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June 4, 2008

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Jay Parini has taught poetry to many, many students during his 30-plus years of college teaching. But the group of teenagers for whom he has read and analyzed Robert Frost's poems in recent weeks are unlike the young people he has encountered in the classrooms of Dartmouth and Middlebury Colleges since 1975.

"To them, Robert Frost is just a name on a plaque," said Parini, a poet, novelist and biographer of Frost. "I can't assume a damn thing that they have any knowledge at all" about Frost or poetry.

Parini's students these last two weeks have not had much of a choice but to listen to the Middlebury professor. Their attendance in the two sessions, the second of which was Tuesday, was mandatory as part of a "court diversion" program they entered in lieu of going to jail. Their crime: trashing a Vermont home in which Frost summered for the last two decades of his life, as a party they held raged out of control. The high school students, who were invited to the Homer Noble Farm, an unheated farmhouse in Ripton, Vt., by a youthful former employee of Middlebury College, which owns the structure, burned furniture to keep warm, broke china and soiled the carpets. They did more than $10,000 in damage.

The local prosecutor, Addison County State’s Attorney John Quinn, contemplated sending them to jail. But he opted instead for a more creative punishment. “I guess I was thinking that if these teens had a better understanding of who Robert Frost was, and his contribution to our society, that they would be more respectful of other people’s property in the future and would also learn something from the experience,” he told the Associated Press.

Quinn's call to Parini suggesting that he teach the wrongdoers about Frost caught the author and poet by surprise, but he embraced the idea. In two sessions, Parini said he "tried to take it down to brass tacks ... just reading some very moving Frost poems," rather than trying to beat the young people over the head with lectures. ("I had three teenagers of my own," he said.)

"Out Out," which describes a teenage farmhand's loss of his hand, seemed to resonate with the high schoolers who themselves hail mostly from farm country, Parini said. And as he read from the seemingly inevitable "The Road Not Taken," Parini said, he could not help but suggest to his temporary students that they might be "lost in your own woods."

"This was a very moving and emotional experience, and I think I really connected emotionally with these kids," Parini said. "The goal was to show them why poetry matters in their lives. That it's not just some monument on a hillside, but it has very crucial and vital things ot say about their very own lives."

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Comments on Scared Straight -- by Poetry?

  • He might have been amused...or maybe not
  • Posted by Abbott Katz on June 4, 2008 at 6:45am EDT
  • It was Frost, after all, who observed that

    "Home is the place where, when you have to go there, They have to take you in." Provided you don't reduce the place to rubble.

  • How different would this have been if...
  • Posted by Iris Williams at The University of Vermont on June 4, 2008 at 8:55am EDT
  • This wasn't simply vandalism, this was a blatant disregard for the property of others (no matter how historical that individual was).

    When I see crimes like these committed in a place like Vermont, I can't help but see them through the lens of my ethnicity and white privilege. I live in Vermont which is probably the second whitest state in the country. If a group of Black or Latin youths had done the same thing (even in my fair state) those people would have gone to jail. I can only assume that these were white kids with a 'promising' future that would be ruined by having a 'real' criminal record follow them. Court Diversion allows kids to avoid having a record-which we all know would prevent a 'promising' young person from receiving federal aid to go to college, would need to be reported on employment records etc. While I am happy that such structures and second chances exist in the judicial system, I do wish it were more evenly applied so that 'promising' youth of non-white ethnicities could have the same opportunity.

  • Posted by Emma on June 4, 2008 at 9:15am EDT
  • And what if it had been the house of a nobody? A historic or expensive structure, perhaps, but not associated with Frost? These kids are being taught it was wrong to be destructive because this was celebrity property, not because destruction of other people's property in general is wrong. This fits in well with today's culture in which you only exist if you have 15 minutes of fame, but I can't applaud it.

  • Posted by CDL on June 4, 2008 at 9:55am EDT
  • Although I applaud the use of education as a way of enlightening these misguided youth, shouldn't they and their families have to pay for the restoration of the property? Perhaps a few hours of mowing lawns, repainting, and otherwise laborious work should have been tacked onto their punishment as a reminder that it takes a lot more time to rebuild than to tear down.

  • friendship.....
  • Posted by david inkey , president at antarctica university on June 4, 2008 at 10:10am EDT
  • Friendship

    In all things grounded and marine,
    I find the ship of a friend the most serene…
    Amongst the boats and floats, rafts and crafts,
    Canoes and kayaks, our ship has a crew of only two…
    No captains need us review…

    On all the oceans, through all the seas,
    On lakes, rivers and plains, even with prairie schooners,
    In dry docks and locks, in all weather and uneven whether,
    Whatever, whenever, wherever we tether, anchored or adrift,
    Cleared or confused, the ship of a friend is the most serene…

    david inkey, the UN poet, 41705….

  • Iris ASSumes too much.
  • Posted by Weisman on June 4, 2008 at 12:10pm EDT
  • "When I see crimes like these committed in a place like Vermont, I can’t help but see them through the lens of my ethnicity and white privilege. I live in Vermont which is probably the second whitest state in the country."

    And thats a "bad" thing right?

    If it makes you feel better pretend it is Martin Luther King's house in which case there would be rioting in the streets. But because it is Robert Frost, "merely a dead old white guy" it does not matter right. We don't need to send them to jail because it is okay to show disrespect to a merely dead, white poet.

    I can't stand white poeple who hate themselves and their culture because they are white. Saying that Vermont is the whitest state in the US is the equivalent of saying that Africa is the blackest continent on the planet, so what! As far as I can tell each of the "races" has had things to brag about and to live down. I doubt if black folks need you to speak for them. As far as your own "white guilt" well I suppose you will just learn have to deal with it.

    Do all of us a favor, get the facts before you offer an opinion. I am certain the fellas from Duke's Lacrosse team would appreciate it.

  • Weisman
  • Posted by Man Singing at Inquirer Party on June 4, 2008 at 3:20pm EDT
  • "White guilt" is not how I take Iris. Nor do I think there would be rioting if youth UNKNOWINGLY trashed the house of a famous African American Civil Rights leader.

    As for this white guy, I have many African American friends and I'll stick up for my friends if I want to as a way of speaking for myself, not them.

    I'll also stick up for the Duke athletes (no pun intended.) It's just that we don't know how many innocent black men have been trucked off to prison and even executed because they didn't have the wealth, the privilege, the high-priced lawyers and the backing of a huge
    segment of the media to overcome egregious outpourings of prejudice against them either.

    But you're right. Anyone of any ethnicity can be prejudiced against others. My African American friends attest to that They confess to having often been prejudiced. But add power to prejudice, and you get racism. It isn't about white guilt; it's about acknowledging the implications of having prejudice if you identify with the group historically closest to the center of power.

    On another topic: I'm skeptical of the whole notion of teaching Frost's poetry to kids as a punishment. I hope the connection to punishment doesn't make them hate poetry.

    There's a correlation between these two topics, actually. We should all know of Frost's contribution to poetry. And we should likewise, at the very least, see all 14 episodes of the documentary, _Eyes on the Prize__, lest we suffer from a tragic case of cultural amnesia.

    Even the phrase "Civil Rights" is, as Malcolm X pointed out, a polite dilution of the truth. It was a struggle for Human Rights, and not just in the South (from whence I come). The U.S. is not supposed to have ever had a human rights problem, eh?

  • Restorative Justice
  • Posted by Laura Mirsky , Communications Coordinator at International Institute for Restorative Practices on June 5, 2008 at 10:15am EDT
  • The point here is not really poetry. In meeting with Parini, these youth experienced a bit of restorative practices, and a piece of a restorative justice (RJ) conference, in that they got to hear about the effect of their actions.

    In an actual RJ conference, these boys would have been surrounded by friends and family (their supporters), as well as victims and their supporters, and a facilitator would have asked them: what happened, what they were thinking about at the time, how their actions had affected others, and what they could do to make things right. They would have had a chance to express remorse and agree to make amends for what they had done.
    The victims would have been asked how the boys' actions had affected them and what they needed to make things right for them.
    RJ, which works via the process of "reintegrative shaming," has been shown to be highly effective in reducing recidivism and satisfying victims. (See http://www.realjustice.org/library/rjevidence.html.)

    In a "victimless" (note quotation marks) crime such as this one, perhaps Frost and other poets (like Parini) are appropriate stand-ins for the victim. It's good that the boys got to hear what affect their actions had. It would have been better (i.e. more fully restorative) if others had been present, as well -- like family members, who are also always affected by crimes like this -- to tell the boys how they felt. It would also have been better if the boys had been given a chance to apologize and make amends.

    To learn more about restorative practices and restorative justice, please go to http://www.restorative practices.org.