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When mere mortals apply to Brown University, they fill out an application and line up letters from teachers. But Brown University is known for attracting plenty of students whose exceptional qualities relate as much to their families’ fame as their own accomplishments. Think Amy Carter, Cosima Von Bulow.

So perhaps it’s not surprising that when then-Hollywood übermogul Michael Ovitz’s son wanted to enroll in 1999, Ovitz (father, not son) sent word to Brown administrators. As described in a book about to be released, Brown admissions officers found the academic record of the younger Ovitz not close to what would be appropriate for an offer of admission. But they were pressured to admit him anyway, with top administrators far more concerned about the abilities of the elder Ovitz — to host receptions for Brown administrators to raise money, to bring movie stars to campus, and presumably to help build Brown’s endowment.

Though Ovitz’s son was admitted, under special status, he didn’t last long at Brown and left. Ovitz’s daughter followed, apparently with more success. And Brown also gained, as the book describes Brown President Ruth Simmons gushing over Ovitz for arranging a campus appearance in which he appeared with Dustin Hoffman, and for hosting a reception for her at Ovitz’s Brentwood mansion.

Neither Ovitz nor Brown University officials would respond to calls to ask about their reactions to the description of their relationship in The Price of Admission: How America’s Ruling Class Buys Its Way Into Elite Colleges — and Who Gets Left Outside the Gates (Random House). Daniel Golden, the author, won a Pulitzer Prize for exploring some of these issues in The Wall Street Journal, but his book contains numerous investigations that have not appeared previously, and that are bound to be controversial.

That American higher education is not a pure meritocracy is, of course, hardly news. But Golden’s book has a level of detail about the degree to which he says some colleges favor the privileged that will embarrass many an admissions officer. Golden names names of students — and includes details about their academic records before college and once there that raise questions about the admissions decisions being made. For good measure, he attacks Title IX (saying that the women’s teams colleges create favor wealthy, white applicants), preferences for faculty children (ditto, although substitute middle class for wealthy), and accuses colleges of making Asian applicants the “new Jews” and holding them to much higher standards than other students.

Even before its official release, The Price of Admission is causing considerable fear among the admissions officers of elite colleges. If you want to see an admissions dean really happy, tell her that you can’t find her institution in the index. The preferences highlighted in this book are the admissions preferences that college officials don’t like to talk about (except perhaps at reunion weekend). Presidents and deans in many cases welcome the opportunity to talk about why they want racial or socioeconomic or geographic diversity in their classes, why it is important that a class include enough string players for the orchestra and enough running backs for the football team. Who hasn’t heard an admissions story about recruiting a tuba player from Wyoming — as the perfect symbol of the art and science of constructing a class.

But preferences for the rich and famous, or generous alumni donors? That’s not something people like to talk about. Several deans accused Golden of taking the admissions process out of context (they said the numbers of rich who benefit are small), or being naive (when a billionaire is admitted to the ER, is treatment the same as that for an average Joe?), and of neglecting history (the preferences Golden described were far worse a few generations back). Some argued that it would be racist to eliminate preferences for the children of wealthy alumni now, when for the first time there are starting to be significant numbers of wealthy alumni who aren’t white.

Others disputed some details about their institutions, but most acknowledged that the book is likely to increase scrutiny of their practices — whatever they think of the fairness of the book and its message.

A chapter about Duke University, for example, says that a few years back the institution spread the word among private high schools that it wanted “development admits,” those whose families had the potential to become big donors, and that strong academic credentials weren’t a requirement.

Christoph Guttentag, dean of undergraduate admissions, said that while the book says this started prior to his arrival, it doesn’t ring true to him. “It’s certainly not my experience and it doesn’t feel right to me as a description of what was happening,” he said.

He acknowledged that Duke does consider — “for a small number of students” — the ability of their families to make contributions (financial and otherwise) to the university, but he stressed that he regularly “says No” to requests on behalf of such applicants, and that only those capable of doing well in Duke’s classrooms are admitted. Asked whether it was fair to do so, even for a small number, he started by talking about how this was similar to the way he considers requests from academic departments, supporters of extracurricular groups, coaches, and others. But he paused when told that all of those potential candidates contributed — at least in theory — to the educational environment for all students by virtue of their skills or interests. Isn’t money different?

Said Guttentag: “I don’t think there is a selective private university that is the kind of university we are that to one degree or another doesn’t do this, with the understanding that ultimately the university as a whole and the students benefit from the facilities or financial aid [donated]. When there is a significant financial interest in the university, that’s one of the things we take into account.”

The Author’s Motives

In an interview, Golden said that he became interested in the issue of preferences for the wealthy while he was covering the judicial battles over affirmative action at the University of Michigan. “Everyone was writing about the boosts [in the admissions process] for minority applicants,” he said, but he started to realize that there were also explicit boosts for the extremely wealthy and alumni children. He was struck, Golden said, by how little attention such preferences received.

“When people have talked about preferences that aren’t based on merit, you have this lineup where the colleges and liberal groups are defending affirmative action and conservatives are attacking it and they are overlooking the elephant in the room,” he said. “Both sides have a vested interest in overlooking preferences for the wealthy,” he said, because colleges “need the money” they get from favoring the wealthy and conservatives “want their kids to get in.”

Judging from those who have favorably blurbed his book, Golden is reaching both sides in the affirmative action debate. Support comes from strong supporters of affirmative action like Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Lani Guinier, with the latter saying that the book shows that “the already privileged are the truly preferred.” But the book also wins an endorsement from Diane Ravitch, a critic of affirmative action, who writes that while she “didn’t want to believe” the book’s thesis, she found the evidence to be “overwhelming.”

Chapters in the book focus on different issues: Duke is portrayed as favoring the wealthy, Brown the famous, Harvard University is said to help wealthy and well connected alumni, and the University of Notre Dame is accused of granting too much weight to alumni child status.

At Harvard, Golden focuses on two practices — the use of the “Z List” and the impact of belonging to an elite group of the university’s most generous donors. Like many universities, Harvard tells some of its applicants that they can enroll if they defer for a year, and tells others whom it rejects that they may want to apply again in a year. The Z List, according to Golden, is a special part of this policy. It is a list for 25 to 50 “well connected but often academically borderline applicants” who are told that they can enroll a year later. Membership is closely tied to connections to current or potential donors, and we’re talking big donors, not those who send in their $50 checks, according to Golden.

Golden also writes about a Harvard group called the Committee on University Resources, which is generally restricted to those who have given the university at least $1 million, and with many members who have given much more. Of the 340 committee members who have children who are college age or are past college age, 336 children are enrolled or studied at Harvard — even though the university admits fewer than 1 in 10 candidates and has typically turned away students with top academic records. While Harvard has acknowledged giving “all other factors being equal” preference to loyal alumni children, Golden suggests that this sort of enrollment pattern suggests a much larger preference than the university generally acknowledges.

A Harvard spokesman, via e-mail, did not comment directly on the Z List, but referred to a Harvard publication that encourages applicants to consider taking a year off before college. As for preferences for the children of the wealthiest alumni, the spokesman said that a “substantial majority” of alumni children are not admitted, that the SAT averages for admitted alumni children are slightly higher than those for other students, and that no students are admitted who aren’t highly qualified.

At Notre Dame, a university that has become increasingly competitive in admissions over the last 20 years, Golden focuses in on preferences for alumni children. He notes that roughly 1 in 4 freshmen comes from a Notre Dame family, while fewer than 1 in 10 comes from a family in which neither family went to college. To drive home the point, he compares the academic records of specific students admitted and rejected by Notre Dame (and other colleges), to make the point that individuals with better academic and extracurricular records are being passed over for less qualified people from Domer families.

Daniel J. Saracino, assistant provost for admissions at Notre Dame, has read the chapter on his institution and said that he did not dispute any of the figures or examples. But he strongly disagreed that there was anything wrong with Notre Dame favoring its alumni, and said he objected to the idea that the university did so only for financial reasons.

“What [alumni children] are bringing is a unique perspective for Notre Dame, a passion for Notre Dame” that is a contribution to the campus climate in much the same way that a talented scholar, artist or athlete makes contributions to the climate, Saracino said. He added that it was “disingenuous” to suggest that there has “ever been a level playing field in admissions” and that the question should be whether the total of a university’s policies end up promoting academic excellence, diversity and the health of the institution.

By focusing on alumni children, and not the university’s growing racial diversity or growing financial aid budget or growing academic quality, Saracino said, “you really lose sight of the whole picture.”

The Role of Women’s Sports

A similar criticism is being leveled at Golden’s critique of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, which requires gender equity in education programs receiving federal funds. Title IX has prompted many colleges to create new women’s teams and in a chapter called “Title IX and the Rise of the Upper-Class Athlete,” Golden writes that teams such as fencing, crew and polo have resulted in more admissions slots and scholarships going to wealthy white women who don’t need help. Given that many of these sports require expensive training and equipment, Golden writes that only those from prosperous families will learn to play, raising the question of “whether proficiency in squash or sailing or horseback riding should be considered a credential for a college education or just a token of social status.”

In an interview, Donna Lopiano, executive director of the Women’s Sports Foundation, questioned Golden’s logic. For starters, she said, some of the sports being created by colleges for women do not require country club membership — even if it would appear that way. She said, for example, that rowing is notable among college sports (for men and women) in that people with certain kinds of strength and discipline can take up the sport in college, without prior experience. She also said that sports like lacrosse, once “prep school sports,” are spreading, and that one can’t make assumptions about the economic background of a female lacrosse player.

Lopiano did not contest that there are sports — particularly equestrian events — that require real money. But she said that there is a chicken-and-egg question that Golden is answering one way and she would answer another. College can’t start teams in certain sports unless they have student bodies with potential players, she said, arguing that colleges don’t create polo squads to attract wealthy students, but create polo squads because they already have wealthy students. “The rich kids came first, well before Title IX,” she said.

While those whose institutions or causes are attacked in the book are among those taking a critical look, so are those in elite higher education whose colleges come out relatively unscathed. Williams College, for example, doesn’t rate an index mention, but does give preference to alumni children and selected others.

Richard L. Nesbitt, director of admissions at Williams, said that roughly 11 to 14 percent of each class is made up of alumni children, and that that ratio has been unchanged for about 30 years. He said that on the “academic rating” applicants receive (based on grades, difficulty of high school program, test scores, teacher recommendations, etc.), there is “no statistical difference” between the alumni group and other students.

The admit rate of alumni children is significantly higher than that for all applicants, Nesbitt said, although he declined to reveal specifics, saying that Williams does not release that information for any subgroup of applicants. But Nesbitt cautioned against thinking that the higher rate means lower standards for that group. Applicants are generally better prepared if they have well educated parents, who are more likely to have the resources to help their children’s education. Beyond that, he said, one benefit Williams does give to alumni children is to offer more information in interviews, so that students who are unlikely to be admitted get that message early and are less likely to apply.

Nesbitt said he had difficulty with Golden’s thesis that admissions policies that give any preference to alumni children are limiting the overall socioeconomic diversity of elite colleges, and especially the enrollment of Asian students. Colleges like Williams are more diverse every year, he said, enrolling record numbers of Asian students while changing financial aid policies to attract more low-income students of all races and ethnicities.

As to those who do benefit from alumni or fund raising preferences, Nesbitt said that higher education depends on an “intergenerational social contract” in which people give to promote the college, and should be encouraged to do so.

Williams regularly looks at the impact of all of its admissions policies, and Nesbitt said that data indicate that a disproportionate number of student leaders in service activities are alumni children. He noted that 20 percent of the juniors selected by their peers to advise freshmen on their adjustment to the college are legacy admits. “That’s reassuring to me,” Nesbitt said. “If special consideration is given, there is giving back by these students, too.”

In an interview, Golden said that he’s not making the claim that all children of the wealthy are necessarily unworthy of attending a good college, or that none of them would be admitted minus their families’ names and portfolios. But he said that colleges are taking “the easy way” to raising money and promoting campus cohesion.

In the book, he cites the California Institute of Technology as an example of an elite research university that gives no preference to alumni children, and also praises similar policies at Cooper Union and Berea College. In the interview, Golden acknowledged that the workload of the typical Caltech student is such that it’s not really surprising that the children of Hollywood stars prefer Providence to Pasadena.

But Golden said that’s precisely the point. Caltech is known for having incredibly talented students who work hard — and the institute is no slacker in fund raising, without any help from alumni preferences.

“The fact is that they raise money based on the excellence of the program,” he said. “If they can do it, the Ivies and Duke and Stanford and the others can do it, too. They may be raising money the easiest and simplest way, but it doesn’t have to be that way.”

As for his critics who say that college classes are more diverse and less focused on alumni than they were a few generations ago, Golden said that doesn’t negate the problems with the policies today. And he said that “development admits” — those who are rich with no previous connection to a college — are on the rise. At the same time, he said, it’s harder to get in to top colleges today, and even if they represent but a slice of higher education, they are an important one.

The Price of Admission notes that members of Congress periodically get interested in these issues, but tend to back off. Golden said he doesn’t know if his book will change the debate, but he said that the policies deserve more scrutiny at the very least.

And if you are wondering, Golden is a Harvard alumnus whose father was a City College of New York alum — he’s no legacy admit. Golden has a son, who is 14. Asked if he fears that his book might not endear him or his son to Harvard’s admissions office, Golden said that he didn’t think his son would apply there. But what if he did? Would it be OK for him to check the box indicating that he would be a legacy?

Golden said that was an “interesting question” but that he wanted to focus on colleges, not applicants. “I"m not trying to point any finger of blame at the families. I understand that they want to do what’s best by their child,” he said. “It’s the system that the colleges have set up that is responsible for this. They have set up a system that invites abuse.”

Scott Jaschik

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Institutions of higher education are best understood as organisms that evolve toward enhancing the generation of donations. Each finds the niche that works best, whether it is single-sex education, big-time sports, small classes, religion, cultivation of rich parents, focus on certain academic disciplines, or many other approaches. It not our concern as long as it is done legally and as Darwin would have predicted the struggle for funds has led to a wonderful variety of colleges and universities in the United States. So let Brown be Brown and Cal Tech be Cal Tech and enjoy the difference.

No Problem, at 8:20 am EDT on September 5, 2006

What?!

The rich and famous and connected get into presigious schools ahead of the rest of us?! Surprise, surprise, surprise!

Retired Prof, at 9:20 am EDT on September 5, 2006

Elitism

Schools that market elitism attact elitist. Now there is a shocker. Next you will be saying that students who score highly on tests of academic preparedness are more likely to be better prepared. This could lead to children of wealth achieving greater wealth in life! Where Golden’s reasoning is flawing is in her contrast of Affirmative Action and elitist as two ends of the spectrum, since AA does lower the bar on preparedness and in educational standards, thus assuring the right of all Americans, even the elite, to learn less. What better way to level the playing field than to assure that the heads of the strongest do not rise above those of the weakest.

GoFigure, at 9:40 am EDT on September 5, 2006

Now lets see

To the extent that this is happening, lets see the outrage from those on the right (David Horowitz, NAS, FIRE, Bennett, etc) about this affirmative action for the wealthy. Their silence on the lowering of standards and preferential treatment for legacy admits puts into doubt their rhetoric aimed at affirmative action (that merit, and merit only, is what counts).

Ken, at 10:05 am EDT on September 5, 2006

Favoritism

Favoritism always has a downside no matter the explanation. When a student devotes years of his or her life to getting into a particular university or college, gets all A’s, spends hours practicing to obtain high SAT scores, gets involved in multiple extra-curriculars and spends hours writing the college essay and then gets turned down in favor of a lazy student with mediocre grades and test scores but some kind of preferential status, society’s claim to fairness is compromised. It doesn’t much matter what noble purpose was served by such a decision, the student who lost in this game will always feel cheated.

But in getting an overall picture of preferential admissions it is important to consider the impact on different institutions. There are a core of elite institutions, the Ivy league schools, Stanford, MIT, Cal Tech, Chicago, perhaps a few state schools and a few liberal arts colleges that are the subject of intense competition. A degree from these schools, particularly the Ivy league ones, can make a significant difference in terms of future employment opportunities. Some businesses will only hire graduates of prestigious universities, so exclusion from admission to these colleges affects more than the quality of ones college education. It also lowers the trajectory for one’s future career path.

If Harvard favors children of the wealthy, the famous or its alumni, it is denying future economic opportunity to those without such advantages. On the other hand, if a small liberal arts college of less renown favors the children of alumni, it doesn’t have any overall impact on the career opportunities of its applicants. Furthermore, it is less justifiable for the elite universities with multibillion dollar endowments to sell admissions than for small colleges with small endowments.

So the discussions about preferential admissions policies are really about admissions to elite private schools and flagship state universities. The rest of the schools may have a variety of priorities but there are more than enough to go around.

So the real question is whether the current admissions practices of elite schools matters. What difference does it make if Harvard chooses the sons of wealthy alumni over the middle-income students with superior academic credentials? Is MIT wrong to choose a very good female applicant over an outstanding Asian male applicant? What are the consequences?

I personally think such policies are a mistake for a number of reasons.

1. They undermine the general quality of fairness of the society as a whole.

2. They undermine high school education as they discourage students from investing in a system that is arbitrary and unfair to start with. Entrance to college is a big motivator in student effort and the quality of high school education will go down if students are less motivated.

3. It sets up a conflict of values between academic life which values first and foremost academic talent and effort, and other considerations which may or not be of social value but are not central to the academic enterprise. Faculty have a stake in having the best students possible. The student culture greatly affects the learning process and if the schools through their admissions policies do not emphasize academics, they are undermining the academic culture of their schools.

4. The admissions preferences undermine the evaluation processes. There are changes in the standardized tests and how they are evaluated that prevent distinguishing between high end applicants.

On the SAT I exam, college admissions at most elite schools allow students to take the exam as many times as they like and count the highest for each test. That produces the result of a great number of perfect scores. The student who takes the test once as a junior and gets a 1600 is considered the same as a student who takes the exam four times and manages an 800 on the math test on one and an 800 on the verbal on another. On the SAT II, an 800 on the physics test puts the student in about the 93rd percentile.

This results in admissions officers from the Ivy league schools telling prospective parents and students that they reject hundred’s of students with perfect scores as a consolation for those who will be rejected but there is something disingenuous about this. A closer scrutiny of the test results would reveal significant differences in the performances but would also make it more difficult to sort out by other forms of preference.

Grade inflation at the high school level also plays a role here. When all the applicants for Harvard and Yale have similar high end grades and test scores, the non-academic factors become the determining ones.

Many schools have different levels for classes with more difficult levels getting scored differently in determining student GPA’s. This puts pressure on the schools to admit more students into the higher level classes. This undermines the standards in honors courses as they must accomodate a more divergent set of abilities.

The overall impact of the homogenization at the top is that it tends to reward mediocre work done to perfection rather than the ability to do things that are genuinely difficult.

In a conversation with a former admissions counselor from an elite school I asked what would it take for a gifted mathematics student with a good but not outstanding academic record to be considered for admission. From his experience he suggested that being on the US Math Olympiad team would catch their attention. The selection of the US team to compete in the International Math Olympiad is done through a sequence of increasingly rigorous competitions. Since there are only six members selected in any given year and chosen from across all four grades of high school, this is a very rigorous standard.

I found this example very revealing. It basically says that in terms of admissions policies at his school, being one of a half dozen of the most gifted high school math students in the country is valued the same as having a parent who is worth a hundred million dollars. I can’t see how this says something good about higher education in America.

Jonathan Cohen, at 10:30 am EDT on September 5, 2006

Long live the plutocracy!

Golden’s book is yet another piece of overwhelming evidence that America is a plutocracy disguised as a democracy, and all the talk about egalitarianism is a smoke screen laid down by those in power to create the illusion of opportunity for all.

The rich and powerful control our corporations, our elections, our government, and yes, the boards of trustees and the alumni councils of our elite universities, and they’ve consistently stacked the deck in their own favor. As others have noted, there’s no surprise there.

What’s interesting is that as the less deserving children of the wealthy and powerful continue to get all the breaks, leadership of our institutions will increasingly slide down the slippery slope of mediocrity. Our recent national history has provided a convincing case study of the disastrous consequences of that sad legacy.

Richard A Hesel, at 10:35 am EDT on September 5, 2006

Tarnished Education at Silver Spoon Colleges?

Nowhere is there any mention of does this matter? The question should be “does reserving some percentage of freshman spaces at elite colleges actually deny anyone a quality higher education?”

There is substantial research suggesting that the value-added benefit – why students go to college – is independent of institutional reputation. Therefore this book is more an extension of the U.S. News and World Report/Princeton Review phenomenon, promoting the idea that elite equals quality.

It also appears to drift far from the purported stimulus – the Michigan affirmative action case. This focused on the value of increased campus diversity on the quality of the educational experience for all enrolled students, not on the benefit to those who were the focus of affirmative practices.

Gadfly at Large, at 11:05 am EDT on September 5, 2006

I agree completely that the bar should not be lowered for anyone. And Ken, I suspect many of the so called ‘right’ would agree with this statement (especially given the example given of preferences given to ‘Hollywood Elite”. Money should not buy an unqualified student a place in university.I disagree to some extent with banning legacies. At least in totally removing preferences. Given that most elite schools have far more qualified applicants than opening, legacies can be admitted without lowering the bar. I believe that a certain number of legacies benefit a school by continuing traditions, keeping the flavor of a campus and, one could argue, building a stronger network for all who attend. It also is a compromise that helps increase alumni donations (like it or not, these are important). I see this same argument – having preferences within the qualified pool – being used to promote increased diversification of the student body, whether economically, racially or whatever. The key point though, is that all this should be done without lowering the bar to any individual.

stm, UConn, at 11:10 am EDT on September 5, 2006

This is diversity

Okay, this might sound sarcastic, but perhaps rich slackers benefit everyone. First of all, they have money. They can buy things. Sure, they talk on their cellphones all the time, and they generally annoy people, but if rich people attend a school, other rich people follow. Perhaps they can teach poor people a think or two about being rich: like table manners and how to make “rich-people” small-talk. Secondly, having rich friends always helps. I don’t like to hang out with poor people. They bring me down. When poor kids visit the parents of rich kids, they know what they can look up to. Conversely, when rich kids visit poor kids, they know the way the other half lives. Third, rich kids often discard things that can be salvaged by poor kids. Fourth, rich kids will probably give to the college which, if their children are also admitted it will be a gift that keeps on giving. Their gifts can be used to finance new classrooms, airports, boats, legal fees. Fifth, having rich alums will convince others that their success is due to that school. The school looks better having a bunch of housewives as alums who run art galleries at a loss, rather than having a bunch of housewives as alums that work at Walmart. Trust me on this.

This is real diversity, folks. Get used to it!

While I would never advise someone to go to a second-rate school, I should probably note that the undergraduate school one attends means less and less each year, as graduate degrees are becoming more important to one’s success, and most graduate schools do not actively discriminate between “Ivies” and most schools in the USN top 100. Granted, going to a school ranked less than 20 might prevent you getting a job, as an undergrad, at some financial firms, but it does not make too much difference once one gets a good graduate degree, anyway.

Larry, at 11:30 am EDT on September 5, 2006

Not surprised, still not interested.

Affirmitive action is more harmful than silver spooning, though it generally amounts to the same thing. Admittance based on any superficial qualification affords the school a better reputation. Still, though it happens in the admission process, I have never experienced professors taking financial or racial stock on the first day of class. Your effort and merit are the only thing that matter, no matter what school you go to. When you graduate, no one cares who your parents are, and few people care what school you went to. Failure to withstand is nothing more; be it at Harvard or a community college.

I know rich kids who are smart, I know asian kids who cheat, I know poor kids who are dumb. Stereotyping is still harmful— no matter what its implications.

L Greig, at 12:25 pm EDT on September 5, 2006

How we change that?

As we all know, for privately hold companies, there is not much we can do regarding on who they hire. The only balances that make them to hire talent people is the final test — the failing of the company. A heated market will enforce that effect.

For institutions, unless public funded, the situation is similar. A big difference is that the final test isn’t normally known or clear in this case. So the idea to balance the situation is to promote the knowledge of institutions’ performance — which should have been the job of accredidation agency. By employing standard test or other assessment, we promote the final test to a much more visible state. In this way, institutions have to balance their admission against their reputation. Currently, the effect of silver spoon admittances isn’t well-known and consumers can’t make good judgments of those institutions and allowing them to admit whomever they wanted.

Duncan, at 12:55 pm EDT on September 5, 2006

Confusion

“Their silence on the lowering of standards and preferential treatment for legacy admits puts into doubt their rhetoric aimed at affirmative action (that merit, and merit only, is what counts).”

Your outrage here confuses concern over violation of Constitutional law and despicable, but not illegal, favoritism. Both forms of discrimination are dead wrong. However, discrimination based on race, ethnicity, sex, national origins, etc. violates both constitutional and statutory prohibitions, whereas preferring rich and connected kids over poor kids does not.

I hate the latter as much as I do the former, but there isn’t a damned thing illegal about it.

JBM, at 3:55 pm EDT on September 5, 2006

To Brown’s credit ...

They admitted Ovitz as “Special Status.” Maybe the Ovitz’s did or did not know the meaning of this, but at our campus this means “You can take courses, but we have not enrolled you as a degree seeking student.”

They got to have their cake while still not promising anything.

GradChair, at 7:20 pm EDT on September 5, 2006

Ready to take on sporting cheats

This august debating society appears quite ready to take on sporting cheats.

Your topic (heard at a local sports bar and grill in the upper mid-west): all rules and regulations in amateur sports should be immediately suspended.

This debate may consider size, age, and height parameters, steroid and other drug use, previous professional status, high school and college academic performance, field and equipment dimensions, weights, and construction.

Anything goes, eh?

Just as in college admissions and Western business, and holy war.

Dr. F. Gump, at 8:40 pm EDT on September 5, 2006

duke admissions

My son is a freshman at Duke this year. He did very well at a competitive private high school, took all AP classes and had a near perfect score on his SATs. He applied to Duke early admission, as did a “celebrity” offspring who was his classmate. This “celebrity” offspring was also a qualified candidate, who could definitely succeed there. My son was admitted; the “celebrity” was not. Everyone at the high school was shocked. I was shocked — we all believed that money and fame would make the decision easy. I still am not quite sure why my son was accepted — was it his near perfect SATs, his record of community service, or his very rigorous schedule?It really restored my faith in the admissions system (at Duke, anyway!!)

duke mom 2010, exception to the rule? at duke, at 9:20 pm EDT on September 5, 2006

Elites in Decline

First, I agree with an earlier poster that admitting the poorly prepared but wealthy elite’s children does not bode well for perpetuation of the Republic. Idiots, no matter how well degreed, do not make good statesmen or titans of industry. And haven’t we all seen enough demonstrations of this effect over the last couple of decades?

But secondly, declining elites tend to be self-extinguishing. Unless we get bright new blood into the veins of Uncle Sam right now we may all die with him. Higher education is both an elastic fungible good and discretionary. When Uncle starts to die the academy may well be one of the first fiefdoms to perish.

Bruce Harvey, at 5:45 am EDT on September 6, 2006

Golden’s admission

Daniel Golden’s father may not have been a Harvard alumnus, but he was a prominent member of the Harvard faculty!

Bob, at 9:46 am EDT on September 6, 2006

Why do we assume that all rich kids are not also deserving acedemics? These numbers are just an estimate, but I believe Harvard, for example, received some 22,000 applicants last year and could only accept some 2,000. Presumably, more than 2,000 of these applicants can handle the coursework of the challenging chariculum and have- not just good applications- but FLAWLESS. Some of these flawless applications describe the work of a driven kid, both wealthy and poor. The applicants ("kids” as I like to call them) are community volunteers, straight A students in rigurous high school programs, athletes, concert pianists, playrights, abstract artists, business entrepreneurs, and many other things before they even turn eighteen. They are from every country in the world (believe me, Harvard has scouts planted everywhere) and yes, a few of them are from wealthy parents, a few of them are from famous parents, hell a few of them are famous in their own right for crying out loud. The reality is, there are bright kids who work hard in all economic levels of society from around the world and schools like Harvard, Stanford, and Yale have their pick of the best of the best. The only real problem that their addmissions offices have is how to decide whom to admit. How do you tell one straight A student with perfect test scores and Big Brothers/Big Sisters on their resume that they are in and someone else who is a straight A student with perfect test scores and Big Brothers/Big Sisters on their records that they are not? Of course, this is not a real problem. The brightest kids in the world are not the problem. The 1% of the richest people in America are not the problem. The few schools who can pick and choose from the most tallented pools in the world are not the problem. The problem lies with books and studies that focus their energy and their audiences energy on a very, very small percentage of the population. Who gives a rats ass what a tiny number of people are doing? Why not focus our collective energies on the real issues. For one, how do we get better resources to the lower and middle class kids who would shine given some good old fashion attention! Why not cultivate a community of fostering the good old average kid?! Why not write a book about the 26,000 kids that graduate from Northern Illinois University every year with majors in teaching, social work, and yes, believe it or not, high finance? So, a few schools accept a few elite- they are not the problem.

Mary, at 3:35 pm EDT on September 6, 2006

When will some top-ranking colleges earn their top rankings by admitting students solely on their intellectual attainments? They require students to take SATs—what more do they need? They certainly don’t need to give athletic preferences, activity preferences, racial preferences or any other preference, and they could afford to give scholarships to those brilliant students who need the money. A whole school full of people who aced the SATs would probably be more interesting than any student body assembled by admissions bureaucrats, anyway.

Tom, at 3:35 pm EDT on September 6, 2006

These diminished standards are intimately tied in with grade inflation. Because the minimum standards for graduating with some degree (not in a tough major) from Harvard are low, many kids who are well below the Harvard average in terms of preparation, diligence and ability can graduate if admitted. This knowledge also increases “selectivity” by encouraging weaker students to apply “just in case.”

In contrast, the workload at Caltech makes legacy admits and AA almost irrelevant. If someone say, with under 700 on the SAT Math, a B average in high school, and no calculus were to be admitted to Caltech, the odds are that he/she would be ground under by the rigorous core curriculum regardless of which major he picked. At the Ivies and indeed at most of the nation’s top colleges that don’t end in the words “Institute of Technology", a student can strategically choose classes and a major that’s easy to handle. Hence colleges lower the requirements for the academic bottom of the class while reciting the weasel words “All of our admits are qualified to attend our university.”

Chigorin, at 9:55 am EDT on September 7, 2006

Congrats to Dan Golden for writing the book. I saw with my daughter’s admission ( or lack thereof) to ivies that the points he brings up are important. She had very close to 1500 SAT, very high grades, all 5’s on APs, work experience, glowing references.. and was rejected from all ivies. If America is to stay great... the greatest must be given all opportunity and we must push ahead those who may have the best credentials, not necessarily those with the ivy league diplomas. ( it is a simple fact) Those who were admitted who we know all had a hook and nearly all had inferior credentials. Really not fair and actually pretty nauseating. We need to recognize it for what it is, have an open mind to the best not being from those schools. Even acceptance of that fact. It is important to them and it is important to our country.

googie, at 6:40 pm EDT on September 9, 2006

Lazy rich kids need an education most of all

Maybe it is important that slacker rich kids get an education at Brown, or wherever, even if it means a great student sacrifices his seat there. Kids of wealthy and powerful people will inherit their parents’ money and business some day, daunting amounts which can greatly impact society if managed correctly. Perhaps sitting next to a hard working poor kid with perfect SATs will open their eyes.

And who’s to say that kid who didn’t get the seat at Brown isn’t better off going to a state school somewhere, where hard work is the only determinant for success. I hear those Ivy league schools are packed full of lazy rich kids, anyways.

No fan of Harvard, at 11:20 pm EDT on October 23, 2006

silver spoons

SUNY CUNYetc.

chloe, at 12:30 pm EST on November 19, 2006

No Fan of Harvard: “I hear those Ivy league schools are packed full of lazy rich kids, anyways.” Maybe your opinion would be changed if you came to eat dinner in Annenberg, and witnessed our enthusiasm and intellect firsthand, rather than drawing your information from stereotypes.

That being said, I concede that there is a good explanation for the existence of so many negative stereotypes about Harvard out there. The unconditional adulation of Harvard in the eyes of some (high school parents...) should rightly lead the rest of us to skepticism. However, this does not automatically swing the argument in the opposite direction, that Harvard is contemptible ("Who Needs Harvard?"—Time Magazine). Let’s not lose sight of the scale of the issue this book takes on: whatever you may have heard, if you ever walk on campus the first person you meet is unlikely to be the spoiled, lazy progeny of a millionaire, but some deserving nerd.

Now that the question of proportion has been addressed, I’ll say it: there are people here who probably don’t belong here. (I’m writing anonymously because I could easily alienate some classmates by saying this). Many were recruited for athletic teams under explicitly lower academic standards, and there is a fairly delineated social divide between these recruits and the rest of the student body. I don’t think that Harvard is even serving these recruits well by admitting them. Academically, if someone who took 8 AP classes are scored 5’s on most of them, went to gifted summer programs based on middle-school SAT scores, had a solid independent reading in Western philosophy, and several serious extracurricular involvements before enrolling here can feel some stress in classes, I can hardly imagine what they feel (of course, as someone noted above, course selection is a factor). Socially, most of the student body is indifferent to sports at best, and are sometimes openly resentful of the presence of recruits on campus, when some of them are the same people who made our lives less than happy in high school for being smart. Now, people will casually ask, “What do you think of athletes?” and others will reply that they don’t like the systematic recruitment, or, “Well...at least they pad the grade curve.” On average, they also party harder than the rest of us, risking Harvard’s reputation with the local community. Top schools that admit any of their students for reasons other than academic achievement are hurting not only the image of a meritocratic community of learning that ordinary Harvard students like me want to hold, but also the self-confidence of those whom they bring to a school in which they will not fit in.

anonymous Harvard student, Harvard, at 2:50 pm EST on November 22, 2006

Elite College Admissions

I have the benefit of having attended high school in Europe, where I was exposed to a merit based evaluation system, both in high school and the selection process that led to admission in a University.

I laugh every time I hear that the best high school students make it to elite universities in the United States. The very best high school students, from so called top high schools like New Trier in Illinois, would not only fail the rigorous university entrance exams, in any European country, but I venture to say that 99% would fail to graduate high school.

In order to validate my point just give a standard European 11th or 12th grade exam, that consists of advanced calculus, advanced physics, etc (common practice in Europe) from any European high school, and observe that almost 99% of USA high school graduates will fail to even graduate high school.

The best students should attend the universities period. Forget about extracurricular activities and sports abilities.

Jim, IllinoiS Institute Of Technology, at 6:00 pm EDT on June 13, 2007

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