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September 7, 2007

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The image of admissions officers as gatekeepers is a powerful one in American culture. High school students concoct ways to impress them. Movie plots show how applicants will win them them over by any means necessary (think of the caricatures of admissions officers in Risky Business or Orange County). Their work is so important that Sandra Day O'Connor was called upon to tell them what they may and may not consider -- and Chief Justice John Roberts may do so in the future.

Part of the mystique is that what they do goes on behind closed doors. Mitchell L. Stevens has a book out this month about getting behind those doors. The admissions office at an elite liberal arts college that he doesn't name (but we will, later) allowed Mitchell, currently an associate professor of education and sociology at New York University, to work there for 18 months. He helped organize trips to high schools, tours of the campus, answered calls from applicants, shoveled snow, and sat in as the college decided whom to admit. In Creating a Class: College Admissions and the Education of Elites, from Harvard University Press, Stevens shares what he saw.

The admissions officers described (all with pseudonyms) come across sympathetically. Stevens returns again and again to the theme that they care deeply about students and the college, want to help as many students as they can (within a limited budget), and are conscious of the importance to applicants and their families of the decisions made. The admissions officers are seen doing plenty of agonizing, really weighing decisions and worrying about their impact. In an interview, asked what reforms he would make of admissions, he said that the biggest reforms needed in education aren't in admissions.

"I would say that we need to stop expecting so much of the selective college admissions process," he said. "If we are really interested in educational opportunity, we should be looking elsewhere. One problem with our public conversation on educational opportunity is that we focus too much on the admissions process and not on the systems that deliver young people to the system."

But the reality, of course, is that, given the current system, admissions officers have lots of dilemmas. How to attract more students, how to attract enough students who can afford tuition so that money is left over for those who can't. How to keep coaches happy. How to keep alumni happy. The anecdotes Stevens shares show admissions officers to be spending a lot of time on details, and not feeling particularly powerful.

When arriving at a high school 15 minutes early, the admissions officers know that a guidance counselor doesn't have extra time and probably has an overflowing waiting room, so the college's admissions officers wait in the car until just before the agreed upon time. When a student on the borderline has been rejected, an admissions officer who presented her file worries that because she was 28th out of the 30 he presented that day, he may have not done as good as job as he should have, and so pushes for another chance -- to avoid the prospect that his flaws in presentation may have hurt her chances at admission.

At the same time, other parts of the admissions process shown are less idealistic. Money is discussed openly and frequently, as in whether the students have enough money to pay tuition and, in some cases, whether students' parents have the potential to become major donors. One student discussed -- also not a clearcut admit -- is evaluated in part because her father is a major donor to Dartmouth College. The admissions officers feel that if the student is rejected for early decision, she'll apply and be admitted to Dartmouth (her sister, with weaker credentials, has been admitted). "He's generous with Dartmouth, who knows, he might be generous with the college, too," one admissions officer says.

Something Stevens stresses, however, is that even in cases like this, multiple factors are at play. The admissions team didn't doubt that the student could do the work at the college. And there was excitement about the applicant's high school -- a school with many good students that hadn't sent many of them to the college. Many of the decisions come about because of "evaluative story telling," Stevens writes -- or the sum of a presentation about the applicant.

That's not to say that some of the controversies of American higher education don't stand out in the book. There's affirmative action, for example. The college is portrayed as constantly struggling to recruit more minority students from a limited pool of those with both the grades, test scores and interest to enroll.

The beautiful, rural setting -- with more history than diversity -- is portrayed as an obstacle, so everything must be right. Stevens describes being told how to improve the odds. When groups of minority would-be applicants are on campus, you don't want them to run into the minority professor who once told a similar group that they might not want to apply. When asked about the percentage of minority students, one could say 10 percent (the total), but Stevens is encouraged to use the better figure from the most recent class (14 percent). He's not told to lie, but to use "the most flattering accurate defensible numbers possible."

The book also describes the sense in which admissions officers -- out of their desire to have enough money to let in low-income minority applicants -- might not look as favorably on other applicants needing money. The college was receiving more applications from recent immigrants to New York City from Eastern Europe, students who had overcome plenty, had worked hard, and had little money. As one admissions officer recalled for Stevens, "they'd be very expenseive, just as expensive as the multicultural kids, but we couldn't take them."

Asked if he thought passages like that would meet the legal standards set by the Supreme Court for when race and ethnicity can be considered, Stevens said that it wasn't his place to say.

The subject on which Stevens said he was most surprised was athletics. For all the talk about preferences for minority or legacy applicants, Stevens said that the preference that counted the most was sports ability. There are some anecdotes that will reinforce the stereotypes of many academics about jocks. Some coaches would, with some regularity, push for the admission of athletes who were not top students. Admissions officers in the book are particularly critical of the "helmet sports" -- football and hockey.

But Stevens also discusses coaches who consistently would come to the admissions office with lists of desired applicants who were as strong in the library as on the field. There were many coaches he saw who put enough emphasis on recruiting the right kind of mental talent that their lists were people who would have been admitted without extra help.

"I would say one of the largest intellectual surprises of my career was to be able to set aside the notion that sports are a pollutant on the main business of higher education and to see sports as part of the business of higher education," Stevens said. For many academics, "the notion that sports pollutes is deeply ingrained in your identity," but that's not really the case, he said.

While admissions officers nationally complain about fending off coaches, Stevens notes in his book that coaches attract much of the (academic) talent because they are constantly on the road, looking for high schoolers who might fit in well. "Coaches may be the people who bug you, but they are also a really valuable part of the whole recruitment machinery," he said.

Perhaps more important, he added that working in admissions drove home for him as never before that many smart high school students want athletics as part of their college experience. "There are a whole lot of very serious 17 year olds who care about this," he said.

One tradition described in the book (which the college's current admissions dean says is no longer in place) is "the rule of one pick," which allowed each admissions officer to select one applicant without the support of any of his or her colleagues. This was the spot to save for the applicant with whom an admissions officer felt offered something special to the college, but whose test scores or background didn't attract the support of others. Stevens said he liked the symbolism of the tradition. "It was recognition of the complexity and humanity of the process. The rule of one pick said that you can't always make the decision you think you should make. Here's an opportunity for you to make the decision -- one time a year -- that you think you should make because it's right."

Asked if the rule might also reinforce the idea of the admissions officer as a powerful gatekeeper, Stevens said that might be the case, too. "That's the inherent contradiction with which admissions officers work every day. They are important arbiters of opportunity. But they are elaborately constrained."

Books about admissions, and books promising an inside look at admissions, are hardly a new idea. In The Gatekeepers, for example, Jacques Steinberg followed a small group of applicants through the admissions process of Wesleyan University. Asked, as a sociologist, why so many admissions books focus on the elite liberal arts colleges, which after all are attended by only a minority of students, Stevens offered this thought. "I think these schools serve as the conscience of higher education in this country. Undergraduate education is the symbolic core of higher education and these colleges represent what we think the best schools in the country should be doing for our most accomplished young people," he said. "These are places where you can put utopia into practice."

Why did Stevens set out to look at these issues? His previous book was also a behind-the-scenes education study: Kingdom of Children: Culture and Controversy in the Homeschooling Movement (Princeton University Press). He said he wanted to apply a similar, personal approach to college admissions, and he was especially curious about the way decisions were made "in cases that appear to be quite similar" but result in different outcomes.

At the time, Stevens taught at Hamilton College and the college's institutional review board (the federally required board to approve research involving human subjects) approved the plan, in which Stevens said he would keep the college studied and all individuals anonymous. His plan also involved him working in admissions, not just taking notes on the side. He told everyone he worked with that he was a researcher preparing a book, used his real name, and did his job. While he was present for admissions decisions, that was a task he did not perform.

"The participant part is important," he said, explaining why he wanted to do actual work in admissions. "This is an emotional, embodied process. Admissions officers have feelings. They have relationships with applicants, with colleagues, with colleagues at other schools. I saw that."

(Spoiler alert: If you want to read the book without knowing the college he studied, end here.) Many descriptions of the college studied are changed in somewhat generic ways so that details do not give away the institution (or at least not too much). But in part because Stevens used his real name when he undertook his research, it isn't too hard to determine that the college studied was in fact the one where he worked at the time. While the descriptions of the college in the book appear accurate, the description on the book jacket may be trying to divert attention as it identifies the college as being in "bucolic New England." Hamilton is in a bucolic part of New York State.

IRB concerns aside, Stevens said that he was happy to leave the name of the college out because he was writing the book to look at a class of institutions, not one, and because he believes most of the issues (if not every detail) are representative. He said that he mailed copies of the book this week to all of those in it for whom he had addresses and had yet to hear back from anyone.

It's important to note that in admissions personnel (not to mention athletic or administrative personnel), the six years between the end of Stevens' research and today is a lifetime. Many of the key players at Hamilton today are new. Key policies have changed. Hamilton, after an experiment, went SAT-optional. Just this year, Hamilton announced a shift designed to focus more of its aid dollars on low-income students: The college ended the use of merit aid so all funds would be awarded based on need. Those and other policy shifts have increased the minority and low-income applicant pool.

To judge from a few calls to admissions deans at similar institutions, there are few ways to make an admissions dean happier than to tell her about the book, have her wonder why you are calling her, and then to tell her that you are not calling about her institution. At Hamilton, Monica Inzer is dean of admissions and financial aid. She arrived in 2003, after Stevens finished his research. Asked if she was told during the interview process that a book might appear detailing the inner workings of her department, she said that No, it never came up. But Inzer, who has read the book, said she wasn't bothered by it.

While some details wouldn't be the same today, "I think the book does ring true for what selective college admission is like at many colleges, including Hamilton," she said. "I think the book portrays a positive place with good people who care about students."

What she most liked about the book, she said, is that "although the admission process can be very numbers- and data-driven, he shows the human process -- that there are real people making real decisions who care about each individual applicant."

So much of the staff is new, Inzer said, that she can't even identify many of those in the book, and that's OK with her, too. Admissions procedures change, she said, and in Hamilton's case it has attracted more applicants. The point she said she tries to stress when talking about admissions (and it is consistent with the picture that emerges in Creating a Class) is that most of admissions isn't about weeding out the qualified from the unqualified. "I would guess that 75 percent of the people who apply to Hamilton would be really successful here," she said. "Everyone we admit is strong and lots of kids we don't admit are strong," she said.

Rit Fuller, an education consultant, preceded Inzer, and he is the one who signed off on the idea of letting Stevens work in the admissions office. Fuller hasn't read the book yet, so he said he couldn't comment on it specifically. Asked why he agreed to let the project go ahead, he said: "Hamilton College does things right and I didn't feel that we had a lot to hide or be ashamed of," he said. "I'm proud of the fact that we felt good enough about the process to do this."

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Comments on Who Gets In -- and Why

  • Posted by SB on September 7, 2007 at 8:30am EDT
  • Of course what's not mentioned in this article is that almost anyone can become an admissions officer. For many higher ed practitioners, it's an entry level job until we find something better higher up.

  • A good thing
  • Posted by Glen S. McGhee , Dir., at Florida Higher Education Accountability Project on September 7, 2007 at 8:40am EDT
  • It is good for these kinds of micro-situational studies of higher education to be published. The more we know about the micro-universes within HE, the better.

    I am sure that similar findings would emerge in studies of the registrar's office, for those that wonder about why their credits weren't accepted upon transfer.

    But one place you will *not* find open to this kind of scrutiny are the regional accrediting associations that serve as gatekeepers for the flow of billions and billions of Title IV dollars.

    For the accrediting guilds, the lack of transparency and accountability is what the game is all about. And neo-institutional sociology, I believe, can be used to understand this, and maybe even used to open up the process.

  • "Who Gets In... and WHERE"
  • Posted by Cynthia on September 7, 2007 at 8:55am EDT
  • Admissions staff are probably well-meaning, generally. But I infer, from this article, that the conclusions are relevant to the small universe of elite, small, liberal arts colleges. It would be illuminating to know if the same degree of personal involvement and advocacy occurs at larger colleges and universities. I would love to see a follow-up by the author, indicating the relevance of this article to the broad range of U.S. higher education institutions.

  • Posted by Marvin McConoughey on September 7, 2007 at 9:05am EDT
  • This is a heartening positive review of what appears to be a very honest attempt by one person to learn how the admissions system worked at one college at a particular time. Luckily for students, there is a college at some level for nearly every student who wishes to learn.

  • the Wealthy Elite and Need Conscious Admissions
  • Posted by Mike on September 7, 2007 at 9:06am EDT
  • Does anyone besides me find it laughable when a school like Hamilton which has an endowment of over $500 million talks about having a limited budget which limits their ability to admit a greater number of needy students. I guess the Rich just HAVE to keep getting richer.

  • Today's WTF?
  • Posted by Buzz on September 7, 2007 at 9:35am EDT
  • " .. I guess the Rich just HAVE to keep getting richer."

    Using math --

    How does using interest income from endowments for scholarships, help "the rich get richer?"

    And if college endowments were used, just as funding grants -- non-Ivy endowments would be depleted in a few years.

    Facts can hurt, unfortunately.

    BTW: about Hamilton -- an almost-Hamilton speaker, now a "free speech" advocate with a $68,000/year pension-right.

    http://pirateballerina.com/

  • RIP off
  • Posted by ACF on September 7, 2007 at 11:00am EDT
  • Imagine automobile manufacturers doubling the retail cost of every car and then allocating the excess profit (from sales to those families who can afford the retail cost) to "grants" for those who cannot afford the newly high cost of the car.

    Of course, this would be appalling. It would be simply another way to redistribute wealth and it would affect the working decisions of families around the country. Families would decide to scale back from having two working parents to having one working parent and then simply getting a "car grant." Nobody would want to work harder just to pay for someone else's car.

    Well, this is what has happened in american universities over the past 15 years because of the decisions these admissions officers are making. In order to pay tuition for more and more people, then have simply increased the cost of college by 7% per year FOR THE RETAIL CUSTOMER while giving out more grants. The effect has been that people in the public mistakenly believe that the cost of college is actually going up at a feverish rate (like health care). Well, net college costs have been below the rate of inflation. You can't tell from the retail cost because of this scam that is being pulled.

    Imagine going to the grocery store to buy an apple and the cashier asking you how much money you make before deciding how much to charge....

  • Revealing???
  • Posted by a bit unsettled , another sociologist on September 7, 2007 at 11:00am EDT
  • Is anyone bothered by the fact that this story contains both identifying information about a person (the woman with the Dartmouth donating father, mentioning her sister, etc.)and the name of the college where the research took place? I understand that it was "easy to find out" but how can we legitimately do case studies if others are revealing our sources of research to the many who otherwise would have no idea what school it might be?

  • Déjà vu All Over Again
  • Posted by Frizbane Manley on September 7, 2007 at 11:35am EDT
  • About admissions in general – i.e., at any university in the country – I would like someone to conduct the following experiment:

    During a randomly chosen five of the next ten years at the University of All People, the Admissions Office will choose its freshman classes using whatever wonderful strategy it normally employs. In the five “off” years we will choose UAP’s freshman class simply by taking an appropriately-sized random sample from the population of all applicants who have high school GPAs of at least 3.5 … and not examine any additional evidence about the applicants. Then at the end of the ten-year experimental period we’ll ask the faculty two questions, (1) “In which years were your students more ‘talented?’” and (2) In which years was the culture for learning at UAP clearly superior?”

    You must surely know my conjecture is that there would not be a dime’s worth of difference between the faculty’s responses over the two collections of years.

    I admit that would not prove admissions’ strategies are generally irrelevant. One criticism of my study is that we are asking the wrong people. We should be asking similar questions of the students, but, of course, they would not have the ten-year reference set upon which to make comparisons. For example it might be useful to ask students, “To what degree was the diversity of the UAP student body a contributing factor to your education?” Were this pseudo-experiment possible, I imagine there might be a statistically significant difference between the two collections of years ... but I would not put big money on it.

    On the other hand, all of their “brilliant innovation” keeps the admissions’ folks occupied, justifies their salaries (and benefits‘ payments) ... and probably doesn’t substantially harm (or help) the culture for learning that IS UAP.

    By the way, I would be curious to know if there is a single topic – however obscure – that my Southern Appalachian comrade, Buzz, is incapable of turning into either (1) a conspiracy of left-wing, knee-jerk liberals or (2) the professional dishonesty of Ward Churchill. Clever boy!

  • Who Gets In
  • Posted by Tim , Admissions Director on September 7, 2007 at 11:35am EDT
  • As a veteran of private and public admissions offices I was pleased to see how fairly and accurately the world of the admissions professional was portrayed. We do not always have the benefit of living in an academic vacuum and have to deal with the realities of our student's lives and our institution's needs.

    On a personal note I was sad to read the comments that "anyone can be an admissions officer..." Yes, the job of an admissions counselor is entry level and a starting point for many, but only a select number truly appreciate the complexity of the work and how dramatically we impact student's lives. The professionals in our field are well educated, and strive to serve their institutions by understanding the many dynamics that influence student's decisions. To discount the admissions profession as only a starting point for other higher education professions shows a lack of respect for those of us who have dedicated their careers to improving higher education.

  • The Education of Elites
  • Posted by Tom Flint , Director of Accreditation at Kaplan University on September 7, 2007 at 12:15pm EDT
  • Stevens: "These schools [the elite liberal arts colleges] serve as the conscience of higher education in this country...These are places where you can put utopia into practice." An alternative view begins to reveal itself when the new admissions dean notes that "lots of kids we don't admit are strong." For all the attention they receive, highly talented "kids" are not higher education's common clientele. Rather, students with "adult" responsibilities like families, jobs, and other real-world commitments comprise 75 percent of current US undergraduates. These students have no chance to walk away from their commitments for full-time residential study in bucolic settings. The alternative view is that the colleges and universities that have undertaken the often difficult task of designing and delivering "adult-friendly" programs and services are the real conscience of higher education. (Utopia is, almost by definition, inaccessible and unaffordable.) The field would benefit from more books written by sociologists who studied effective practices in delivering degree programs to adult learners, and Stevens himself seems to be saying as much when he frankly advises us to "be looking elsewhere" if we want to improve educational opportunity.

  • True Cost
  • Posted by Anon on September 7, 2007 at 12:25pm EDT
  • I don't know whether or not this is true at Hamilton, but at the liberal arts college I attended the true cost per student was far above what anyone paid. These days it's somewhere around $60,000 or $70,000 per student per year, but even the top tuition rate is far lower. So, even those who pay sticker price aren't paying the true cost of the education (the rest is covered by endowment, grants, etc.) The difference in price is just a question of how big a discount a student is getting.

  • Posted by Mike , Adfmissions officer on September 7, 2007 at 12:45pm EDT
  • At least one more faculty member actually knows something more about the stresses, conflicting priorities and real life of the admissions staff. I wonder if he shares any observations about what his colleagues on the faculty think of the admissions staff and their work.

  • Admissions
  • Posted by Faculty person on September 7, 2007 at 1:40pm EDT
  • ACF,

    Colleges, unlike automobiles, are not commodities. Instead they are communities. The admissions process helps shape these communities.

    If the university wants to increase diversity then it can use the admissions process and particularly need based scholarships to aid lower income students. If the university wants to increase academic ability of its students it can put more money in merit scholarships. Automobile dealers don't generally do this.

  • Admissions and Lenny Bruce
  • Posted by Neal Raisman , President at AcademicMAPS on September 7, 2007 at 1:50pm EDT
  • Complaints about hard working and over worked admission’s people always remind me of a Lenny Bruce routine. He talks about the creation of police who are needed to make sure everyone “eats, sleeps and craps in the right places.” The guy hiring the first policeman says that the police are to do just what the society wants but realize that we will all complain about them to society. After all “I have to live with these a..holes…but if you don’t do what we want, then we’ll throw you in the sh..ter.”

    As a consultant to colleges and universities on enrollment, retention and customer service I am now used to the complaints academics have about admissions people. They are the “police of academia” doing the work the society wants them to do. The admission standards are set by the academics. So admission people are simply trying to implement the wishes of the campus society. But like Lenny’s police, academics have to complain about them as they implement the guidelines, “admission rules” the academics set.

    Yes we don’t want to have sports dictate admissions but we also want, no almost demand a winning team. We hate raising tuition but want increased salary, benefits, equipment, release time, smaller classes…. We are bothered by the sense of entitlement and elitism in admissions but want better students. Stop admitting the wrong students.

    As pogo put it “we have met the enemy, and they are we.” Not admissions.

    The job of admissions is not to just raise our standards and admit only the best students. It is our academic job to make the students who are admitted on our standards the best they can become.

    Oh, by the way if we all focused on retaining the students initially admitted, the demands on admissions would decline ands most of our complaints about them would diminish. But I suppose then we might have to look at ourselves? Enrolling is not the objective. Graduating is.

  • Raise the bar
  • Posted by Former Dean on September 7, 2007 at 3:15pm EDT
  • One wonders whether, as a participant-observer, the author took the time to write his own responses to Hamilton's admissions essay questions? Or better yet, did he take the SAT himself to see if he'd have a chance at being admitted to the school whose academic standards he was responsible for maintaining? I yearn for the day when college applicants demand to see the test scores and narrative prose of their gatekeepers before submitting to the excruciations of the selective college admissions process. Imagine what the addition of the admissions staff's median SAT scores would do to a college's place in the rankings? (U.S. News, are you paying attention?)

  • Rich getting Richer
  • Posted by Mike on September 7, 2007 at 4:00pm EDT
  • Buzz...I'm not advocating that all of an institution's endowment income be used for grants but there are too many wealthy schools who (in my opinion) don't use enough of their gains in support of needy students. Its important to keep one's endowment healthy and growing but many schools with large endowments tend to remain very restrictive about the use of their savings in order to keep piling up the dollars.

  • A Note For Neal Raisman ...
  • Posted by Frizbane Manley on September 7, 2007 at 5:20pm EDT
  • In fact, Pogo said “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

    http://www.nauticom.net/www/chuckm/whmte.htm

    And while we’re invoking the wisdom of Pogo and discussing what’s going on in the world today, there is an old Pogo strip in which one of Walt Kelly’s quintessential blow-hard politicians is promising to “make the world safe for democracy!" Pogo’s response is "But who'll make democracy safe for the world?"

    Anyway ...

  • Retention is everyone's job
  • Posted by Shoes , Former College Recruiter on September 7, 2007 at 5:20pm EDT
  • I agree, the job of EVERYONE in the academic community is to retain the students. Graduating is the goal. Faculty need to focus on ensuring all students - the honor students and the 2.0 GPA students - reach that goal.

    Stop wasting time judging how others in the academy are doing their jobs. All should focus on their own jobs - for the good of the university - faculty's job is to facilitate learning and admissions job is to select students for their specific cultural and academic community. And again it's everyone's job to ensure retention to graduation.

  • Retention is not my only job
  • Posted by Faculty person on September 8, 2007 at 6:40am EDT
  • Shoes writes:
    I agree, the job of EVERYONE in the academic community is to retain the students. Graduating is the goal. Faculty need to focus on ensuring all students — the honor students and the 2.0 GPA students — reach that goal.

    But another one of my jobs is as a gatekeeper upholding the standards of my discipline. Your life might literally depend on the quality of one of our graduates.

    Unfortunately there is no foolproof way to make sure an entering student is capable of performing to the standards in question (well, MIT and Caltech do pretty well but we can't all be them).

  • Retention is a red herring
  • Posted by Grumpy Prof on September 8, 2007 at 6:45am EDT
  • Retention should NOT be a faculty member's job, nor should it really be an admissions decision per se. It's up to the student to do the work necessary to succeed and stay in school.

    While the administration should help by providing such things as study skills workshops, computer labs and a well-stocked and well-staffed library, a student should be flunked out for at least the following:

    1/ non-attendance, 2/ GPAs under 1.7 [which is a C-], 3/ violations of the Student Code of Conduct [including plagiarism, cheating, violence, or anything else in a particular school's code].

    When will the onus be placed back on these supposedly "excellent" students [who would be fired if they pulled this sort of crap in the workplace]?

    I have taught at large R1 Universities, and some of the imbeciles who have entered my classroom actually expect to pass on...well, it's not their charm since they have the charm of a back-alley rat. The student who needs to be removed [thus not retained] should be dumped in favor of the student who wishes to learn, become educated, and succeed. Some of these issues MUST be known at admissions time; for instance, not every high school has excessive grade inflation. If not, then why not? You're not helping someone become educated if they are unwilling to put in the time or effort to do so.

  • A few thoughts...
  • Posted by Z , Assistant Director of Admissions at Medium-Large Sized Private University on September 9, 2007 at 1:40pm EDT
  • At my university everybody has at least one degree and most are working towards a second or even a third. I do not think it is fair to say that anybody can do this job. The job in admissions is long and hard. Traveling to various states (or countries), keeping up with various special programs, and reading applications is often a thankless job that seems to have no end. I graduated from a small liberal arts college similar to Hamilton and I now work at a medium-large size private university in a city. They are two extremes on the outside, however, the admissions processes are quite similar. The agony in which counselors make these decisions is not an enviable task. There are so many variables that come into play when students are evaluated. There has to be a subjective nature to this job. Finances do play an important role. At the end of the day the institutional goals need to be met. A comment was made earlier about the real cost of education costing close to 60,000-$70,000 dollars. The most expensive institution is not charging that amount of money. Even though we have to pay professors and staff, pay for utilities and land, and make sure that our facilities are top of the line, we are trying to accommodate the students. Admissions tries to make its process transparent, but sometimes there are so many variables to consider it would probably make this process even more complicated than it already is. We have students in high school that are trying to make a great impression on us and they know what we expect. Don't you think this process is hard enough for them? Do they need more on their plate? I am going to read this book and I think that it will provide more insight into the process, which will hopefully educate those that think anybody can do it.

  • Grumpy Prof's Priorities Out of Whack
  • Posted by Scrawed on September 9, 2007 at 3:55pm EDT
  • "...a student should be flunked out for at least the following: 1/ non-attendance, 2/ GPAs under 1.7 [which is a C-], 3/ violations of the Student Code of Conduct [including plagiarism, cheating, violence, or anything else in a particular school’s code]."

    Does anyone else find the order of violations on this list more than a little disturbing? I would have thought that violations of academic honesty should come FIRST. Dismissal of students for low GPAs flies in the face of "Grumpy Prof's" apparent aversion to grade inflation. Unfortunately "Grumpy Prof" is all too typical of the kind of prof who will attack a student for missing a class (an infraction that can be observed) while approving Net-cribbed papers and projects (which often go years without detection - if they're found out at all).

    "When will the onus be placed back on these supposedly “excellent” students [who would be fired if they pulled this sort of crap in the workplace]?"

    That kind of prioritizing of issues has led us to the school environment and workplace we have today - cheating, plagiarizing, no respect for IP, and a willingness to dump people regardless of their records.

  • college admissions
  • Posted by Thomas Roche on September 9, 2007 at 9:45pm EDT
  • I am troubled that no one brought up the book published last year on the subject of admissions, 'Legacy', I believe was its title, written by a man named Kaplan, if I recall correctly. His conclusions wrt the current state of undergrad admissions policies and practices at elite American institutions were rather less rosy, etc., than Stevens', and he more or less concludes that a significant percentage of slots in freshman classes at such schools are simply unavailable to those applicants who do not qualify for special preferences based on athletic ability (including many positions available for 'patrician sports' such as water polo, lacrosse, etc., played by few if any public school kids), other extraordinary extra-curricular talents, family wealth or celebrity status, and, of course, alumni legacy status. He also shows that active prejudices used to discriminate against Asian-American kids quite clearly parallel those comments made about Jewish ones during the mid-20th century quota years. I am rather inclined to accept his view of things, as opposed to the rosy and potentially self-serving conclusions of a professor who conveniently studied his own institution.

  • Disappointing but Hardly New
  • Posted by Melanie , Director of Admissions on September 11, 2007 at 11:30am EDT
  • The embittered and maligning comments regarding admissions professionals are disappointing but hardly surprising. In fourteen years in the field, most admissions folks I have encountered have a genuine love for their institution that makes the travel, the hours and the stress superfluous. We are striving daily to make decisions that will make our institutions fiscally sound, have winning teams, hold the "right" place on US News and above all, graduate young men and women who will contribute to society and hopefully, one day, back to our school. It's an increasingly sophisticated business not made easier by snubs from those who find us somehow less intellectual for not holding a PhD. National trends show dropping test scores and rampant grade inflation, but somehow when these students end up in the classrooms (which is inevitable if these trends represent the majority of the high school populations), it's admissions' fault. The notion that we exist merely to draw salaries (we could all make more in private industry, just like faculty) is ludicrous. We are all on the same team...it's just very sad that many folks find it appropriate, when discovering something broken in our educational system, to use that knowledge as ammunition for cheap pot shots against the admissions office.