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June 27
— Scott Jaschik and Doug Lederman
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Failure to reach out to the needy adult community doesn’t all stem from program inefficiency, as this “Quick Take” struck me. While the report itself might address the following, note that high attrition is often caused in part by
*lack of funding from local, state and federal agencies
*schedule and financial challenges specific to a needier population
*bureaucratic misunderstanding of what these adults really need in the classroom (staffing, materials, time, etc.)
*refusal to acknowledge the overwhelming numbers of adult students coming to the classroom with learning disabilities who require accommodations and in many cases, screening and/or costly testing
*lack of other resources that prevent learning (i.e. poor health literacy, little access to health care, inadequate family support, no child care)
Adults struggling with literacy issues need to feel welcome and be encouraged to come to class. Any number of setbacks can prevent success including the system itself. Traditionally, these students have not done well in systems; their trust in any system has been seriously damaged.
When only one aspect of education is addressed, we can’t expect the same kind of results we see on campus with students who have access to a fuller range of services.
kgotthardt, at 8:45 am EDT on June 27, 2008
I’m in a community college program where the instructors in one of the technical programs allows her students to be completely disrespectful. It’s more like a kindergarten atmosphere than a college atmosphere in the class. The instructor is basically talking to herself and pretending not to notice that a third of her students are sleeping, talking, working on tests as a team project, or eating meals. It’s excruciating to sit in the class among them. I sometimes wonder if I am the only student in the class who is actually listening to the lecture. She is enabling these students to be failures in the working world by pretending to ignore this outrageous behavior. I’m thinking about secretly filming the class and posting it on You Tube!
Mississippi CC Student, College Student at MGCCC, at 9:35 am EDT on June 27, 2008
No matter what programs may be funded, we have to think about the incentives to the prospective students. Think how hard it would be to learn to read and write in Standard English as an adult. (Don’t cheat. Don’t imagine you’re an eager immigrant who only needs English to begin making his/her way in the Land of Dreams. Imagine you’re a dropout from an inner city school that never taught you to read.) Now think how much better off economically you would be if you *could* read and write. You’d probably still be on welfare unless you also had a lot more going for you than that.
My sense is that our current approaches to education are inflationary, so to speak. The amount of education, measured by grade level, that a person needs in order to earn a decent living will continue to soar, in large part due to the inflation of education credentials.
I doubt we can do much cost-effective good through adult remedial education (although it should be available to those who seek it). Hard stuff like reading and writing should be learned at a young age, where it can be taught much more cost-effectively. Notice, however, that an effective program for young people would require that, however it’s justified, they be taught to speak Standard English.
Rod Bell, Adjunct Professor at College of DuPage, at 12:00 pm EDT on June 27, 2008
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Another Reason For Change
The incessant focus on testing (i.e. NCLB) and half-baked attempts to “reform” accreditation (by Spellings) have caused the current federal education hierarchy to neglect other important areas of education (i.e. adults, per above). All three topics can be added to the pile of reasons for voting in a new administration this fall.
Not McCain, at 5:15 am EDT on June 27, 2008