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More Than a Mascot

U. of Illinois

Chief Illiniwek performs at an athletic event.

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Last summer, Vernon Burton gave lectures on history and the use of computing in humanities research at meetings in Britain and France. When he finished each talk, the first question wasn’t about his research, but about Chief Illiniwek, the mascot at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and why the university would keep a symbol that is offensive to American Indians.

“What people knew about the university was the chief, not the research and teaching here,” said Burton, a critic of the mascot and president of the Faculty Senate. On Friday, the university announced that Chief Illiniwek would make a final appearance at a men’s basketball game Wednesday — and then would be retired. “It’s a long nightmare that has ended at last,” Burton said.

For supporters of the chief mascot, of course, Friday was the nightmare, and the two sides dueled in press events, in court, and in the court of public opinion. But Burton and some others said that the issues for Illinois — by any academic measure a top public university — are much broader than the question of whether a student pretending to be an Indian dances for a few minutes at football and basketball games. The debate at Illinois, many say, has consumed time and attention of university leaders, influenced who is a university leader, hurt the institution’s reputation, and led to doubts about the role of shared governance.

“It’s long past time for this issue — and Illiniwek — to go away,” said a Chicago Tribuneeditorial on Saturday. “Over the years, the debate has occupied the time and energy of students, university administrators and trustees, alumni, the Illinois General Assembly, the U.S. Senate and at least two governors. All of them have more important things to worry about, such as studying for finals or running the country. The squabble over the chief is a distraction and a poor reflection on the state’s flagship academic institution.”

The announcement from the university — rumored for months to be imminent — walked a fine line between blaming the National Collegiate Athletic Association for the shift, and saying it was an independent decision. In 2005, the NCAA stunned Illinois and a group of other colleges by announcing that institutions that continued to use Native American symbols or imagery in ways that were hostile to American Indians would be barred from being the hosts of postseason tournaments or from participating in NCAA championships if such images appeared on uniforms worn by athletes or others involved in athletics when they participated.

Illinois was among the institutions that blasted the NCAA, and appealed its findings — winning a limited victory when the NCAA said that the name “Illini” was not problematic (it could refer to the state, not just a tribe). But the NCAA rejected the contention of Illinois (as well as some other colleges that use Native American imagery) that Chief Illiniwek was an honor for Native Americans.

Much of the Illinois announcement stressed that the decision to end the use of the chief removed the university from NCAA sanctions. But at the same time, the university statement said that the decision was the natural result of a “consensus process” that the Illinois board had pledged to use to resolve the chief issue. And an FAQ released by the university answered the question “Did the university cave to the NCAA?” with the answer No, and yet the same answer went on to note the penalties paid by the university for not being in compliance with the association’s rules.

The official statement also included much praise for the Chief Illiniwek tradition, and didn’t include any acknowledgment that the NCAA or American Indian groups might have had legitimate reasons not to want pretend Indians entertaining largely white crowds with Indian imagery. “The Chief Illiniwek tradition inspired and thrilled members of the University of Illinois community for 80 years,” said Lawrence C. Eppley, the board chair, in a statement. “It was created, carried on, and enjoyed by people with great respect for tradition.”

The chief first started performing at Illinois athletic events in 1926, and is best known for appearing during the halftime shows at football games. Students are selected to play the chief and many of those who have done so consider it a high point of their college experience. But while some colleges with Indian names have accused the NCAA of making an issue where none existed, that would be hard to claim at Illinois. Protests have been taking place on the campus since 1989, the chief’s role has been the subject of a critical PBS documentary and a scholarly book. At Illinois, criticism of the chief has been as strong as at any institution with an Indian name, but so too has been the activity of defenders of the tradition. (The University of North Dakota and Florida State University may have rallied with equal intensity, and the former is now in court with the NCAA while the latter won an appeal from the association.)

Carol Spindel, an adjunct in English at the university, has studied the Illinois mascot issue as much as anyone. Her book, Dancing at Halftime: Sports and the Controversy Over American Indian Mascots, focused on Illinois, but also covered many other institutions. (It was originally going to be published by the University of Illinois Press, but the topic was too hot to handle there, and the work landed at New York University Press and won strong reviews upon publication.)

Spindel said that she wasn’t certain why the issue became so divisive at Illinois, while other places were able to work through the issue with relative civility. She said that there has been politicization of the issue and “inept leadership.” She particularly faulted the university’s board for letting pro-mascot groups appear to be speaking for the university over the years, in opposition to Native Americans and their supporters. People who are associated with the fight against the chief have received fairly constant insults on campus, and sometimes far worse, Spindel said.

Southeast Missouri State University is among the many institutions that retired Indian names and Spindel attended a ceremony that marked the 2005 switch from “Indians” to “Redhawks,” and was struck by how many people mentioned the Illinois tensions. At the ceremony, Spindel said, “people were very upbeat and very positive about the future of their program, and they sad to me, ‘we’ve looked up the river at you, and we can’t afford to have our community divided and we can’t afford the lawsuits.’ “

While Spindel said that she was very pleased with the decision announced Friday, she wished there could have been more acknowledgment of the problems created by the chief over the years. “It’s too bad the University of Illinois couldn’t have used the retirement as a teachable moment to stress the importance of respect for all. This would have been especially valuable for non-Native students and might have helped to establish the atmosphere of respect the campus lacks,” she said.

The backlash against critics of the chief has been “very real” and has frequently reached the point of harassment, Spindel said, noting the recent furor over Facebook entries involving university students. One Facebook group that attracted over 110 members is titled “If They Get Rid of the Chief I’m Becoming a Racist.” One of its postings reads, “[W]hat they don’t realize is that there was never a racist problem before ... but now I hate redskins and hope all those drunk casino owning bums die.”

Another post states that one of the leaders of the movement to remove Chief Illiniwek is of Sioux descent. “I say we throw a tomohawk [sic] into her face.” The university is investigating the comments and — in an escalation typical of many of the Illiniwek debates — that inquiry has set off its own controversy. The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education is calling on the university to end its inquiry, saying that the Facebook threats were “hyperbolic” but not real threats since it is unlikely that those writing them intended to actually attack Native American students “with an antiquated weapon.”

Many faculty members believe that Nancy Cantor, who left the chancellor’s position at Urbana-Champaign in 2004 after only three years in office, was in an untenable position at Illinois because of the chief issue. By the time she arrived, the chief issue was firmly in the control of the board and she did not speak out on the chief specifically. But Cantor is known for speaking regularly about the importance of inclusiveness and equity and outreach to minority students — values that were taken by some of the chief’s supporters as some kind of disloyalty. Some of those supporters put up anti-Cantor billboards around town. (Cantor has attributed her departure not to the chief issue, but to her desire to take the position as chancellor of Syracuse University.)

Burton, the Faculty Senate president and director of the director of the Illinois Center for Computing in the Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences, was on the search committee that was created when Cantor left, and he said that some candidates who were approached declined to be considered because of the chief issue.

He also saw damage to the system of governance. The Faculty Senate repeatedly passed resolutions urging the board to drop the chief, but was largely ignored and moves for board action were aborted. “Shared governance fell down on the issue,” Burton said, although he also noted that he and other faculty leaders mentioned the question at meeting after meeting of the university board.

In the end, he said, the NCAA gave cover to the board to do the right thing, without fear of offending pro-chief alumni donors. “I know that there are many trustees who are great fans of the chief, and I appreciate their moral courage” in acting now, he added.

The chief has become a symbol for all kinds of things having nothing to do with education, Burton said. Many of those rallying around it saw the fight against the mascot as an issue of political correctness. “There is so much going on in society. People feel that their lives are being controlled by other people,” he said. “So to people who are upset about affirmative action or other issues, the chief becomes a symbol to hold onto,” he said. “I think we have to be sympathetic to understand that other people will not see this as a moral decision and an important educational decision.... People have given up something that is very dear to them and that they care very much about.”

But while Burton is sympathetic to their feelings, he is also worried about the lack of effort to put the chief in the context of history, and about the university not acceptingthe responsibility — even after ending the chief’s role — to do more to recruit and welcome students of all kinds.

“Let’s not fool ourselves. This nightmare for the university is over, but there is a reality that is much more important,” he said. White Americans have decided how Native Americans (and other non-white Americans) should be seen (and controlled) since Columbus, he said, and that history isn’t understood as it should be. At a university, “we need to focus much more on diversity of all kinds — of having people with different points of view, on freedom of speech, and providing access for people from different groups, both minority groups and white with less income,” he said.

Burton wants chief critics to be “very cautious” now, and to avoid thinking they have won some great victory when what they have really won was the most visible, but not necessarily the most important, battle.

Native American groups — at Illinois and elsewhere — took a similar approach. A statement from the Native American House at Illinois praised the decision, but added that “we know that retiring the performance of the mascot does not solve campus climate issues, and we will continue to work with the campus and the community to address misinformation and miseducation about indigenous peoples, histories, and cultures.”

The Oglala Sioux Tribe also praised the decision, but reiterated its demand that the regalia used by Chief Illiniwek be returned. The university has said that it purchased or was given various Sioux items used in the mascot’s performances, but tribal leaders say that they originally thought the university was borrowing items for use in historically accurate portrayals of their tribe, not for what the tribal board has called “the antics of persons playing ‘Chief Illiniwek’ ” in a way that “perpetuates a degrading racial stereotype that reflects negatively on all American Indian people.” (The university says that it hasn’t decided what it will do with the regalia.)

Supporters of the chief are not giving up their fight. Students who portray the chief were in state court on Friday trying to obtain an injunction to prevent the university from ending use of the mascot or the NCAA from pressuring it to do so. The students won sympathy, but not their desired injunction. An account of the hearing in a local paper quoted Judge Michael Jones as saying that the university had the option of suing the NCAA and made a decision not to. “Right or wrong, this is their call,” he said.

Where Jones was most sympathetic to the students was on their charge that the NCAA is hypocritical in permitting some institutions (such as Florida State University) to keep Indian mascots because they have backing from tribal leaders, while forcing Illinois and others to change.

“It’s an easy sell that enforcement of the policy is arbitrary and capricious,” the judge was quoted as saying. “They don’t wish to associate with members who use Native American imagery, unless, of course, they do.”

Supporters of the chief are studying additional legal options and standing by their tradition.

Pal Schmitt, a sophomore who is vice president of Students for Chief Illiniwek, grew up in central Illinois, coming to sporting events as a child and growing to love the tradition of the chief. “It’s something that outsiders of the university or people who aren’t of the state don’t understand,” he said. “Seeing the performance, you get the sense of dignity, of bravery, spirit, honor. It does really embody those things.”

Asked if the feelings of Native Americans should come into play, he said “of course,” but he said that “this is much bigger than race” and that both sides of the debate have ignored the issues raised by the other side. “Both sides are very guilty,” he said. “Those who are against it instantly brand anyone who would support it as a racist, and those who support it shrug off those concerns.”

Schmitt said that his message to an American Indian would be: “I’m sorry we can’t get the same inspiration out of it, but you need to look at the greater good that it is doing.”

Supporters of the chief stress that they love Native Americans and their culture. Jean Edwards, who graduated in 1953 and is treasurer of the Honor the Chief Society, has been working on the issue for 18 years, ever since opposition to the mascot started to grow. She said Friday that she was “heartbroken” and didn’t understand how supporters of the chief were seen as insensitive to American Indians.

The chief “has been giving something to the Native Americans that they haven’t had before — all these people who were interested in learning more” after seeing a performance. She said that she and her colleagues all feel great respect for Indian culture. “I’ve always like Native Americans. I have lived in Illinois all my life. Every summer growing up I went to Wisconsin and lived next door to a wonderful Native American couple. I bought a lot of jewelry. We went to a lot of pow-wows together,” she said. “I never thought of anyone not accepting them at all.”

She blamed the controversy on efforts to recruit Native American students. “There was this professor who wanted to get more Native American students to come to school here, so every year it got more and more important” for faculty members to talk about the chief, she said.

Edwards predicted that many alumni will stop giving. “I think the impact will be financial. There are people who honest to goodness believe that they will not give again,” she said.

That belief is shared by many at Illinois, even some critics of Chief Illiniwek who have said over the years that the university needed to find a way to prevent an alumni revolt. The irony is that most available evidence suggests that universities that move away from Indian names or mascots end up doing well. At Stanford University, the name Indians was replaced with Cardinal (the color, not the bird), in 1972, and officials are proud of having made the change early, based on complaints from a small group of Native American students, but not having been forced by the NCAA or anyone else.

The general pattern, according to officials at Stanford and institutions that made similar decisions, is for the noise and anger to quickly subside, except for very small groups of alumni. Richard Little, a Miami University spokesman who organized a mascot switch in 1996 (from Redskins to Redhawks), noted in a 2005 interview that the university sells more clothing now than it did with the old name, notwithstanding those fans who were upset about the change. He said that there is at least once sure way to win over most alumni: “You’ll get support for any name if you win.”

Scott Jaschik

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Illinois RetiresMascot for the Wrong Reasons

Lawrence Eppley, chair of the University of Illinois Board of Trustees, referring to the university’s mascot Chief Illiniwek, stated, December 2003, “Logically and historically, it is really tough to build a case for having it.“ It’s likely a Boy Scout dance, at best.” ”It’s a matter of when, rather than if…Illiniwek will be retired.”

More than 3 years later, Mr. Eppley finally did what is clearly in the best interest of the university; he ended the Chief Illiniwek tradition.

However, the way the university handled the mascot issue until now has been shameful. For sixteen years the Trustees denied the singular truth at the heart of this issue: “Indians are People Not Mascots”. Appeasing those who believe otherwise and perpetuating racial stereotyping was immoral and represented a gross failure by the Trustees.

The key now is how Mr. Eppley and the university Trustees will execute this long awaited decision. The educational, moral and ethical grounds have been clear for more than a decade. Will Eppley, the Trustees and university administration have the courage to acknowledge these as the legitimate motivation for removing Illiniwek, or will they hide behind the NCAA sanctions and posit blame elsewhere? Will they demonstrate the leadership and integrity this moment calls for, or will they promote further animosity and racial polarization? For certain, ending the university’s racial stereotyping of Native Americans is a huge positive act, but doing so for the right reasons could also foster a much-needed, respectful racial climate on the Champaign-Urbana campus. Unfortunately, thus far they have not taken the high road.

Stephen Kaufman, Professor Emritus at University of Illinois, at 8:45 am EST on February 19, 2007

the chief in bronze

Now, they are going to have to decide how to retire the chief. Whatever it’s worth, he is a part of the history of the place. Many years ago, some of us suggested beginning a new century by replacing the chief with a bronze statue in an unobtrusive place between the IMPE building and the Stadium. I hope it can happen now.

Tom Riley former faculty member and former Faculty Senate ChairUniversity of Illinois.

Tom Riley, Dean at NDSU, at 9:46 am EST on February 19, 2007

For All the Wrong Reasons

In the end the Chief wasn’t retired because he was found offensive by a non-existent Native American group. He was fired because the NCAA told Illinois they couldn’t host a NIT basketball round unless they did.

A shameful end to a shameful chain of events that should have been handled much better. The poor handling will hurt the University for years.

Bob Washburn, UI Alum and former staff member, at 9:51 am EST on February 19, 2007

Chief Charade

When he states that “Indians are people, not mascots,” Mr. Kaufman would have us believe that mascots are not people. Often they are both, and to support this exercise in political correctness on the part of the NCAA adds new meaning to the term “absent-minded professor.” It is well that you are retired, but regretably, many of your replacements have been imbued with the same narrow-mindedness that permeates the university environment.

Scott, at 10:10 am EST on February 19, 2007

Did U of I ever try to get an actual Native American to perform a traditional dance? This was a white guy dressed up as another race — the exact equivalent of minstrel shows dressing up in blackface to sing African American music. I grew up in Illinois, but I’ve never understood this controversy. I guess I’m just not enough of a yahoo.

It is my understanding that Florida State and North Dakota provide scholarships to members of the tribes they claim to represent. You could call this “buying off the Indians,” but at least they can demonstrate an affiliation.

Viejita del oeste, at 10:10 am EST on February 19, 2007

Doing the Right Thing

I’m not surprised when professional teams with offensive nicknames (the NFL entry in Washington, the American League franchise in Cleveland) ignore the appeals of those whose sensibilities they have wounded. But it is shocking when institutions of higher education, which are in an altogether different business, exhibit the same reaction. As more and more schools move away from demeaning mascots (kudos to Illinois for their belated action), one can only hope that the University of North Dakota and others of its ilk will begin to feel at least a small percentage of the shame that they have earned.

I’m sure we’ll see the usual babbling about political correctness show up on this thread at some point, as well as the predictable comment about how Hibernian-Americans are unaffected by Notre Dame’s use of the “Fighting Irish” moniker. Such responses, however, are no more relevant than the observation that not one alligator has yet objected to the use of his likeness by the University of Florida. This is not about who isn’t offended; it’s about who is, and whether their objections should be superseded by the preferences of defiantly nostalgiac (and often bigoted) alumni donors.

We certainly can (and do) argue about what level of offensiveness should be permitted on a college campus. But it’s sad to see universities sue for their right to give their official imprimatur to such bigotry. It’s one thing to stand up for the right of others to offend. It something altogether different to stand up for your own right to do so.

Unfortunately, it is difficult for most white Americans to appreciate the hurt caused by the inappropriate use of these symbols. Most terms demeaning to Caucasians simply lack any sting in an environment where white privilege is practically a birthright.

Instead, consider this thought exercise. What if a university decided to burn the American flag during the halftime show at every home football game? Millions would be outraged and/or offended by such an action. I would be one of them. We would all hope that such a school would immediately move to stop giving their official sanction to this sort of activity.

If you are deeply, personally offended when you see the flag being desecrated, then you understand the power of symbols to hurt and demean. And that is what at stake here—not political correctness, not free speech, but a university attaching its name and prestige to a gratuitously hurtful activity.

It needs to stop.

Unapologetically Tenured, at 10:16 am EST on February 19, 2007

The “Innocence” of Denial

I am in complete agreement with Professor Kaufman. I have written and spoken out against the chief for many years but he and others, especially members of the now established U of I Native American House and American Indian Studies program and supportive activist groups, deserve commendation for their moral persistence. Charlene Teters, the Spokane student who first stood outside the stadium in protest of the dehumanization of First Nations People so many years ago, has been a driving inspiration for many of us. Seeing the image of her all alone in the face of belligerent tailgaters In Jay Rosenstein’s film, “In Whose Honor?”, was profoundly moving to me.

In dramatic contrast, but no less dehumanizing, was what happened to me last month. While entering a local supermarket I was waved in ahead of a young woman and her daughter, maybe 6 or 7, who was riding in her shopping cart. The woman, who is white, smiled and said I could go ahead of them. I did and as they came in behind me I heard the woman cheerfully say to her daughter, “There goes Mr. Indian. They go woo-woo-woo!” I am Muscogee (Creek), 61 years old, a retired Social Services Administrator, author, artist, loving husband, father and grandfather of 4 who enjoys the respect of many who know me. Yet, in the blink of an eye I am Mr. Woo-woo-woo. Since she seemed friendly I went over to the young mother and asked if she would do me a favor. “Sure”, she said brightly. I asked if she would not perpetuate racial stereotypes about Indians with her daughter and she said, less brightly, “Sure.” But I wonder if she knew what I was talking about.

This is only one of many seemingly innocent encounters I have experienced over the years in the U of I community (there are many harsh ones). But it is telling that Ms. Edwards who says she is “heartbroken”, “always liked Native Americans” and “bought a lot of jewelry”, can be so blind to what they are supporting. It fits in with all those who like my “beautiful” hair, my evident spirituality etc. They are sorry about the “plight” of “your people” and don’t understand why I am not “honored” by their faux chief, who, according to Mr. Schmitt, “has been giving something to the Native Americans that they haven’t had before.” Oh, but we have had it before! Their dehumanization efforts are legion! As is their denial.

And to Mr. Schmitt, who said his message to an American Indian would be: “I’m sorry we can’t get the same inspiration out of it, but you need to look at the greater good that it is doing,” I say, “The inspiration we got was to push for his removal and you should not be sorry because his retirement is for the greater good of all people”, especially for that little girl in the shopping cart and her mother, because they live in the same world as my children and my brothers’ and sisters’ children.

Mvto.

redearth1, Urbana, IL, at 10:40 am EST on February 19, 2007

Its about time!!

My comments come as a observer and not in anyway associated with U of I....I live in Illinois and its very major city that has the UIC campus. Seems to me that maybe Illinois is suffering from this due to its native white cultural thinking ...meaning it’s the ‘MO’ of Illinois to treat ‘certain minorities with a certain amount of disrespect...its not surprising...plus its mostly run by old school racist white folks..In my city it known from the politics to education to racial profiling from the local police. I’m not sure why Illinois is so bad with regards to non whites and in particular African Americans....like in Chicago. Racial hate is a taught behavior and prejudice thinking very comment place from Southern Illinois to the most Northern locations. In my opinion this type of controversy is found in all State of Illinois run faculties from universities to humanitarian based pursuits with Chicago included. We as minorities find it as a nuisance and it’s a under current in a great deal of our dealings while being citizens of the state.

Many native minority Illinoisans leaves the state to find happiness in other states. I personally used to think Illinois was like the old South African nation and its exclusion thinking racial policies ...but I know that’s extreme example...yet many of my own personal friends and associates have had to find better educational opportunities, career opportunities and much better general dignified living conditions from other States. So the fight over Chief Illiniwek and U of I to me is humorous and just reflective of a very racial bias backward State...and yes... those who move away....do return....more ready to continue to fight for civil rights and minority issues such as this. Its about time that racist U of I retired that slap in the face to Indian people.....the fight however is just beginning....

Greg Harris, at 11:10 am EST on February 19, 2007

Chief Illiniwek: Never Meant to be a Mascot

Chief Illiniwek’s forced retirement brought sad news to our family and to many friends.

Ray Dvorak, the creator of Chief Illiniwek, was my wife Judy’s uncle by way of his 1936 marriage to her mother’s sister Florence shortly after his appointment as Director of Bands at the University of Wisconsin.

Over the years, Judy spent a considerable amount of time with the Dvoraks — more than usual following the 1948 train accident that not only took his conducting arm, but also leaving him with severe burns and serious injury to his left leg. After my marriage to Judy, he became my Uncle Ray and a dear friend as well.

Thanks to Aunt Florence, Judy and I came to know more than most about the history of Chief Illiniwek, especially after witnessing our aunt’s distress upon hearing of the campaign to retire the Chief in the early 1990s and her effort to provide the genesis of the idea behind Chief Illiniwek — thinking that as soon as people recognized the true origin of the Chief, all opposition would cease.

More importantly, my wife and I have intimate knowledge of a gifted man of noble purpose who, as a young assistant band director, worked with Coach Bob Zuppke to bring Chief llliniwek to life as a powerful symbol of the University of Illinois in 1926. This was just one of his many widely recognized life accomplishments, many of which came after his heroic return to conducting the University of Wisconsin band in 1950.

It is truly unfortunate that Chief llliniwek came to be thought of as a mascot. Regrettably, this kind of thinking worked to undermine the original meaning and intent of the Chief as a SYMBOL representing the finest qualities of the people of the State of Illinois.

Frank G. Splitt, Former Member at UIUC COEAB, at 11:50 am EST on February 19, 2007

They’re Going To ... Go ... All ... The ... Waaaaay!!!

Thank goodness for the bold action of the NCAA.

I assume their next objectives will include ...

1. telling Notre Dame they will have no NCAA-sponsored events until they cease and desist demeaning those whose ancestry has roots in Ireland (the following image is from an attachment to the NCAA’s web-site)

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yim...I/yhst-48235246003493_1937_381980759

and

2. do everything in their power to prevent the Washington Redskins, Kansas City Chiefs, the Minnesota Vikings (and probably the new Orleans Saints) from recruiting NCAA athletes.

http://www.proflagsandbanners.com...n_redskins_house_flag_7773_prd1.html

Redskins indeed!

Frizbane Manley, at 12:20 pm EST on February 19, 2007

A terrible message to its white students...

Absent from the official UIUC response is any mention of the ethical reasons for eliminating the “Chief.” Labeling Chief Illiniwek as a positive tradition, the University of Illinois Board of Trustees has done little to address the racism of this “tradition.” Chief Illiniwek may be finished. However, racism, stereotyping, and oppression seem to unfortunately be going strong amongst the University of Illinois Board of Trustees. The board seems more concerned with losing money from alumni and re-gaining access to lucrative post-season collegiate athletics.

This sends a terrible message to all white students at UIUC. The University and its Board have made it clear that listening to people of color and their allies does not matter. Nowhere in the UIUC press release is it mentioned that the Chief was a racist caricature that stereotyped Native Americans.

Eric Stoller, Higher Education Technology Consultant, at 1:15 pm EST on February 19, 2007

Clarification

This article does a very good job of summarizing a long and complicated political battle. I’d like to clarify one point, however. The article says that the NCAA announcement of its list in 2005 stunned Illinois. Illinois students and fans were stunned to discover they were out of compliance with intercollegiate sports, but leadership at Illinois and the other affected schools had been involved in a long and deliberative process with the NCAA that began with a self-evaluation and lasted for several years. So the leadership might have been disappointed with the outcome but they could not have been surprised.

Many schools made changes during this process. The recruitment of Seminole students at Florida State (mentioned in another commentary) began during the NCAA evaluation process.

Finally, the Fighting Irish. Three points. One, a leprecaun is a mythical creature. More importantly, Two, Irish Americans have held positions of power at Notre Dame throughout its history and have also played a big part in its athletic program. So if Irish Americans wanted to change or retire the mascot and/or name, they could have done so from within at any time. Three, Native American leaders, in response to this question, said years ago that if an Irish American group objected to the characterization, they would stand by them. To my knowledge, no Irish American group has raised objections to the name or mascot.

Carol Spindel, author of Dancing at Halftime at University of Illinois, at 1:15 pm EST on February 19, 2007

I’ve Been Clarified

Needless to say, Ms. Spindel, you’re right. So I suggest they change their slogan to “The Fightin’ Leprechauns.”

Will you go for that?

Frizbane Manley, at 1:50 pm EST on February 19, 2007

Oh Frisbane, what is your point? Why change the name to Leprechans if no group seriously objects in the first place to “the Fighting Irish"? The point is, a lot of people DID object to the Chief.

I’ll just add my own sadness to the further point made well by others above that the U of IL acted with cowardice by writing a statement or retirement for the Chief that acknowledges none of the points made by those who objected to the mascot’s demeaning racism.

willie mink, at 2:45 pm EST on February 19, 2007

How About The Sputtering Studebakers

My point, willie mink, is that this is a matter of the NCAA – hardly my favorite organization in any sense – stepping into territory that should be off limits. And they have so much money they can throw their weight around with reckless abandon ... just so long as they don’t step on the toes of the “big guys” (for the NCAA, read that “the money makers”).

To the best of my knowledge there has been no outcry against the University of North Dakota being the Fighting Sioux ... just as there has been no outcry of residents of Ireland against Notre Dame University being the Fighting Irish.

So, when it comes to the NCAA, it all depends on which UND you happen to be.

Frankly, I’m voting for the Notre Dame University Sputtering Studebakers.

Frizbane Manley, at 4:30 pm EST on February 19, 2007

Chief Illiniwek: hypocrisy, political correctness, and greed

I think all of the controversy and criticism behind Chief Illiniwek, the mascot at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, smacks of hypocrisy, political correctness, and greed. [Prof. Burton, a critic of the mascot and president of the Faculty Senate. On Friday, the university announced that Chief Illiniwek would make a final appearance at a men’s basketball game Wednesday — and then would be retired. “It’s a long nightmare that has ended at last,” Burton said.] What sanctimonious BS! Where were you in the 80 years that this symbol previously existed? Assuming Prof. Burton and his ilk have been at UIUC for many, many years, where was their outrage previous to the NCAA (greed, greed, and more greed) announced its “dismay” over offensive mascots. If the NCAA is so offended, it should not allow its “student” athletes and schools to participate in the NFL (Redskins, Chiefs), MLB (Indians), or NHL (Black Hawks) drafts.

Bob Washburn’s comment summed it up best: “In the end the Chief wasn’t retired because he was found offensive by a non-existent Native American group. He was fired because the NCAA told Illinois they couldn’t host a NIT basketball round unless they did.” That was the last straw that stirred the Chief Illiniwek drink. Make no mistake about it.

As for “Unapologetically Tenured’s” comment, [“Unfortunately, it is difficult for most white Americans to appreciate the hurt caused by the inappropriate use of these symbols. Most terms demeaning to Caucasians simply lack any sting in an environment where white privilege is practically a birthright.”] why not sate your racial or ethnic background? Your tenure gives you immunity from everything short of murder, so why not be honest about your background? You are a hypocrite and a coward.

College Administrator, at 4:30 pm EST on February 19, 2007

Dear College Administrator—what are you assuming about U T’s background? That he or she is white, or non-white?

I’m white myself, and agree wholeheartedly with that person’s statement. It’s taken me a long time just to begin to understand how blind white privilege has made me (also true of male and heterosexual privilege).

As for denouncing something as “political correctness,” don’t you know what a pall of idiocy you cast over yourself when you do that? Argue the case at hand, instead of lumping it into some fabricated opponent’s non-existent agenda.

willie mink, at 5:15 pm EST on February 19, 2007

A Couple of Responses

“To the best of my knowledge there has been no outcry against the University of North Dakota being the Fighting Sioux...”

Guess again: http://www.und.nodak.edu/org/bridges/history.html

It’s usually my policy not to feed the trolls, but I do have one reaction to “College Administrator": I hope that wherever his or her cubicle may be, it is not within the college’s Office of Equal Opportunity.

Unapologetically Tenured, at 4:25 am EST on February 20, 2007

Get your definitions right

Mr Splitt:

With all due respect, however well-intended his origins might have been — the Chief is a farcical stereotype based on ignorance. While one might think that he’s supposed to look proud and noble, all one needs to do is look at that ridiculous dance that he does and his wooden stereotype arm position to see that he’s nothing more than an “injun” version of of someone in blackface.

Furthermore, a mascot by the very definition of the word “mascot” is a symbol. (Look it up.)

Robert, at 3:05 pm EST on February 20, 2007

Shadows of an ugly rethoric

We would do well to consider the rhetoric surrounding the civil rights movement in general and the flying of the confederate flag in particular. Those among us who defend the chief might be horrified to find their words echoing the defenders of the confederate flag as a symbol of a proud way of life. Those of us raising our voices against the hurtful charade of the chief might find inspiration.

jlford, at 3:55 am EST on February 21, 2007

Unapologetically Tenured —

The “Office of Equal Opportunity” that you speak of, is that the department that distributes ‘minority privileges’?

eddy, at 1:15 pm EST on February 21, 2007

Hypocrisy and the NCAA

I would challenge anyone who thinks the NCAA is behind the “right thing” in this situation. The NCAA is a money driven institution and is willing to make this political statement, but only with exceptions.

Read the fine print and you would find that these restrictions for hosting NCAA sanctioned events and post season tournaments by Universities that use native American names or symbols applies to all sports EXCEPT Division-I Football and Basketball. Not to rain on anyone’s parade but the only sports that make money at most colleges is Football and Basketball.

Nice try NCAA. Next time you want to make a point, get a little backbone behind your effort.

Brett Hersom, Social Science at Mahomet-Seymour High School, at 5:51 pm EST on February 21, 2007

reality check

I hope the chief comes back because with his departure I will rocket up the basektball ticket waiting list when current season ticket holders don’t re-new and I may have to fork over tons of bucks for season tickets.

Same goes for the smoking ban we now have in town. I wish restaurant smoking came back to C-U...I’d eat out alot less too.

Come on people get real. There may be a dip in funds in the short term but the void will be filled. I’ll gladly do my part and I’ll certainly feel more comfortable sitting through halftime at football and basketball games.

That said, money is not even the real issue at hand. It’s merely the smoke and mirrors play by the pro-chief supporters, NCAA haters and the university to avoid the real discussion. I have no doubt that pro-chief folks believe they are being honorable. However honorable the intentions the reality is quite different.

Retiring the chief is simply the first step in addressing issues at U of I. There is much work to be done. It will be interesting to see if this is considered a one and done event or if this will be an ongoing issue addressed by the larger community. Time will tell. Based upon how the BOT talks about this issues I suspect this will be one and done. The local campus will be left to clean up the mess — thanks BOT for setting us up for success.

And with respect to the NCAA. Membership is voluntary — join the NAIA perhaps? If you choose to not follow membership guidelines you are not elgible for the benefits of membership.

another college administrator, at 11:06 am EST on February 22, 2007

The NCAA has no credibility. Florida State can keep Seminoles, despite the war-painted chief who throws a flaming spear and Tomahawk Chop imagery.

Accept that and then decide other uses of Indian logos are hostile or abusive and then you’ll realize what a laughingstock this organization is.

Bordertown Boy, at 4:25 pm EST on February 22, 2007

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