” and that the conference was simply held up so the Department of Energy could look at the study.
In typical committee fashion, one member called the hearing “the most important of the year,” and then left, and the hearing ended shortly after Jackson Lee and Boehlert spent five minutes arguing about whether Jackson Lee had used her entire five minutes to talk.
Everybody agreed on one thing. Said Miller, “I concede that the Democratic Party is also plagued by 24-year-olds who are remarkably self important.” But can they get a date?
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Talk about your stereotypes!! As I look about me there seem to be more WOMEN moving forward in higher education. And what about those of us who are finally getting our terminal degrees...hopefully before we are terminal ourselves???
DM, Ed.D —soon to be, at 6:55 am EST on February 16, 2006
“Would-be scientists like having money and attractive people to date”
of course,
[fill in the blank] like having money and attractive people to date, too.
Alan Lott, Professor, at 10:25 am EST on February 16, 2006
You want more scientist? Pay them more some say. Rent them pretty date, maybe more productive? House like to hear themself talk like Kournikova like to see her picture in fashion magazines! US comment that China has censorship on internet and there is more transparency in current WTA tennis uniforms than in your government. Hydrogen power maybe not perfect...oh, but your president talk about it in speech, there can be no fallacy—reminds me of Russia of old.
You want more scientist in laboratories? Why not show them respect? Sharapova has more notoriety than Watson or Crick and you complain about “dates?” Kid has to choose between “jalopy” and “big house and girlfriend?” What is jalopy? Is “jalopy” a society that shows television with “Beauty and Geek” and say Geek are loser? Is “jalopy” a House of Representatives that talk about girls instead of real issues like nuclear weapons, or the fact that US government is afraid to let own graduate scientists back in country to work after graduation because they are not of same color skin? I hear quotation often —this time I not pay for its use—: “I had a dream...that one day we would not be judged by the COLOR OF OUR SKIN but by the CONTENT OF OUR CHARACTER.” Until US have respect for something other than attractive Russian tennis players, covering up everything it does, and a president who spends more time on vacation than caring about his country, you are down a set and it is 5-0 in the second, forty-love, not your serve.
Gregoriy Morgunov, Technical Czar at China, We Got Next, at 10:25 am EST on February 16, 2006
Greg, I am genuinely interested in what you have to say, but it was difficult to follow your argument because of a shortage of prepositions and conjunctions in your majestic country.
What sort of respect do you wish scientists to have ? And how would you show them that respect.
As to your argument that people should be judged on the content of their character, I should point out that since one cannot spend character, it usually is not something to judge someone with. Usually people judge others based on a series of stereotypes about their race, professor, sex, and religion. It is very difficult for me to make snap judgments about things, like character, that are easy to fake.
Larry, at 11:35 am EST on February 16, 2006
First, it is a bit of a stereotype that brainy kids are “nerds.” Some are; many are not. At age 58, I’m still a nerd, but that’s my own problem. Maybe some day I can sign up for charm school. As far as public policy is concerned, I ask only this: Judge me according to reasonable indications of what I might be able to accomplish. For college admissions, that means things like grades, test scores and previous accomplishments such as math prizes and so on. For faculty jobs, that means dissertations, publications, etc. None of that has anything to do with race, ethnicity or gender. Yet, if we look at various initiatives of our prestige universities to encourage the young to pursue careers in science, math or engineering, almost all of them have a race or gender angle. White males are almost always on the losing side of those initiatives. When we look at K-12 education, what is the one big issue that keeps coming up and that is now addressed by Federal law? “Gaps.” So huge efforts are spent on the slower types andmoderately bright white males are left to fend for themselves.
I think American higher education needs to admit that some groups will produce more talented individuals in various fields than other groups.Group differences are real. End of story.
larry kostecke, right-wing blogger, at 11:55 am EST on February 16, 2006
Dana Rohrabacher sets his cause with proclamations like this one:
“A kid has to choose between driving in a jalopy and having a Ph.D. in physicsand having a big house and a law degree and a beautiful girlfriend.”
First, he implies that all physics PhDs are male. Second, he implies that girlfriends are essentially to be bought. Third—and most damaging of all—he implies that women’s primary value is in their looks.
Needless to say, none of these suggestions is likely to draw female students to the sciences. Most college students are female, not male. If Rohrabacher wants to recruit students to the sciences, he shouldn’t alienate or ignore that female majority.
P, at 12:30 pm EST on February 16, 2006
P, While I have never had an ugly girlfriend I can attest that some of my colleagues (also with law degrees) have had ugly girlfriends. While their profession allows them to trade them in for younger models, they often do not. (Most lawyers, that I know, opt to marry other lawyers, because they feel that everyone else is beneath them, and they would not get along with the kind of person that thinks “Survivor” is a neat TV show.) Some people with law degrees have absolutely abysmal taste in architecture. A friend of mine has this disgusting fountain that looks like some sort of large gold-encrusted mosquito on his front long. Disgusting! This proves that the “lawyers have pretty homes” hypothesis is incorrect. On the good side, many PhD candidates have seen the light, quit, and become patent agents or gone to law school. Maybe the solution would be to force lawyers to date ugly women like, apparently, all the scientists do. I will not, however, live in an ugly home.
Larry, at 1:40 pm EST on February 16, 2006
Character...I did not mean a literal “content of character” analysis of each individual scientist. What I refer to is the United States’ present policies that hinder the ability of non-US graduate student in science to live and work in US after they have completed their education. There is no shortage of scientists, just paranoia...2006? perhaps 1984.
Respect...Quick quiz: 1. Name one present NBA star. 2. Name your favorite Law & Order series. 3. Name the leading company working on Nickel Metal Hydride fuel cells.
I even give you hint—the company for question three is located in Troy, Michigan.
How many people you know, in United States would even recognize what “Nickel Metal Hydride fuel cell” means?
How many journalists, who write all the news most people get, know statistics? Really know statistics? How many journalists know what confidence interval really mean? Respect is having your President not only speak of expanding funding for science in your country, but actually voting on the bill that bring it into effect.
And person who comment on sexist comments in House—how many people in House of Representatives are women? As Larry says, money = attractive, scientist = not much money, transitive property says: scientist = not attractive. Perhaps scientists, like elementary school teachers should be paid more? But that would be progress. United States would rather get mad at Google and Yahoo for their diplomacy, or threaten Iran because of US inaction, or talk about anything other than Iraq.
Gregoriy, Technical Czar at China, We Got Next, at 3:40 pm EST on February 16, 2006
Greg, I don’t watch sports or TV, so I am at a loss to name a sports hero. A friend of mine was a consultant to a Law and Order series, but to be honest, I forgot which one. It probably had a name like “Presumption of Culpability.” Finally, Panasonic manufacturers Nickel Metal Hydride Batteries. Oh wait, you want one in Flint, Michigan. I am too tired to answer that. I don’t have much respect for journalists in general, but they are pretty good at printing our press releases as news, so it doesn’t bother me too much.
Maybe women don’t want to be in the House of Representatives. Maybe they don’t hold popular views. Maybe they are bad managers. I don’t know. (Personally, I think that women are capable of serving in public office if they would lose some weight.
Larry, at 8:45 pm EST on February 16, 2006
Some members of Congress need to do their homework and stop fantasizing about those cheerleaders who sneered at their slide rules and pocket-protecter pen holders — and stop flagellating themselves with an orientalized mirror image of American flaws. Hawking may get a bit of adulation for being famous, but Japan can compete favorably with the US in the categories of shallow media culture and mindless lookism. The threatening hordes of English-speaking engineers reflect China’s rising industrial power, the role of English as the scientific world’s lingua franca, and the role of education as the path to prestige, power, and other rewards. (One might inquire into the status of programs for science students studying other languages...) The playing fields in these societies may not be as level in gender terms or to outsiders as imagined...
Money buys prestige in America. If science is a priority, pay science grads what the football coach makes at the state university and send them to the high schools. Then priorities would change.
Gustav in Japan
Gustav, at 8:45 pm EST on February 16, 2006
Wow, Larry, with you every comment is more insightful than the next.
Anyway, it’s not like the median salary for biological scientists is too terrible, at $69K, vs. $94K for lawyers, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Also bear in mind that Ph.D. graduates start out with a significant advantage in being less likely to be six figures in debt when they leave school. So it’s not like fear of driving a jalopy (and, uh, does anyone really drive those outside of Hardy Boys novels?) can be the only thing keeping men and women out of grad school. It does seem a shame to be taking aim at the programs which attempt early intervention to excite kids about math and science.
Adrian Seath, at 4:25 am EST on February 17, 2006
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fyi: Dr. Ehlers
From —
http://www.house.gov/ehlers/meet.html
Ehlers ” .. received his undergraduate degree in physics and his Ph.D. in nuclear physics from the University of California at Berkeley in 1960. After six years teaching and research at Berkeley, he moved to Calvin College in 1966 where he taught physics for 16 years and later served as chairman of the Physics Department. During his tenure at Calvin, Ehlers also served as a volunteer science advisor to then-Congressman Gerald R. Ford. ..”
BTW: yes, there are a lot of self-important 24-year-olds from both political parties, viz. “Facebook.” Unfortunately, someone just hasn’t told them they are wrong, to their face, in private.
R.A. Shaw, at 6:20 am EST on February 16, 2006