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July 23, 2007

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A few weeks ago, Yale University undergraduate David Light showed his collection of 11 guns to Christopher Keefer, who was visiting with his brother at the off-campus Beta Theta Pi fraternity house.

Then, at about 3 a.m. on Friday, July 13, gun shots rang out in the house. Keefer, who is in the Air Force, rushed to the living room, where he'd heard the shots. There, according to police reports, he found a visibly intoxicated Light with a gun in his hand and shell casings on a nearby table. Light responded to Keefer’s requests to put the gun down by firing two rounds of blanks at the ceiling and when Keefer tried to convince Light that blanks could also be dangerous, Light allegedly responded, “Why don’t I point it at your head to find out?”

When Light was arrested, a student who had stayed in the house for a few days and who had seen Light with suspicious-looking guns told the Yale Daily News , “it fell into place … I felt foolish that I didn't tell someone.”

Yale police arrested Light last Monday, charging him with unlawful discharge of a firearm, two counts of illegal possession of assault rifles, reckless endangerment in the first degree, threatening in the second degree and breach of peace in the second degree.

Since the April murders at Virginia Tech, politicians have been talking about the danger of mentally ill students on college campuses. Receiving less attention has been the issue of guns in fraternities, and in some cases, the results have been tragic.

Karl Joseph Hansen, a member of Pi Kappa Alpha at Kettering University, in Flint, Mich., was shot and killed at a party in an off-campus apartment shared by fraternity brothers. The shooter was one of his fraternity brothers, who was playing with the gun, which belonged to another brother, who had left it out. The gun accidentally discharged.

For the campus of 2,400 undergraduates, about a third of whom belong to fraternities and sororities on a campus that is 85 percent male, the death hit hard. “It was one of the saddest funerals I’ve ever attended … on a small campus the loss is felt particularly strongly,” Pat Mroczek, a spokeswoman said. “There was a large contingent of members of the Greek community there, mourning Karl.”

The university, she said, will evaluate its gun policies in the coming months. It already bans weapons in dorms and on university property.

In November, while investigating the shooting of a homeless man in an alley behind several fraternity houses at Oregon State University in Corvallis, police found more than two dozen guns at the Alpha Gamma Rho house and in members' cars, only some guns stored in secured places.

During the investigation, members told police they were frustrated that transients entered the house without permission and at least two told police they had shot at transients with BB guns.

In April, after pleading guilty to weapons and assault charges, Alpha Gamma Rho member Joshua Grimes was sentenced to 150 days in jail, three years of probation, $3,000 in fines and 400 hours of community service at a homeless shelter.

The fraternity, on its part, now requires members’ guns to be stored in a safe and for the president and House Dad to be present when the safe is unlocked for a member taking out his gun. Members can no longer store guns in their cars.

Over the last few years, fraternity members at Dartmouth College, the University of California at Berkeley and the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor have gotten in trouble for shooting BB guns at members of their fraternities or unsuspecting people on campus.

Fraternity members are not the only undergraduates who own guns, but Greeks are more likely to own them.

While 5.2 percent of fraternity and sorority members surveyed in the 2001 Harvard School of Public Health College Alcohol Survey owned guns, 4.1 percent of non-Greek undergraduates were gun owners.

Matthew Miller, an assistant professor of health policy and management at Harvard University and the primary author of the study , said that “the kinds of behavior that students who have guns exhibit are also the kinds of behavior that students in fraternities often demonstrate,” listing binge drinking, driving while intoxicated and “general aggression” as behaviors associated with fraternity members.

“There’s a decent chance that at any school where students have guns, members would be more likely to have guns than other students,” Miller said. “And they’d probably be engaging in riskier behavior, maybe with their guns.”

Brian J. Siebel, senior attorney at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said that because “the ages of 18 to 24 are the most volatile time period in peoples’ lives, bringing guns into settings like fraternities, where there may be drinking or other careless activities seems particularly hazardous.”

Thinking that only a student with documented mental health problems like Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho could commit a murder on campus is a mistake on the part of administrators, Siebel said. “Cho may have acted strangely … and been perceived to be dangerous by other people, but a host of people who’ve committed crimes with guns were not perceived to be dangerous before committing a shooting.”

Mental health advocacy groups like the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law also resist the characterization of a student who commits a gun crime as mentally ill. “Because there’s a stigma attached to being mentally ill, it’s easy for people to say that they’re the ones who hurt and kill people,” Lee Carty, the center’s director of communications, said. “But it’s more likely to be someone who’s not mentally ill.”

“And if anything,” she added, “I’d expect more crimes where substance abuse is involved,” as it might be in hard-partying fraternities, where the use of alcohol and drugs is commonplace.

Katherine Newman, a professor of sociology at Princeton University and the author of Rampage: The Social Roots of School Shootings, a book that received attention following the Virginia Tech shootings, said that “as a university professor myself, I shudder at the idea that students have guns, particularly fraternity kids who are known to drink to excess.”

Based on her studies, Newman said, gun incidents at fraternity houses are more likely not to be random rampages but rather to fit the pattern of recent accidental and drunken shootings. “Drinking is never good for judgment and throwing guns into the mix is just asking for a tragedy,” she said. “But I wouldn’t expect the kind of tragedy we saw in Virginia Tech, which would be small comfort to anyone affected.”

Light, who was to begin his junior year at Yale in the fall, was placed on emergency suspension, which remains in effect until the fall when the case will be heard by a college committee. University police transferred him to the custody of the New Haven Police Department and he was released on Tuesday after posting a $150,000 bond.

Fraternities, for their part, acknowledge the dangers of guns in the hands of college students but defend their members. “Members of fraternities are a reflection of the general population of colleges and universities across the nation,” Peter Smithheisler, vice president of the North American Interfraternity Conference, said. “But I would agree we need to be conscious of guns, whether in a fraternity or any other environment."

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Comments on Beer, Brotherhood and Guns

  • Guns and Fraternities? Can't be!
  • Posted by Geoff on July 23, 2007 at 9:05am EDT
  • Just imagine it! Fraternity members getting drunk and doing something that is stupid, careless, dangerous, and illegal. People have been dying at fraternity houses due to alcohol overdose for years. Why should they not die of accidental gunshots as well?

    I seem to remember back in april and may there were some pro-gun people leaving comments on this site telling us all that if the student body were armed to the teeth that less people would be vicitims of gun violence on our campuses and in our society. I guess not. It seems that the more guns present, the more people get shot.

  • Get the facts
  • Posted by Clear Thinker on July 23, 2007 at 10:00am EDT
  • A nice story promoting the anti gun hysteria. It ranks right up there with the self serving hysteria about cholesterol and the boogie man. Unfortunately its a one sided story and presents a false picture of the issues. Perhaps you could team up with Michael Moore on his next crockumentary.

    If you want to present a balnace story check out the number of incidents that have been avoided because a responsible gun owner (not some drunken frat rat) used a legally owned gun to avoid a murder or rape. Ask the NRA they have plenty of stories they just don't get published because it would mitigate the gun ban hysteria agenda.

    If you're going to write, offer both sides of the issue and let the reader decide.

  • Guns
  • Posted by schencka on July 23, 2007 at 10:00am EDT
  • Like the cop who shoots himself in the foot, or who has his gun taken away by a criminal, people with guns are much more likely to get shot than those who spent little to no time around guns.

  • what do these have in common?
  • Posted by Clayton E. Cramer on July 23, 2007 at 10:45am EDT
  • Guns plus alcohol sometimes yields accidental shooting. Fists plus alcohol sometimes yields drunken brawl. Cars plus alcohol sometimes yields drunk driving accidents. Penis plus alcohol sometimes yields rape.

    If there is something that colleges might want to seriously considering fixing, maybe it is the alcohol? Alcohol (and many of the illegal drugs) reduce inhibitions and impair judgment--both of which are in short supply among many young people. Focus on the real problem.

  • concealed carry licenses
  • Posted by James on July 23, 2007 at 11:15am EDT
  • There are people who misuse firearms just as there are those who misuse alcohol and automobiles. The article fails to mention how many of the people arrested for improper use of a firearm had concealed carry licenses. I suspect none of them did.

  • Posted by Anonymous on July 23, 2007 at 11:30am EDT
  • 2-3 years ago there was an incident at a university where a fraternity member brought a gun to campus. One of his suitemates, who had been taunted and harassed by fraternity members, wound up using the gun to kill himself right before Thanksgiving. Guns do not belong on campus or in off-campus housing

  • Posted by CJ Prof on July 23, 2007 at 12:10pm EDT
  • “the ages of 18 to 24 are the most volatile time period in peoples’ lives,.."

    Oddly enough, there are several organizations who would be delighted to have young people in this age range working for them. These organizations actually encourage the use of fire arms and would provide a controlled outlet for these children playing with their deadly toys. See USMC, US Army, USCG, and US Navy!

  • Statistics speak
  • Posted by Jonathan Dresner on July 23, 2007 at 4:05pm EDT
  • I'm quite struck by the Harvard Public Health survey results: while about one in twenty fraternity members are gun owners, about one in twenty-five non-fraternity students are gun owners. That's not a huge difference, and it's considerably more likely that fraternity member gun incidents will come to the attention of academic institutions, whereas non-fraternity gun incidents may be handled by conventional law enforcement without ever involving the schools.

    What I'm trying to say is that I don't know that there's any particular reason to consider the gun problem of fraternities separate from the general run of fraternity issues or from the general problem of gun issues.

  • Margin of Error
  • Posted by Derik Engelwood on July 23, 2007 at 5:00pm EDT
  • I took a closer look at the Harvard survey you quoted in your article. With a margin of error of +/- 1% it doesn't seem to me that there's any identifiable correlation between owning a gun and being in a fraternity.

    Nice try!

  • Guns/Drinking
  • Posted by MIke McDaniel on July 23, 2007 at 5:20pm EDT
  • An extraordinarily simplistic treatment of the issue. Because a few frat types have mishandled firearms while drunk, the conclusion is that the guns made them do it, or that because guns exist, they will be mishandled in these circumstances? Such anecdotes are noteworthy primarily because they are unusual. And this passes for educated thinking?

    Those who own guns are not, in fact more likely to be injured or killed by guns. Police officers, for example, sometimes meet with violence because unlike the rest of society, they are duty bound to enter situations where violence, even deadly violence is certain to happen. But it would hardly be logical so suggest that we do away with their guns so that they can't be hurt.

    As at least one other poster suggested, the problem is not which inanimate object a raving drunk misuses, but the fact that far too many college students are raving drunks and druggies. And if logic, studies and facts are your cup of tea, you'll quickly discover that in terms of which inanimate objects cause the greatest harm to college age people, firearms are far down on the list. Of course, you won't get that kind of information consulting such neutral and unassailable organizations as the Brady Campaign. But that's rather the point, isn't it.

  • Accidents happen, there is NOT always someone to blame
  • Posted by Andy Vukonich on July 23, 2007 at 8:35pm EDT
  • Derik and Jonathan hit the nail on the head, there is very little difference in the number of greeks vs. non-greeks that own guns and if you look a little deeper it is easy to see why. it is a lot easier to store a gun off campus than on. Also, I have not seen any study of the number of people living off campus not apart of a fraternity that own guns, I am sure the numbers will be very similar.

    I am a member of a fraternaty and I am amazed daily at the ignorance of some people. 85% of Fortune 500 executives, 76% of US Senetors, and all but 2 United States Presidents are or were greek and yet all the media and public want to do is inform everyone of awful greek life is. when in fact being greek is what makes many people successful, and yes, 30 years ago they drank jsut as much as we do now and they probly had twice as many guns.

    Beer, Brotherhood, and guns is not the problem!

  • Intelligent responses to some unintelligent comments
  • Posted by Prof Ed , Director, Faculty Development at California State University Channel Islands on July 23, 2007 at 8:35pm EDT
  • It is heartening that respondents saw through the slanted "Let's all spread fear and loathing on command now, kiddies!" message conveyed by several quoted within the article. Granted, some individuals' actions reported were so far beyond stupid that it makes one wonder how they lived to achieve college age, let alone how they gained admission. Yet, reading the negative labeling and pontificated generalizations based on rare, aberrant acts of perverse individuals shows that the highly educated also default to spreading prejudice when faced with their own hot-button issues..

  • Posted by John the Marine on July 31, 2007 at 2:20pm EDT
  • After reading the above article I came away with the following:

    1. College kids are irresponsible fools who commit incredibly stupid acts while they are drunk.

    2. Educators are basically Leftist who dislike/hate private firearm ownership.

    I have a few suggestions for the Professors. Colleges should strictly enforce the drinking age on campus. Colleges should hold their students responsible for their actions as adults and stop treating them like overgrown highschool kids. Finally college falculties should drop the sixties revival hippiew BS and go back to being adults themselves.

    Just as an aside, when I was in the Corps (88 - 92) we drank like fish, we also got into fist fights, chased girls and in general played hard (No drugs though). In some instances we had access to real firepower and yet never felt the need to play with our weapons. You see children play with guns, drunk or sober, young men and women know better.