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Defending the Fruit Flies from Sarah Palin

October 28, 2008

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Throughout his presidential campaign, Sen. John McCain has had a few choice earmarks to cite when he blasts the Congressional practice of setting aside funds for particular projects. One of his favorite targets is a study of bear DNA.

In a speech Friday, Gov. Sarah Palin, McCain's running mate, tried to highlight another earmark -- and some supporters of science say that the campaign has gone too far. In a speech in which she proposed a major expansion of federal assistance for students with special education needs, Palin said that money could be found by cutting earmarks. Her example: "Sometimes these dollars they go to projects having little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not!"

Obviously if Congress is paying to study the fruit fly, or for researchers to travel to Paris or -- horreurs -- paying U.S. tax dollars to French scientists, something terribly wasteful must be going on. At least that was the message. But to some observers of science, the McCain-Palin campaign against earmarks has veered into a campaign against science.

Take the fruit fly research in Paris. Many scientists abhor earmarks, believing that peer review is the best way to give out funds. But the fruit fly research appears to be a classic example of how the title for a research project -- without any context -- can be made to sound silly. While the McCain campaign wouldn't confirm this, Palin's remark appears to be a reference to an earmark obtained by Rep. Mike Thompson, a California Democrat, to support olive fruit fly research. The group Citizens Against Government Waste honored Thompson with "The French Kiss Off Award" for the earmark, noting that the work would be done in Paris.

A spokeswoman for Representative Thompson said that the earmark wasn't some junket or silly project. Olive trees represent a growing agricultural enterprise in California, she said, and the olive fruit fly is the greatest danger posed to them. The problem has been widespread in Europe for years, but is just starting to appear in the United States. The spokeswoman said that the U.S. Department of Agriculture maintains a field station in France for just such situations -- to study agriculture problems there that are becoming (or may become) problems in the United States. That's where the money is going. "This money is going to American scientists who are working to help Americans," she said.

Beyond the matter of this one earmark, there is the broader question of how science is being described -- as a series of federal giveaways, without providing any relevant context. For example, Scientific American explored Senator McCain's beloved bear DNA research and found that it is a study largely required to comply with federal regulations about tracking endangered species.

As for fruit flies, a series of articles published Monday served as a reminder for non-scientists that the size of an animal studied does not correlate with the significance of the work being done. A molecular biologist took to Daily Kos to describe the role of fruit flies in science that has led to the Nobel Prize, cancer breakthroughs and various scientific advances.

Slate noted the irony of Palin mocking fruit fly research in a speech about special needs children -- when some research about autism makes use of research on fruit flies. And Pharyngula -- a blog not known for restraint in criticizing politicians who question science -- said this: "This idiot woman, this blind, shortsighted ignoramus, this pretentious clod, mocks basic research and the international research community. You damn well better believe that there is research going on in animal models -- what does she expect, that scientists should mutagenize human mothers and chop up baby brains for this work?"

The McCain-Palin campaign did not respond to calls seeking comment on these articles or Friday's speech.

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Comments on Defending the Fruit Flies from Sarah Palin

  • The Right's War Against Science
  • Posted by Diogenes on October 28, 2008 at 7:55am EDT
  • Well considering Palin believes that dinosaurs and humans shared the earth at the same time and buys in to the clap trap noise that creationists make about science in general, no one should be surprised. The Republican campaign has pandered to "Low-Information Voters," which is a polite way to describe their base to be as ignorant as Palin is! That's why she resonates to her worshippers so well. Think of her as a tuning fork set to vibrate at a frequency that is guaranteed to set every John Bircher, Moonie, and Flat Earther dancing. America became a scientific backwater under the social conservative Cheney adminstration. When McCain stammered his hatred of planetariums a couple of weeks ago, I wondered if it was because social conservatives consider such things heretical, as they preach a helio-centric solar system! In any case, it seems that preaching against fruit fly research, planetariums, and science in general makes certain kinds of America jump up and shout. These idiots can shout all they want. Just keep them away from my government, please! But a note to McCain, Palin, their ignorant base, their unsavory John Birch Society camp followers and other College Republicans who plan to carve a few B's in their cheeks: Still, it turns.

  • Posted by Jim on October 28, 2008 at 9:45am EDT
  • Don't confuse us with the truth! Politically self-serving sound bytes is my source for trustworthy information.

  • Posted by John Farley , fruit flies on October 28, 2008 at 10:10am EDT
  • The same mechanisms operate inside the individual cell of fruit flies and human beings. This is the real importance of animal models, like fruit flies. It makes perfect sense to those of us who believe in evolution and "common descent": humans and fruit flies have a common ancestor. However, not everybody believes in evolution. Sigh!

  • Posted by Mr. Smug Head Shaker on October 28, 2008 at 10:20am EDT
  • Let's be fair in that the remark on which this throw-away article is based Palin used the words "sometimes" and "little...to do with the public good." Is there anyone who can argue with a straight face that every research project funded through ear-marks will benefit the public good?

    Is it unfair for Palin to imply that an ear-mark might not be the appropriate method for funding this fruit-fly research?

    Does the ear-mark approach suggest that rather than convincing others in their field that their research is worthy of funding they instead convinced (paid?) their representatives to slip it into a Federal bill?

  • Fruit Flies and Why Are You So Defensive
  • Posted by Patti in Louisiana on October 28, 2008 at 10:25am EDT
  • Come on. Can you not just say what is fact and be done. The idiot comments are unnecessary and actually untrue. You should know you cannot generalize one comment to represent an entire person's view on what comes out of their mouth. Aren't you educators? Get over it. Do your research and do it well. Lay off of the trivial things one will say. Especially when we cannot "attack" the others out there campaigning for every little thing. You are bitter about something. Not her problem.

  • Posted by Denise on October 28, 2008 at 10:25am EDT
  • If I understand correctly, Palin's parents are educators. I know one of them was a high school science teacher. Palin has pronounced a great respect for the field. I think her point, as well as McCain's, is that we need some major overhaul on the ad hoc spending pouring from Capital Hill (from both parties) Every cause is a worthy cause to somebody, but we have to stop spending what we don't have or we're screwed!

  • Posted by Don on October 28, 2008 at 10:25am EDT
  • This was not news, it was a nasty little hatchet piece on Sarah Palin, citing comments that never would have been published with respects to other candidates-- "idiotic"? I don't begrudge anybody their vote, but this was just offensive, and casts a poor light on Inside Higher Ed.

  • Palin's speech
  • Posted by guido stempel , distinguished professor emeritus at ohio unviersity on October 28, 2008 at 10:25am EDT
  • It's something of a paradx that while politicians as insist we have to have high school students take mmore science and get more students to major in science in college, they frequently insist they know more on scientific issues than scientists.
    Furthermore, we appoint people with limited scientific knwledge to positions that really require scientific knowledege. Party loyalty trummps competence and knowledge.

  • Fruit Flies
  • Posted by George on October 28, 2008 at 11:05am EDT
  • Here we go again bashing the Republicans. We are bankrupting the country with congressional earmarks. If you want to study fruit flies, go to the appropiate federal agency, put in your proposal, and get the review necessary to get funded. Use the system that has been set up. Don't short circuit it with going to your congressman. I work for a congressman part time and the pressure on him to fund junk is tremendous. Where in blazes do you think the money comes from? It is out of your pocket. Governor Palin was spot on to blast this use of an earmark because it has nothing to do with the immediate health and safety of the country. If you blast the bridge to nowhere, you should blast the study of fruit flies.

  • Posted by Laura on October 28, 2008 at 11:05am EDT
  • Guido, when you talk about politicians who know less than scientists, are you talking about the politicians who approve the earmarks, or the politicians who criticize them? I missed where any politician said he or she knew more science than scientists.

  • earmarks
  • Posted by Art Leonard , Professor at NY Law School on October 28, 2008 at 11:40am EDT
  • Earmarks are a fraction of a percent of the federal budget. As such, they have little or nothing to do with the problem of excessive federal spending, and cutting them out entirely would not have any appreciable effect on the federal deficit, but they would in many instances defund significant projects that some member of Congress was persuaded would do significant good.

    I agree that the idea of earmarks is not a good one. Federal money should be spent in the national interest, and that should not be determined on the basis of one member of Congress using a system to divert money into the projects that she or he want to support personally, likely in some cases more for political rasons than for the merit of the project. On the other hand, the Republican talking points against earmarks in this campaign have been founded on distortion and ignorance.

    McCain rails away over and over about an outrageously expensive "overhead projector" funded through an earmark sought by Sen. Obama. That's either wilful ignorance or stupidity by McCain. This is a highly complex scientific projection device used in planetariums to simulate the sky, and such devices are generally the centerpiece of programs used in educational programs for thousands of school children every day around the country. They are also used to teach celestial navigation. McCain went to the Naval Academy. If he was paying attention instead of partying when he was there, he might know something about these projectors.

    Back in the day, Senator Proxmire used to ridicule particular earmarks at hearings, but usually on the basis of some study revealing a politically-motivated earmark of dubious merit. By contrast, in this campaign, McCain and Palin seem to be seizing upon things with titles they can ridicule without having bothered to find out whether they were actually meritorious projects.

    It's one thing to criticize the system, another to make a dumbed-down attack from ignorance.

  • THE REAL WASTE
  • Posted by Comm Prof on October 28, 2008 at 11:55am EDT
  • Earmarks are but a drop in the federal budget bucket, but complaining about them does make for sexy sound bytes that appeal to Joe the Plumber and his ilk. Realistic voters will worry far more about the high-dollar waste and other financial abuses heaped on us over the last eight years.

  • Posted by Bob Avakian , Whose Ear? on October 28, 2008 at 11:55am EDT
  • Earmarks are very contentious often being used for the common good and cutting red tape but as often benefiting the legislator more than anyone else.

    I suggest each legislator be given a fixed amount of money, adjusted for state population, to distribute each year at will, BUT the distributions must be published in the Congressional Record within 15 days of their award.

    Hopefully that gives us the best of both worlds, along with accountability.

    One thing you can say, at least McCain walks the walk on this one - he does not use earmarks, unlike his august opponent.

  • Posted by Angus on October 28, 2008 at 1:00pm EDT
  • Palin's comments were clearly in the context of controlling earmarks to sneak funding for pet projects that are purely end runs around the review system. These earmarks are a large part of the economic problems we see throughout the system. Palin is not anti-science, as you defensive commentors claim.
    Those of you who are criticizing Palin for this comment must also be saying that Obama's blanket statement of punishing companies that "ship jobs overseas" shows that Barack is anti-fruitfly also. Come on you guys, use your intellect without the emotion!!!

  • Strange Focus on Educational Earmarks
  • Posted by Drew Tatusko on October 28, 2008 at 1:10pm EDT
  • The point here is that the McCain-Palin campaign has mocked only specific earmarks that have educational and scientific purposes as cornerstones in their effort to root out corruption. They are strange examples at best given all of the other large expenditures that should be questioned. It is very clear from the stump speeches that they think this kind of thing is absurd and a waste of money. But why the strange obsession with scientific and educational earmarks as opposed to what have to be many more items that suck up much more money out of that 17 billion that again, they seem to have a myopic tendency to raise up and hyperbolize as the means to resolve the economic crises of the day?

  • Republican bashing???
  • Posted by Wayne Montgomery , Engineering Librarian at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo on October 28, 2008 at 2:20pm EDT
  • Sarah Palin and John McCain are science dim wits which would not be bad if they drove buses in Lincoln Nebraska. There are two serious issues here. One, that candidates for national office are beating up on science based upon twisted and incomplete information. The other point is that our national government, which is the major source of science funding, is populated by people who have such poor understanding of the benefits and processes of science. As for me, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

  • Anti-science?
  • Posted by WB Free on October 28, 2008 at 4:25pm EDT
  • Someone says with a straight face that Palin is not '"anti-science." No. She's just doesn't believe in evolution.

  • Posted by Denise on October 28, 2008 at 4:25pm EDT
  • There is no such thing as chump change, especially when your spending hard working Americans' money. The government machine is so huge nobody could possibly know where all the money goes. What percentage of our tax $ actually gets through to its intended purpose? We dump more and more money into the pot,yet barely see any results. How much is enough? While there is a place for federal funding for scientific research (some of the best contributions have come from NASA and the Department of Defence),there should be more accountability. But I believe, ultimately, the private sector is the best resourse for effective research and development.

  • Fruit Flies
  • Posted by ShirleyInOz on October 28, 2008 at 6:15pm EDT
  • What concerns me is not just what she said, which was bad enough: please take the time to find the video of her actually saying it. The snear, the arrogant, 'ignorant and proud of it' attitude with which she dismissed science is calculated to appeal to the lowest common denominator in this country. There ARE people who are uneducated, who have no hope, who hate people because of the colour of their skin, and hate them more when they are better educated. Have you seen some of these people on the news? Man. They scare me. Sarah Palin scares me more than any of them. Don't let her manicured finger hover over the Red Button.

  • Earmarks are the antithesis of scientific research
  • Posted by DaveO on October 28, 2008 at 6:20pm EDT
  • Governor Palin simply used rhetorical flourishes in highlighting this example to make her point. But you completely gloss over the central dispute here. Earmarks result in funding for scientific research that has not been deemed important enough by the normal proposal-peer review process. This results in less funding for projects which are deemed to have more merit.

  • Bus drivers and fruit flies
  • Posted by Jeff Hall on October 28, 2008 at 8:15pm EDT
  • "Sarah Palin and John McCain are science dim wits which would not be bad if they drove buses ..." - Wayne Montgomery, Engineering Librarian at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo

    Mr. Montgomery, I know some quite well-educated bus drivers. Most of them, for example, know how to spell the word "dimwit".

  • Palin's tricks
  • Posted by George T. Karnezis on October 29, 2008 at 5:10am EDT
  • It's disturbing to read Palin's defenders, most of whom miss the whole point of the article, namely, that she tells lies.

    Of course the really sad note is that NO ONE is talking these days (so far as I can tell) about the huge daily war expenditures. Instead, we play the game Karl Rove wants us to play by changing the subject and casting your candidates as frugal spenders whose priorities (helping disabled children, not researching fruit flies)are so much better than those silly lefties who want to redistribute the wealth to welfare queens. It's the same old Republican tactic: divide and conquer. let's hope they've gone to the well once too often, and that the voting is honest. My fears grow. . .

  • Frugal?
  • Posted by Marc on October 29, 2008 at 8:56am EDT
  • Let's not forget that "earmarks" are bad, so bad that they have to be stopped. After all most don't address the "good of the public."
    How arrogant! I guess spending $10 billion a month on a war that was based on lies and deception is prudent and necessary spending and let's not forget, for the public good.
    Science and research are absolutely vital
    and should not be assigned to the earmark column or a bill. We do not need leaders who would "trash" science merely because they don't understand it...

  • DaveO
  • Posted by Marc on October 29, 2008 at 9:15am EDT
  • So I suppose you see $10 Billion a month toward a bogus war is okay? $600 Billion could've sponsored and funded many vital
    bills inside the USA.

  • shooting the golden goose
  • Posted by random scholar , assistant professor at a small research university on October 29, 2008 at 5:05pm EDT
  • Denise, you claim to believe that "the private sector is the best resource for effective research and development."

    Development, sure, but research?
    Why think this?

    Do you think it's a coincidence that the most dramatic innovations in private-sector research (in IT and pharmaceuticals, most obviously) happen in a country with far and away the most vibrant and successful network of universities pursuing basic research, a significant amount of which is funded through federal agencies, such as the NSF and NIH?

    Also, on the point someone else made that there are existing federal agencies to provide research funding, that's not really on point: the French fly research was not a case of specific researchers seeking funds (in that case they ought to apply to NSF or elsewhere, not pressure their representatives for federal funds), but the state of California facing a potentially costly hit to a significant sector of their economy. Furthermore, timely research could help not only California but other states as well. So the relevant claimant here is the state, not the individual researchers.

    Anyway, Art and Drew pretty much nail it, imho: nothing wrong with railing against wasteful government spending, but at least take the time to check whether or not the spending is in fact wasteful, and don't go shooting at your golden goose (i.e. government spending on science education and basic research) in the process.

  • Posted by George on October 29, 2008 at 8:00pm EDT
  • You know what's really ironic, Palin chose to attack a research project that involves fruit flies (which btw was done to help a growth crop in California... yea keeping a healthy crop and economy strong in California is useless eh?)

    But the irony is that another fruit flies study actually has lead to the discovery of a protien that can be an influence in ... guess what ... Autism. Yep - you guessed it, Palin mocked science studies that low and behold are helping the cause her speech was all about.

    ahhh such irony it is...

    here's the fruit flies study that is on Autism for those who may think I'm making this up...

    http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/biotech/story/1809660/

    and a quote from the research article:

    ""The discovery, made in Drosophila fruit flies may lead to advances in understanding autism spectrum disorders, as recently, human neurexins have been identified as a genetic risk factor for autism.""

  • Bactrocera Oleae
  • Posted by Jen on October 30, 2008 at 10:55am EDT
  • "Many scientists abhor earmarks, believing that peer review is the best way to give out funds."

    Key point Scott--and the earmark that Palin brought up was a poster child for this type of abuse.

    Bactrocera Oleae is not even in the same family as Drosophila--so P Z Myers and his buddies were dead wrong in their assumption. Not that they care. The truth doesn't matter when they consider Palin. It has been astroturfed all over the web without basic important facts and present Palin in "dehumanizing" terms.

    The Olive Fruit Fly (OLFF) has been studied extensively. It is a pest that ONLY targets olive trees. California olive farmers already have organic methods that reduce crop loss to 3%. The USDA-ARS and the State of California have spent millions on the problem.

    Most of the Olive Farmers in Thompson's district have small orchards and produce "Artisan" blends that sell for over $50.00 a gallon. I've looked it up-- They are huge donors to Thompson. Plain and simple this is a perfect example of Science funded by congressional fiat based on a donor list--not merit. Scientists should be outraged that this goes on. Millions of tax payer dollars are wasted in this way. Just think of the dollars that could be spent on really important scientific matters like finding a genetic link to Autism.

    The Palin hatred has gone over the top. The scientific community is supposed to be rational and fact based. Neither is true when it comes to Palin. So called scientists are ready to believe any vicious gossip that comes their way--without any attempt to verify the assertions.

  • Who make the call?
  • Posted by teJAS on October 30, 2008 at 8:05pm EDT
  • I know of the extensive use of fruit flies in basic research and the value of international collaboration. After all, I didn't sleep through basic biology in high school. It is a legitimate question whether this particular project was worth the taxpayers' candle. I hope and pray those decisions are made by someone with a scientific background and not by Joe the Plumber or some other blissfully ignorant ideologue. Yes we can.

  • Posted by George on October 31, 2008 at 5:00am EDT
  • Fruit flies are one of the most basic model systems in biological studies. Only people who are clueless about scientific research will mock such studies. This is the problem with having non-scientists dictating the operations of the scientific community. For those who are so concerned about uncontrolled spending by the so-called earmarks, why not tackle it at places with REAL wasteful spending, like, say, the billions of dollars spent in Iraq and the made-to-believe War on Terror?

  • Posted by Grant on November 2, 2008 at 8:40am EST
  • I can only imagine what would happen to science funding if Mccain won. 3 million dollars for a planetarium?

    http://notimeforclocks.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/15/

  • looking it up ...
  • Posted by Random Scholar , assistant professor at a small research university on November 2, 2008 at 3:25pm EST
  • Well Jen, since you've "looked it up", perhaps you can provide some citations and links, so that we can assess the merits of your extensive research on this specific question?

  • looking it up, continued ...
  • Posted by random scholar , assistant professor at a small research university on November 2, 2008 at 3:30pm EST
  • Jen, I'm going to go ahead and assume that you are basing your claims pretty much exclusively on the following link?

    http://www.sfc.ucdavis.edu/research/olive.pdf

    ... and in particular, the following remark made by the author there? (and maybe in passing some of the introductory remarks about the scale of this industry in California) ...

    "Recent research in California has shown that untreated trees can have close to 100% damage by mid October while mass trapping can reduce damage down to about 30% damage and the two spray techniques down to less than about 3% damage. All of these methods are organic (Vossen and Kicenik Devarenne, 2006)."

    Vossen, P. M. and A. Kicenik Devarenne. 2006. Comparison of mass trapping, barrier film, and spinosad bait for the control of olive fruit fly in small scale orchards and landscapes in coastal California. Proceedings of Olivebioteq, Marsala, Italy. Vol. 2:267-274.

    That's a lot to hang your wide-ranging indictment on: we have no sense of the relative costs or longer-term efficacy of these organic techniques (no fault of these authors, to be sure, who clearly weren't out to sustain your charges of pork and waste, and your populist tilting against small sectors and affluent effete olive oil consumers).