News, Views and Careers for All of Higher Education
Nov. 14, 2007
— Doug Lederman, Scott Jaschik and Elizabeth Redden
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But did we not see this coming? In a situation where the President doesn’t value education, which is where we are now, what else would we expect? My only issue is why there aren’t enough people in congress who can see what is going on, and start to mount the challenges by voting to override his vetoes on important issues. Come on Congress- get your act together. We know the President won’t change, so it’s time for Congress to step outside party lines and do what’s right! Over ride the vetos!
Another Voice, at 9:15 am EST on November 14, 2007
Both New York Times article and your report failed to mention that the frustrated faculty members are mostly from the Arts and Sciences, and that the document of concern was read during a Faculty of Arts and Science meeting. The main point is not so much as what Bollinger did or did not do. It’s more about that he did not consult the faculty. New York Times mentioned – but your article did not – that a document supporting Bollinger is gathering increasing number of signatures (from across the University). The verdict is still out as to whether Bollinger has the support of Columbia community.
Carol, Columbia University, at 9:30 am EST on November 14, 2007
It never ceases to amaze me that professors, the majority of whom have little or no experience managing anything more complex than their classroom and gradebooks, have the arrogance to believe that they can be helful in managing a university. (University administrators are often bemused by the inverse correlation between what faculty want and that which will lead to the continued success and growth of the university.) A professor of physics would be insulted were a university administrator presume to me a master of his trade; why does that same professor not recognize his own rudeness when he offers to lead the university?
Thankfully, governed institutions of higher education are gradually being replaced by those that are led and managed with skill and precision. Governed instutions, especially those strongly led by faculty, are undoing themselves through their unresponsiveness to changes in the external environment.
Justin, at 11:40 am EST on November 14, 2007
Apparently if you want to make an argument against Bush, you need to devoid yourself of facts first.
NCLB funding has gone up more than 50% and Pell funding has almost doubled since 2001.
Bush’s administration proposed the deep cuts to lender subsidies and asked to put all that funding into Pell grants. Congress did indeed make those subsidy cuts, but didn’t concentrate all of the spending on Pell grants, choosing instead to make a few other spending decisions to buy off votes.
So let’s get real and use factual arguments before we argue that Bush doesn’t care about education.
Skeptic, at 3:00 pm EST on November 14, 2007
Facts, schmacts! Doesn’t anyone see the underlying futility in all of this? If the bill went through, EVERYONE would be funding tons of pork, and the college/university systems (from all the tangled web of private contractors to the state/private institutions themselves) would simply increase costs to meet that new level of available funding. The students would be left in the exact same situation as before.
This also doesn’t even address the fact that the contractor/institution cost increases (passed on to the student through increased tuition, fees and room & board bills) would continue to rise to meet the ever-increasing options in private lending. Mark my words, student lending is ripe to become the next “bubble” (a la mortgage lending). There’s tons of demand for recent college grads (especially with so many Boomers starting to retire), and plenty of supply, with more necessity than ever to get a degree just to even HOPE to survive in this cutthroat economy. Not only that, but there are plenty of wealthy people with good intentions throwing money at students without even seeing the irony that their own wealth is almost certainly derived in some form (investments, mostly) from economic mechanisms that are actually contributing to the broken system. I should know — I’m a grad student in San Francisco who works part-time for a non-profit that gives scholarships and college support to poor kids from SF public schools. Most of our kids exit undergrad programs with a moderate amount of debt to the Federal programs, but most of them go on to professional and graduate degrees and get nailed. Hard.
So the discussion needs to be about the FOUNDATION of institutional costs, not all the pointless, helpless band-aids that every administration (Republican & Democrat) places on this sucking chest wound every four to eight years.
Wake up, people — especially all you college students! Your government and institutions and our market economy are not going investing in YOUR future. You are a commodity to them, and they’ll make a percentage on your struggle to survive whether you’re successful or not. Case in point: Sallie Mae’s executive payouts.
Shane, Grad Student at Academy of Art University, at 7:55 pm EST on November 14, 2007
Pork is fine for Republican Congresses—no need for pay-as-you-go resolutions, or indeed, any control. Largest deficits ever? No problem! But all spending by Democratic Congresses must be opposed—except, of course, no-bid military contracts to friends of the administration. As the Bush administration has said of virtually anything Democrats have ever said that opposed Shrubbish desires, it’s just playing politics.
Thane Doss, at 10:30 pm EST on November 14, 2007
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Another Mark On The Bush Administration
Many years of work and Bush vetoes the bill. Not suprising but yet another mark against Bush for taking his personal war with Congress to the extreme of depriving the nation’s college students among others. Shame Shame Mr. President! I implore Congress to get back to work and get this thing back up the hill as soon as possible.
Sad Day, at 8:50 am EST on November 14, 2007