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May 5, 2008

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Most of the graduating seniors at Washington University in St. Louis weren't even born when Phyllis Schlafly led the successful campaign in the 1970s to defeat the Equal Rights Amendment. But they will get to learn about her at commencement ceremonies next week when the university awards her a doctorate of humane letters.

Some at the university find the choice offensive, given Schlafly's career. She turned her opposition to the ERA into a national organization called the Eagle Forum through which she has campaigned against gender bias laws, Title IX, the teaching of evolution, and immigration reforms designed to expand the pool of foreign scientific talent allowed into the United States.

Schlafly continues to write columns in print and online, and to speak on college campuses nationwide -- frequently setting off controversy with her open call for legal distinctions between the rights of men and women. At Bates College last year, for example, Schlafly called for bans on women holding the positions of firefighter, soldier and construction worker and argued that a woman cannot be raped by her husband. "By getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape," she said, according to an article in The Sun Journal.

The announcement last week from Washington University about the honor doesn't feature the controversy about Schlafly, but notes that she has two earned degrees from the university (undergraduate and law) and calls Schlafly a "national leader of the conservative movement," a "prolific writer," and "a motivator and organizer of grassroots activism."

While critics of the decision to award the honor to Schlafly noted that the announcement came at a time that students and professors were busy with the end of the semester, some reaction has been immediate. Students set up a Facebook group called "No honorary doctorate for anti-feminist Phyllis Schlafly" that features links to information about her, as well as a link to a Northwestern University announcement that it was uninviting Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the former pastor of Sen. Barack Obama, to attend graduation ceremonies this year and to receive an honorary doctorate.

Northwestern said that it didn't want controversy to interfere with the "celebratory character" of commencement. "If Northwestern can rescind an offer to maintain the 'the celebratory character' of commencement, can't we do the same?" asked one participant in the Facebook group.

The Facebook group had attracted 745 members as of Sunday afternoon. Several postings suggested that students boycott fund raising drives by the university to protest the honor for Schlafly. The group's information states: "Do her views fit with the future the men and women of Wash U's graduating class see for themselves and their peers? Probably not. Then why honor her with them? Wouldn't having someone like her in the midst of Wash U's female graduates be incongruous at best, offensive at worst?"

Mary Ann Dzuback, director of women's and gender studies at Washington University, and an associate professor of education and history, said that professors were stunned and angered to learn of the planned honor last week. "The university has completely disregarded the concerns about anybody who cares about full and equal rights for women, who cares about the intellectual quality of feminist debate, and who cares about women's desire to enter the work force," Dzuback said.

Dzuback stressed that she would not object to Schlafly being invited to lecture at the university, and that she would defend such an invitation -- just as people with a range of views are regularly invited to appear. But she noted that Schlafly "isn't coming her to speak," but to "be honored." Added Dzuback: "This tells the world that this administration thinks so highly of the honoree that they give her the highest degrees the university can give, the highest degree of respect. And that is deeply troubling."

No one is suggesting that honorary degree recipients must be politically popular, Dzuback said. "We may have political disagreement" with some past recipients, but Schlafly is different in that she has argued for very specific policies that would limit the right of women generally and Washington University graduates specifically to hold some positions. "This is a woman who has spent her whole career arguing against full rights for women," she said.

Washington University released a statement Sunday in which it said that honorary degrees require a unanimous vote of the Board of Trustees and are nominated by the unanimous vote of a board committee that is led by a trustee but that also includes students and faculty members. The statement noted that past honorees have reflected a wide range of political views, and that the university has honored civil rights leaders like Jesse Jackson and Julian Bond; political and government leaders such as Madeleine Albright, John Major, Patricia Schroeder, John C. Danforth, Paul Simon and Richard Gephardt, and many others.

"Over the years, Washington University, like many universities across the nation, has chosen to grant honorary degrees to noted individuals from around the world, as well as those alumni and members of the university community who have become a part of the broad public discourse on vital issues of the times -- whether or not the majority of those within its community agree with the views expressed by those individuals," said the statement. It added that, given the diversity of views at a university, "it would be impossible to make a selection with which everyone would agree."

As to the controversy over one of this year's selections, the statement said the following: "Alumna Phyllis Schlafly's articulation of her perspectives has been a significant part of American life during the last half of the 20th century and now the 21st century, serving as a lightning rod for vigorous debate on difficult issues where differences of opinion are profound and passionate. Not only should a university serve as a place where such discussions take place, but it may also choose to recognize those who provide leadership and articulation -- both pro and con -- on vital issues."

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Comments on Is Phyllis Schlafly Worthy of an Honorary Doctorate?

  • Posted by Diogenes on May 5, 2008 at 8:05am EDT
  • No. She is not.

  • Phyllis Schlafly Honorary Doctorate
  • Posted by Gregg Schulte , CFO at Jefferson Comm. & Tech Coll on May 5, 2008 at 8:20am EDT
  • Phyllis Schlafly is absolutely and without question worthy of an honorary doctorate degree. She is a great American! She is well deserving of the honor. Washington University has made the right decision to grant her this honor; and surely they would not now back down because of the complaints of some liberal students. Please, University, hang in there with your convictions; do the right thing. Award her the doctorate.

  • Logic
  • Posted by She's a man. baby! on May 5, 2008 at 8:30am EDT
  • "...and argued that a woman cannot be raped by her husband. “By getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don’t think you can call it rape,” she said, according to an article in The Sun Journal."

    The logical conclusion, then is that women should never get married so that they don't have to abdicate their rights...ultimately an odd argument for someone who stands for traditional marriage to make.

    Yup, she is a motivator for sure!

  • Poor Phyllis
  • Posted by Joe Beckmann on May 5, 2008 at 9:20am EDT
  • That she should be attacked for unanimous nomination by a representative Board and its committee is shocking in today's America. That unanimity says everything about Washington University, its compassion and its commitment to graduates and to diversity of opinion. Were this the 1930's, I'm sure they would have similarly honored Father Feeney and Huey Long. Were Washington University as international as it pretends, those honors might have gone to Hitler and Mussolini. Too bad we're not there and then, because that might have shortcut World War II.

  • A HIT JOB
  • Posted by chris b on May 5, 2008 at 9:30am EDT
  • Scott:

    The one article you link to in the Sun Journal is a total smear piece. To assert, as the author JT Leonard does that Schlafly "contended that married women cannot be sexually assaulted by their husbands" is a complete lie. If the quote offered in support of this assertion wasn't made up whole cloth, it was certainly offered in a specific context regarding certain cases that the author has intentionally distorted. Schlafly is a lawyer, and it isn't hard to understand what her position is on this subject from her voluminous writings, if one were inclined to simply do some basic research. Instead, you pass along this smear.

    I have no trouble with people opposing an honorary degree for her, but your account of Schlafly's views is grossly distorted rather than analytical and dispassionate. This is unusual for IHE, which generally is informative and useful.

  • worthy?
  • Posted by A woman with a real PhD on May 5, 2008 at 9:35am EDT
  • What a vile and disgusting person. She is the antithesis of all things academic. Shame on Washington U.

  • Whuh?
  • Posted by Carol on May 5, 2008 at 9:35am EDT
  • Schafly - far from being deserving of an honorary degree - is about the most undeserving person I can think of. Her views go beyond 'conservative.' They show her own misogyny. Washington will lose considerable reputation over this one. That the university would choose to bestow the highest honor available upon her is mind-boggling.

  • Free speech at Wash U
  • Posted by Armando on May 5, 2008 at 9:38am EDT
  • How dare the Board of Trustees honor someone whose views differ so radically from Professor Dzuback's! Why, such a thing might even get some of Dzuback's students to begin asking the professor some embarassing questions. We can't have that! What do they think they are runnning, a university??

  • Phyllis Schlafly
  • Posted by SC Educator , Business/Reference Librarian at Midlands Technical College on May 5, 2008 at 9:45am EDT
  • As a defender of free speech, I would have no issue with Ms. Schlafly being invited to speak.
    But surely the university has other more worthy and less divisive persons they could honor, particularly in this election year.

  • Chris B is wrong.
  • Posted by LarryJ on May 5, 2008 at 9:45am EDT
  • Schlafly absolutely believes a woman cannot be raped by her husband, as is evidence by this link to her own site, "Twenty Years In Prison For Having Sex With His Wife."

  • She's an outstanding alum
  • Posted by Hank on May 5, 2008 at 9:50am EDT
  • A principled person; I don't always agree with her conclusions, but I respect her arguments, and certainly her right to voice them. To connect her with Wright-Northwestern is just absurd, but typical of academic "reasoning" these days. She is a credit to the University and the Naiton, grow up!

  • Posted by Chris Leogrande on May 5, 2008 at 9:50am EDT
  • Not unless the degree is a Doctor of Hipocracy ... this woman has made a career out of denigrating the rights of other women. I was apalled that, in 2008, she could even be considered for this.

  • Posted by MN guy on May 5, 2008 at 9:55am EDT
  • NOBODY should be awarded an honorary doctorate. The whole idea of an honorary degree is stupid. The purpose of such 'degrees' usually has to do with public relations - 'lets get someone famous to campus and get on the news' or a development strategy - 'let's suck up to this person and maybe they'll bring some cash to the endowment'.

  • More evidence that sexism is still okay...
  • Posted by Morphew on May 5, 2008 at 10:00am EDT
  • Schlafly has made many statements that women, because of inherent physical limitations, should not be allowed to participate in specific jobs, ranging from construction to fire-fighting to the military. She has also argued that if is morally wrong for a mother to work outside the home.

    Can you imagine if analogous statements were made about non-whites? Would WU be offering that person an honorary doctorate? My guess is no.

  • link
  • Posted by LarryJ on May 5, 2008 at 10:00am EDT
  • http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/feb06/06-02-08.html

  • NO LARRYJ
  • Posted by chris b on May 5, 2008 at 10:10am EDT
  • I read the article you pointed out, Larry. It casts doubt that IN A SPECIFIC CASE a man who was convicted of raping his wife was justly convicted. It also points out what she contends are problematic aspects of Michigan's spousal rape law. Her viewpoints on this issue may not convince you, and they don't convince me, either. But if you think that a fair summary of her position is that "a woman cannot be raped by her husband" then I suspect that you are impervious to reasoned discourse.

  • Posted by saxo on May 5, 2008 at 10:10am EDT
  • I wonder how Dr. Ternberg feels about sharing a platform with Phyllis Schlafly. Clearly the two were chosen to balance one another as WUSTL grads, but I think the balance is skewed far to the right in this case.

  • Honorary Degree to P. Schafly
  • Posted by John David Ober , Doctor at Retired on May 5, 2008 at 10:25am EDT
  • What an outrage. This woman has opposed nearly everything that a liberal arts education represents and fosters. As her next door neighbor said to my father, "While this woman roamed the globe defending what she called 'Family Values,' her own children were being raised by nannies.

    By all means invite her to speak. But to bestow honor on this woman -- hypocrite and
    anti-humanist -- is fatuous.

    B. A. Washington University (1960)
    Phi Beta Kappa
    Professor of European History (retired)

  • not about conservatism
  • Posted by The Nonpartisan on May 5, 2008 at 10:35am EDT
  • To Gregg Schulte:

    The objection to Schafly's doctorate isn't--or shouldn't be--based solely on her conservatism. Certainly no significant hue and cry was raised by John Danforth's award, or John Major's. But Schafly has dedicated, and bizarrely so, her entire career to eliminating opportunities for women, and diluting their rights. Her award can thus only be seen as a punishing insult to fully half the student body at Wash. U. What notion of being "a great American" survives all that?

    There are certainly other conservative women, far less toxic and with much greater contributions, who merit sincere consideration. But then, the award does say more about Wash. U.'s selection committee than it does about Schafly, doesn't it?

  • Intolerance by Fascist liberals
  • Posted by sgtsavage , Dr on May 5, 2008 at 10:50am EDT
  • The hypocrisy of the "educated" liberal education elite shows up again to quiet dissent by respected leaders who try to protect women's rights. Dr. Phyllis Schlafly is more than Worthy of an Honorary Doctorate of her alumnus institution. All graduates and students should be proud of this lady who worked hard during her lifetime to protect the traditional rights of women. The deterioration of these rights by "liberated" women have seen their children grow up unprepared for the new world and their education drop in the USA below so many countries in the world. Thanks to Dr. Schlafly this trend has been slowed. She is a bedrock for women's rights as those liberal educated institutions noted so well for blocking free speech continue to lessen the quality of life for women. Wake up young ladies and listen to your Dr. Schafly!

  • Phyllis Schlafly
  • Posted by Cindy Klumb , DRC Coordinator at Pratt Institute on May 5, 2008 at 11:05am EDT
  • She is a traitor to her gender and deserves nothing but our disgust. Women still don't have the same protections under the constitution as men and she led the fight against us finally becoming full citizens. I hope every woman in attendance turns their back on her at the ceremony.

  • Who's 'worthy?'
  • Posted by Russ on May 5, 2008 at 11:10am EDT
  • But surely the university has other more worthy and less divisive persons they could honor, particularly in this election year.

    Well .. Northwestern University just "released" The Rev. Dr. Wright of Chicago from his obligation to speak at their graduation.

    He's available -- would he be "more worthy?" Don't be evil -- don't be sexist, don't be racist. Just don't .. "don't."

  • I am all for...
  • Posted by She's a man, Baby! on May 5, 2008 at 11:55am EDT
  • Phyllis "the misguided misogynist" vs. The good Reverend "wrong is" Wright in a

    steel cage "death" match. Jerry Springer could referee.

    What Fun. It is entertainment the whole family could watch.

  • Posted by justaguy on May 5, 2008 at 11:55am EDT
  • Phyllis Schlafly speaks for many, many women in this country.

  • "Is Phyllis Schlafly Worthy of an Honorary Doctorate?"
  • Posted by M. Jerry Meketon on May 5, 2008 at 11:55am EDT
  • Under the guidelines given in the last paragraph, Adolph Hitler would have been at the top of the list for an honorary degree.

    Jerry Meketon

  • Fascist Liberals?!?
  • Posted by SusanB , AVP/Director of the library at Dakota State University on May 5, 2008 at 12:25pm EDT
  • As defined by the American Heritage Dictionary -- fascism is defined as "a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with beligerent nationalism."

    Liberal is defined as "1. Generous in amount or in giving. 2. Approximate, loose. 3. Of or relating to the cultivation of general knowledge and the humanities: the liberal arts. 4. Broad-minded, tolerant. 5. Favoring civil liberties, democratic reforms, and the use of public resources to promote social progress n. one holding liberal political or cultural views.
    So, Fascist Liberals is an excellent example of an oxymoron. If anyone fits the facist label in this story it would be Ms. Schlafly. She only came to prominence, in my opinion, because she was the only female lawyer voice speaking against the ERA and Phil Donahue and others were required by then FCC standards to provide equal time for opposing viewpoints on each program on the ERA. As I recall she was the pretty much the sole voice against ERA and one of her main arguments was we would all be forced to use unisex toilets. Been on an airplane lately?

  • Isn't It Ironic...
  • Posted by AlsoawomanwitharealPhD at Typical State University on May 5, 2008 at 12:45pm EDT
  • that those who are so ready to honor a man or woman who bravely faces opposition in order to bring attention to views they support are unable to tolorate or treat with civility, much less honor, a similar person with whose views they disagree. We may not like or agree with Schlaffley's views and accomplishments, but she has been a key player representing the views of a not insignificant number of women in the past several decades and stimulating vigorous debate. Is it not about time that we show some of the liberal university's keenest critics that we can respect and even honor people whose views do not fall in line with liberal orthodoxy? Instead of protesting and boycotting, let's demonstrate our own ability to tolerate other perspectives without descending into ad feminam polemical attacks.

    On that subject, the comparison of Schlaffley to Hitler is a ridiculous straw man (straw woman?) argument. Such approaches just make us look like irrational scare-mongerers instead of thoughtful critics.

  • Posted by Jason on May 5, 2008 at 12:50pm EDT
  • While I’ve never been a Schlafly admirer, her life-long articulation of conservative philosophy shouldn’t be reduced to slogans and a bullet-point list of politically incorrect taboos. One might even read her works and examine the context! I remember my days in academia surrounded by men and women who were more concerned with how one comes to a conclusion. Now a simple litmus test allows the complete dismissal of a person’s corpus.

    Let’s wait until they give an honorary degree to Jeremiah Wright … or Ward Churchill. We’ll surely hear about the closed-minded critics who reject the Black Church or Native Culture because of an out-of-context quote. Oh, that’s right I forgot; diversity doesn’t include social conservatives.

  • Schlafly
  • Posted by DBL on May 5, 2008 at 1:05pm EDT
  • With regard to Schlafly's skill as a lawyer, she was dead on in one of her legal criticisms of the proposed Equal Rights Amendment. She said that courts would interpret it to strike down laws limiting marriage to a union between a man and a woman, i.e., requiring gay marriage. At the time, she was ridiculed for making this prediction - her critics said that she was inventing absurd scenarios to scare people - but time has proven that she was right.

  • What if?
  • Posted by An Old Goat on May 5, 2008 at 2:00pm EDT
  • Seems odd that Schlafy would so vigorously defend traditional roles for women and yet find so little to criticize about the effects of women's suffrage. Doesn't feminism owe a large debt to women's suffrage? (It seems likely that Schlafy would believe it has 'exacerbated' it, so to speak, fueling issues like the ERA.) If Schlafy had been an inhabitant of the 19th century, not the 20th, what would she have had to say about the agenda of Susan B. Anthony & her allies?

  • is any ideology correct 100% of the time?
  • Posted by Joe Viscomi on May 5, 2008 at 4:05pm EDT
  • i went to Ms. Schafly’s website and read several of her articles and commentaries - i did not find one where i agreed with her viewpoint but she is articulate and, imo, does propose interesting ideas/questions that are relevant to society; i myself would argue to different conclusions than Ms. Schafly - one cannot deny that her opinions are controversial but isn't that the goal of scholarship? debate and question, seeking resolution - while i in no way support any of her arguments, is there anyone who would argue that women’s right’s has been positive in every possible contingency? every possible case? there is, again imo, still work to be done.
    it seems to me that most of the poster's here today prefer group-think instead of rigorous debate - thanks.

  • Is Phyllis Schlafly . . . worthy.. . . .?
  • Posted by Amy De Rosa on May 5, 2008 at 4:35pm EDT
  • Yes,she is. ...and the title of this article belies Inside Higher Ed's negative bias. Unfortunate.

  • Posted by Emma , graduate student on May 5, 2008 at 5:05pm EDT
  • Sure, and why not give her a radio show while we are at it? I don't care if she is articulate. She articulates archaic, hateful messages that demean women. Why on earth would we celebrate someone like this?

  • Posted by Wolf Heydebrand , Prof Emeritus of Sociology at NYU on May 5, 2008 at 5:05pm EDT
  • It's not so hard to figure out why Wash U chose to give her an honorary degree. One comment said that the Board of Wash U is "diverse", but doesn't it stand to reason that Danforth might have either suggested or condoned it? And if so, wouldn't the Board give its consent? Who in the current Bush administration would have openly challenged any of the "leader's" policies, especially since Republicans have "esprit de corps" and value consensus?
    Speaking of "leader", the comment on "liberal fascism" was right on the button: the concept is an oxymoron. Its use shows that the reactionary ideology of Phyllis is not only self-contradictory, but an insult to the democratic aspirations of the women's movement. Should we now turn around and fulminate against "conservative fascism"? I agree that Wash U did not help itself in the eyes of potential students and the academic public by giving this honorary degree. I think it should have gone not to a reactionary critic, but an enlightened critic like Barbara Ehrenreich or Katha Pollitt.
    An ex-professor of sociology at Washington U.
    Cinco de Mayo, 2008

  • Phyllis Schlafly
  • Posted by Ghita Lapidus on May 5, 2008 at 7:45pm EDT
  • Shame on you Wash U.

  • Posted by Steven S. Hoffmann , Undergraduate Student at Washington University on May 5, 2008 at 7:45pm EDT
  • I especially enjoyed when Mary Ann Dzuback, director of women’s and gender studies at Washington University "said that professors were stunned and angered to learn of the planned honor last week." It reminds me of Maureen Stanton, a Professor at UC Davis, who was "stunned and appalled" when she heard that Larry Summers was going to give a speech there. It also reminded me of the female biologist from MIT who walked out of Summers's talk, "later saying that she felt she was either going to faint or throw up."

    You can read my reaction to the controversy at http://media.www.studlife.com/media/storage/paper337/news/2006/03/01/Forum/In.Defense.Of.Larry.Summers-1642028.shtml

    One wonders if Dzuback is planning on installing fainting couches in the faculty lounges of her department for all the stunned, appalled, angry, fainting, and vomiting professors who are of such weak disposition.

    My favorite gesture was her comment "that is deeply troubling," a worthless remark that I have discussed in depth here:
    http://media.www.studlife.com/media/storage/paper337/news/2006/01/20/Forum/Semantics.Or.Substance-1478742.shtml

    It's always the same, lame story with these people. I liked Harvey Mansfield's quote. He is a professor of government at Harvard: "these people are mostly the feminist left and its sympathizers. They fear that affirmative action will be abolished and diminished. They want more diversity, which means, paradoxically, more people like themselves. They want to run the university."

    We don't need any more people like Dzuback or Schlafly.

    Steven S. Hoffmann
    Washington University
    Class of 2008

  • Posted by Dennis Ruhl on May 5, 2008 at 7:45pm EDT
  • It's an honorary doctorate folks. It's not as if it's anything meaningful. At least she never had to pay for it with a million dollar donation.

  • ChrisB vs LarryJ vs Phyllis Schlafly
  • Posted by DaveF on May 5, 2008 at 7:45pm EDT
  • LarryJ, thank you for allowing Ms. Schlafly the courtesy of speaking for herself (http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/feb06/06-02-08.html).

    That said, the link shows her to be a passionate defender of justice and common sense, even when she personally might benefit by exploiting victimization cant. Would that everyone were as honorable -- few are. ChrisB is right.

  • Wash. U. students organize
  • Posted by Students Protest on May 5, 2008 at 8:35pm EDT
  • The student paper of Washington University, Student Life, just posted an update to the Schlafly story---specifically about efforts by students to protest the decision to award her a degree that go beyond creating a Facebook group.

    http://media.www.studlife.com/media/storage/paper337/news/2008/05/05/News/Students.Organize.To.Protest.Schlafly.Degree-3364820.shtml

  • So what
  • Posted by Sam Koneig on May 6, 2008 at 4:15am EDT
  • "No one is suggesting that honorary degree recipients must be politically popular, Dzuback said."

    Maybe the article should have added, "As long as I agree with the view."

    Personally,I agree generally with the comment that opposed honorary degrees in general although I can swollow them for big donors: hey, they mean nothing and if they help generate a new lab for me, great.

    However, Dzuback should be upfront and say that she opposes this one because she doesn't agree with the recipient's point of view. That's fine, but pluuueeeezzzzeeee, keep the theatrics down.

  • Posted by Justagal , To justaguy on May 6, 2008 at 4:15am EDT
  • Dear justaguy,

    Why do you think "Phyllis Schlafly speaks for many, many women in this country?" Your pen-name would indicate that at the most she could be expressing your opinions, but certainly could not be representing you as a woman. Are you thinking of someone in particular when you make that claim? Or is that an empty statement intended to lend some sort of inflated legitimacy to her hypocritical, intolerant, retrogradative statements?

  • Posted by Sadly Cynical About Academia at Washington University in St. Louis on May 6, 2008 at 4:15am EDT
  • Dennis says:
    "It’s an honorary doctorate folks. It’s not as if it’s anything meaningful. At least she never had to pay for it with a million dollar donation."

    Don't you think the University is going to want something of the kind? Prominent St. Louis university, presenting its third degree to a prominent member of a prominent St. Louis family (which has plenty of money from having a not-so-prominent St. Louis beer, and more from the prominent attention the one has gotten from the media and her intolerant supporters all over the country for 40 years)... come on. Easy choice. It's kind of like conscription in the early Roman Empire, only this time you don't kill the patricians with whom you disagree for their money, you kiss it right out of their pockets. I hope the Board is employing that sort of attrition as a justification among themselves for such an unjustifiable action.

  • The Non Partisan
  • Posted by kathleen on May 6, 2008 at 8:50am EDT
  • You could not have said it better!!!

  • Posted by Jessie B on May 6, 2008 at 10:15am EDT
  • Imagine exactly how everyone would respond if this was a race issue--someone advocating that people of color take a backseat as far as rights and that any discrimination they face be deemed a "consent" to such behavior since they've applied for a job, or education, or any other myriad of things.
    This is absurd!

  • Money, money
  • Posted by Elmo on May 6, 2008 at 10:15am EDT
  • If Schlafly WERE to contribute a million dollars for, say, a "feminist studies chair", why do I think several of her attackers here would be first in line to apply? One way in which she is different from academics is that she seems able to function in a world where not everyone agrees with her. Perhaps that should be made a precondition for honorary degrees? Or perhaps we should do as someone sugegsted and just give up honorary degrees altogether? (Except for those of the WVU variety perhaps?)

  • Phyllis Schlafly Spousal rape in context
  • Posted by J. Whitchurch on May 6, 2008 at 11:50am EDT
  • I can understand that some don't likek Schlafly. I'm one of those rare birds that gets hit from both sides because I like her on some issues and disagree on style and sometimes substance on other issues.

    The issue of quoting her on spousal rape DOES (not surprisingly) have Context and for those with a desire for more truth and less heat, check out this link http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/feb06/06-02-08.html or do a google search on 'Phyllis Schlafly wife rape and read the article on the Eagle Forum web site. Context is Everything. Web blog raves..not so much.

  • Posted by Terri Hicks on May 6, 2008 at 12:30pm EDT
  • Graduation is supposed to honor the graduates. The inclusion of Phyllis Schlafly on such an occasion is an insult to the women who are graduating. Awarding honorary degrees which conflict with the students who actually earned their degrees sends the wrong message.

  • Phyllis Schafly
  • Posted by E. Farleigh on May 6, 2008 at 12:30pm EDT
  • Phyllis Schafly has a right to her opinion but to make a broad declaration about marital rape which she knows nothing about is over the top. She obviously has never aquainted herself with battered women's issues and is still living in her 1950's bubble. Just what is it she thinks women are actually supposed to do in their lives according to her? Be very careful Phyllis, you are dangerously close to keeping women subjacated to men as in the Taliban - these people are our enemies..remember? Our precious freedoms are what over 4000 men have died in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last five plus years to defend. Would she so easily give this up? Sounds oxymoronical to me.

  • Yes she is worthy of Honorary Doctorate....
  • Posted by David Alan on May 6, 2008 at 12:45pm EDT
  • Mrs. Schlafly has inspired countless women to the high calling of motherhood & homemaking, in a culture where the prevailing 'wisdom' tried to paint such aspirations as passe.

    As such, has inspired the raising of many children (both male & female) for proper service to their families, churches, communities & their states.

    This makes her a great Christian Patriot, as well as an exemplary leader & communicator.

    I say this as great admiration as a husband & father. My wife (and other women of our acquaintance) was inspired by her to both gain a degree in Primary Education & then to apply it in homeschooing our own children.

    That Phyllis has the courage to speak 'truth to power' and engage in calling women to seek genuine & lasting worth as homemakers & the formitive influences upon the next generation of children, who will in turn become our nation's leaders, is laudable.

    Of course, this is anathama to the Feminist effort to 'deconstruct' genuine Christian womanhood. Which is why Phyllis is truly worthy of this honor - she adds courage to vision.

    I will be most proud of Washington University if they resist the pressure, and hold fast to this recognition.

    It will prove that Unity and Diversity (the basis of "Uni-Versity", right ?) exist in a crucial balance, so that both sides in any debate may be presented for a respectful hearing.

    Many thanks,

    David Alan
    East Texas

  • column on martial rape
  • Posted by Martha on May 6, 2008 at 12:55pm EDT
  • E. Farleigh, I would suggest you read the column that Ms. Schlafly wrote on a PARTICULAR case of alleged martial rape. JLarry is wrong when he and others interpret it to say that Schlafly says a wife cannot be raped by her husband. Anyone reading the article with an open mind will see that. (sorry, I don't have the link handy but it has been mentioned several times in these postings) I don't agree with everything this woman stands for but unlike so called liberals with their supposed open minds, I am willing to try to see both sides.

  • calm down, people
  • Posted by dorothy on May 6, 2008 at 12:55pm EDT
  • Steven Hoffman makes a good point. Feminists and others engaged in righteous controversy need to stop citing their feelings (of physical revulsion, of hopelessness, whatever) in their arguments. I've followed Schlafly's career since the mid-1970s, and I think it is fair to describe her the way I would a Jewish anti-semite, as a self hater. That said, she started out merely arguing against the worst excesses of identity politics. We may disagree with women being banned from police and fire departments, but it is troubling to have the stringent physical requirements for these and other jobs relaxed in order to promote diversity. As to the nausea and such that she provokes in honest women (myself included) my advice is to throw up by the side of the path where the rest of us won't step in it, and keep marching.

  • Posted by chris b on May 6, 2008 at 1:56pm EDT
  • E Farleigh said that Schlafly makes "a broad declaration about marital rape."

    Can you point out this "broad declaration" to which you refer? Not a statement by someone else purporting to represent what she said, but a statement or a writing of HERS that qualifies as such "a broad declaration?"

    If you read the comments above, I think you'll conclude that the sources asserting that she believes "a woman connot be raped by her husband" are simply lying or distorting her views. Why IHE won't retract this smear in their article when there's no evidence of it other than to link to an article that a cursory amount of research discredits is a puzzle to me, given their usual regard for fairness and accuracy.

  • Schlafly on marital rape
  • Posted by Mike Murphy , Dr. at Washington University on May 7, 2008 at 5:25am EDT
  • On March 28, 2007 while speaking at Bates College (Maine), Schlafly said this:

    "By getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape."

    That's a clear endorsement of the legality of rape within marriage. It perpetuates the notion of women as male property. People. As property. There's a word for that, isn't there?

    You can read about it here: http://www.sunjournal.com/story/205234-3/LewistonAuburn/Schlafly_cranks_up_agitation_at_Bates/

    She's made and written similar comments in the past. Search her Eagle Forum newsletters for other examples.

  • TRUTH STILL LACING UP ITS SHOES
  • Posted by chris b on May 7, 2008 at 9:05am EDT
  • Really impressed with your research skills, Mr. Murphy. You pass on the same smear piece cited by IHE from The Lewiston Sun Journal written by someone who is not a staffer for the paper. So you've proven that someone (you think he or she was objective?) said that Schlafly said something, but you haven't shown me anywhere in her writings where she says anything resembling the proposition that "a woman cannot be raped by her husband."

    I guess I shouldn't make fun of your research skills, because I'm unable to find out the background and history of the JT Leonard identified by the Sun Journal as the author of this blatant falsehood. My guess would be that it was authored by a student at the Bates speech. I conclude it was written by someone intensely interested in discrediting Schlafly. I could be wrong about that, and if you have evidence to counter that view, I'd benefit from hearing it.

    What's beyond dispute is that Schlafly's article entitled "Twenty Years For Having Sex With His Wife" (linked above)does not support the conclusion that Schlafly believes that a man cannot rape his wife. See the comment string above. So show me the "other examples" you assert exist in her Eagle Forum newsletters.

    You may be a Dr. at Wash. U, but I wonder if like LarryJ, you too are impervious to rational discourse.

  • Posted by StlCardsBiggestFan on May 7, 2008 at 9:55pm EDT
  • After learning extensively about Phyllis in my Women's Studies course this woman is disgusting. Someone who believes that women don't deserve the same rights and respect as men are seriously disturbed. Our society will never change because of the negative people such as her, who are afraid of change. She should not be honored at all. The fact that Wash U is doing this seriously confuses me and changes my perception of them as an institution.

  • Who's next?
  • Posted by Julie on May 8, 2008 at 11:05am EDT
  • Louis Farrakhan, David Duke? Too bad Strom Thurmond is dead.

  • DISinvite Schlafly, the human rights Hitler
  • Posted by sandy oestreich , Prof Emerita at Adelphi U, NY on May 9, 2008 at 5:05am EDT
  • It is appalling that the Board of Trustees would do Phyllis Schlafly the double honor of holding her up as a role model to speak at commencement AND then give her an honorary degree!

    What WERE they thinking? Obviously they weren't thinking of the slap in the face they delivered to all of the students who need the Equal Rights Amendment, male and female alike (think child custody, the draft, criminal ajudications, etc and equal wages for equal work, fair review of sex discrimination cases before the courts, military justice for rapes, etc etc etc).

    What can it gain the Washington University of St Louis? If you think "nothing", ...think again. COULD it be that the trustees and chancellor are dreaming of tapping into the fullsome treasure chest of Schlafly's will, especially since she's an alumna and lives in Missouri? Could it BE?

    Stop this pandering. UNinvite her so that you do not cause riots on campus, deeply insult your new graduates and their parents, and embarrass yourselves before the country and the academic community.

    Get out of this invitation any way you can as it will indeed haunt you.

    Cheers!

  • Horrible choice
  • Posted by Kaye on May 10, 2008 at 5:05pm EDT
  • As the parent of a rising junior at Washington University, I am appalled at the choice of Ms. Schlafly to earn an honorary degree. The 50+% of the student body that are female should have been considered when making this decision. I agree that she is certainly worthy of being heard as a campus speaker, but not as a recipient of an honorary degree.

  • liberal women?
  • Posted by elena carranza on May 11, 2008 at 1:30pm EDT
  • Ladies! You should hear yourselves. Are you really free and liberal women? I understand how you could feel so strongly about Schlafly. We can't all be so liberal like most of you. Schlafly and others have brought a much needed balance to women and ultimately the survival of the family.
    You sound very much afraid and intolerant. I don't read her books or listen to any radio show she may have. I'm not one of her followers, but I don't have a problem with her being honored at WUSTL.

  • Posted by PD on May 12, 2008 at 12:30pm EDT
  • As a Wash U alumni I am deeply disturbed and they will not receive any financial support from me in the future.

  • clear cut criteria for honorary degree
  • Posted by DDJ , Prof. & Chair, Dept of Comm at Hope College on May 13, 2008 at 12:15pm EDT
  • One would think that you would confer an honorary degree to someone who forwards the mission/vision of your institution in society. Clearly, Wash U's mission would not include preventing equal rights for women under the law. It would be like honoring someone for undermining higher education -- but doing a really good job of it. It's more than freedom of speech or experiencing some degree of sucess in the public eye -- an honorary degree symbolizes sucess in service to some value that is tied to the academic mission of the institution.

  • Another Dogged Bullet
  • Posted by Jarod HM , Graduating Senior at Claremont McKenna College on May 15, 2008 at 11:10am EDT
  • As my own undergraduate Commencement is coming up soon, I think about whether or not I made the right decision in attending my institution. However, the more I read about the decisions of Wash U administration the more I am feel luck to have not attend Wash U. Four years ago, I visited the campus and feel in love with Wash U. As the most recent statement said, it has a generally activist and inclusive student body. To honor Phyllis Schlafly now is to present her as a model graduate and has divided the Wash U community again. While I agree that there should not be a political litmus test for giving honorary degrees, this incident will simply increase the divide between the administration and students at the university.

    Also, I take offense to Jason even mentioning Jeremiah Wright and Ward Churchill in the same sentence. Ward Churchill is disturbed and dishonest man, and any institution that honors him to should never open it doors again. As to Jason's point about her contributions to conservative philosophy, I think that was covered in the quote from the Women Studies professor in the article. It is one thing to have a person speak on campus and share their view. Even allowing her to teach a class or two would not be amiss, but honoring someone as an institution means that person embodies positions or traits that the find exemplary. When people position which are not only inflammatory but run counter to the lives of a large majority of the students being honored at Commencement, it ruins the celebratory nature of the event and may cause lasting damage in alumni and student relations.

  • Posted by Nicole , Please Take a History Class at Univ of Florida on May 17, 2008 at 12:15pm EDT
  • Have so few of you taken college level history courses? Their are no absolutes when it comes to motherhood, womanhood, and homemaker; therefore the need to "protect" these institutions is questionable. While some may argue that motherhood is biological, the way society views motherhood is socially constructed.

    How American society have viewed the role of the wife/female in the household has drastically changed over our rather short history. While I agree that homemaker is an honest, honorable calling - I also believe that everyone should have the opportunity to pursue any honest, honorable career of their choosing.

    By suggesting that mother and homemaker SHOULD be my primary roles in society takes away my inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness - a right promoted by founding father Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence. Therefore, Schafly is not a conservative, because she is not conserving the original ideas that this country was founded upon.

    Those that promote one's ability to make individual decisions - rather than having society make decision for you -- are the true supporters of this nation and the "liberal" ideas that our founding fathers promoted.

    Please take a history class. Be warned - I will be the one teaching your sons and daughters. I will instruct them to think for themselves. If they becomes conservative or liberal, at least they had the right to decide for themselves.

    By honoring Phyllis Schafly, UW is not honoring the protection of 1st amendment rights - no one said she could never speak. They are honoring a woman who desires a society that never questions itself nor the teachings of its predecessors. If our society never questioned authority, we would not be a nation. By honoring her, UW honors the RESTRICTION of free thought and open dialogue ... something all universities should promote and embrace.

  • Posted by roger rainey on May 17, 2008 at 1:10pm EDT
  • This is not a very helpful article. Like a lot of journalism today, it leaves the reader with obvious unanswered questions. Here is the primary one: Why would the school offer an honorary degree in the first place to someone who advocates the vile views attributed to her in this piece? The answer can only be that there is an aspect to her life's work that doesn't make it into the article. The next unanswered question is: Why is that? Could it be that the writer's own views have infected the article? Probably.

  • Phyllis Schlafly dishonors WashU graduates
  • Posted by Mamadoc on May 22, 2008 at 6:45am EDT
  • As a parent of a WashU junior, as a woman who grew up during Schlafly's heyday, as a woman who endured countless years of misogyny during her education, I feel pity for Ms. Schlafly (Excuse me, MRS. Schlafly--but NEVER Dr. Schlafly) and for the WashU faculty and students who had to endure the ignominy of her receiving an "honorary" degree. If this had happened during my daughter's graduation, i would have refused to go and advised my daughter not to go either. I'm sure my husband would agree with me.
    The flagrant hypocrisy of this woman has always been too much to stomach. Remember Anita Bryant? MRS. Schlafly was doing exactly what she was denigrating while she was denigrating it--and is too brainwashed to recognize that. Staying home to be ahousewife and mother is great--until you're divorced, abused or widowed and suddenly have to support yourself and your children. How many women and children live in poverty in this great country of ours because of that? Why hasn't MRS. Schlafly used her considerable powers of articulation to promote safety nets for these Americans? And for that matter--why di she need to get a law degree (taking up a place in a competitive law school that a MAN could have had, when she had a husband to support her and children to raise. SHAME on you, MRS. Schlafly! And Shame on WashU for honoring her when there are so many other worthy candidates.