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October 29, 2007

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The president of Iran isn't the only Holocaust denier to win a platform on an American college campus.

At Michigan State University Friday, Nick Griffin, the leader of the British National Party who was convicted in 1998 for incitement of racial hatred over material denying the Holocaust, was brought to campus for a speech denouncing Islam. Griffin acknowledges having been a Holocaust denier, but says he no longer is one. His party is on record opposing black-white marriages, believing that black people are less intelligent than white people, and saying that ethnic minorities should be limited to 2-3 percent of the population of any given area in Britain.

Griffin was invited to Michigan State by the campus chapter of Young Americans for Freedom. He was supposed to give a one-hour talk about Islam and then answer questions for an hour, but audience members started shouting at him shortly after he started his talk and he shifted to Q&A format so he could answer what was being shouted at him.

The event took place on the last day of (but was not part of) Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, an event organized by David Horowitz to sponsor speakers on campuses nationwide to criticize radical Islam. Organizers of the speech at Michigan State said that while they supported Horowitz's activities, it was "a coincidence" that they brought in their anti-Muslim speaker the same week as Horowitz was planning his activities. Horowitz disavowed the event, but some Muslim leaders said it was a perfect demonstration of their prediction that his activities would make it easier for others to attack Islam on campuses.

"Because Nick Griffin is a known Holocaust denier, people like David Horowitz want to separate themselves from someone like that," said Nada Zohdy, a sophomore at Michigan State who is chair of political action for the Muslim Students' Association. "What Horowitz does paves the way for even more extreme views to be expressed and tolerated -- and to blur the line between an important discussion about threats to our nation and blatant expressions of hatred."

Kyle Bristow, a junior and chairman of the Michigan State group that brought Griffin to the campus, said that he didn't agree with all of the speaker's views, quipping that aside from Pat Buchanan, "there's no one I agree with 100 percent."

He said that because Griffin has "recanted" his past Holocaust denial, that shouldn't be an issue. What should get attention, he said, was that a speaker was shouted down and that organizers of the event were later "chased by a mob with sticks and bats." He accused the Michigan State police of not taking the attack seriously.

The event, Bristow said, was "disrupted by intellectual fascists."

Terry Denbow, vice president for university relations at Michigan State, said that he was at the event and personally called the police when he saw the incident after the speech, and that four police cars arrived almost instantly.

In terms of the event as a whole, he said via e-mail: "The two-hour event was contentious, heated, and surely not, in my opinion, a poster event for civil discourse. The speaker was often shouted AT, but since the scheduled two-hour event lasted two hours, I would not say he was shouted DOWN. No arrests, as far as I know. No removals. To be sure, it was two hours of name calling and shouting and the prepared speech wasn't given, but amid the contentious exchanges, I would say Griffin was able to convey his intended core messages. And I would say the required question-answer component of our policy was met. During the exchanges I heard things I found reprehensible and counter to MSU's values. But bottom line: the marketplace on the banks of the Red Cedar was tested -- and was kept open, safe, and accessible, if not, to me, enlightening or elevating."

The Muslim Students' Association, along with Hillel and the Jewish Student Union, have called for the speech and the speaker to be condemned. Zohdy said that Griffin's appearance made Michigan State seem like "a haven for hate-mongers."

Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week featured speeches by Horowitz at Columbia, Emory and Princeton Universities and the University of Wisconsin at Madison. At Emory, shouting protesters -- most of them apparently not Emory students -- prevented him from talking. James Wagner, Emory's president, sent a note to the campus, criticizing how Horowitz was treated.

"Of all the principles we value at Emory University, the most fundamental is our commitment to the free and unfettered pursuit of the truth in scholarship and teaching.... When protesters repeatedly disrupt a lecture, as they did Wednesday night, resulting in its premature conclusion, they violate this most basic of all tenets in a university community," Wagner wrote. "David Horowitz is a controversial and even, at times, a provocative speaker. However, he was received with unacceptable rudeness when he came to Emory as a guest of a legitimate campus organization, the College Republicans. For our inability to control the reception he received, we apologize."

Elsewhere, there were protests, many letters to the editor, and some complaints that Horowitz was more rude than interesting.

Via e-mail, Horowitz said Sunday that his events served important goals and were nothing like what was organized at Michigan State. "Bringing a neo-Nazi and Jew-hater to campus in connection with Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week would be worse than counterproductive. It's antithetic to the purpose of the event which is designed to expose Nazis and Jew haters. Any attempt to associate me with this creep is a malicious misrepresentation of my efforts." He added that his organization sponsored no event at Michigan State.

He also rejected the charge that his activities promote hate. "There was a lot of hate spewed during Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week -- all of it coming from the left. I was called a racist, a bigot and a fascist, as were my speakers and students. The accusation that IFAW was designed to unleash hate against Muslims is a calculated lie.... You cannot find a single sentence in the thousands we wrote as part of our week or any of the speeches given during the week which would justify the accusation that we were promoting hatred of Muslims. This is a fascist tactic and it would be appalling if you lent any credence to it."

One of the speakers Horowitz did sponsor as part of the week was Ann Coulter, who wrote after 9/11: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." More recently she has been in the news for saying that Jews need to be "perfected" by becoming Christian.

Horowitz defended bringing Coulter to campuses.

"She's a satirist, whom leftists like to pretend to take seriously. Saying Coulter wants to convert Muslims to Christianity at the point of a sword is like saying that Jonathan Swift wanted to eat children," he said. "She also did not go after the Jews. All Christians in order to be Christians believe that Christians are perfected Jews. Jesus said this in so many words.... Coulter is a friend of the Jews and is not calling for Jews who do not become Christians to be burned at the stake. Why do liberals think Muslims who regard them as infidels are OK, but Christians who do are not?"

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Comments on Furor Over Anti-Islam Speaker

  • Video of MSU Event
  • Posted by Anti-Racist Blog , Video of Nick Griffin Event at MSU on October 29, 2007 at 5:45am EDT
  • Videos of the Nick Griffin lecture can be found here:

    http://antiracistblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/video-nick-griffin-event-at-michigan.html

  • For the record
  • Posted by Russ on October 29, 2007 at 7:25am EDT
  • Mr. Horowitz is many things. But anyone who spent a few minutes with Mr. Horowitz (as Ward What's-His-Name did, for a nice speaking fee) knows how pro-Israel Mr. Horowitz is.

    To imply that Mr. Horowitz would endorse a former Holocaust-denier would be like Bill Clinton endorsing more White House internships.

    Just judging by the Web traffic --

    http://forums.lsj.com/viewtopic.php?t=29485

    it is reasonable to assume that MSU-YAF, its opponents, and MSU had no clue who Mr. Griffin was. Obviously, MSU-YAF goofed, probably rattled by these experiences --

    http://youtube.com/results?search_query=tancredo+MSU&search=Search

    http://youtube.com/results?search_query=MSU+minutemen&search=Search

  • Horowitz Endorses Racism, as Usual: But for a Purpose.
  • Posted by Diogenes on October 29, 2007 at 8:15am EDT
  • Why is Mr. Horowitz continuing to endorse the absurd? To get attention. He and his pundits are has-beens, and he's not getting the campus invites he's come to expect ever time he throws more **** from his cage.

    Ignore the troll. Don't feed the troll. He's done the same thing ever since the Black Panthers rejected his application back when he used the same tactics as a disciple of Mao in the 60's. He'll sell his sword to whomever gives him attention...and money.

    All right wing pundits are paper tigers. LOL

    And keep "throwing onions" and calling me immature. If immaturity equals confronting evil, then may I always be a child!

  • Important Goals
  • Posted by Unapologetically Tenured on October 29, 2007 at 8:35am EDT
  • "Via e-mail, Horowitz said Sunday that his events served important goals..."

    Of course they did: they got people talking about David Horowitz and writing about David Horowitz. I suspect that those are the only goals that ever really mattered.

  • Fight fire with fire?
  • Posted by Bob on October 29, 2007 at 9:05am EDT
  • In a sense, Griffin's appearance at Michigan State was a fitting conclusion to the Horowitz-orchestrated Islamo-fascism awareness week. One sort of fascism is no better or worse than another sort of fascism. If universities are going to be in the business of sponsoring speeches by hate-mongers, let them sponsor hate-mongers of all stripes. Next year, they could add Neo-Nazis and KKK to the list. Perhaps, only fire can effectively fight fire.

  • No control over event at MSU signals big problems
  • Posted by Joey T. , Shame on the Demonstrators on October 29, 2007 at 9:45am EDT
  • Nick Griffin is bad, but the behavior of the protesters was shameful.

  • Posted by Ann Arc on October 29, 2007 at 10:02am EDT
  • "The event, Bristow said, was 'disrupted by intellectual fascists'."

    As opposed to the dumb-shit fascists who sponsored it.

  • Posted by truth machine on October 29, 2007 at 2:02pm EDT
  • "Nick Griffin is bad, but the behavior of the protesters was shameful."

    Ah, yes, of course, protesting against racism is shameful.

  • Re: fight fire with fire?
  • Posted by George Bruce on October 29, 2007 at 2:46pm EDT
  • "Fight fire with fire?

    In a sense, Griffin’s appearance at Michigan State was a fitting conclusion to the Horowitz-orchestrated Islamo-fascism awareness week. One sort of fascism is no better or worse than another sort of fascism. If universities are going to be in the business of sponsoring speeches by hate-mongers, let them sponsor hate-mongers of all stripes. Next year, they could add Neo-Nazis and KKK to the list. Perhaps, only fire can effectively fight fire.

    Bob, at 9:05 am EDT on October 29, 2007"

    Good point Bob. Let's go all the way. Also invite Maoists, Stalinists, Islamists and other groups with a track record for mass murder and oppression.

    Oh, wait, all those guys are already on campus. Never mind.

  • Posted by truth machine on October 29, 2007 at 2:50pm EDT
  • James Wagner feeds the hand that bites him. David Horowitz is an enemy of free speech and intellectual inquiry, and is trying to rid universities of liberal professors.

  • Posted by truth machine on October 29, 2007 at 2:50pm EDT
  • "it is reasonable to assume that MSU-YAF, its opponents, and MSU had no clue who Mr. Griffin was."

    They knew he was an anti-arab racist -- that's why they invited him to arab demonization week. It shouldn't surprise them that he was a bigot in other areas too.

  • Double Standard
  • Posted by ArcherB on October 29, 2007 at 3:50pm EDT
  • So why is it OK for Achmadenijad to speak at Columbia and not OK for Nick Griffin to speak at MSU? Both are foreign holocaust deniers. Both are known anti-semites.

    The only difference I see is that Achmadenijad is currently trying to find ways of killing as many Jews as possible while Griffin just denied that it happened before. Also, Achmadenijad has darker skin.

    I don't support either speaker, but if you are going to support free speech, then you have to support free speech for everyone.

  • Posted by Chaya on October 29, 2007 at 3:50pm EDT
  • Islamic Fascism Week is just that - against Islam being used as a political tool of repression. What is ironic is that this Nick Griffin has more in common with Islamic Fascism than he does with Mr. Horowitz!

  • Entertaining
  • Posted by Russ on October 29, 2007 at 5:25pm EDT
  • " .. They knew he was an anti-arab racist — It shouldn’t surprise them that he was a bigot in other areas .. "

    Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum was also one of Mr. Horowitz's speakers. Mr. Santorum is a lot of things -- an "anti-arab racist" is not one of them, most people would agree.

    Is it hard being the only one with "the truth?" Please don't strain yourself -- have a nice day.

  • Dear George Bruce
  • Posted by Ann Arc on October 29, 2007 at 7:00pm EDT
  • I will pay you $100 US if you can find one tenured or tenure-track Maoist on an American college campus. Or one (non-metaphorical) Stalinist. Your conflation of categories weakens whatever argument it was you thought you were making.

  • Posted by Janelle on October 29, 2007 at 8:45pm EDT
  • Why does "Freedom of Speech" seem like such a good idea as long as the speaker agrees with the preconceived views of the audience?

    Education involves being exposed to all points of view. Whether you agree with a speaker or not, he (or she) deserves to be heard.

  • Donate?
  • Posted by Russ on October 30, 2007 at 5:50am EDT
  • " .. I will pay you $100 US if you can find one tenured or tenure-track Maoist on an American college campus. Or one (non-metaphorical) Stalinist .."

    Well ..

    http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=Marxist+professor

    http://chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/

    http://humwww.ucsc.edu/FMST/facDavis.html

    http://dangerousprofessors.net/

    Donation can be made to the Missionaries of Charity.

    Gad, some days, this can be so easy ..

  • Easy?
  • Posted by Jeff on October 30, 2007 at 1:20pm EDT
  • Apparently easier than distinguishing between "Marxist" and "Maoist", I guess.

  • Sorry, Russ
  • Posted by Ann Arc on October 30, 2007 at 1:20pm EDT
  • You'll have to do better than that. A Marxist is not equivalent to a Stalinist. Find me one prof who has written anything identifying him- or herself with Mao's social policies. Or supporting Stalin's rule in the Soviet Union. One single piece of direct evidence & I'll cut a check to your charity.

  • Seriously, Ann
  • Posted by Scott McLemee , columnist at Inside Higher Ed on October 31, 2007 at 10:59am EDT
  • ...I am with you in spirit on this, but you had really better not pursue it unless you want to lose some money. I can think of two people who meet your criteria without even trying.

    One is a philosopher who has identified himself as a Maoist in his own books, published in the 1990s. The other is an English professor whose edition of Stalin's writings came with a glowing introduction, plus a happy, smiling picture of Uncle Joe on the cover.

    That said, people who endorse Stalin or Mao are extremely scarce in academe. (The fact that I know who they are has more to do with certain peculiar reading habits of mine than any significant presence of such folks in tenure-track jobs.) It would be much easier to find people who say glowing things about Pinochet's rule in Chile than it would to find a real Marxist-Leninist holding an academic position.

    Of course David Horowitz must strive to paint things the other way. That is because he has a lifestyle to support.

  • Posted by Charles Stuart on December 2, 2007 at 9:00pm EST
  • "It’s antithetic to the purpose of the event which is designed to expose Nazis and Jew haters"

    So...Islamo-fascists are only a problem if they are a danger to Jews?