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March 25
There’s nothing like a conversation on “fostering a more civil society” during which a renegade audience member commandeers the microphone.
At a summit focused on “Imagining a More Civil Society: The University and the Jewish Community,” Monday’s opening forum was not just a discussion of, but also a demonstration of, a summit theme: the challenge of fostering civil discussion and debate on contested topics. Four university presidents — including one whose appearance prompted a protest letter from Jewish students, as the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported — spoke on the subject of a civil society in the context of the Harvard University scholar Robert D. Putnam’s research on social capital and connectedness, as well as their own experiences as university leaders. At the summit, held in Washington and sponsored by Hillel: The Foundation for Jewish Campus Life, panelists emphasized the need to build and foster networks of people like and unlike one another (the former being to build social capital of the bonding type, the latter of the bridging sort).
But it was not all cuddly and P.C. One participating chancellor, Michael V. Drake, of the University of California at Irvine, represented a campus that has been rocked in recent years by charges of an anti-Semitic atmosphere. Irvine is still reeling from a student-organized “Holocaust in the Holy Land” week in 2006 that equated Israel with Nazi Germany. Drake faced tough questions during and after the presentation centering on whether he has sufficiently condemned the controversial campus activities.
And a rabbi representing AMCHA — The Coalition for Jewish Concerns took over the microphone during the discussion — rather than wait until the question and answer portion of the program — to call attention to that group’s concerns. In an e-mail to Hillel’s president disseminated to the crowd, Rabbi Shmuel Herzfeld protests the summit’s inclusion of those like Drake, with “a spotty record when it comes to Israel advocacy” as well as “groups that advocate peaceful dialogue with Palestinians,” at the same time that organizations (like AMCHA) “that advocate very strongly on behalf of Israel on campuses” were allegedly excluded.
“It’s not a rah-rah environment,” Hillel’s president, Wayne L. Firestone, said of the purpose of the summit on Monday afternoon after its opening act. “It’s not to say … here we are, speaking to ourselves.”
In that opening act, Lawrence S. Bacow, president of Tufts University; Amy Gutmann, president of the University of Pennsylvania; and Donna E. Shalala, president of the University of Miami, joined Drake and Putnam in a discussion on “the conflicting pressures faced by university presidents” — the individuals at the helm of institutions meant to offer students safe spaces and challenge their preconceptions.
And, of course, the people in charge of damage control.
“At this moment, there’s probably someone on my campus doing something stupid,” said Shalala. “I live with that assumption.” But, likewise, she said, she lives with the assumption that administrators on campus will work to bring students together in the case of a divisive event — and that student leaders will be a step ahead. “They get it,” “it” being what’s needed for an environment where learning can take place, said Shalala, who earlier in her comments described a need for a certain level of civility on campus for learning to happen. “We can’t operate without it. We’re too open.”
“We all need safe havens, but we also all need to recognize how important it is to make these bridges among us,” said Gutmann. She acknowledged that it is easier to build bonding social capital — with the people who, as Putnam said, are likely to bring you chicken soup when you’re sick, than bridging social capital, with those who are different from you. But while bonding as opposed to bridging “is great for trust,” Gutmann said, “it is not great for creativity.”
The panel ended with a series of questions from audience members, including one who asked Drake why he has “refused to condemn these anti-Israel, anti-Jewish programs” on Irvine’s campus. In response, Drake quickly joked, “Could you repeat the question?” before rejecting hate speech more generally. “Hate speech has no place on our campus and our society and we reject it,” he said.
The summit continues through Wednesday in Washington. In other Hillel-related news Monday, the organization, which has affiliates on more than 500 campuses, announced the largest grant in its 85-year history. The $10.7 million grant from the Jim Joseph Foundation will support two educational programs: the Campus Entrepreneurs Initiative and the Experiential Educator Exemplar Program, which will expand to 10 campuses beyond the University of California at Los Angeles, where it was piloted.
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There is no such thing as a “Jewish community.” Individuals or groups that claim to speak for “the Jewish community” are politically-motivated liars.
A great many Jews are atheists, and are not “Jewish” in any meaningful sense except self-identification. A great many Jews oppose Zionism, and many oppose the existence of the racist Israeli state.
Anti-Zionism – for example, comparing Israeli fascism against Palestinians with Nazi fascism — is not in the least anti-Semitic or anti-Jewish. It is anti-Zionist.
IHE should stop referring to those who object to anti-Zionist activities as “Jews.” Many, many Jews, religious and not, ALSO oppose Zionism!
Those who support Israel should be called “Zionist", whatever their religious or ethnic commitments – there are plenty of Christian Zionists.
It is no more “anti-Israel” to condemn specific policies of the Israeli than it is “anti-American” to condemn specific policies of the US government.
Zionism, like anti-semitism, is itself racist because it supports the privileging of a single pseudo-"ethnic” group — “Jews", however defined — over others in Israel.
This is exactly parallel to the privileging of “Aryans” in Nazi Germany; of “whites” in _apartheid_ South Africa and in the Jim Crow South of our own country.
It is not only completely appropriate to compare Naziism with Zionism – it is accurate to do so, and false to condemn such a comparison.
It’s well known that some Zionists tried to ally with — Hitler! See Lenni Brenner’s article “Yitzhak Shamir: On Hitler’s Side", athttp://chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/essays/brennershamirhitler84.pdf
There’s much more information in Brenner’s excellent book “Zionism in the Age of the Dictators", on-line athttp://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/
It’s no mistake. Zionism and Naziism are very similar ideologies. Both are gutter racism, of course.
There should be no “Law of Return” for “Jews” to Israel.
That any “Jew", anywhere in the world, has the right to immigrate to Israel and gain citizenship, while Arabs who were born there have no such right and, in fact, are dispossessed, is racist, as were the similar policies of _apartheid_ South Africa or Nazi German.
The term “Law of Return” is Orwellian doublethink! The vast majority of Jewish immigrants are not “returning” there — neither they nor their ancestor have ever been there!
Meanwhile those who ARE native to the area — Palestinian Arabs — are expelled, oppressed, killed, dispossessed, in the most horrific, racist manner imaginable!
Anti-semitism is a vicious, dangerous form of racism which should be condemned.
Universities should be concerned with opposing racism. But they can’t do it without opposing Zionism, which is racism just as the KKK or the Nazis.
There should be no Zionist state, whether called “Israel” or anything else. Just as there should be no white supremacist state.
A secular state in which all citizens have the same rights — like the USA, for example — could scarcely be called “Israel,” a name denoting only one religious heritage.
Grover Furr, at 8:50 am EDT on March 25, 2008
Grover Furr’s hate-filled polemic against Jews and Israel demonstrates precisely why Rabbi Herzfeld’s comments were needed at the Hillel forum, and why the presence of pro-Jewish and pro-Israel groups on college campuses are desirable as an educative tool for balance. It is surprising that this site’s moderators would permit so blatantly hate-filled a tirade as a comment. It is not civil discourse. However, other than dismissing it as the ravings of an obvious bigot who has unquestioningly swallowed the most perverse pro-Arab and anti-Israel propaganda, and feels compelled to vomit it into a public forum, it bears some measured response.Furr’s (if that is his real name) rejection of the existence of the Jewish community (an unassailable fact), his denial of many Jews as being Jewish (with what support?), his absurd articulation that “many, many” Jews oppose Zionism (other than the tiny splinter Neturei Karta which are ostracized, and politically radical Jews who take up the Palestinian cause, there are few if any), his explicit assertion that Zionism is racist and “gutter racism” like Nazi Germany, apartheid South Africa and the old Jim Crow South, his outrageous assertion that Jews were allied with Hitler and the Nazis, and his call that there should be no Zionist state all clearly show that he is an anti-Semite of the new order.
He tries to distinguish “Jews” from Zionist, racist, Nazi “Israel” in order to condemn Israel (and its Jews) to destruction. This is identical to the propaganda campaign that has been, and is being, waged by Hamas and Hezbollah to poison the Arab world, and now the Western World, into a new version of Jew-hatred, disguised as Israel-hatred. The new pervasiveness of these canards and lies is precisely why education and balance in the press, in society and on university campuses is critical. Filth and lies like those being spouted by Grover Furr must be recognized for what they are: Arab anti-Semitism that considers Jews sub-human, Israel a state worthy only of destruction and its people only of slaughter.
Paul R. Taskier, at 9:40 am EDT on March 25, 2008
If Furr’s comments are “hate filled” — as Taskier asserts — I must have missed that particular attribute of his argument. What I interpreted Furr as saying (with a certain amount of angst) is that all forms of privileging a people or group based on race or ethnicity — particularly when those actions disadvantage others with equal claims — is racist. If Taskier is to be taken seriously, he will need to justify if and how Zionist movements (1) do not estrange others based on the same categorization used to promote their own agenda and (2) actually seek to foster a culture of tolerance.
B.L. Heuser, at 12:15 pm EDT on March 25, 2008
Paul, I don’t understand why you think identifying what sounds like segregation equals hatred towards Jews. Isn’t that like saying anyone who openly discusses racism in the United States is fostering hatred towards Americans? If we do NOT talk about it, then racism WILL grow because obviously, “no one is looking” and everyone is afraid to say the “dirty word.”
Perhaps you can define “Zionism” for those of us who don’t understand the various interpretations of that word. Anyone else, feel free to chime in with a definition as well.
kgotthardt, at 12:20 pm EDT on March 25, 2008
Mr Taskier’s response to me is a good example of a propaganda tirade worthy of Goebbels — or better, of Julius Streicher.
He refuses to engage the arguments I make. Evidently, he is incapable of doing so.
Instead he “name-calls", over and over again. My reasoned argument is a “hate-filled polemic". It is “not civil discourse", he says. Why not? Because HE DISAGREES WITH ME!
He gives no argument that there is a “Jewish community” in the sense he means and I deny — he just asserts it!
He claims I deny many Jews are Jewish. False! What I wrote is “A great many Jews are atheists, and are not “Jewish” in any meaningful sense except self-identification.”
He calls my claim that many Jews oppose Zionism “absurd” — and in the same sentence concedes that it is true.
He falsely says I claim Jews were “allied with Hitler,” when I posted evidence that some prominent Zionists did try to ally with Hitler, a fact widely known in Israel and one discussed in the Israeli press when Shamir became Prime Minister.
He falsely states that I want the “destruction” of Israel, when what I stated is this:
“There should be no Zionist state, whether called “Israel” or anything else. Just as there should be no white supremacist state.
A secular state in which all citizens have the same rights — like the USA, for example — could scarcely be called “Israel,” a name denoting only one religious heritage.”
He calls my statements “filth and lies.” More name-calling, utterly without substance.
Mr Taskier’s post is a good example of why there is just no talking to extreme Zionists. They refuse to engage in dialog, but instead shout, call names, and threaten.
Maybe they should just not be invited to speak when important issues like Zionist racism are being discussed? But I would not go so far.
Fanatic Zionists _should_ be invited! Their antics will go far to convincing any audience that Zionism is another form of fascist racism.
Grover Furr, at 12:20 pm EDT on March 25, 2008
It is hardly edifying to those of us made to endure the vitriol that laces your arguments. Unfortunately, academia has little defense against these partisan exchanges, having—at least since the late 1960s—found excuses for privileging admitted partisanship as legitimate academic endeavor.
But if I may, I would like to frame the problem from the point of view of an interested political scientist.
Ever since the close of World War II, the future of the modern nation-state as the ultimate historical player for humankind has seemed problematic. If the “sovereign state” is primarily responsible for its own viability and, concommitantly, the welfare of its own citizens, then what are we to make of the demonstrated fact that the modern state is capable of effectively unlimited power? By means of sheer slaughter, the Allies defeated the Axis powers. And, emerging from the ensuing Cold War, one nation alone has the power to destroy any other nation-state on earth.
That legacy, uncomfortably borne by the US, is one end of the modern state’s “definitional continuum,” so to speak. The other end is “nationality.”
It may not be an accident that the world’s most powerful state is not—because it cannot be—nationalistic in the ordinary, historical sense. The US started out nationalistically enough, from its English colonies origin, but even then the flood of European immigrants, plus the unwilling slaves from Africa, had started a process of assimilating nationalities to an extent that overwhelms any primary national identity (ethnicity, language, culture). But, just to make things tough, I guess, the US is joined at the hip with Israel, which is explicitly a claim upon nationalism as a basis for sovereign statehood in the world. I don’t think anyone needs to go all apoplectic over that assertion: Israel claims for itself a nationalistic identity and privileges those who fit the criteria of Jewish nationality.
So there’s the problem, in my view: It just _is_ a problem for our times, “it” being the future of the modern state, a la Max Weber. Will China assume the mantle of the next super-power state? She has the nearly unique means to do so (big enough to grow a world-sized economy within its, very broadly speaking, nation), but maybe the era of the modern state is past, and no state, not even China, can achieve 1st world economic levels without global interdependency. And what of nationalist claims to sovereignty? England, France, and Germany, at least, are struggling to accommodate a broader, extra-national definition of citizenship, and of course the EU bids fair to establish multi-nationalism in European states by economic default. In the US, rather sadly in a way, irresponsible charges against the government are now commonplace (again, since the late 60s), but then, it’s hard to take it too personally, so pluralistic is our identity. I think Israel will have to find a way to negotiate that unpleasant boundary, also, if she wants to continue into the foreseeable future as a sovereign state, because the halcyon days of “our kind of people” vs “their kind of people” are over, it would appear. People may hate a state——the state’s own citizens may be vocal among the haters, but it’s not genocidal hatred. That charge, in the 21st century, can be made in a civil war, perhaps, or against a brutal dictator, perhaps, but sovereign states should be multi-national to the core.
Rod Bell, Adjunct Professor at College of DuPage, at 12:30 pm EDT on March 25, 2008
My word — every time Grover Furr opens his mouth it’s like reading a paper written by a Freshman english major.
He titles his response as:
“Zionist slander and insults instead of argument”
Quite obviously referring to the words of a previous poster. He then follows up by slandering his opponent by equating him to the editor of Der Sturmer.
“Mr Taskier’s response to me is a good example of a propaganda tirade worthy of Goebbels — or better, of Julius Streicher.”
He jumps immediately to a violation of Godwin’s Law in the first sentence! This is not proper argument or debate at all. I don’t expect much from Grover Furr based on his previous postings and published beliefs, but I at least held out hope that he wasn’t a bare-faced hypocrite: he calls for debate, yet slanders his opponent with over-emotive language.
Assistant Professor, at 5:00 pm EDT on March 25, 2008
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Whose Speech is Free at Hillel?
It struck me as surprising in light of the professed tone of even-handedness in the Hillel-sponsored forum that Rabbi Herzfeld’s pro-Israel and anti-hate message should have been squelched by Hillel, and that he should have been man-handled away from the microphone. Certainly in a Jewish context, his message, that it is unacceptable to permit hate-filled anti-Semitic speech (and actions) on a university campus — as Chancellor Drake apparently allows, is one that is unexceptional. The question therefore is why Hillel didn’t allow him to pose it. Plainly, the issue is alive, but it is puzzling why a rabbi, and the representative of a Jewish group active on campuses, would be muzzled when he tried to point out the fundamental discrepancy in First Amendment rights between allowing Arab-American groups to equate Israel with Nazi Germany and not allow Jewish groups to challenge that position. The principles of free speech and advocacy, both on our campuses, and sadly at the Hillel forum, have strayed far from the constitutional standard required in the rest of our society.
Paul R. Taskier, at 8:45 am EDT on March 25, 2008