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June 16, 2006

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Mac users: Some help is here, and more is on the way.

In recent years, as federal agencies have shifted the grant application process online, Mac users have complained about being treated as second class citizens. This year, as the National Institutes of Health shifted its process to the Grants.gov online submission system, glitches have further frustrated Mac-wielding scientists.

Grants.gov is an outgrowth of the President’s Management Agenda that seeks to have all federal grants exclusively online. In the 2005 fiscal year, 20 of 26 granting agencies had at least one-quarter of their grants available through Grants.gov. The goal for this year is to have agencies putting three-quarters of their grants online, and then all of them by the 2007 fiscal year.

Many academic scientists, however, said that the government didn’t know its audience when it began with a Windows-only system -- and changes have not gone as well as many have hoped. While Mac users may be in a minority nationally, there are parts of academe where there numbers are far from small.

In an e-mail from his hotel in Washington, where he was reviewing grants for NIH, Richard J. Bookman, executive dean of research and research training at the University of Miami’s medical school, said that, of the 25 scientists in the hotel with him, there were 13 Macs, and 12 Windows laptops.

Regarding the decision to select a Windows-only system to carry out the President’s Management Agenda, Bookman said that “it would seem as though some government decision maker didn't take enough time to understand the composition of the user community.”

Some government decision makers have, at least, been listening to the complaints.

In December, Grants.gov, which is run through the Department of Health and Human Services, came up with an interim solution. Mac users can download software from Grants.gov that allows them to fill out online applications through a server – called a “Citrix server” – housed at NIH.

When the Citrix solution debuted in December, though, it only took about a dozen simultaneous users to cause a traffic jam, and, according to David Schroeder, senior systems engineer at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, the solution wasn’t user friendly. “They tried to give instructions the best they could,” Schroeder said, “but I think most users would not have had much hope.”

Schroeder and others at Wisconsin streamlined the Citrix system , and Grants.gov is now using the package Wisconsin developed so that users can just click on an icon to download software and follow relatively simple instructions.

Still, researchers aren’t thrilled with the current system.

Gregory Cook, associate professor of chemistry and molecular biology at North Dakota State University, said that “you’re basically just running a PC remotely,” which isn’t terribly comfortable for long-time Mac users who never used Windows for Mac. Cook added that, when using the Citrix server, the window size is small, and text can’t be copied from a Mac application into the application forms.

John Etcheverry, Grants.gov program director, said that the initial traffic problems have been solved, and that the compatibility problem should be entirely fixed soon. Etcheverry said that Grants.gov is working with IBM to have a Mac friendly system in place by November.

Currently, according to the Office of Management and Budget, which chose Grants.gov to implement the President’s Management Agenda, about 65 percent of all federal grants can be applied for through Grants.gov. But some agencies, including NIH, have continued to offer applications through their own sites, or in paper, at least until the compatibility issues are solved once and for all.

Cook said that the National Science Foundation has had a Web-based online application system – Fastlane – that has been “working beautifully for the last five years,” he said. NSF will have to switch to Grants.gov, though, as part of the management agenda.

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  • One size fits all
  • Posted by math prof on June 16, 2006 at 7:10am EDT
  • Yes, FastLane works fine (for me, and I run unix, and for colleagues of mine who run Windows; I don't know about Macs).

    Our research office reports that Grants.gov is buggy in general.

    Alas, NSF will indeed have to switch from FastLane to Grants.gov next year.

  • Posted by GeoWitt , Assistant Professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine on June 16, 2006 at 7:55am EDT
  • My impression is the Grants.gov is unnecessarily complicated. I partipated in a pilot program of HealthProposal.net to submit and was able to use my Mac, particularly as PDFs were the lingua franca of the system. Evidently you can still use a Mac with HealthProposal, but now you have to pay. But I think we should keep the pressure on for a free Mac solution. Anything that depends on Windows-specific programming will always stay buggy.

  • Macs in Bio
  • Posted by ProfF , Professor, Molecular Biology on June 16, 2006 at 2:40pm EDT
  • It takes the government to have a solution that works well for all ( like Fastlane) and then break it.

    At the last study section panel I attended, Macs outnumbered PCs 4:1.

    In my department, almost everyone uses a Mac.

    The Grants.gov solution is kludgy, unnecessarily complicated, and already driving our Grants office crazy, and the primary funding mechanism (R01) hasn't even transitioned onto it. The Citrex solution works poorly, so you have a bad system teetering on top of a bad system.

    It's simply irrational that the developers did not pay attention to the community, or the scale of grants that go into NIH. It doesn't work well from their side either; I've heard that NIH staffers are dreading the transition.

  • Macs work fine...
  • Posted by NSF Panelist on June 18, 2006 at 5:40am EDT
  • we have no problem w/ macs on my particular NSF panel. last review session I was at consisted of 4-5 macs, a few unix folks, and the rest used the agency-supplied PCs. we spent more than a few moments lamenting the upcomig switch to grants.gov. no one there who had accessed it had anything to say but bad things... i feel like i'm turning into an old fart, but damn this change!

  • Grants.gov and Macs
  • Posted by Jane Madden at Medical College of Wisconsin on September 7, 2006 at 6:35am EDT
  • I have been trying for 2 weeks to get the forms filled out for an NIH R21 grant using the Citrix client for Mac. I was deluded into thinking that I had it mastered doing it from home since the Veterans Administration firewalls don't let you connect to the Citrix server. Anyway, I have filled out the forms 5 different times, saved them, came back the next morning, they opened up OK. The next day however, none of the saved files could be opened. All came back with Error, cannot access viewer. The grants.gov help desk, and I use the term loosely, had the following responses. 1) Fill the forms out again; 2) ask NIH if you can submit a paper copy; 3) What do you expect me to do about it?