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September 22, 2006

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Several Massachusetts Institute of Technology students hatched a scheme last spring to show how easy it would be to abuse a campus system for distributing funds to student groups. Their plan -- to see if they could successfully request money to hire strippers -- worked all too well, and the resulting mess has angered some students and embarrassed MIT officials.

"All I can say is that it was never the intention to actually carry out a stripper event," Matt Long, a junior involved with the plan wrote in an email Thursday.

MIT's student newspaper reported last week that the student-run governing structure at Simmons Hall, one of MIT's residence halls, had approved a proposal to use house funds to hire strippers last spring. The plan then survived a challenge this month after another Simmons resident filed a proposal to repeal it.

An MIT official declined to elaborate further on the details of the vote, but the Simmons housemaster, John M. Essigmann, a professor of toxicology and chemistry, said that the dorm's approach to governance is based on a New England town meeting, with each member of the house having a vote and a responsibility to the community. Only 29 of Simmons' 350 residents attended the spring meeting at which the proposal was approved, the Harvard Crimson reported Thursday .

The students behind the proposal say it was a prank all along, but the joke clearly wasn’t funny to some who voted unsuccessfully for its repeal this month.

“The purpose of writing and passing the absurd proposal was to very clearly highlight the ease of obtaining thousands of dollars for any purpose whatsoever from Simmons Hall," Long said in his e-mail. "Hopefully with the publicity our proposal made, the Simmons Hall government will rethink the logic of allowing a handful of residents to legally procure thousands (of) house dollars without a house majority approval ever again."

"It was all a big joke and we didn't expect it to be a big deal," Matthew Caballero, another junior involved in the plan wrote in an e-mail.

But there is apparently nothing in place at MIT to stop such a stunt from becoming reality. Ellen M. Essigmann, who shares housemaster duties with John, said that to her knowledge, there is no rule or regulation barring the use of house funds to hire strippers.

"At MIT, we have what's called home rule within the dormitories. Obviously, all of the dormitories have to comply with state, federal, local and MIT rules and regulations, but with regards to use of the student funds, these are funds that belong to the students; that is up to them to decide how to use them," said Ellen Essigmann.

John Essigmann said the funds for the stripping event, suggested as a finals activity, have not yet been tapped. He added that there has not been much on-campus discussion of the plan. "Two other residence halls hire strippers on a more or less regular basis."

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Comments on Student Fees for Strippers?

  • Whoa!
  • Posted by kgotthardt on September 22, 2006 at 8:55am EDT
  • When I was in college, we had to go though several layers of processing and approvals and hope we could get the funding for valid activities. Looks like MIT has some procedural revising to take care of!

  • I want to go back to college
  • Posted by Martin on September 22, 2006 at 9:25am EDT
  • All I have to say is that I want to go back to college, wonder if MIT is accepting applications? On a serious note, having been in higher education for many years, this kind of abuse can and does take place. However, if the funds are paid in by the students and the students have a democratic way of spending those funds, the only students who can complain are the ones who show up to vote. Anyone who does not participate in the democratic process has no voice with which to complain.

  • Kegs
  • Posted by Dominick on September 22, 2006 at 9:46am EDT
  • A friend of mine talks about how they used to use residence hall funds to purchase kegs of beer. She held the pretigious residence hall council position of "Keg Master" and was responsible for tapping the keg. Mind you, this was back when the drinking age was 18.

  • An Agenda
  • Posted by S.D. on September 22, 2006 at 10:01am EDT
  • Perhaps an agenda for the meeting should be posted prior to the meeting. That way, anyone with an interest in the topic will be sure to attend and vote. That's how most city governments operate when there is a meeting in which the public can express an opinion. Then, true, if you don't take the time to be there and vote, then don't complain.

  • how is it abuse?
  • Posted by Larry on September 22, 2006 at 10:01am EDT
  • Just a thought: how is it abuse? Like it or not, “strippers” are a noticeable part of our culture (e.g. bachelorette and retirement parties), and “sensuous” dancing plays a part in many other cultures.

  • Posted by Alex Lyman on September 22, 2006 at 11:31am EDT
  • Larry:

    You missed the most obvious place where strippers are an important part of every-day life: MIT's graduate program. I mean, seriously, guys, these are engineers, scientists, and computer geeks that had a GPA/ACT/SAT high enough to gain acceptance into MIT -- you seriously think they're going to see real-life boobies without, you know, hiring them?

  • why should we treat smart people worse ?
  • Posted by Larry on September 22, 2006 at 12:02pm EDT
  • Alex, I am trying to follow. My point is that strippers are a part of American culture. Your point is that these people are smart, and therefore, they can afford to hire people with such culture.

    As I see it, there are two problems with your point.

    First of all, as much as strippers are a part of American culture, American law (i.e. namely civil rights actions alleging “hostile environment” sexual harassment) and culture frowns upon treating non-stripper-employees as sex objects.

    Secondly, there appears to be no objection to other forms of American culture, which, apparently, there is no objection to the use of school funds to pay for. You seem to be arguing that the higher peoples’ standardized test scores, the less access they have to equally available funds, and the more such funds must be used for only certain, puritan forms of entertainment.

  • So?
  • Posted by Ringo on September 22, 2006 at 12:06pm EDT
  • When I was at MIT I was pinball-com for my dorm, in charge of dealing with the vending machine company that provided them (and once I convinced them that MIT students needed the machine changed every six weeks, instead of every quarter, the house started turning a profit).

    I'm not sure why this is such a bid deal. They would, of course, have to have provided both male and female strippers. But no one was excluded from the meeting, and no one was forced to see them.

    (oh, and some of the students have boobs of their own, thanks).

  • Posted by Jessica on September 22, 2006 at 12:45pm EDT
  • I think what he was trying to say is that....typically, the higher a person's IQ, the lower their social skills are. Just walk through any IT department, and you will see what I mean...Stars wars posters and action figures galore. It's not a matter of earning capabilities. It's a matter of these people don't have the social skills to see naked chiks without hiring them...

  • Strippers
  • Posted by Robert Wilder on September 22, 2006 at 1:45pm EDT
  • WHOOOOAAAAA!
    When I was in college we had to go through several layers of processing and approvals before we could get the money necessary for strippers...

  • culture
  • Posted by Fawna on September 22, 2006 at 2:05pm EDT
  • I'd suggest they go ahead and rent the keg, bring in the dancers and be sure to invite the Muslem Student Forum to make sure there is a good cross-section of cultural appreciation.

  • Posted by JBM on September 22, 2006 at 2:55pm EDT
  • Too bad things have gotten to the point where some cannot distinguish between a strip club and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

  • MIT Strippers
  • Posted by jon-christian suggs , prof on September 22, 2006 at 5:00pm EDT
  • Q:
    What's the difference between a stripper and an MIT student?

    A:
    The stripper has no place to put his/her pocket pen protector

  • Posted by Joseph on September 23, 2006 at 3:35pm EDT
  • The funds that are intended to be used are the house funds of Simmons Hall. A large part of these funds come from taxes paid by the residents of the hall to the house for the purpose of being used for housewide events. There is no reason more procedural layers should be put in place.

    The agenda is posted ahead of time (this year at least, I assume it was last year as well but I'm not sure). The point is that a lot of people didn't care or couldn't make the meeting.

    Simmons is an undergrad dorm...so where does the graduate program come in?

    Great job on attempting to belittle people smarter than you by attacking their social skills. Most people give that up by 4th grade.

    But, eh, maybe if I go along with there being no difference between MIT and a strip club some hot girls might actually come to MIT...

  • Where Does the Money Come From?
  • Posted by kgotthardt on September 24, 2006 at 5:35am EDT
  • “Two other residence halls hire strippers on a more or less regular basis.” Yet the students who filed this proposal say it was a joke? Obviously, it was not a joke.

    Seems to me, house funds or not, if someone in the house is offended by it, there could be a legal problem, but who knows.

    Even more importantly, however: where do the funds come from? Are they included as part of general tuition and dorm costs? Are we talking about funds collected from Federal grants or student loans? Are we saying our financial aid program, supported by tax dollars, pays for strippers at MIT?

  • where the money comes from
  • Posted by simmons resident on September 24, 2006 at 11:00am EDT
  • Every semester each Simmons resident pays a 'house tax'. This semester it was 75 bucks I think.

    The couple dorms that have them on a regular basis...I would assume they have a similar system. The dorms are very autonomous, each one having a very unique system of gov't and personality.

  • Yes, But.....
  • Posted by kgotthardt on September 24, 2006 at 7:25pm EDT
  • ...where does the $75.00 come from? Out of students' pockets? From loan packages? From mom and dad?

  • where the money comes from
  • Posted by simmons resident on September 25, 2006 at 10:05pm EDT
  • Well, I would suppose it depends on your particular situation. Some people probably pay for it themselves, others their parents. I don't know about loan packages - my fin aid is all external.

    It's a mandatory fee, so someone's gotta pay for it.

  • When logical trains get derailed...
  • Posted by KGS on December 1, 2006 at 1:00pm EST
  • All in all, this is one of the beauties of the democratic process--assuming everyone has the potential to have a voice in the process, which seems to tbe the case...if the students don't like how the house is run (or not run) this action served its purpose...to prod students into action -- whether that be to change the rules or to get more-fully involved.

    Thanks Joseph, for clarifying many points, and graciously pointing out that assumption of a social-skills deficit in MIT men is uncalled for...so why continue down the low road Joe?, no need for more vitriol (ironic or not) asserting that smart MIT women aren't "hot"!

    IMHO, the hottest attribute is a big-fat brain with a sense of humor, and quick-wit enough to deflect ill-will; this being the case, MIT (or any Higher Ed campus) *should* a PlayBoy/PlayGirl mansion -- with or without pocket protectors.