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June 8, 2007

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With the main campus adjacent to the Rio Grande and between two international bridges, the University of Texas at Brownsville and Texas Southmost College sit at an intersection in the intransigent immigration tug-of-wars. But never before did officials worry that the institution itself, an integrated community college and university that share a physical plant, could literally be tugged apart, one campus separated from another by new border fencing planned for the valley.

The federal government's plans, as shared with university officials, show the fence tracking the levee, said President Juliet V. Garcia. And under those plans, the institution's International Technology, Education and Commerce Campus (ITEC), a mile west of main campus, would fall on the levee's, and the fence's, Mexican side -- despite being on U.S. soil in Brownsville, Texas (albeit on Mexico Boulevard).

"It's silly to imagine that you would disenfranchise a whole part of the university or the community by an arbitrary decision," Garcia said. "I think it needs to be thought through with more precision."

In addition to housing undergraduate classes, the ITEC campus, based in a former mall the university purchased and converted in 2002, serves as a center for technology training and business development -- and, ironically, houses an office for the Mexican consulate. "When we say that we are on the southernmost tip of the U.S., we really are," said Garcia. "We've always seen that as very advantageous."

"To us, the idea of a fence is kind of aberrant behavior, and against what we have established ourselves to be: a place where we convene discussion and economic systems and languages and people, not separate them." The fence, Garcia said, would conflict with the university's mission regardless of whether it splits one campus from another -- but when asked what would happen if that possibility were to be realized, she could only laugh at the ridiculousness so as not to get upset. The institution has not yet received a response to their concerns from Border Control, she said.

“To the extent that we can get input from local officials …and incorporate that input into our planning process, we’re willing to do that," said Russ Knocke, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security. "However, input from local officials cannot usurp the expertise and the experience of our Border Patrol."

The fencing would be constructed as part of the Secure Border Initiative, a multi-pronged immigration control strategy that consists of increasing the number of enforcement agents, installing traditional fencing, and using “virtual fencing” technologies, based upon the use of ground-based radar and sensors, along with unmanned aerial vehicles, Knocke said.

In recent meetings with South Texas officials, Customs and Border Control personnel did share a map that outlined plans for the proposed (old-fashioned) fence, Knocke said -- but he stressed that the final decision for its location has not been made. “That process of making a final decision about where we would rely on traditional fencing as compared to virtual technologies or vehicular barriers is ongoing, but it’s something that we’re very much committed to, and it’s something that we’re going to move quickly in developing,” he said.

About 85 miles of traditional fencing have been built this year, Knocke said, with 370 miles to be built by the end of 2008. The fencing plans have come under fire not just from college officials, but also environmentalists and landowners.

Meanwhile, on the faculty level, no formal action regarding the fencing plan has been taken or considered at this time, said Karen Fuss-Sommer, president of the Academic Senate and director of the vocational nursing program at UT Brownsville and Texas Southmost. "We’re quite used to living proximal to the river, but we haven’t heard anything formal as to how that could impact us.”

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Comments on A Fence Could Run Through It

  • Fence
  • Posted by Craig C , political pundit at http://blogresponder.blogspot.com on June 8, 2007 at 8:25am EDT
  • Garcia says "...the idea of a fence is kind of aberrant behavior..."
    The aberrant behavior is the crossing into the US by unauthorized individuals that requires the building of the fence. If she can show that the University can somehow guarantee that will not happen...
    But of course she can't.

  • Wrong Focus
  • Posted by John on June 8, 2007 at 9:45am EDT
  • Rather than focus on the insignificant particulars of the language, let's focus on the fence--the one that may divide a campus, both sides of a future fence on American soil.
    Image: Keystone Cops.

  • Southernmost tip of USA?
  • Posted by Jack Olson on June 8, 2007 at 10:10am EDT
  • President Juliet Garcia remarked, "When we say we are on the southernmost tip of the U.S., we really are."

    Brownsville lies on the 26th parallel, while several college campuses in Hawaii are south of the 22nd parallel. If it is some sort of advantage to attend a college located as far south as possible, as Garcia claims it is, wouldn't one be better off to go to college in Hilo? You might find a college whose president can pass an elementary school geography test.

  • I Agree With Garcia ... And With Craig
  • Posted by Frizbane Manley on June 8, 2007 at 10:10am EDT
  • Upon reading this, my first thought was, “What’s the big deal? Walls and fences are in the great tradition of American higher education ... and especially when they’re buried under healthy stands of ivy.” None other than the author of our Constitution personally designed such a wall and had it constructed at the University of Virginia. Check out the sixth frame in the following PowerPoint slide show and you’ll understand my perspective.

    http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/talks/bit/bit.pdf

    http://www.katiereynolds.com/photos/v/homebase/u2.jpg.html

    According to Craig, “The aberrant behavior is the crossing into the US by unauthorized individuals ...” But we all know a fence won’t keep them out ... walls and fences are easy to circumvent. I’m voting for sandbag bunkers armed with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenade launchers. That solution will be much less expensive than a fence, much easier to maintain, and much more effective.

    Let’s bring the Guard (and Halliburton) back from that other place and let them do what they were expected to do in the first place; i.e., protect us from those “aberrants” who really are trying to “follow us home and destroy the American way of life.”

  • Posted by Barb on June 8, 2007 at 10:30am EDT
  • Why can't they just move the fence line if it's only a mile away? Sounds like the campus part in question is indeed on US soil, it shouldn't be cut off.

  • Posted by voice of cynicism on June 8, 2007 at 11:15am EDT
  • Hey, if you put a part of the campus on the Mexican side of the fence, aren't you in effect ceding that part to Mexico? Gaining territory from the U.S. without fighting a war--or even negotiating--that's a great deal for Mexico!

  • Border Fence
  • Posted by MS on June 8, 2007 at 11:15am EDT
  • I grew up in Browntown and many years ago took a summer school course at Texas Southmost College. Last weekend, on a visit to my old stomping grounds, I had a late dinner in Mexico (as I have hundreds of times). Garcia laughs at the border fence idea because, to anyone familiar with the comings and goings of persons on the U.S.-Mexico border, the idea is laughable. (The idea of a similar fence on the U.S.-Canada border is downright hilarious.) The fence--real or virtual--will line the pockets of a few contracters (nothing new there), but it won't even slow the movement of students and workers and late-night diners.

  • Come on in!
  • Posted by Laura on June 8, 2007 at 11:15am EDT
  • Personally I'd like as many people to try to cross our southern borders as possible.
    Think about it: everyone's worried that "these people" are going to sneak into our country and steal or jobs right? But that's what the people who are already here did several generations ago, we all know that. This might be one of the only countries in the world (do they do this in Australia?) where people identify themselves by their principle country of ancestry as easily as identifying themselves as citizens of their home country (I have never had a problem telling people "I'm Irish" even though that heritage extends back to my grandmother's grandmother at the nearest. My friends are "Italian", "German", "Sweedish", "Greek" or "Puerto Rican". What are you?).
    If I'm beaten out for a job by an "illegal immigrant" maybe that worker has something I don't, like the strength of character and determination necessary to get past the US Border Patrol and hide from the feds in order to be allowed to wash dishes for less than minimum wage. That kind of grit, determination and fierce belief in free enterprise is what made America great. It will continue to define our national character long after the current wave of imigrants have gone as soft as the previous one.

  • Frizbane Manley
  • Posted by Craig C , political pundit at http://blogresponder.blogspot.com on June 8, 2007 at 11:40am EDT
  • You wrote: "But we all know a fence won’t keep them out ... walls and fences are easy to circumvent"

    In the areas where the fence has been built (San Diego), the Illegals have had to find other means of entry. Your statement is incorrect on the face of it.
    But thanx for the back door anti Iraq War stuff. I guess that goes with the territory.

  • Posted by Scott Nicol on June 8, 2007 at 12:30pm EDT
  • One aspect that was left out of the article is the affect of the Real ID Act on the construction of a Border Wall. It states, "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall have the authority to waive all legal requirements such Secretary, in such Secretary’s sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads under this section." In California it was used to suspend all laws that might slow construction, including the Endangered Species Act and Clean Water Act, and also covers private property laws that landowners and the University might use to challenge the wall. Anything behind the wall, including the buildings of the University of Texas Brownsville, will be inaccessible, as the whole point of the wall is to impede the free flow of people (setting aside the actual political intent of the Secure Border Fence Act, passed two weeks ahead of the mid term elections). Those of us who live along the lower Rio Grande are horrified by the environmental, social, and economic destruction that this new Berlin Wall will bring.

  • For Craig ...
  • Posted by Frizbane Manley on June 8, 2007 at 12:45pm EDT
  • Not "anti-Iraq War stuff" ... "misuse of the National Guard stuff."

    Let's steer clear of the war against the people of Iraq if you don't mind.

  • Ignore the borders, that's worked well
  • Posted by Billa on June 8, 2007 at 1:20pm EDT
  • First, I don’t believe that the border patrol has the legal right and/or obligation to cede control of part of the United States to Mexico. The Congress is the only power that may cede control of American soil to another Country. So it appears that some other processes are going on.

    Secondly, the need for the fence may be dubious to some, but the reality is that many Americans belief it is time to gain control over our borders, so any person that has no legal right to be here can’t just walk, drive or climb a fence and do as they please. Simply, it doesn’t follow the laws of the land. We abide by the laws or we don’t. We all know where that may lead! If you disagree, then do your best to change such. Whether you think it is ridiculous or about time, we have an ongoing problem brewing with illegals. Legal immigration may be a boondoggle, but it is the legal way to enter the USA to partake of the American way of life.

    To many Mexicans and other Latino’s, the United States represents a life that is infinitely better than they can ever imagine in their native land. That, in itself doesn’t give anyone from another nation the right to walk over our border and live here, partake of our social programs or go and come as they please. Whether they are itinerants, criminals or terrorists, entering the United States illegally, it is a crime. Living here for years illegally, compounds the crime. Ignoring criminal behavior is exactly why we find ourselves in this position. After all, the American government and its citizens choose to ignore the crime and corruption rampant in Mexico and farther south that drain the economies of those countries. This has been the driving force for most of the illegals in the first place!!!

    The U of Texas -Brownsville sits in a position of trying to serve two cultures. Who are the tax payers supporting the University? I imagine the tax payers of Texas would rather support citizens or legal immigrants

  • WTF(rack)?
  • Posted by L.L. on June 8, 2007 at 2:35pm EDT
  • " .. After all, the American government and its citizens choose to ignore the crime and corruption rampant in Mexico and farther south .. "

    So .. the U.S. is supposed to invade Mexico? Ha! That's a gut-busting laugh! Most of their army is here, snuck under the strong border defenses of the Clinton-Bush era (LOL).

    Just amazing, how those knees jerking left complain about one thing (Iraq), then it is on to Dafur and Mexico. No wonder, U.S. military morale is so low -- it is a SNAFU, everywhere.

    Ditto for anyone, concerned about rule of law. Hey, fellow legals, let's not pay our taxes -- if we get 12.5 million, we can get the same deal! And higher ed will have to put out collection baskets!

  • Bill Olsen's comment
  • Posted by Jaime on June 8, 2007 at 2:35pm EDT
  • Hey Bill,

    I think you misunderstood Ms. Garcia's comment about being the farthest south... she meant the farthest south in the continental United States...hello... One more step south and you'll be in Mexico.

  • Does She Know What the Word Means?
  • Posted by Stu Gittelman on June 8, 2007 at 4:40pm EDT
  • President Garcia said, “It’s silly to imagine that you would disenfranchise a whole part of the university or the community by an arbitrary decision,” Garcia said. “I think it needs to be thought through with more precision.”"

    I'm hard pressed to see how this fence will prevent any member of college community currently entitled to vote from voting in any election after the fence is built.

    If this kind of hand wringing histerics wasn't so typical, I would've thought these quotes were lifted from a spoof in The Onion.

  • Environmental Impact Of Wall Would Be Negligible
  • Posted by Scrawed on June 20, 2007 at 7:00pm EDT
  • "Those of us who live along the lower Rio Grande are horrified by the environmental, social, and economic destruction that this new Berlin Wall will bring." - Scott Nicol

    I'm laughing so hard I can barely type. Gee, Scott, what about the envirnomental devastation that millions of border crossers have already wrought? What about the trails? What about the trash they discard? Gee, isn't a good part of the proposed barrier designed to protect the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument?