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April 21, 2008

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Around this time of year, colleges regularly issue press releases boasting about the percentages of minority students they have admitted this year or that will enroll in the fall. But what happens after they enroll?

A report being released today by Education Sector suggests that, at many campuses, the gap in the graduation rates of black and white students is embarrassingly large, raising questions about the experience of black students once enrolled. The report finds that some institutions -- including those outside the elite ranks of private higher education -- have strategies that result in black students graduating at relatively similar rates to white students, while other institutions appear to accept gaps of 25 percentage points or more in the rates.

The new report, "Graduation Rate Watch: Making Minority Student Success a Priority," is largely based on data that colleges are required to report on graduation rates, broken down by race, under the Student Right-to-Know Act, which was enacted in 1990 with a major of drawing attention to the historically low graduation rates of athletes. While that was the goal, the law required colleges to report graduation rates on all students, for comparison purposes, making possible the kind of analysis Education Sector has done.

Nationally, about 57 percent of students at four-year institutions graduate within six years -- with some private colleges reporting rates well above 90 percent year after year while others have rates that are quite low. Black students disproportionately attend colleges with low graduation rates for black students. Only about 30 percent attend colleges with six-year graduation rates of 50 percent or higher. About 50 percent of black students attend colleges with six-year graduation rates for black students that are less than 40 percent.

Or as the report puts it in another way, black students are two-and-a-half times more likely to enroll at a college where they have a 70 percent chance of not graduating than at a college where they have a 70 percent chance of graduating.

"College opportunity for minority students doesn't end with the admissions process," said Kevin Carey, author of the report and the research and policy manager at Education Sector. Colleges, he said, "have an obligation to give support" to the students they admit. If they admit black (or other) students with poor academic preparation, "and if you do nothing," the graduation rates will differ by race. But he said that if you do offer additional help, students can succeed.

The report contrasts those colleges with graduation rates that are similar for black and white students with those that have large gaps in their rates.

At 17 colleges, the report notes black-white graduation rate gaps of 35 percentage points or more, for students who enrolled in 2000. (Rounding in some cases makes the points appear off by one.)

Colleges With Large Black/White 6-Year Graduation Rate Gaps

College Black Students' Rate White Students' Rate Gap in Percentage Points % of Black Students at the Institution
Catholic U. of America 25% 72% 47 points 6%
Saint Thomas U. (Fla.) 25% 69% 44 points 24%
College of Mount St. Joseph 21% 65% 44 points 10%
Gwynedd-Mercy College 38% 79% 41 points 15%
East-West U. 10% 50% 40 points 69%
Baker U. 25% 64% 39 points 7%
Olivet Nazarene U. 17% 56% 38 points 9%
Friends U. 11% 48% 38 points 11%
Rowan U. 36% 73% 37 points 9%
McKendree College 57% 20% 37 points 14%
Savannah College of Art and Design 38% 74% 36 points 6%
U. of St. Francis 27% 63% 36 points 7%
Concordia U. (Ill.) 23% 59% 36 points 14%
Bloomsburg U. of Pennsylvania 31% 65% 35 points 6%
Wayne State U. 10% 45% 35 points 26%
Lewis U. 24% 59% 35 points 12%
Southern Nazarene U. 14% 50% 35 points 11%

The colleges with very large gaps included public and private, and a mix of institutions in rural and urban areas. While not making this list, many other prominent universities with significant minority enrollments -- and including institutions that have stressed the importance of diversity -- also have large gaps in black-white graduation rates. The University of Michigan at Ann Arbor has a gap of 19 percent, Indiana University at Bloomington has a gap of 22 percent, Michigan State University has a gap of 24 percent, and the University of Cincinnati has a gap of 24 percent.

Colleges with very small black enrollments were not included. The study briefly explores trends in graduation rates at historically black colleges, where average rates for all institutions are low, but where there is a split between institutions with competitive admissions (which tend to have high rates) and other institutions, which tend to have low rates. The report also notes that historically black colleges enroll "a disproportionately large share of first-generation and low-income students, who tend to be at a higher risk of dropping out."

The report also acknowledges flaws in the six-year graduation rate (the measure used by the federal government), and notes that at some institutions, where many students stop and start their educations, a longer rate may be appropriate. Likewise the report notes widely discussed problems with using graduation rates to compare institutions, which may have radically different missions, student bodies, and educational programs. But the report argues that "disparities within institutions" are legitimate to explore.

Officials at some of the universities that the report found to have large gaps said efforts were already taking place to narrow those gaps. James Mackin, provost at Bloomsburg, said that his institution did have a problem in the past, but that the strengthening of programs to help students improve their academic skills were already having an impact. Year-to-year retention rates have become similar for black and white students, he said, so he expects to see a narrowing of the gap in graduation rates too.

W. Michael Hendricks, vice president for enrollment management at Catholic, warned against reading too much into any one year's data, since figures fluctuate from the "snapshot in time" of any year's statistics. He said Catholic was reporting figures for the year after the cohort studied by Education Sector that show a gap of only six percentage points, with the black rate more than doubling from the year highlighted in the report. Hendricks called the 25 percent black graduation rate an "anomaly," but acknowledged that it was "woefully low," adding that the university expects to see improvements "because we are committed to providing students the programs and services they need to be successful."

Carey, the report's author, said he would be pleased to see improvements at any of the institutions identified as having large gaps in his report. While there are shifts from year to year, he said, he hoped any college with a large gap -- for even one year -- would consider why such a disparity existed, and what could be done about it. And he said that institutions with large gaps, and subsequent improvements, needed to make sure those improvements were "sustained over time."

Not surprisingly, the report finds that some elite colleges -- with very competitive admissions for all students -- have hardly any gaps at all. But the report draws attention to institutions that do not either have billions in their endowments or sit atop the rankings that nonetheless have small or no gaps in the graduation rates of black and white students. At Florida State University, for example, the report notes that the black graduation rate tops the white graduation rate, 72 percent to 69 percent. The same is true at the College of Charleston; George Mason, Towson and Winthrop Universities; the State University of New York campuses at Albany and Stony Brook; and the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa -- all of which also have black graduation rates of at least 60 percent.

"If there is a single factor that seems to distinguish colleges and universities that have truly made a difference on behalf of minority students, it is attention," the report says. "Successful colleges pay attention to graduation rates. They monitor year-to-year change, study the impact of different interventions on student outcomes, break down the numbers among different student populations, and continuously ask themselves how they could improve."

As an example of an effective intervention program, the report points to Florida State University's Center for Academic Retention and Enhancement. The program, known as CARE, sponsors outreach to disadvantaged students (based on socioeconomic status, not race, but two-thirds of whom tend to be black) in middle and high school. Then the program helps them through the admissions process, even if they are not at equivalent preparation of other applicants -- but conditioned on the applicants' agreement to participate in a summer program before the start of freshman year, and subsequent academic training activities for the first two years they are enrolled. The program also provides funds to offer extra sections of freshman math courses, with smaller class size and daily meeting times. While CARE students aren't required to enroll in those sections and they aren't limited to CARE students, many opt to do so, and on average perform better when they do so.

The Education Sector offers a range of possible steps that might have a national impact on closing the gaps in graduation rates of black and white students:

  • Changing rankings formulas. The report notes that the second most significant factor in U.S. News & World Report's rankings -- counting for 16 percent of total scores -- is the six-year graduation rate. But the report notes that because there is no accounting for subgroup rates, an institution like Indiana University (72 percent rate overall, with large black-white gap) is judged to be better than Florida State (68 percent over all, without a black-white gap), and questions whether this is fair. While U.S. News, in some of its rankings, also gives points for "predicted graduation rate" (a category that rewards colleges that have higher than expected graduation rates for the socioeconomic range of students enrolled), the report notes that this is weighted with much more influence and isn't even used in all rankings.
  • Improve graduation rate measures. The report notes a range of frustrations with graduation rate calculations required by the federal government, and suggests that fixing these problems would make more colleges pay attention to the rates -- and racial gaps in them.
  • Change state funding formulas and accountability systems. Many state appropriations formulas are enrollment-based, the report notes, and while this would seem an incentive to focus on retention, that isn't always the case. Because effective strategies to improve poorly prepared students' academic performance are expensive, state formulas and accountability systems need to place more of an emphasis on retention and graduation of all student groups.
  • Improve accreditation standards. The report notes that accreditors stress the ability of review teams to evaluate colleges based on their missions and circumstances, and praises this approach. "Nobody expects open access institutions to match graduation rates in the Ivy League," it says. But the report goes on to note that among institutions with similar financial resources and similar student bodies, graduation rates for black students and the black-white gap vary widely, suggesting that some institutions should be held accountable for low rates. "And the fact that some accredited colleges and universities have minority graduation rates in the single digits suggests that there is literally no amount of persistent graduation rate failure that can put an institution's accreditation at serious risk," the report says.

One issue that is not mentioned in the report, but that its author acknowledges will surely come up in discussion of it, is affirmative action. Ward Connerly and other prominent critics of affirmative action have frequently cited low graduation rates of minority students as evidence that some are being admitted to institutions where they may not succeed -- and they have argued that these students would benefit from attending institutions where their academic preparation is aligned with student expectations.

Carey strongly disputes that approach and said he thinks the findings in his report show the opposite. If Florida State and other institutions are able to admit significant numbers of black students -- many of them coming from poor high schools -- and graduate them at high rates, that suggests that fault at institutions with low rates may rest with the institutions, not the students. "I don't think it's a race issue," he said, but a question of institutional commitment to helping the students who are admitted.

"Colleges admit students with a diverse range of academic backgrounds for a lot of good reasons," he said. "But they have an obligation to give them support." He added that many studies show white male students are not doing as well as while female students "and no one suggests that we stop admitting white males."

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  • Stunning data, Scott
  • Posted by Buzz on April 21, 2008 at 6:55am EDT
  • This data is long overdue. Next question for the university P.R. departments to spin on: why?

    Of course. They need more money. And this is the year for the Cubbies. And Ralph Nader will run in 2012. And the Irish will wear green on March 17, 2009.

    It is not a P.R. problem. It is a look-in-the-mirror problem and changing things to be more productive.

    Fewer meetings. More action. Demanding more results. More accountability. Greater transparency.

    Not waiting five years to do something, so someone can "get their pension increase." Demoting and transferring non-performers. Making tenured and unionized non-performers teach night and weekend classes.

  • Required: Comprehensive Approach
  • Posted by Richard Lyons , Senior Consultant at Faculty Development Associates on April 21, 2008 at 7:45am EDT
  • Piggybacking on the excellent points that Buzz makes, I would caution all against a rush to get something going. What is called for here are not P.R. campaigns and centralized initiatives that put more responsibility on the enrollment management folks alone, but a comprehensive, systematic program that provides both full- and part-time faculty members with some sound strategies for improving their retention by amounts immediately, but that retain academic rigor. Such is type of work in which we specialize. Over time, significant results can be attained only through an approach in which faculty are truly invested.

  • For maximum enlightenment, start by counting everyone
  • Posted by Cliff Adelman , Senior Associate at Institute for Higher Education Policy on April 21, 2008 at 7:45am EDT
  • As Kevin Carey acknowledges, we have a graduation rate formula problem that really prevents us from targeting improvement efforts to produce better results. By limiting the denominator to fall term, full time, we exclude 40% of entering students from the universe. By allowing optional reporting of transfers-in, we exclude as much as 35% of all bachelor's degree recipients from being acknowledged at all (the GRS counts only those who finish at the same institution at which they began). That's just the beginning. Then, we cap completion at 3 years for community college beginners and 6 years for 4-year college beginners, neither of which reflects the realities of attendance patterns of our students. Lastly, the most significant difference in timing, paths, and completion rates is between your daughter and your brother-in-law, i.e. by age at point of entry. If you want to bring a zoom lens and macro to bear on what happens to African-American students, start including everybody (part-time beginners and beginners in the winter and spring terms as well as the fall), divide by age at point of entry, extend the reporting dates to 4 and 6 years for community colleges, and 8 years for 4-year colleges, and include a separate bin for transfers in. Texas has run its data with a variation on this formula, so has Florida, and Indiana is now doing it, too. That ought to tell you something. In the meantime, Congress is considering using the HEA Reauthorization to layer the existing formula with bizarre grids of variables, thus making bad data even worse---and doing so without any hearing, testimony, or public scrutiny. So contact the Education committees, tell them to take that nonsense out of the HEA and to set a new table for an open reconstruction of graduation rates that will tell the kind of story that helps us focus our efforts.

  • Who cares
  • Posted by Martin on April 21, 2008 at 8:35am EDT
  • Who cares how many we graduate, right, we got them to school in the first place. Isn't that all that the government wants to see, that we gave the minorities the opportunity? Having said that I have long advocated that we must, as a nation of higher education professionals, insist that we not only open the opportunity for minorities to study, but make sure we provide them with the services they need to navigate the system and ultimately graduate.

  • Posted by End it now on April 21, 2008 at 8:45am EDT
  • If affirmative action were a fight the ref would have stopped it. It clearly damages not just its white and Asian male targets but the purported beneficiaries. And with regard to the comment "that many studies show white male students are not doing as well as while female students “and no one suggests that we stop admitting white males”" of course we have stopped admitting males; check the sex ratio nationally; females outnumber males on campus by about 3/2.

  • Consider ....
  • Posted by David D-VA on April 21, 2008 at 9:40am EDT
  • Looking at the list of schools with small majority-minority differences: the actual graduation rates are really problematic for many of these schools. Should they be the ones being highlighted for some sort of success?? It is to be considered good that one's black graduation rate is in the 50's or 60's, which many of these schools are, just because your white grad rate is as well? This is CRAZY! This is NOT success. Isn't it MUCH better that a school have a 10% to even 15% differential and have the black grad rate at, say 82% and the white one at 92%? Graduating 82% is WAY better than graduating 62%, or 52%. This report makes too much of the differential, rather than the absolute values. Those matter more, and they should be the primary focus.

  • there's a simple explanation for this
  • Posted by Clayton E. Cramer on April 21, 2008 at 11:15am EDT
  • As Thomas Sowell has pointed out, prestige colleges want black students attending--and actively recruit black students who would not be considered for admission if they were white. The administration can feel good about how liberal they are, but the net effect is that a lot of black students drop out of schools for which they are not prepared--who might graduate from a less demanding institution. Is it better for black students to drop out of Berkeley, instead of graduating from San Jose State?

    There are some very serious problems with a lot of the primary and secondary schools that have disproportionately black populations. Affirmative action in college admissions doesn't solve those problems. It just makes the administrators feel better about themselves--without helping black students who were not quite prepared for the academic demands of schools for which they are mismatched.

  • And one more thing ....
  • Posted by David D-VA on April 21, 2008 at 11:15am EDT
  • Two things actually. There are some real and serious anomalies in this study due to two inter-related effects which the PI could have corrected for, and should have:

    (1) use of single year statistics: this entire study is based on the graduation rates of a single entering cohort. Bad practice, particularly for minority graduation rates. The school for which I did IR for 13 years had a black graduation rate of 100% for the cohort being studied here. Great success! And it genuinely is. The next cohort will have a black grad rate (6-year) of 77%, which is about this school's long-term average. The data used for this study are unavoidably full of this type of single year anomalies.

    (2) Small numbers: many school's entering black cohorts are so small that the percentages published here are unavoidably anomalous, and so often are misleading as to the institution's real success in black graduation rates, and for others their actual lower rates than those studied here. Note that above, I deliberately did not provide the absolute numbers in the cohort with the 100% 6-year black grad rate. It could be only 8 or 8. Or 80 or 80.

    Each of the related problems is addressable. the data are readily available form the Dept. of Ed. GRS database, where these data were taken. Averaging, say, the three most recent years' data would have given a much more reliable, accurate picture.

    Overall, this is a troubled analysis. At least so at the institutional level, which is how much of the data are presented. INTERPRET WITH CAUTION! The whole story, in some cases the real story, is not in this report, nor in this study.

    What is really problematic here, to me, is that the phenomenon being studied is real - and does need attention. But this is a bit of a slap-dash job of it. It's unfortunate, particularly when it could have been done much better with only a little more work.

  • Why Race?
  • Posted by Stanislav , Why Race? on April 21, 2008 at 11:30am EDT
  • Do we really believe (a la the Bell Curve) that skin color is an important cause of attrition?

    Unless there is blatant discrimination present, isn't it more plausible that there are underlying variables like socioeconomic, prior preparation, attitudes, etc. that are the actual predictors of stop-outs? For example, it's know that first-generation students have lower graduation rates nationally. Without more information, the statistics in the article are hard to interpret.

  • Gap in graduation rates of black and white students
  • Posted by Bruce Munson , Instructor, Psychology at St. Louis Community College at Forest Park on April 21, 2008 at 11:30am EDT
  • It seems to me that a part of the solution to eliminating the academic achievement gap between black and white students is to due a systematic analysis and overhull of the nation's public school system. That's where most of our students of color, especially African-American and Latino/a attend. The quality of education in many of the public school systems are mediocre, at best. Why is that? I contend for many reasons: too many students in a classroom, overworked teachers, out of date curricula, poor funding, etc. Aren't primary and secondary schools the places where students, supposedly, learn the fundamental skills that will be needed in post-secondary education? Increasingly, the students in our primary and secondary schools are of color i.e. Black, Latino. Eventually, these students will be applying to and ,hopefully, entering the nations' colleges & universities. Should we not do all that we can, at the beginning of their educational careers, to insure their success in college?

  • Can't be waived away so easily
  • Posted by Prof Challenger on April 21, 2008 at 11:45am EDT
  • The obvious explanation for low black graduation rates -- that they aren't as well prepared than other students -- shouldn't be dismissed with an airy wave of the hand. The poor black performance that everyone's so shocked by is the inevitable result of lowering standards to get more black students into college. It's time to dump this harmful approach, and instead focus on improving the preparation of blacks for college.

  • public schools
  • Posted by Clayton E. Cramer on April 21, 2008 at 11:50am EDT
  • Bruce Munson suggests that the problem is that public school systems are where most black students are going. But that's true for most white students as well. If there is a problem, it is in the inner city public school districts (which are disproportionately black)--not just public schools.

    Affirmative action admissions are a salve for liberal consciences, but to really fix the problem means fixing inner city schools. In the meantime, ending racial discrimination in admissions would mean that students who aren't prepared for Harvard--but might be prepared for San Jose State--at least get to graduate, instead of dropping out.

  • Coincidence
  • Posted by Pangloss on April 21, 2008 at 12:00pm EDT
  • Does anyone think it's odd that five of the 17 schools (29.4%) listed here are in the Chicago area? Could the graduation gap in college have anything to do with the enormous gap in secondary school funding between minority and majority areas that is so pronounced in Illinois?

  • graduation rate gap
  • Posted by Bill Lundgren , Professional Development Advisor at NAfET/Teachers College on April 21, 2008 at 1:20pm EDT
  • as a consultant who works in two inner city schools in NYC, I can attest unequivocally that the roots of this issue begins in elementary, middle and secondary schools that are under-funded, under-staffed and under-equipped (e.g., lack of working computers). We are not dealing with a level playing field--how can we expect students of color to suddently perform at the same level as their peers who attended schools with twice the financial investment per pupil? This is a systemic problem that is the result of the classism and racism that infects American society.

  • Study Methods
  • Posted by Kevin Carey , Research and Policy Manager at Education Sector on April 21, 2008 at 3:15pm EDT
  • David D-Va is wrong to say that "this entire study is based on the graduation rates of a single entering cohort." It's based on six years of data, all of which is published in the report. The institution we highlighted, Florida State, has little or no graduation rate gap for each of those six years. The report also notes:

    "Other institutions [listed], such as the Richard Stockton College of New Jersey, achieved graduation rate parity in 2006 after years of typically large gaps. It’s possible that these results represent the fruits of new programs and initiatives designed to help minority students. They may also represent one-year statistical flukes. At others, like the University of North Carolina-Wilmington, graduation gaps have fluctuated up and down over the years. In both cases, graduation rate gap results should be interpreted with caution."

    The report also excludes institutions with very small numbers of black students, for exactly the reasons David D-VA describes.

  • Dead Horse
  • Posted by Martin on April 21, 2008 at 4:35pm EDT
  • If this horse hadn't been dead so long and I hadn't beaten it as much as I have, I would probably write something pithy and opine to the hilltops; however, we keep studying and talking about the problem with very little, if any, real substantive change. It makes for a good read and maybe it makes some of us feel like the good guy, but the truth of the matter is very little progress is being made. I say we go back to the basics, to the elementary and high school levels, we can't get minorities to the completion level at high school in numbers much over 25%, how do we ever expect them to become college graduates? Just a humble, no opined, opinion.

  • Absolute grad rates vs. differentials
  • Posted by Alex , Asst. Prof. on April 21, 2008 at 5:15pm EDT
  • Isn’t it MUCH better that a school have a 10% to even 15% differential and have the black grad rate at, say 82% and the white one at 92%? Graduating 82% is WAY better than graduating 62%, or 52%. This report makes too much of the differential, rather than the absolute values. Those matter more, and they should be the primary focus.

    I get your point, but there's more to consider: A low overall rate may be a symptom of factors innate to the type of school and population, while the differential shows that some students are under-performing relative to their peers.

    Suppose that students at a commuter school take a long time to graduate because a lot of them are juggling school with jobs and families. It should be no surprise that the 6 year graduation rate is low compared to, say, residential institutions. The question is whether the commuter school is doing as well as can be hoped for under those circumstances, and comparing with some other school that has a higher graduation rate may not be a a valid comparison.

    However, suppose that while the school is doing a good job given the time demands on their students, some groups of students are graduating at lower rates than others. This suggests that while the school is doing a relatively good job of addressing the needs of, say, commuters, it's serving some commuters better than others.

    So, a low graduation rate compared to other schools might still be respectable performance under the circumstances, but differentials between groups of students at the institution may mean that not all students are benefiting from the school's overall respectable efforts.

  • Earlier than High School
  • Posted by Susan Coia Gailey on April 21, 2008 at 7:55pm EDT
  • Review the high school transcripts of the non-graduates (regardless of race) at a college -- non-graduates who did not transfer out to another 4-year college but, rather, did indeed drop out of college. What proportion of the drops entered HS clearly unprepared for HS? What legitimate college has a magic wand for that? Deficits take root long before HS and college.

  • Using Minorities as Scapegoats
  • Posted by Donald Ray Jenkins , The Rev. Dr. at Independent Scholar on April 22, 2008 at 4:55am EDT
  • I am tired of ignorant and prejudiced people who eternally blame affirmative action and lack of elementary and secondary school preparation as the reasons for the low academic performance and graduation rates of some black university students at historically white institutions. Affirmative action alone does not guarantee the admittance of black students to prestigous universities nor is poor academic preparation the reason blacks often do not graduate from certain predominately white institutions. The real culprits are the cultural shock many black students experience when they enroll in majority institutions, the indifference and systemic prejudice--among fellow students, faculty, staff, and administrators--black students face at majority institutins, and the lack of strong support networks--both internal (for example, empathetic black and white faculty members) and external (for example, empathy and compassion from members of the communities in which the schools are located).

  • Income?
  • Posted by Jack on April 22, 2008 at 4:55am EDT
  • I briefly looked it over and the report seems to make some good remarks about the ways in which race and income are inextricably linked in this country, but its subtitle belies this. It's clear from a large number of studies that much of the difference in educational performance between the races can be attributed to socio-economic status, that is, race isn't the important factor, except insofar as it is linked to class.

    And doesn't this quote actually blame pre-college education?

    "If universities reach out to at-risk students
    years before they arrive in higher education, providing additional resources and support for the transition to college and ultimately throughout the entire undergraduate experience itself, at-risk students can succeed at the same rate as their peers."

  • The Graduation Rate Gap
  • Posted by Tim Fay on April 22, 2008 at 11:35am EDT
  • Few of us would doubt Carey's assertion that academically under-prepared college admittees benefit from extra attention and from remedial instruction. However, when confronted with legitimate complaints that affirmative action exacerbates these academic differences, Inside Higher Ed reports a sarcastic, dismissive comment from Carey: "… many studies show white male students are not doing as well as while female students (quoting Carey here) 'and no one suggests that we stop admitting white males.' " Huh? Neither Ward Connerly nor any serious critic of affirmative action that I know of has ever advocated that we stop admitting black students! We should, however, stop using the cloak of affirmative action to place students at schools which academic standards are way above their heads. You don't have to be black, or green, or purple to suffer the competitive disadvantages of attending a college which standards are much higher, and which course work is much more demanding, than the preparation you received from your local K-12 schools.

  • Tired
  • Posted by Martin on April 23, 2008 at 10:45am EDT
  • Know what I am tired of? African Americans like Dr. Jenkins constantly blaming the white community for the failure of blacks in higher education. We all have things that we could point to if we want to blame our failures. I grew up dirt poor in a rural Southern community where blacks and whites were all disadvantaged. I pulled myself out of that environment, with the help of wonderful parents yes, but I had many African American friends who did the same. Success is determined by desire, drive, and determination - not whining and pointing fingers. Affirmative action doesn't work because it gives people too many excuses for failure and not enough reasons for success. I will be so glad when the "old guard" from the civil rights era is replaced with the current crop of successful African Americans who understand what real success is determined by.

  • Labor Movement, Systems Theory, Wisdoms of Color
  • Posted by Emily Monroe Norton on April 23, 2008 at 1:20pm EDT
  • ". . .but to really fix the problem means fixing inner city schools."

    This can't be done of course, without funding. But even that may not be adequate. Families--extended families--and communities need healing. Prior to education is financial security and hope, like my working class family enjoyed ONLY AFTER THE LABOR MOVEMENT OF 100 YEARS MADE THAT POSSIBLE FOR WHITE FOLKS LIKE MY PARENTS.

    To Clayton E. Cramer. Yes, Jonathan Kozol has written that segregation is worse now than when it was official in the South.

    To Donald Ray Jenkins and other like-mindeds: I applaud your remarks.

    Jack: I'd say race IS the important factor and IS linked to class, which IS the important factor as well as gender which IS also the important factor.

    Martin: If I understand you correctly, the system is o.k. Any individual who doesn't "get religion" (a metaphor for getting motivated) and pull up by the bootstraps has only her or himself to blame. Therefore, why all the hand wringing about graduation rates? The system is working as it should, weeding out the motivated from the lazy. There is nothing to be done in ANY of our institutions, not the workplace (labor movements) not social services, not restructuring of the economy so that wealth circulates more evenly, not early childhood, not K-16 education. The system is just fine.

    That's what King George and about 1/3 of the colonists thought before the American Revolution. As we all know, the American Revolution transformed an illegitimate class system into a perfectly legitimate one, didn't it? (Remember that under King George it was also possible for a few individuals to combine all manner of lucky intangibles with personal motivation and get ahead. They just had to figure out how to play that system.)

    I concur with Jed Leland who elsewhere (where are you on this Jed?) said the answer to the education crisis lies both inside AND outside it. Education and research should be "within you and without you." It’s a politics that cuts across many features of life, not just inside the box of "education reform."

    African Americans and other students of color, for example, should be encouraged to research the ancient wisdoms of their geographical origins instead of being forced to learn only "white," western heritages. And that knowledge should be blended in with traditionally western versions of wisdom so we can all--for the goddesses sake--benefit. What a concept!

  • Let me get this right
  • Posted by Martin on April 24, 2008 at 5:00pm EDT
  • So, let me get this right, Emily. You are saying that living and functioning in a society that rewards hard work and allows for failure is wrong. That we should excuse everyone who is lazy and provide for them, that we should discourage wealth and spread it all around, that we should make colleges and businesses open their doors for those who are not the best and the brightest, effectively closing the door for those who might be the best and the brightest. You, my dear, are advocating communism, and that has been proven to be a complete failure, not because the theory is wrong, but because the hard wiring of human kind will always favor those who take initiative, show promise, it is in short the survival of the fittest. I do not now, nor ever foresee that anyone will be able to convince me that Affirmative Action in its current form, is effective. Do you wish to allow our African American youth the excuse to fail, or the demand to succeed. I have lived on nearly every side of the fence that there is, I have witnessed first hand the failures of affirmative action, and I have witnessed first hand the success of determination. Those with the will to succeed will, those without will never no matter how many doors we open for them. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime.....

  • let me suggest the role of social capital ...
  • Posted by lynn mertz on April 26, 2008 at 10:35am EDT
  • for my dissertation I looked at 50 independent colleges/universities around the country - it is my belief that one of the roles of higher education is the creation/nurturing of social capital (bridge-building, bonding, trust, networks, etc) and that institutions that foster social capital within their college community provide a service, in particular, for students who come from non-college-going communities. Using a series of indicators from the NSSE survey as proxies for measuring social capital, I looked at these 50 institutions, their graduation rate gaps and how their students perceived social capital and indeed, those who saw their schools as actively addressing diversity, building relationships with faculty, saw their institutions as trusting, caring environments ... were institutions which had smaller graduation rate gaps. All students have social capital - but the capital needed to survive/thrive in higher ed and after may be different and therefore needed to be cultivated during the college experience.

  • Let You Get This Right
  • Posted by Emily Monroe Norton on April 28, 2008 at 12:15am EDT
  • Martin, Afraid you still haven't got it right. Not all your fault. It's hard to explain one paradigm to another. Books and articles abound for you to read. You may not adopt all their "conclusions." But some deep reading in areas otherwise foreign to you might yield insights that would help you understand at least where I might be coming from.

    I can only replace your claims with mine here. Neither of us can do much refuting without evidence and reasoning. There isn't space, my dear. (Would you call me "dear" if my pseudonym were a masculine one?)

    The question is not whether people should be allowed to fail. Of course we should be. It's how we learn. Rather, the question is whether we learn (with failures, false starts, etc.) how to devise a socially responsible economy such that--get this--whole groups of people aren't set up to fail, made vulnerable and more exploitable. If we are actually producing, not just allowing, failure, then blaming the victims shows that it is we who don't know how to fish.

    Why? Rereading Darwin, it has been argued, apprises us that by "survival of the fittest" he meant "best adapted to the environmnet," which meant that cooperation was more important than competition as the reason why humans are still on this earth.

    Affirmative Action for dominant ethnic groups has long been around. Affirmative Action is an attempt to redress that.
    We should be teaching ourselves as a species how to fish in a socially responsible and environmentally sustainable way. But seeing everything as a competition blinds us to those alternatives.