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I’ve written here before (http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2007/06/25/wilson) about the ROTC issue, and I’ve written about last night’s forum (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/12/05330/0087?new=true). Here are the facts: ROTC is not banned at Columbia; the military refuses to accept common academic standards for ROTC programs, such as faculty control of curriculum and hiring, academic freedom, and open access. What we need is a president who will turn ROTC into an independent, truly academic program rather than the current system. Having independent Military Studies programs would expand academic offerings about the military, allow all students to take these classes, and provide more faculty doing research on the military.
John K. Wilson, collegefreedom.org, at 9:10 am EDT on September 12, 2008
Yes, ROTC is “banned” at Columbia in the sense that the military and naval services are not allowed to operate a program on campus (whether or not they want to is another issue). Yes, students can go to Fordham or elsewhere to participate in ROTC, just like they can go to Fordham or elsewhere to take a course that is perhaps not offered at Columbia.
ROTC is a military (or naval) TRAINING program, not an “independent, truly academic program” — the military certainly understands this crucial difference. This is why no ROTC cadet anywhere can “major” in ROTC, and it is also why some schools give no or limited credit for ROTC courses. The Army wants their cadets to receive the benefits of a good, comprehensive college or university education, during and after which the Army will train them for the skills needed to succeed as a soldier and a leader. How fortunate we are that our military recognizes the value of education!
There is absolutely nothing to prevent a college or university from having an independent Military Studies program, complete with all the faculty control, academic freedom, and open access (?) that Mr. Wilson talks about above. I cannot help but think that the US military would welcome a reawakening of scholarly and critical interest in this very important national institution. But even the most brilliant and credentialed academics cannot TRAIN students to the standard necessary for them to become soldiers and leaders — only the US Army can do that. And come to think of it, they do a pretty good job of it.
Doug, at 3:50 pm EDT on September 12, 2008
Come to Nouveau University — and see why education-duopoly-centered Phoenix [home to both King Kong (ASU) and Godzilla (UoP)] is leading the southwest US in its headlong rush to become “The New Appalachia” of the 21st century.
Scrawed, at 6:55 pm EDT on September 17, 2008
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Do you mean “illegal immigrants"?
“...immigrant students who do not have the legal right to be in the United States”
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ACF, at 8:35 am EDT on September 12, 2008