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June 21, 2006
While courts continue to hear arguments about affirmative action and Michigan voters prepare to decide the issue in their state, another round of intellectual debate is brewing in law reviews. Two articles — one just published and one forthcoming — challenge some conventional wisdom about affirmative action in higher education. Early buzz suggests that the pieces may attract considerable attention and challenge both critics and defenders of affirmative action.
One article — in the Michigan Journal of Race & Law — takes on the view that the primary beneficiaries of the end of affirmative action in college admissions would be Asian American applicants. The piece analyzes some of the same data that has been used to make that argument and says that what it really shows isn’t that affirmative action hurts Asian Americans but that “negative action” (in other words, discrimination) is placing a limit on the enrollments of Asian Americans.
The other article — not yet available online or published — will appear in the North Carolina Law Review. This article examines the attrition of black lawyers from top law firms and links their departures to their poor grades in law school, which in turn the author has previously attributed to the use of affirmative action to admit minority law students who, on average, can’t compete at the same level with their white colleagues. A previous article on affirmative action by the same author — Richard Sander — was one of the most discussed pieces of legal scholarship in 2004, drawing both strong praise and intense criticism. Advocates are already lining up to dissect the new Sander article, even before it has appeared.
‘Negative Action Versus Affirmative Action’
The article about Asian Americans comes amid many reports that they are the group that most benefits from the elimination of affirmative action. That supposition is important for several reasons, both practical and political. On a practical level, it counters the idea that colleges will be all white in a post-affirmative action era. Politically, these projections have been used repeatedly by critics of affirmative action, arguing that they are not “anti-minority” and to appeal for Asian support in referendums. One of the most dramatic studies on this issue came last year, when two Princeton University researchers analyzed data from elite colleges and projected that, without affirmative action, four of every five slots lost by black and Latino students would go to Asian Americans.
In “Negative Action Versus Affirmative Action: Asian Pacific Americans Are Still Caught in the Crossfire,” William C. Kidder takes issue with the Princeton study and similar findings by other scholars. It’s not that the demographic shift seen by the Princeton researchers wouldn’t take place in an admissions system that’s truly race-neutral, says Kidder, a senior policy analyst at the University of California at Davis. Rather, it’s the question of why those slots would go to Asian applicants.
The reason, he says, isn’t the elimination of affirmative action, but the widespread use of “negative action,” under which colleges appear to hold Asian American applicants to higher standards than they hold other applicants. Using the available data from the Princeton study — and not all of it is available — Kidder argues that the vast majority of the gains that Asian American applicants would see come from the elimination of “negative action,” not the opening up of slots currently used for affirmative action. Based on the data used by the Princeton study, Kidder argues that negative action is the equivalent of losing 50 points on the SAT.
The lead author of the Princeton study did not respond to messages about the findings.
Kidder wanted to check his critique of the Princeton findings about undergraduate applications so he also compared the impact of the end of affirmative action on Asian American enrollments at five public law schools where racial preferences were banned: three in the University of California, the University of Texas at Austin, and the University of Washington.
Tracking enrollment patterns from 1993, when all of the law schools had affirmative action, to 2004 — when they all did not — and then to 2005, when Texas restored it, his results were surprising. Without affirmative action, the share of Asian American enrollments dropped at two of the law schools and increased only marginally at three of the schools — even though people assume Asian American enrollments will go way up without affirmative action. Kidder notes that during the time period studied, the percentage of Asian Americans applying to law school increased 50 percent, so the pool should have created the opportunity for major increases.
What does this all mean? Kidder argues that all the references to growing Asian enrollments in a post-affirmative action world encourage a return to the “yellow peril” fear of people from Asia taking over. More broadly, he thinks Asian Americans in particular aren’t getting accurate information about the real cause of their perceived difficulties getting into competitive colleges. Their obstacle, he says, isn’t affirmative action, but the discrimination Asian Americans experience by being held to higher standards than anyone else. He says that the differential standards appear to be growing and are similar in some ways to the way some Ivy League institutions limited Jewish enrollments in the first half of the 20th century.
“Whether an individual Asian American supports affirmative action or not, this is an independent problem, not because of affirmative action,” Kidder says.
His interest in law schools comes from his own experience, since he is a graduate of Boalt Hall, the law school at the University of California at Berkeley, and was a student there in the second class after affirmative action was eliminated. He could see the more diverse third-year class and compare it to his own, which was almost entirely white, as is Kidder.
“There was an erosion in discourse and the quality of education I received,” he says, noting that in his experience, the affirmative action changes that sent black and Latino enrollments tanking did not lead to an influx of Asian American enrollments.
‘The Racial Paradox of the Corporate Law Firm’
The article on law firms might appear to be about affirmative action outside of the educational context, but it is very closely related to law school and other admissions policies. Sander, a professor of law at the University of California at Los Angeles, uses the article to explore why black lawyers appear to do well in getting hired by top law firms, but rarely rise to be partners. Sander’s earlier work on affirmative action argued that by admitting poorly qualified black applicants, law schools do them a disservice as they don’t do as well as they would have at less prestigious law schools. The new piece carries the idea forward and argues that law firms hire black students with grades that would never have been sufficient for a white student — and that this sets the black students up for failure.
While the article has not been publicly released, Stuart Taylor wrote about it Monday in National Journal and copies of the Sander article have since become a hot commodity. (Sander did not reply to messages Tuesday.)
Many defenders of affirmative action see the Sander work as likely to have a big impact — as his 2004 article had — and to be applied broadly to higher education.
“This is an extension of his basic argument of a mismatch between students and schools, which he’s applying to law firms,” says Christopher Bracey, an associate professor of law at Washington University in St. Louis and co-administrator of Blackprof.com, a group blog of black law professors. “This is now going to be applied to any sector of the economy, and people are going to say that this explains the reduction in tenure rates of African American professors,” Bracey says. He sees Sander’s arguments as appealing to those “who want to sincerely believe that we are in a meritocracy.”
What Sander does in his article is set out a series of statistics that suggest a sharp gap in the educational achievements of white and black law students who end up at top firms. (He also compares figures for other minority groups, but the gaps are most stark for black students). For example, of new lawyers working in law firms with offices of at least 100 lawyers, Sander finds that 21 percent of white students, and only 2 percent of black students, have grade point averages of 3.75 or higher. Only 14 percent of white students who work at such firms have GPA’s below 3.25, but 46 percent of black students do.
Not only do these data suggest race-based hiring standards, but the new black lawyers themselves believe that their race played a role in getting their jobs. Asked if various factors were important in obtaining their jobs, 56 percent of new black lawyers said that their race or ethnicity was important, compared to only 2 percent of white lawyers who felt that way.
Sander writes that law firms place a high value on appearing to be diverse, and so hire black lawyers with low grades, even though these lawyers are then far more likely to leave the firms and far less likely to rise than are other lawyers. Of various activities and legal duties Sander compares, there is one where new black lawyers are significantly more likely than white lawyers to be participants: 41 percent of black lawyers and 26 percent of white lawyers report that serving on a recruitment committee is something they do regularly.
Citing a range of other data, Sander writes that law firms have found that law school grades actually mean something — and predict success in legal work — so that if they are willing to apply that test to white applicants, they should apply it across the board. Sander writes that law firms would benefit by placing less emphasis on their numbers of black lawyers and more on the quality of those they hire. “If firms are less focused on achieving proportional representation among summer associates, and more focused on hiring a modest number of minority associates whom they are more committed to training and developing, they will both narrow the credentials gap and decrease the likelihood of attrition,” Sander writes.
He also urged top law firms to pressure law schools to improve black student performance — both by decreasing the use of affirmative action in admissions and by providing more academic support.
The same issue of the North Carolina Law Review with Sander’s article will contain a strongly worded rebuttal by James E. Coleman Jr. and Mitu Gulati, law professors at Duke University. In their piece, they argue that Sander overstates the role of grades and understates other factors in explaining the performance of new black lawyers. In particular, they note that law firms have cultures that may or may not be receptive to diversity (and they suggest that some are and others aren’t).
Coleman and Gulati also argue that Sander doesn’t have enough evidence about grades and subsequent legal career performance to make the claims that he does. They state, for example, that he should have tracked the group of black students who do perform well in law school to see whether their grades correlate with success in large law firms. Failing to look at such students, they write, raises major questions about his findings. They also cast doubt on his reiteration of his belief that black students will be better off earning better grades at less prestigious law schools. Where is the evidence, they write, that top law firms will recruit at such law schools? (There’s ample evidence that top law firms recruit at a very narrow group of law schools.)
Even as they question Sander’s article, however, Coleman and Gulati write that they fear its impact. Sander’s writings are “taken seriously” outside law schools, they write, and this work will damage young black professionals as it will reinforce stereotypes about their abilities, they write. “To the extent there is material in his article that will be understood as empirical confirmation of the lack of qualification of black students, the article imposes a high cost on those who need no additional obstacles placed before them,” they write.
Bracey, the Washington University professor, has his own criticism of Sander’s ideas — even while acknowledging that he believes that there is a grades gap between black and white law students. Bracey is in many ways part of the sample that Coleman and Gulati suggest Sander should have examined: He not only went to Harvard Law School, but excelled academically, serving as an editor on the Harvard Law Review and holding a clerkship before working for a few years in a large law firm. Sander’s work would classify him as someone who somehow “failed” — even though he’s a professor at a top law school, Bracey notes.
“Many minority lawyers move to different sorts of activities,” Bracey says. “That’s not necessarily a negative.”
In his courses, Bracey says, he feels confident that race does not influence grades: Tests are scored blindly.
But when you are a black law professor, he says, you get visits from plenty of students — minority students and women, who talk about the culture of institutions — about fellow students’ expectations, about what it means to study in libraries where portrait after portrait shows dead white men, about courses where you are expected to be the voice of black men or white women, or some other group. Even without overt racism, Bracey says that there are many “subtle factors” that have a real impact on the experience of minority law students.
In his courses, Bracey says, he goes out of his way to include plenty of case law about issues of race and gender and bias, but he also makes sure that he asks students — black and white, male and female — about all of these issues. He wants all students to see that these issues are important, and that no one group is responsible for these issues.
“I do these kinds of things, but not everyone does,” Bracey says. “I’m a blip on the otherwise steady radar that students experience.”
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“Advocates are already lining up to dissect the new Sander article, even before it has appeared.”
This is undoubtedly accurate, and it says everything about the modern academic mindset.
JBM, at 7:45 am EDT on June 21, 2006
I never understood how Asians could succeed without role models (seeing only portraits of dead white men in the library)
zmqdm, at 7:45 am EDT on June 21, 2006
The failure of any associate to make partner in a major law firm is more likely to be an inability to attract new business than a lack of intellect. If the Black or anyone else can bring in the client, they will make it to the top.
Educators have a tendency to put too much importance upon intellect and not enough analysis on the true motivator, money.
To improve the happiness factor, teach how to network — recognize that the Black continues to be at a serious disadvantage in that arena.
The quality of education afforded the Black, once admitted is as good as that afforded to everyone else. The ability to use it depends upon who they know and what they can do to be trusted to handle the work.
William Sumner Scott, J.D.
Judicial Equality Foundation, Inc.
William Sumner Scott, J.D., at 7:45 am EDT on June 21, 2006
” .. I never understood how Asians could succeed without role models (seeing only portraits of dead white men in the library)
1. Asian culture has very high emphasis on education, teaching, and learning. (Sometimes too high — like students committing suicide before/after exams).
2. Most Asian families strove/strive to assimilate in the U.S. Not separate languages and culture — USA-tinged English. (At this point, the “U.S. out of North America” crowd begins to complain. How unfortunate.)
3. With (1), most Asian parents keep close tabs on kids in school. Like Lake Wobegon, but more intense. The parents reserved the time for school — they didn’t make excuses.
Like the famous African-American surgeon who wrote about his working-class mother checking his middle school homework. He knew there were serious consequences for not doing his homework.
Art D., at 8:25 am EDT on June 21, 2006
If you role model is based on what a person does and accomplishes rather than how he or she looks, then maybe the Asian success makes sense.
mdg, at 9:20 am EDT on June 21, 2006
Mr. Scott, I don’t know how long you worked for a large firm, but bringing in new business is not the only way to make partner. A fair share of partners make that position by doing very good work, which is, in turn, marketed by others. It may be the black lawyers don’t know how to shine and actually promote themselves (which is an art in itself), and it may be that they are not interested. But, there is no requirement that an associate (just out of law school) come to a firm with a book of business.
On the other hand, turnover at large firms is very high for everyone. Some people go to other firms. Some go to smaller firms and the government. Many go in-house (if you doubt me, look at the bio of your school’s general counsel.) Some become professors. (Yes, folks, most law professors have “real-world” experience.) To say that black lawyer are quitting large firms is to state the obvious. But, white lawyers move into different activities, too. In fact, I am quite happy to see minority lawyers taking the skills they learned at large firms and putting them to some good use.
I never paid much attention to whose picture was in the library, but none of them looked like me. Nevertheless, I stayed in school, without any of the portraits depicting my role models.
Larry, at 9:20 am EDT on June 21, 2006
So, let me get this straight: If the share of college enrollment occupied by blacks and Latinos is less than their share of the underlying population, we’re told this is a problem, and it stems from insidious discrimination. But if every group were somehow to receive its “fair share” of college slots, we’re confronted with the argument that Asians deserve more than their proportionate share (because they’re better prepared). Seems to me we need to pick one basis or the other: either we allocate slots based on relative size of underlying racial groups, or we allocate slots based on academic preparation. I vote for the latter.
Publius, at 12:10 pm EDT on June 21, 2006
By todays America, there is no excuse why racism is not dead.
It is striking that an increase is white people is considered a problem, a decrease in any particular other color besides white and “yellow” is a problem, and more of non-white people can only be good. Why are we still even looking at race, a factor that should be irrelevant.
Kevin, Undergraduate, at 6:15 pm EDT on June 21, 2006
Being a former employee of the Law School Admissions Council (LSAC) some thirty years ago, I would like to offer a response to your question, Kevin, on why race is utilized as part of the Candidate Selection process into law school.
Thirty years ago, we identified two types of employment by which all law students compete for. 1) The big dollar jobs offered by corporations, distinguished law firms, clerkships, etc......Jobs that will pay by today’s standards 135K yearly…..and 2) The employment opportunities through communities.
In the high dollar realm of the legal profession, candidates selected for these positions are the best and the brightest upon graduation from law school. Even with the leveraging of their GPA prior to the selection into law school, which the Council has been doing for nearly forty years, by just looking at any undergraduates leverage GPA, a selection committee could easily tell as to your potential within their law school regardless of the LSAT Test Score.
Thus when your breakdown the employment opportunities, the top 14,000 (approx) by today’s requirement of Supply and Demand, students who apply to law school under today’s format would be hired by a top firm or corporation regardless of skin tone or sex because they seek your brilliance in that you can solve the complex problems that require your presence though employment.
The remaining jobs are within the community by which the old council members realized that each community is made up of cultures and/or race. By selecting the best candidate each year for the various community law opportunities, human trust or our relations with one another would be best served by which each culture would want to be represented by people who are made up of the their own culture or race so that they could best express their fears, desires and expectations of life, which would then be captured into the written laws by which we govern ourselves.
In-short, the community would best be served through the ‘Eyes of Race’.
With yourself probably being a true 4.0 grade ‘A’ student, the race factor seems unimportant or irrelevant because your skills and level of achievement would be recognized by the various firms and organizations that would seek you out for employment regardless of your culture, race or sex. However the remaining positions or approximately 22,750 community opportunities within the legal profession still require the human comfort or contact of race/culture so that their viewpoints or issues of concern are addressed through those that have experienced the same challenges within a community.
In providing you with a brief history of the conceived selection process, in 1980 when we divorced from ETS and became the Law School Admissions Services organization, we created a detailed business process and plan in anticipation of this controversy. We had to ensure the academics of each law candidate, their financials upon graduation by which the Tax payers were underwriting the funds yet still ensure that all cultures (within each community) through the eyes of race would have access (affordable at any level) to the legal profession.
Today we have tools, the technology and certainly the need. Our government has come to realize that we as a nation have come to an impasse. They chose to find the answer rather than debate the issue. May I suggest a book written by a former employee of the Council, ‘The Death of Affirmative Action; The proposed model for the candidate selection process into law school’. When you receive a call from the Texas Attorney Generals Office just five days after receiving the first letter from the Honorable John Ashcroft in acknowledging the proposal through the book, they knew they had the information necessary to build a process (with no human bias attached) that would resolve the issue for law school selection. The DOJ assigned the proposal case no# DJ 169-73-0
So we are going to get down to the bottom of this entangled mess on law school selection.
My proposal also includes representation for the Handicap, Disabled, our Senior Citizens and the Gay community (respectively) and all other cultures that are present within our borders. Hence the need for race/culture as part of the selection process.
And as I wrote in a response to noted Professor Dr. Pedro Noguera’s ‘Challenge’ in proving him wrong that university admissions has no solution, we can achieve the results sought, not only in law school selection, but medical school as well, and should we choose the option and fund the infrastructure, we can build a process for our seniors in high school who seek admissions into the various undergraduate universities throughout the land.
The old folks knew of a way!! And our governing agencies have been very active in seeking answers. In-Short, regardless of the outcome of any initiative (MCRI or others) any student (today) can now challenge their denial of admissions into any law school, regardless………If ‘between’ the various races or ‘within’ each race or culture.
No one disagreed with Justice O’Connor’s vision that all cultures or races must have access and representation within the realm of the legal profession, the challenge lied in how to get there.
And should Ricky Sander’s resolve the issue of class courses within law school so that the ‘average’ student can complete the studies necessary in passage of any state BAR examine, this nation has the answer that it seeks. AA is not just a problem within the states, but around the world.
You may not receive the acceptance letter within your first attempt for law school admissions, but within your third summer, 80 percent of those deserving and seeking admissions would be acknowledged by the legal profession by which you would now seek a seat within your desired law school or they would seek you out.
But the true benefit is that you, as the individual, would now come to comprehend that your efforts put forth would achieve the desired results on a national scale of professionalism through your academics achievements yet more importantly, your desired financial results for wealth.
John A Silvi, Author/Consultant, at 5:25 pm EDT on June 26, 2006
American society is and always will be based on the caste system. There has to be an underdog and the African American lawyer (not “the Black” Mr. William Sumner Scott, J.D. of the Judicial Equality Foundation, Inc) is exactly that in the legal profession.
It is amazing how no one seems to think that these articles merely perpetuate ignorant stereotypes. Has anyone stopped to think that maybe African Americans abhor working in environments that tout the beliefs stated in these articles? How many partners pair new minority associates up with other successful attorneys to show them ropes? If you are being honest, you will admit these mentors exist for non-minority attorneys. Does anyone at these large firms take time to make the minority attorney feel welcome? Grades and money have nothing to do with it. It’s purely environmental.
I dare anyone of any race to go into an environment where they are the minority and try to succeed among opinions about you similar to those expressed here. Throw a new swimmer into the ocean and watch him drown. That’s exactly what these large firms are doing. They want to like they are diverse for their corporate clients.
The large firms only hire a few minorities, so the applicable numbers discussed are nil. What about those successful corporate attorneys leading Fortune 500 companies? Look at Paula Boggs, general counsel of Starbucks and her brother N. Cornell Boggs III, chief legal officer of Coors- African Americans. There is an entire network of Corporate Counsel Women of Color all working in great environments where they are allowed to flourish.
It’s really simple. If you plant a seed in a pot with great soil in location that receives adequate light, water and fertilizer, the plant will flourish. The soil, light and water differ for everyone— even attorneys.
The educated and the everyday must not be so easily fooled by those supporting their personal opinions by what appears to be valid imperial data—-any fool knows you can manipulate information to support just about anything.
Those in these highly coveted large firm positions must protect these positions from outsiders and continue to believe they are superior. That’s OK. But, if you are smart as you believe you are, you don’t need these articles to tell you what the problem is. You already know. For those of you who believe this hogwash—look no further than the mirror! The perpetuators and believers of the MYTH.
TJ, at 12:35 pm EST on December 8, 2006
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“The remaining jobs are within the community by which the old council members realized that each community is made up of cultures and/or race. By selecting the best candidate each year for the various community law opportunities, human trust or our relations with one another would be best served by which each culture would want to be represented by people who are made up of the their own culture or race so that they could best express their fears, desires and expectations of life, which would then be captured into the written laws by which we govern ourselves.
In-short, the community would best be served through the ‘Eyes of Race’.”
This explanation brings to mind a thought I’ve had for a long time. I interpret the above statement as indicating that the most important reason for looking at race/etc. in admissions is to provide professionals to serve specific communities. This is certainly an important concern for medical schools.
If this is the case, then it seems to me that it would be much more effective, and much less politically controversial to focus admissions policies on those goals. The goal should be to admit a sufficient number of students who are likely to work in under-served areas, and be able to effectively work with those people. Instead of looking looking at skin color/ethnicity, just ask whether the student is interested in working in any particular under-served area. Ask them whether they have demonstrated that interest by working or volunteering in such areas. Ask whether they have lived in such areas and know the culture and/or language. Give them scholarships that can be forgiven if they work in under-served areas after graduation.
It seems to me that an approach of this type would be more effective, and far less politically controversial than treating people differently based on superficial characteristics of appearance.
James S Miller, at 3:35 pm EDT on March 17, 2008