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California's Transfer 'Mismatch'

June 8, 2007

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Latino students are more likely than others to start their college educations at community colleges. A new report from California documents the difficulties many of those students have moving on to four-year institutions and draws attention to the long-term impact low transfer rates could have on Latino degree achievement.

The report finds "an ongoing mismatch" between Latino students' goals (many of those who enroll at community colleges aspire to transfer) and what actually happens to these students. The report, "An Examination of Latina/o Transfer Students in California's Postsecondary Institutions," was prepared by the Chicano Studies Research Center at the University of California at Los Angeles.

Using data from various state agencies, the report notes that the overwhelming majority of Latino college students enroll in the state's community colleges. Of every 100 first-time Latino students, 75 enter community colleges, while 17 enter California State University campuses and 8 enter University of California campuses. Of the 75 at community colleges, only about 7 on average will transfer -- 6 to Cal State campuses and 1 to a University of California campus.

While many community college students don't necessarily want four-year degrees, the study found that the rates of transfer are significantly below what they should be, based on students' stated goals. At the point Latino students enter community colleges, 40 percent say that they aspire to transfer to a four-year institution, and another 28 percent say that they are undecided.

The low transfer rates are one explanation for the widening gap between the percentage of Latino students that the report found in different sectors of higher education. Those gaps are particularly important as Latino students are expected by next year to make up a majority of those in the state's elementary and secondary schools.

Latino Students' Share of California Enrollments

  1995 2000 2003
K-12 33% 43% 47%
Community colleges 25% 29% 31%
California State U. 20% 24% 25%
U. of California 14% 13% 14%

The report cites data to make the point that these gaps not only affect enrollments at the undergraduate level, but at the doctoral level as well. Between 1990 and 2000, the report found that 23 percent of Chicano doctoral recipients had started their educations at community colleges, a far larger percentage than was the case for other ethnic and racial groups, for which the figures were: Puerto Ricans at 6 percent, Native Americans at 19 percent, black students at 10 percent and white students at 11 percent.

The report urged state officials to insist on a "transfer culture" -- both at community colleges and at the four-year institutions that could enroll the two-year graduates.

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Comments on California's Transfer 'Mismatch'

  • Posted by Austin on June 8, 2007 at 12:30pm EDT
  • Separating UC's flat enrollment does serve dramatic effect, but this is, at best, poor design and, at worst, misleading.

    According to the two and one half page ‘report’, from 1995 to 2003 Latino student community college percentages increased 6 points or 24%. Over this same period, Latino university enrollment at California State University increased 5 points or 25% and was essentially flat at the University of California.

    There are over 100 universities in California. Why do the authors compare aggregate data from K-12 and community colleges but reference only two universities?

    Do the authors suggest that California community college students transfer only to the University of California and California State University?

    A more accurate comparison should include the total aggregate California Latino university enrollment or, at the least, a proven representative sample.

    A topic of this importance deserves better research design and editorial judgment; anything less calls into question the quality of such work or the character of its intentions.

  • Posted by David on June 8, 2007 at 1:20pm EDT
  • I agree that leaving out transfers to independent colleges and universities is a flaw of the study. Many of these institutions have significant Latina/o enrollments. Not including them may reflect some preconceived notions on the part of the researchers.

    On the other hand, the sheer size of the CSU and UC systems dwarfs the private sector in California higher education, so I doubt that adding the independent sector would change the overall statistics significantly. What would be more interesting would be if the researchers could determine what percentage of Latina/o students enrolling at community colleges intend to transfer, as opposed to the percentage enrolling in vocational or certificate programs. Unfortunately, this is extremely difficult to determine from the data available. It's relatively simple to find out how many students are enrolled; what those students' intentions are is much more difficult to determine - and frequently changes over the course of their CCC enrollment.

    From a public policy perspective, the Master Plan for higher ed in California designates transfer from community colleges to the two senior public university systems as a goal, so it is appropriate to examine how well that goal is being achieved for this group of students.

  • University systems
  • Posted by former Californian on June 8, 2007 at 2:35pm EDT
  • Austin: the California State Universities and Universities of California are systems, not individual universities.

    There are 23 Cal States and 10 UCs.

  • Posted by Peter on June 8, 2007 at 2:35pm EDT
  • This is pretty much a terribly designed and misleading study designed to promote a racial agenda (note where it comes from). First of all, the comparison of the entire K-12 population includes students in K-3, which demographically is much more heavily skewed towards Latino students...yet this entire K-12 population is compared to the entire CC population, which has 50% of its students over the age of 25, which demographically is much more white. They should have compared the % of graduating HS seniors with 18 year olds in each system...but that would have minimized the impact of their issue. Second of all, student self-reported goal in CC is a poor measure of true intent...they may claim to be degree-seeking, but most are remedial students not even in the realm of seeking a degree. Third, a greater % of Latino students are remedial, which makes their preparation poor. Finally, Latino students are far more likely to get an AA/AS/certificate in a CC and not transfer, but that is never mentioned in this report...once again, only a Bachelors-PHD is valued. And, as stated earlier, only transfer to a 4-yr public is counted/valued, yet Latino students attend Phoenix/National/DeVry/Chapman more than they go to UC...primarily because UC/CSU doesnt offer online degrees or allow you to go part-time easily. More importantly than support programs in transfer attainment is preparation, and the paper supplies no causal connection between support programs and degree attainment. Implementing IGETC as the default curriculum at CCC's is a ridiculous proposition for the 80% of students who go there for purposes other than transferring to CSU and UC.

  • Student Intention
  • Posted by Keokea on June 8, 2007 at 5:50pm EDT
  • Reliance on stated student intention of goal has not worked very well in community college research. Even Cohen's Transfer Assembly Project at UCLA eschewed stated goal in favor of a behavioral measure of student intent. The approach taken in this research report is naive and only serves to obfuscate the examination of an important topic.

  • Posted by Patrick Perry , Vice Chancellor at CCC System Office on June 8, 2007 at 8:50pm EDT
  • The CCC System Office has more refined data than what was used in the study, and many of the other postings above are correct. I ran some numbers and found the following:

    -04-05 12th Grade %Hispanic: 38% (CDE Dataquest)

    -04-05 CCC First Time Freshman %Hispanic: 38% (there is no underrepresentation of Hispanic students in the CCC system compared with the exiting HS class)(CCC MIS System)

    [Essentially, the comparison of ALL K-12 students with ALL CCC students is very misleading, and poor research design by the authors. Kindergartners in K-12 are 52% Hispanic, but Kindergartners arent exactly enrolling in a UC/CCC/CSU in the following year, only 12th graders are.]

    -most current cohort of students found to have "behavioral intent to get a degree/certificate/transfer" in CCC's, %Hispanic: 25% (CCC ARCC Accountability Report)[using student self-stated goal is very suspect; this is why most CC researchers know that using behavioral markers of intent are far more valid]

    -04-05 %Hispanic, students who earned an AA/AS/Certificate in a CCC: 28% (overrepresented in relation to % degree-seeking, showing that yes, Hispanic students have a greater propensity to get AA/AS/Certs)

    -04-05 %Hispanic who transferred: 21% (not too much below % degree seeking...and if you combine AA/AS/Certif earning with transfer, its right on par with the 25% degree-seeking figure). ALSO NOTE: %Hispanic who transferred in 94-95 was 13%...this has grown from 13% to 21% in 10 years, which shows a significant increase.

    All in all, the CCC system is well represented by Hispanic students, both in participation and outcome attainment relative to degree-seeking populations. The authors seem to want to advance an agenda of failure within the CCC system when they should be celebrating the success of Hispanic students who have a greater % of remedial needs than other populations. Why they have chosen to portray the success of these students in this manner is a mystery as the continued portrayal and imagery of failure propagated in this study only serves to further ingrain negativity and despair to the very students they seek to assist.

  • The Propaganda of Numbers Again
  • Posted by Cliff Adelman at Institute for Higher Education Policy on June 11, 2007 at 2:05pm EDT
  • It's an unfortunate rule of our environment: people who want to tell you a bad story will always find some numbers to do it. Due diligence is called for.