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February 21, 2008

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This week, Stanford University and Washington University in St. Louis joined a growing number of elite private institutions that have substantially increased grants for students deemed financially needy. Stanford's initiative will, in essence, eliminate tuition for students whose families earn less than $100,000. And Washington University is replacing loans with grants for students whose family income is under $60,000.

A panel of college leaders and outside experts led off its higher education discussion, "Does It Really Have to Cost So Much?," by putting the Stanford announcement, in particular, into context. While no one had anything negative to say about the effort to make college more affordable for students there, several panelists echoed a point that was made after Harvard University unveiled its aid initiative: What about everyone else?

The vast majority of students never would consider applying to Stanford or Harvard (largely because they wouldn't make the cut), and most colleges would argue that they'd love to offer such packages but can't because of their less gargantuan endowments. Patrick Callan, founding president of the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education, said it's a case of "very wealthy colleges" acting in a way that's beneficial to their own students, but that "presents a distorted view that this is the future of what Americans going to college will face."

"Only a handful of colleges can do this," Callan said. "It doesn't reflect the reality for most students going to college next fall."

Jared Bernstein, director of the Living Standards Program at the Economic Policy Institute, agreed that only a finite number of institutions can make such a pledge, but said it does increase accessibility if students who otherwise wouldn't think about attending Stanford end up applying.

The forum, co-sponsored by the nonprofit group Public Agenda and the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education, and held at George Washington University, included a broader discussion of the economics of higher education and how cost factors into enrollment decisions.

Callan said it's becoming increasingly possible to predict with success whether a student is likely to attend college or not based on the family income. Likewise, he said it's easier and easier to predict whether a student will go to a two-year public, state flagship or private college.

"It's very stratified by income," Callan said. "It turns out the choice is determined most often not by talent but by money, which isn't the system that Americans envisioned."

John Immerwahr, senior research fellow at Public Agenda, who helped write a study that looks at access issues, said that while all signals to students say attend college, more and more people perceive a higher education as being out of their reach. William E. Kirwan, chancellor of the University System of Maryland, said he agrees that the system is leaving students behind.

"We're on the verge of a huge crisis in our country because access to college is essentially the only chance to have a high quality of living and good income," he said. "Twenty, 30, 40 years ago lots of jobs didn't require a degree, but now if you're in the lowest (income) quintile and you don't go to college, odds are you'll stay in poverty."

Still, Bernstein and a student panelist argued that while some colleges might be out of reach for financially needy students, plenty of grant money is attainable for almost anyone who earns it academically and takes time to search.

Steven Knapp, president of George Washington University, said colleges can do a better job publicizing their aid offerings. Responding to a question about what it's like to hear the "most expensive college" label put on his institution, Knapp said "that's a problem" if the public focuses on sticker price and doesn't consider the aid packages. He pointed to the institution's affordability initiative that includes moderating the growth of tuition for all students.

Knapp also noted that, even with the current sticker price, George Washington isn't having trouble attracting students.

"The reality is when we look at our application numbers, we haven't seen evidence that our costs are deterring students from coming to our university," Knapp said. "This may be a factor over time, and there may be segments that will struggle [in paying the cost of attending.]"

Knapp said he's concerned about debt burden of students across the country and how it affects their post-graduation career choices. Callan added that a growing problem is first-generation students who aren't socialized into what he calls "the debt culture" and won't consider college if it means taking out any loans.

Moving toward more need-based aid and tuition-fixing policies (for entering students over their time at a given institution) were two cost solutions mentioned by Knapp.

James Boyle, president of College Parents of America, a four-year old advocacy group, said the perception from parents is that colleges aren't doing everything they can do to hold down costs. The Public Agenda report also showed that 44 percent of those surveyed consider "waste and mismanagement" a "major factor" in driving up the price of college.

Immerwahr said dozens of presidents he interviewed for his report reported feeling helpless in their ability to significantly cut costs by taking a piecemeal approach. They said they need more state and federal support, as well as help from private sources.

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Comments on Different Sides of the Cost Conversation

  • The Message for Low Income Students
  • Posted by Lucie Lapovksy , HIgher Education Consultant on February 21, 2008 at 7:40am EST
  • Although it is good to see many of the medallion schools reducing the net price to students from low and moderate income households, I am concerned over the message these actions are sending to most students from these income classes. Among the great majority of low income students who cannot gain admission to the top schools in this country, unless they attend a community college and even often if they do, they will need to work and borrow to attend college. The message I would take home if I were they is that it is bad to borrow and perhaps I should reconsider my plans to go to college. If those who are going to the schools with the best opportunity to succeed as the graduation rates are the highest in the country from these schools, are told that borrowing is bad, it is likely to make other students similarly situated economically to reconsider their enrollment decision.

    A college education is an investment with good, long-term returns. It is not bad for students to invest in their education and to borrow to fund it. It is much better that they borrow and go to college than that they choose not to attend at all. We need to monitor the situation and make sure that the messages which are now coming out almost daily that another school has joined the club of reducing net cost to the low and even moderate income students does not lead to a decline in the already abysmally low college going rate of low income students.

  • I don't know why all these schools are being congratulated...
  • Posted by R.F. on February 21, 2008 at 9:05am EST
  • all they have done is protected their own selfish interests!

    It is the management at these institutions that is directly responsible for the high tuition rates built up over decades. Further, they have had this money sitting in their endowments all this time and never considered this before their collective feet were held to the fire.

    Finally, all they have done is gauranteed themselves that the competition for their open seats will be greater than ever.

    When its all said and done, they have consistently protected their own selfish interest.

    This will only serve seperate the super rich schools from the merely rich, and will not help enough students from poor families to make much of a difference. The rich will get richer, and everyone knows what the poor will get.

    Further, this all just serves to obfuscate the issue for the vast majority of students that will not attend one of these schools.

  • Ivy-league business model won't work everywhere
  • Posted by John on February 21, 2008 at 9:15am EST
  • Obviously the ivy league business model can't work at every school, but I think the changes they are making there are a good thing overall.

    Tuition inflation is a huge mess and the schools that succeed are the ones that adapt out of the current model of unrestrained spending. I think increased use of electronic resources and recognition of self-educated students through testing & certifications can go a long way toward providing essential education services at reduced cost.

  • Posted by No Sucker , Author, No Sucker Left Behind on February 21, 2008 at 10:35am EST
  • Everyone has already pointed out that these new college discounts are not good enough because they only help a small number of students at a small number of schools. I'd like to add this thought: if these new discounts are encouraging more students to apply, what are colleges doing about the application fees? As I estimated on my blog (http://nosuckerleftbehind.blogspot.com/2008/02/harvards-new-profits-from-application.html), Harvard probably received an extra $260,000 this year in application fees (or 4,000 extra applications), due to its new financial aid programs. How is Harvard using all of that extra money? And were these applicants accepted to the school, or did the vast majority of them just throw $65 down the drain?

  • Because of Stanford, college costs are going to skyrocket
  • Posted by ACF on February 21, 2008 at 7:25pm EST
  • The reason the retail college cost has increased so much is because more grants are given out. Of course, the Universities can't simply print that money, so they have to keep increasing the retail cost (which is bourne by the most economically productive families in society).

    What should the cost of college be any different for anybody? Why should one family be able to decide that they can have one non-working spouse (thus lower family income) and not have to pay any tuition whereas those families who decide to have two working spouses now can barely afford to send their children to college (because they make too much money!)?
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  • Not Just Harvard
  • Posted by Matt Reed , Policy Analyst at Project on Student Debt on February 22, 2008 at 2:40pm EST
  • Few schools can follow the lead of Harvard, Stanford and others who have eliminated loans from financial aid packages completely. However, many public and private institutions can adopt policies to limit student debt and send the message to low- and moderate-income students that they can afford to attend the school. We have compiled a list of over 40 such institutions on our website (http://www.projectonstudentdebt.org/pledges). The list includes more than 15 public colleges and universities including several with relatively small endowments per student.