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Sept. 25
A new report this week by the National Association for College Admission Counseling urges colleges to more carefully consider whether they need to require standardized testing for admission. And the report suggests that a careful analysis should lead many institutions to go test-optional.
Colleges that have been test-optional for some time report success — more applications over all, more applications from members of minority groups, and no drops in applicant quality or student success. But with the NACAC report creating new momentum for the test-optional movement, one question that arises is, what is involved when a college makes the decision to make this shift? The question is especially important for larger institutions, since many of the colleges with the most experience being test-optional are small liberal arts colleges that already had highly personalized admissions processes.
Currently, Wake Forest University is undergoing such a change — having announced this summer that it would no longer require a test for admission. Wake Forest is among the largest competitive colleges to make the move — and officials there report that there’s more to dropping the SAT than just dropping the SAT. The university is revamping its admissions process generally, putting much more emphasis on personal interviews and adding staff for what will be a more intense review of candidates. In addition, the university has been paying close attention to how people inside and outside the university understand its move.
Jill Tiefenthaler, provost at Wake Forest, said a move away from testing is a chance to reframe the discussion about how people are admitted to colleges. “You have to make it very clear to people that this is not about sacrificing academic excellence,” she said. “I think for such a long time people have seen the SAT as some kind of gold standard in intelligence, which it isn’t and was never intended to be. We need to remind people that it’s one test on one day for a lot of students.”
On campus, Wake Forest administrators have generally had faculty support, in part because they worked closely with professors on the shift. Joseph A. Soares, a Wake Forest sociologist who has done extensive work on issues related to social class and higher education, has written extensively — and critically — of the SAT. The author of The Power of Privilege: Yale and America’s Elite Colleges (2007, Stanford University Press), Soares created a Web page for faculty members with an outline of the issue, a bibliography and resources about the SAT and standardized testing.
The only vocal opposition to the change has come from some alumni. While the alumni affairs office reports that about 75 percent of alumni who have communicated with the university about the change have praised the decision, 25 percent have been critical. Generally, those worried about the move have expressed a fear about rankings or a belief that the decision amounts to coddling applicants. A member of the Class of ’89 posted this comment on an alumni message board: “Give me a break, Wake. The news of this SAT/ACT policy change makes me embarrassed and horrified that my beloved institution has succombed [sic] to the pressures of the all-accommodating world of academia. The pride, which has always swelled in my heart for WFU, has diminished some today.”
Tiefenthaler said that she’s not surprised that some alumni are more hesitant to embrace the change. Sharing the philosophy behind the move is “easier on campus than off,” she said, and so the process will take a little longer. But she said that she believes Wake will soon have evidence – through more applications, data on the success of students admitted without tests, and so forth, that will reassure critics. “I think it’s an image thing, a question of people wanting to be sure of quality,” she said. “It’s not that anybody loves the SAT.”
In addition, she noted that while she’s not a fan of rankings, Wake is rising (up 2 spots in U.S. News & World Report this fall), and that while she doesn’t consider that a true measure of the university, and this year’s doesn’t reflect the new testing policy, the progress seems important to those who worry about losing the test. She also said that the publicity about the NACAC report is helping, as now people are calling the university to say that they are impressed that “we are ahead on this.”
Digging Deeper
One of the messages Tiefenthaler wants to get out is that applicants are probably receiving more scrutiny, not less, without the SAT.
Martha Allman, director of admissions, said that while the publicity about Wake Forest is on dropping the SAT as a requirement, an equally important change is a decision to encourage just about every applicant to have a personal interview — through video if necessary for those unable to visit the campus.
Previously, the university interviewed between 10 and 20 percent of applicants, and now it is moving to get “as close to 100 percent as possible.” The interviews are providing a much more detailed sense of students, their strengths, and their likely success at the university, she said. “We’re trying to get at their motivation and curiosity,” factors a test score can’t reveal, Allman said.
Last year, Wake received 9,000 applications, and most colleges that drop an SAT requirement experience significant increases in their numbers. With the added time needed for interviews, and the idea of spending more time with each application, Wake added 2 more people to the admissions staff (bringing the number who will be involved in reading applications to 13). In addition, Wake may involve faculty members or retired admissions officers in interviews.
Admissions officers are also already asking more questions than they used to of high school counselors, Allman said. Looking at high school records, Wake admissions officers are trying to get a better sense of what a given high school rank means, or the rigor of a curriculum.
One of the biggest issues the staff has been discussing, she said, is how to use the SAT scores of those students who submit them and what to tell the many potential applicants who ask whether they should. (Many colleges that drop an SAT requirement report that most students continue to submit scores.)
Allman said that the policy the university has adopted is that, for students who do submit scores, “it’s not going to factor in significantly in our reading.” When high school students ask, they are being told that Wake Forest was sincere in saying that it didn’t need or want the scores.
There may be cases where individual applicants feel a particular need to submit, Allman said. If, for example, a student who attends a high school with “a weak curriculum,” and who was unable to take the kinds of college-prep courses Wake prefers, asked whether to submit scores, Allman said her reply would be “if you feel the score is a good representation, then go ahead and submit. If you don’t, don’t.”
While it’s very early in the admissions cycle, Wake applications are up already, as have been campus visits over this point last year. Allman said that while she doesn’t have data, she has noticed many more minority visitors to the campus. Generally, colleges that have dropped the SAT as a requirement have seen a surge in applications from minority applicants — and Wake has mentioned that as one goal for the change.
Allman said that she’s also hearing from potential applicants with high SAT scores who say they like the idea of applying somewhere that they don’t have to submit them. High school students have been telling her that they still take the SAT because they are applying to some colleges that require it but see appeal in not being evaluated based on that number.
The biggest challenge so far with the change, Allman said, is uncertainty. While Wake expects applications to go up, she said that there really is no way to know the magnitude. Combining an increase with the time factor for reviewing applications, she said there are “real unknowns” about what it will be like at the peak of the season for reviewing applications.
“But we think it’s the right thing to do — the fair thing to do,” she said. “Do we think we can do it all without a test? We certainly think we can.”
If the process is a little harder on the admissions staff, that’s OK with Tiefenthaler, the provost. She said that one of the things that bothered her the most about requiring the SAT was that it could be “an easy crutch” for making tough decisions. In talking to admissions officers at many institutions, she said, it’s clear that with the SAT, if there are two applicants who are generally similar and “one has a 1320 and one has a 1350, you could just go with the 1350.”
The person with the 1350 may or may not be the best candidate, she said, and she likes the idea that more questions will be asked before deciding who gets the slot — even if that takes extra hours and some extra people. “Now we have to dig deeper.”
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First, congratulations to Joseph Soares for thoroughly convincing — through deep and powerful research displayed concisely in his book The Power of Privilege — the Wake provost and faculty to drop the SAT. Well done!
As to the 25% of alums who insinuate that Wake has “succombed” to political correctness, I cringe that the IHE reporter “succombed” himself to the mainstream media myth that one has to “balance” both sides of an argument even if the “other side’s” argument is specious, xenophobic, false, or downright stupid. There are some who will go down with a sinking ship facts be damned.
The challenge for higher education is to replicate this policy somehow for the large public universities, which can hardly accommodate personal interviews for even the majority of their applicants — and what of those not interviewed?
But there should be little doubt for those publics and for the rich holdout privates what the truth of the argument is: by dropping the SAT and ACT as requirements, we will expand opportunities to those historically excluded and underrepresented, both by race and socioeconomic status.We will finally be able to align our rhetoric about equity with real opportunity.
Phil, at 8:20 am EDT on September 25, 2008
The danger with putting more emphasis on the interview is that this emphasis results in the need for applicants to actually visit the college for an interview. Ideally, one should always visit the college where one is intending to apply—unless one is too poor or not worldly enough to travel to Winston-Salem, N.C. Such a policy, therefore, flirts with the danger of again disadvantaging low-income students. Therefore, unless Wake Forest can establish an extensive, nationwide system that allows all interested students to have an interview where they live, such an approach could have a discouraging effect toward the very kinds of students that the university implies it wants to encourage. Unless, of course, it actually wishes to attract wealthier “disadvantaged minority” students who may have more in the way of access to capital than they do to superior test scores.
GD, at 10:45 am EDT on September 25, 2008
Clearly, many have not taken time to read Soares’ The Power of Priviledge. It is long past time for everyone truly concerned about US education to do so.
For our cited Wake alum, one might have hoped that he had taken time to look in the mirror before thinking that his SAT ment anything to his application. Likely, it did not.
To help us take the blinders off this discussion, here is a review of what did mean something:
1. Was he full-pay?
2. Was he a legacy?
3. Did he apply for need-based financial aid?
4. Does his daddy know the Wake President, or Dean, or Provost, or tennis coach, or second cousin to the math department teaching assistant?
5. Was he an early decision applicant?
6. Was he a recruited athlete?
7. Was he from a key private high school?
8. Was the staff at his key private high school friendly with the Wake admission office?
9. Was he full-pay?
10. Was he full-pay?
11. Was he full-pay?
12. Were his grades, class selection, and SATs okay?
Now, pick any number 1 through 11 and understand that ANY one of these trumps 12.
This is the truth of the situation we are in as a society. Can we please try to have a real discussion about the issue? In a society where the the average family of four earns ~$65k, how do the elite colleges (charging $55k a year) end up with 60% full-pay? Clearly, they are not need-blind and have not been honest with any of us. Why would we think they are being honest about the SAT option?
And why SAT optional, anyway, one may wonder?
We have heard it over-and-over again: we desire more diversity, a real review of a given student’s quality, a return to what we believe is important, we love big bear hugs with our mission.
Is that right? Let’s review the school side of decision making on this issue. Just in case the decision is not for the good of society.
Let’s wonder aloud about whether admission offices at the elite SAT optionals review ALL the SATs of ALL students who apply. I bet they do.
Let’s wonder aloud whether they call the applicants with below average SATs and advise them to officially change their admission applications. I bet they do.
Let’s wonder if an official application change allows the school to ignore the below average SATs. Hummm. And, finally, let’s wonder whether these ignored scores are then reported to US News. I bet they are not!
And on diversity? InsideHigherED, let’s take time to find a single highly-selective private college where an SAT option has caused minority (racial, economic) populations to increase. As luck would have it, we would need only to review the increase in numbers of Pell Grant awards, or document a decrease in average family earnings, for the period since the option. That would do it!
The SAT is broken, racist, and has outcomes influenced by money and power. This is old and boring news. Can we please try hard not to help elite private colleges think they they are doing something good for society by ignoring the SAT, especially understanding that they are not ignorng it. They are simply picking the scores they want to report while ignoring the real SAT issue.
CkHJT, at 11:50 am EDT on September 25, 2008
The article DOES say that students who can’t visit have video interviews.
EB, at 12:05 pm EDT on September 25, 2008
QuestionOnce you make the admission tests optional (SAT and ACT), what do you put in its place to filter out acceptances versus rejections from all the applicants with virtually straight A high school records (when you do not have the capacity to admit every applicant to campus)?
“After You Go SAT-Optional,” by Scott Jaschik, Inside Higher Ed, September 25, 2008 —- http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/09/25/wake
Jensen CommentThere may be a clever strategy for dealing SAT/ACT optional admissions after the $700 million bailout is in place. Admit every applicant on probation for one semester. Then at the end of the semester sell all the under achievers to the U.S. Department of the Treasury.
If the government waits long enough and spends billions more for remedial education, taxpayers might eventually make a profit like President Bush promises that taxpayers will profit from buying up all the banks’ bad debts.
We’ve got to build up momentum behind this bailout idea —- it can work for more than just challenged (submerged) mortgage investments.
Bob Jensen, Accounting Professor, Emeritus at Trinity University, at 12:05 pm EDT on September 25, 2008
Rice University requires an interview for admission — but Rice has cultivated an enormous network of alum interviewers.
Michael Tinkler, Hobart & William Smith Colleges, at 1:10 pm EDT on September 25, 2008
If the SAT is one test on one day, then what is the interview? One impression on one day with one person?
Jones, at 2:15 pm EDT on September 25, 2008
By replacing test scores with interviews, aren’t you just exchanging a bias in favor of those who test well with a bias inf favor of those who interview well?
SM, at 2:15 pm EDT on September 25, 2008
As Director of Admissions at a small-liberal arts college in the upper mid-west, we have been ACT-optional for many years now and have found it to be quite refreshing not to have to burden our new students with more tests. Our Enrollment Officers are very hands on and our applications are more labor intensive, but there is not that “one size fits all” mentality that we had when I was Director of Admissions at a very large Southern University. I can see some potential pitfalls with eliminating test scores completely at some universities, and would be curious as to how some State Higher Education Commissions would view such a change in the decades old tradition of using standardized test scores for admission. My personal stance has always been how do we justify using a four-hour test with the same weight as four years of college prep high school classwork? I have never been able to truly justify that in my own mind, and I’ve been in higher education for a quarter of a century. Anyway, I will follow this closely and see where it goes from here. I am also very curious about the College Board’s position on this new “test optional” strategies.
Martin, at 2:20 pm EDT on September 25, 2008
Speaking of bias: “Of all the authors, Soares is the best at explaining the statistical applications of the numerical measures used in the admissions process and why a student’s ACT or SAT scores are not good predictors of his or her freshmanGPA at the most competitive colleges.”
Why no discussion of: ACT/SAT plus HSGPA plus HS class rank (with or without SES) overall predictive value?
Why no discussion of: in what group or culture a Liberal Arts graduate might reside?(if one’s family isn’t wealthy and/or well-connected, the liberal arts grad can do what exactly: besides teach, lead a leisurely & scholarly life; maybe write a book or two, or join the family business?)
Why no examples of large, competitive-admission professional institutions of higher education (law, medicine, engineering) that plan to dump admissions tests?
Community colleges and proprietary colleges don’t require ACT/SAT hurdles, right? Open admissions colleges just don’t need pre-admissions testing; just a pulse.
Dr. F. Gump, at 9:20 pm EDT on September 25, 2008
You are right on the money.
I doubt you will get many responses, because the answer is obviously ‘Yes’. And actually, interviews as a whole likely have more bias than standardized tests.
Jerry in LA, at 2:20 pm EDT on September 26, 2008
I still don’t buy it. If a standardized test is not good enough for undergraduate school why do we still need them for post-graduate?
Not proud to be a deacon!
Robert T. Williams, at 11:10 am EDT on October 8, 2008
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Wake Forest is also one of many schools whose departments of mathematics (Illinois,, University of Alabama Birmingham, Virginia Tech, Northwestern, Florida, Tennessee, Washington State, Boise State, UC Santa Cruz, Arizona, Iowa State, Colorado State...just to name a few), Who are flirting with or outright using the ALEKS Assessment as a superior diagnostic for students entering math courses.
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