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Quick Take: DREAM Act Blocked, Teacher Ed Group Changes Standard, Taser Use Deemed OK, California Fires, Strike Averted at Rider, 'Faulty' Plan for Loan Auction, Another College Goes SAT-Optional, Towson Drops Male Program, Debt at Oral Roberts

October 25, 2007

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  • The U.S. Senate fell short Wednesday of the 60 votes needed to proceed to a vote on the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act, which would offer a pathway to permanent residency for students in the country without documentation who complete two years of college or military service. In a statement on the floor following the 52-44 vote, the bill's sponsor, Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D.-Ill.), pledged his commitment to continue pushing the bill - derided by many as an amnesty act - although he conceded, "I don't know when the next chance will be."
  • The National Council for Accreditation of Teacher Education has clarified its standards, removing "social justice" from a list of desired qualities for programs to encourage in students. Conservative groups have repeatedly portrayed the inclusion of social justice as evidence that the accreditor was pushing a liberal agenda on education colleges. The clarification issued by NCATE said that social justice was never actually required, but was simply one "illustrative example." As a result, NCATE said, it wasn't abandoning any policy it had, but was avoiding the confusion caused by including the term, which the group said was "widely and wildly misinterpreted by commentators."
  • A state panel has determined that University of Florida police officers did not violate procedures in using a taser to stop a student from continuing a barrage of questions during a campus lecture last month, WFTV News reported. The panel found that police officers considered the use of pepper spray, but ruled that approach out because of the crowd at the talk. Likewise, police officers said that simply subduing the student might have caused him more harm. The use of the taser has been widely criticized by Florida students. Bernie Machen, president of the university, issued a statement in which he said that regardless of the legal issues involved, the university would continue with a review of how it could best "foster an open environment that is also safe for our ever-changing campus community."
  • San Diego area colleges remain closed, as institutions deal with the fires raging in the area. The colleges emphasize that their campuses and students are not in danger, but that they realize people can't commute to and from campus right now. Several colleges -- among them the San Diego Community College District, San Diego State University, the University of California at San Diego and the University of San Diego -- have called off classes for the rest of the week.
  • The faculty chapter of the American Association of University Professors and Rider University have reached a tentative contract agreement, averting a strike that had been viewed as a possibility. Among the contract provisions: 4 percent raises, followed by raises that match the national average as reported by the AAUP; no "significant increase" in the number of full-time, non-tenure track faculty positions; an assurance that 65 percent of sections will be taught by full-time faculty members.
  • A plan to begin auctioning some federal loans for parents is based on "several faulty assumptions" and "will likely result in market consolidations, fewer loan providers, fewer benefits for borrowers, and limited savings for taxpayers," the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators argues in a paper released Wednesday. The association said it released the document about the plan -- which was enacted as part of the College Cost Reduction and Access Act that President Bush signed this fall -- to stimulate discussion.
  • Washington College, a liberal arts institution in Maryland, has announced that it will no longer require the SAT for applicants who have a high school grade-point average of at least 3.5 or who are in the top 10 percent of their high school classes. SAT or ACT scores will still be required for merit scholarships or for those for whom English is not their first language.
  • Towson University has dropped an unusual effort to recruit more male students through a program that favored applicants with high SAT scores but low grades, The Baltimore Sun reported. Towson officials told the Sun that retention rates were not as high as those for other students. The program was open to women too, but was designed to match the characteristics of many male students at a time that colleges nationally are seeing their proportions of students who are male shrink. Deborah Leather, associate provost at Towson, told the newspaper: "Basically, we are proving what has already been known, which is that grade point average is a better predictor of student success than SAT scores."
  • Oral Roberts University isn't just facing a scandal involving allegations of misconduct by its president (currently on leave) and his wife. The university has financial woes as well. The Tulsa World reported that the university has debt of $52.5 million, and that officials said that managing the debt made it difficult to invest in improvements for the university.
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Comments on Quick Take: DREAM Act Blocked, Teacher Ed Group Changes Standard, Taser Use Deemed OK, California Fires, Strike Averted at Rider, 'Faulty' Plan for Loan Auction, Another College Goes SAT-Optional, Towson Drops Male Program, Debt at Oral Roberts

  • So Let's Clarify....
  • Posted by kgotthardt on October 25, 2007 at 9:05am EDT
  • Our government doesn't really want to fix the immigration problem, nor do they support increased access to higher education. Social justice is only a liberal issue, so conservatives are free from the responsibility and encourage others to be the same.

    Something is desperately wrong with our country.

  • NCATE
  • Posted by Russell Kitchner on October 25, 2007 at 9:30am EDT
  • The comment attributed to an NCATE source that the social justice rubric in the NCATE guidelines was "widely and wildly misinterpreted by commentators. . .” might have at least a smidgeon of credibility were it not for the fact that it was NCATE review teams who were charged with ensuring compliance. A review of NCATE team reports issued since the concept was introduced will certainly reflect precisely NCATE's intent in this regard, as well as its success in promoting its agenda.

    It is disingenuous and shallow for the organization to deny the original motive behind including social justice as a litmus test of approved programs. Furthermore, suggesting that eliminating the notion was necessary due to the failure of others to correctly interpret the concept reflects a lack of integrity that does nothing to enhance an already tarnished image.

  • social justice
  • Posted by wesley on October 25, 2007 at 12:10pm EDT
  • Social Justice is not just a liberal issue. It is a code word for liberal policy. As for DREAM, it wouldn't solve any problems it is just amnesty from a differant direction, luring millions of illegal immigrants across the border to a slave like existance.

  • The (Illegal) Immigration "Problem"
  • Posted by Prof. Challenger on October 25, 2007 at 12:10pm EDT
  • Why is it, when the Congress won't go along with a plan to reward illegal immigrants with taxpayers' money, it's deemed "not really wanting to solve the immigration problem"? Mightn't holding the line on rewarding illegal behavior be part of an attempt to solve the (illegal) immigration problem?

  • Let's Clarify Further
  • Posted by Nanette Rayman , Writer on October 25, 2007 at 12:15pm EDT
  • So, you want illegal immigrants to have documentation and amnesty after they committed the crime of being illegal,while American citizens and the middle class are being treated like what illegals should be treated like.

    Fair trade agreements which are hurting our country, poisonous products from China, jobs lost, education and student loans crippling citizens, etc, etc, - but hey, let's legalize more illegals, give them an education (some Senators want to give it to them for free, while citizens struggle to pay their loans), we the taxpayers will pay the burden of the Medicaid and food stamps for them, the border patrol will continue to go to jail for rounding up drug cartel members, HEY, great country - here - what a crock! Oh, and illegals continue to kill our citizens and then they want "victim compensation." Screw them. Oh, and Bush, behind the scenes is taking away our sovereinty by trying to make North America ONE COUNTRY.

    The Senate is trying to pass amnesty by breaking it down into pieces when it didn't pass as a whole.

    CITIZEN POWER!

  • Posted by JBM on October 25, 2007 at 12:55pm EDT
  • Refusing to oblige taxpayers to fund college degrees for people who are in the country illegally is necessary and proper.

    Given scarce resources available for higher education, they are properly reserved for those who respect our society and laws. Further, as a policy matter, it is stupid to further encourage illegal aliens to come here by rewarding their children with taxpayer-funded college credentials.

    It's high time that parents take responsibility for their unlawful conduct and damage that it does. They should care more about their children than to compromise them in this way.

  • Dream Act
  • Posted by V. Meeks on October 25, 2007 at 1:40pm EDT
  • Educating 18-22 year olds is not just a benefit for those particular individuals, but for ALL Americans. Those that are focusing on the illegal aspect of education for children of immigrants are forgetting (or are not familiar with) all the social science literature that indicates promoting education for 18-22 year olds leads to positive outcomes for societies as a whole. Economically we all benefit if 18-22 years olds get on a successful life path. It seems it is not really a liberal or conservative issue - it is simply a wise choice for a country that wants to be successful.

  • Sad to see...
  • Posted by kgotthardt on October 25, 2007 at 1:45pm EDT
  • ..that so many supposed intellectuals on this board don't think investing in education is worth it...or that investing in our already present human capital is worth it...or that allowing hard working people who have been here for decades contributing to our economy and culture to come out from hiding is the right thing to do.

    For a "liberal" I'm pretty moderate, and in some areas, pretty conservative. Social justice to me means looking out for my neighbors, the "little guy," the people that cannot defend themselves and who get stomped on as a result. I believe Jesus called it "love thy neighbor." Help the poor and downtrodden. Hmmmm. Real liberal.

    I can soundly argue with you all day, but if you are so set in your illogical closed-mindedness and/or bigotry, it won't do anyone a bit of good.

    Open your minds and your hearts first, your mouths last.

  • It is Sad to See
  • Posted by PA Man on October 25, 2007 at 2:55pm EDT
  • kgotthardt: I don't know you, but I would guess that I am no more bigoted than you and that I am probably just as much an intellectual as are you. What bothers me with those who want to excuse illegal immigration is what appears to me to be a cavalier attitude toward respect for the rule of law. Such respect is the bedrock of our civilization. It's not a matter of being compassionate or even of being a liberal or a conservative -- it's simply a matter of respecting the law. Illegal aliens have indeed broken the law by coming here, and when they've been identified as such, they need to have legal action taken against them. By the way, illegal aliens are no more "immigrants" than are those who break into your home your "guests." I don't necessarily blame illegal aliens for coming to this country; if I were in their shoes I would do the same thing and hope that I could get away with it. But doing so would not make what I did right nor give me a reason to cry "foul" or "unfair" if I was caught and deported.

  • We can do it cheaply and fairly if we try
  • Posted by kgotthardt on October 25, 2007 at 9:30pm EDT
  • PA Man, I understand and completely respect what you are saying and how you are saying it. The law IS important, and that's why it is so unfair of this country to have allowed immigration to become such an issue. We have broken our own laws for decades and for our own convenience. When we don't enforce our own laws, when our incentives are based on monetary gain and exploitation of people, when we hold one standard for individuals and another for corporations, we cause ourselves and others harm.

    The fact is, many immigrants are here to work. Many came here legally, and something happened in the process. They can't go back and they can't stay. Still others came here so long ago, punishing them cannot be the right thing to do. No one can live more than a decade in this country without the government knowing it and allowing it to continue.

    It is too expensive and unrealistic to deport every undocumented immigrant. The least expensive way to deal with this and settle everyone down is to establish worker programs and other mechanisms for becoming citizens. Those who have never paid taxes WILL have to. Corporations that never paid social security WILL have to make it up. Immigrants who do not want to do this WILL need to leave. Criminals need to leave and never come back.

    We need to come to some kind of resolution here with the understanding that yes, laws have been broken, but they are not criminal laws. They are civil. We have criminals who walk free every day in this country. We have felons running corporations and they are never prosecuted. Why would we further clog up our legal system, our jails, our transportation, our agencies with a complicated, possibly unjust solution, when we can fix this internally for less money, and at the same time, be as fair to everyone as we can? It just doesn't make sense.

  • One more thing...
  • Posted by kgotthardt on October 25, 2007 at 9:30pm EDT
  • PA man, when I say it is sad that intellectuals are not thinking hard enough about this to come to a solution, I am hardly saying I am the intellectual here. I am saying YOU all are. I expect more from the smart people who work in academia and those who are supposed to run this country.

  • Posted by Student on December 8, 2007 at 2:00pm EST
  • Yes i think some of you are just mean by saying that we are criminals. I'm planning on going to college and i had no say in coming to this country I was two months old and i lived here ever since so i just think some of you are ignorant in what you say. You try to speak for every one and thats not right not every illegal here is good just like not every citizen here is good too. you should get informed MR.
    Student