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December 1, 2008

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If tuition policy is a vexed question in normal budget years for public universities, it will be especially challenging to discuss public policy on the subject this year. States are facing record deficits and many public colleges are seeing enrollment and application increases -- a formula that could combine to create large, unpopular tuition increases.

In this environment, the leaders of a national association of public universities hope to shift the debate -- calling for better information about what really is going on with college costs, and also urging colleges to consider some potentially radical ways to control their costs. "University Tuition, Consumer Choice and College Affordability," being released today by the National Association of State Universities and Land-Grant Colleges, both defends public higher education and criticizes it. While suggesting that colleges are more affordable than many people realize today, the report sees a "looming affordability challenge" in which public institutions could move out of the reach of many Americans, a potential shift that the association sees as counter to the values of its institutions.

The beginning of the report -- consistent with efforts by others in higher education -- tries to shift public attention away from colleges' sticker prices and broad generalizations about affordability, arguing that sticker prices rarely reflect what students actually pay and that affordability depends both on the charges of a college and the means of a student, and is thus unique for individual circumstances. The report then goes on to suggest that much is unknown about whether colleges can save money through various means -- such as providing more instruction online -- and suggests that now is the time for serious research on such questions. The report faults universities for not having the data that would allow for better decision making.

Peter McPherson, president of the association and co-author of the report, said that much of the work on it predated the recession, but that getting attention for these ideas and questions is "more pertinent than ever." Even if the coming year is unlikely to be a good one for public higher education, McPherson said it was essential to make both university and state leaders understand the consequences of decisions on state appropriations, tuition policy and the way universities are run. There is not "an extra bag of money" around universities to bring out this year, he said. The report's co-author is David Shulenburger, NASULGC's vice president for academic affairs. He too acknowledged that this year may not be ideal for reasoned debate on tuition policy, but said that "this isn't a short-term problem" and will not get a short-term solution. (A podcast interview with McPherson and Shulenburger is available here.)

In terms of the present, the report notes that public universities are not expensive compared to other costs faced by Americans. The report notes, for example, that tuition and fees at the average public research university are $719 per month (based on a nine-month academic calendar), or about 11 percent of average family income.

The problems the report identifies come from trends of the recent past and the future. In recent years, the report notes, increases in public university tuition have not been used to improve the quality of instruction and other services, but to offset the declines in the relative share of support coming from state appropriations. Looking ahead, the report sees affordability issues created by shifting demographics, in which more of the potential student body will be coming from disadvantaged groups with lower family incomes. Further, based on current government projections, the report suggests that the share of family income required to pay tuition and fees (even after discounting is applied for institutional or other aid) is likely to get too large for many families. Among sectors examined, only community colleges are unlikely to see a significant shift in share of family income required, the report says.

Proportion of Family Income Required to Pay Tuition

Year Private, High-Level Research Universities Public, High-Level Research Universities Community Colleges
2006 57.3% 11.1% 5.5%
2006 (with discounting) 38.5% 9.3% 5.1%
2036 97.9% 28.5% 6.4%
2036 (with discounting) 65.8% 24.0% 6.0%

So if public universities are at risk of having their tuition levels rise to unacceptable levels, and have already made considerable cuts and adjustments in their budgets to deal with inadequate state support, and enrollments are about to rise, how should public policy change?

The report offers a variety of steps that public universities and states might consider:

  • "Unbundling" costs to better understand and perhaps control them. The report suggests that public universities are unusual economic organizations in American society in that their costs are so integrated, or "bundled." The same professors may perform research (either with or without major outside support), teach (either undergraduates and/or graduate students) and offer service to their institutions, disciplines or society. At a community college, the report says, faculty time is clearly instructional. But measuring the costs of undergraduate education at a research university may be "very difficult," and that, in turn, may make cost control "nearly impossible," the report says. While the report acknowledges that "unbundling" is easier said than done, it urges public universities to consider how costs can be separated for closer examination. And it notes that competitors to public universities -- such as for-profit higher education, which has moved into areas once dominated by public universities -- have no such difficulty.
  • Shift the tuition discussion to one about "investment," as opposed to "a consumer purchase." A long-standing goal of many college leaders has been to have the public view spending on higher education as advancing a societal gain, not just a benefit for the recipient. The report reiterates this view, and calls for a sustained effort to shift attitudes. "[A] society that tends to view higher education as a consumer good rather than an investment good will tend to perpetuate elites who have themselves had a higher education and will endeavor to afford one for their children. The children of the poor will tend to remain poor as they will get much less higher education," the report says.
  • Better define the benefits that individuals do receive from higher education. While many students (and their tuition-paying parents) believe that attending a high quality college will yield higher incomes in post-graduate life, the report says that there is little objective data on the relationships between attending certain colleges and subsequent economic success. "No university can legitimately claim that their students learn more than do students graduating from competing universities," the report says. If universities would develop "credible data" on the impact of their educations, the public would better understand the value of higher education and less credible measures (such as rankings) might lose some of their popularity, the report says.
  • Change the way higher education is delivered. Public universities should consider whether offering substantially more instruction online, or through course redesigns that change the way instructors interact with students, would be more cost-effective while assuring quality. In addition, universities may want to consider efforts to reduce time to degree, going beyond efforts for four-year graduation to more three-year programs. The report says that such ideas need to be tested and evaluated, but that public higher education needs to move away from any presumption that long-standing practice is necessarily the best practice.
  • Restore state appropriations to "more appropriate levels." While the report acknowledges all the difficulties in doing so, it urges public universities not to accept the status quo with regard to state support -- and to push for a return to the idea of a more meaningful contribution from state coffers.

McPherson stressed that NASULGC wasn't trying to impose some particular combination of these options, but that it wanted to offer a variety of ideas to get a renewed discussion under way about tuition and appropriation policy. "Public policy in hard times is always hard," he said.

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  • No studies of distance learning costs? Hmm
  • Posted by finaidfollies on December 1, 2008 at 7:05am EST
  • Unbundle costs for better scrutiny? Absolutely. More rigorous study of the cost of distance learning? Sorely needed.

    There's been whining that distance learning in fact does not lower costs, and by some assessments might even raise them. Am I the only one guessing the real reason that no one wants to look too closely at the costs of distance learning?

    Everyone understands that distance learning, properly administered, can deliver quality education to large numbers of students. Unfortunately, this will mean the end of the fiscal gravy train for a lot of schools.

    The blue chip privates enjoy gilding the lily with 'personalized learning', as it's the best way to justify tuition increases at double the annual inflation rate since, roughly, the Korean War. Their shameless increases are the fig leaf for schools further down the food chain to follow suit.

    Along comes a truly disruptive technology, and what are we told? Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

  • The Affordability Challenge is Here and Now
  • Posted by Jim Boyle , President at College Parents of America on December 1, 2008 at 7:25am EST
  • To opine that students and their families are facing a "looming affordability challenge" for college is like saying that the Big 3 automakers face a "looming budget challenge." The college affordability crisis is here and now, and university officials must first face up to that fact, and demonstrate that they can hold down their own costs, before they can reasonably expect state or federal officials to increase the government subsidy to a system that is already bloated with inefficiencies. It can be done - Maryland is one example - but university leadership must step up and demand greater productivity from teachers and administrators. Until then, parents footing the bill will rightly remain skeptical of the value of yet another report telling them what they already feel in their checkbook.

  • Responsibility, accountability, transparency & results
  • Posted by Frank on December 1, 2008 at 8:30am EST
  • When Peter McPherson was president of Michigan State, he signed "The MSU Promise."

    That promise to MSU students and their supporters: that MSU tuition cost increases would NOT grow willy-nilly faster than the general rate of inflation. With the support of the "peace dividend," rise of the Internet, and the Reagan tax cuts, that signed statement held for more than five years.

    Today -- where are signed presidential promises by the Public Ivys? The Ivys?

    Too complicated? Oh, my .. what will they do, when they run out of tax support? "Will critically-think for food" signs be required?

    A history on this --

    http://tinyurl.com/insidehighered-mcpherson

  • unbundling costs
  • Posted by Charles Schwartz , Professor Emeritus at U. California, Berkeley on December 1, 2008 at 10:05am EST
  • I have found an objective way to unbundle the cost of undergraduate education at leading research universities, beginning with my own University of California. The results are shocking and unacceptable to my colleagues. (See my web site for details.)
    The main center of misleading cost methodology is NACUBO (National Association of College and University Business Officers)which says we should charge the entire cost of Departmental Research to Instruction, and then pass that on as cost for undergraduate education.

  • Posted by Who Pays and Why on December 1, 2008 at 10:05am EST
  • In these discussions there is little attention paid to using 'who benefits' from higher ed to set tuition expectations. Three major outcomes of higher ed are: the capability for a more intellectually complex life (benefits the student); providing better citizens (benefits the state); and increased readiness for employment (benefit split between the state and individual). This 50/50 split of the benefits makes a similar split of the cost reasonable. If instruction can be provided for about $10,000/year http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2008/07/08/fried than about $5,000 in tuition would be fair. Students can choose to pay more, just as they might buy a Cadillac rather than a Chevy, but a uniformly-available inexpensive public education with the student paying half would be a reasonable target for any state.

  • Please...Don't stoop to that level.
  • Posted by Alan Collinge , founder at Studentloanjustice.org on December 1, 2008 at 10:20am EST
  • I have not yet read this study, but see statements such as "public universities are not expensive compared to other costs faced by Americans", and, "shifting the tuition discussion", and I think I see where this is going...it looks suspiciously like an attempt to shirk responsibility for raising tuition at double the CPI in the past, or preparing the public for an even greater increase in the near future...and during a deflationary period when the consumers are at the breaking point.

    It is an incontrovertible fact that students and their families have been required to pay (or more likely borrow) ever increasing amounts for higher education, to the point where our nation, as a whole, owes about $600 billion in student loan debt. Even adjusting for inflation, this looks like an exponential curve !!!

    The citizens aren't blind, and they aren't idiots. They see the excesses on campus. We see the climbing rock walls, the brand new dorms, computer labs, property acquisitions, etc. They hear about the ballooning presidents, coaches, and other salaries as well. They also are aware of very questionable relationships between lenders and universities, both on campus, and on capitol hill.

    Also, the weak, correlative argument that points to the lifetime earnings of college graduates vs. non college graduates is beginning to sound like dogma. This is a weak argument that fails to establish a causal link between college and earnings. If one takes a sample of wealthy individuals, one can find any number of attributes that are relatively unique to them compared with the general population.

    Attempting to "Shift the tuition discussion to one about investment, as opposed to a consumer purchase " is disturbing.

    It makes me think that the universities are going to lobby along with the loan industry to increase loan limits, and gain backing private, loans, and thus railroad the students into higher loans. These loans (;ublic or private) are shockingly absent of even the most basic consumer protections, and may not realize a "return" for the borrower- in fact, they may well ruin a borrowers life, financially. Not hurt. Ruin.

    Using sophisticated arguments to convince the citizens that they actually aren't paying an arm and a leg for college and colluding with the lenders on the Hill has worked well for the universities many times in the past, but it has to end. Enough!

  • Posted by Max Jerrell on December 1, 2008 at 10:20am EST
  • The real problem is that costs in universities is revenue driven.

  • University Costs
  • Posted by George on December 1, 2008 at 11:45am EST
  • Here are a few items that would reduce student costs but are unacceptable to the tenured faculty. Make better use of the facilities. Our state university is empty on Friday and Saturday. Have tenured faculty teach more than 20 - 40 students total. They currently teach only two classes and the majority have less than 40 students. Hire business administration people to administer the business aspects and don't "promote" tenured faculty into business slots. Get rid of the high priced administrative positions. Stop the "joint governance" c**p and let the adminstrators administrate and the tenured faculty teach. Do research for fun and teaching for profit. Most of the faculty joint governance meeting I have gone to are just a waste of time.

  • Statistic?
  • Posted by IR Director , Dir. of IR & Assessment on December 1, 2008 at 12:25pm EST
  • "The report notes, for example, that tuition and fees at the average public research university are $719 per month (based on a nine-month academic calendar), or about 11 percent of average family income."

    The average family income in the US is not $78,436 (median = $50K is more like it). That's more like the family income of current college students, which is income-bias; even then, it's more like the family income of those attending private 4-year colleges. Selection of this statistic is inappropriate in an assessment of affordability of higher education -- affordable for whom?

  • Authors' Reply
  • Posted by David E. Shulenburger , Presiden and Vice President at NASULGC on December 1, 2008 at 12:45pm EST
  • The major purpose of our paper is to lay the fact-based ground-work for a serious conversation about preserving and enhancing affordability. The paper is long and complex as the matter warrants. Our replies in no way substitute for a thorough reading of the paper.

    Comments to the effect that universities must show they can hold down cost before they will be taken seriously simply ignore the findings of this paper and of the excellent “The Growing Imbalance” paper. Costs per student in public universities in real terms have been nearly constant for twenty years. Public universities have not had the educational budget, i.e. the sum of net tuition plus state appropriation, to support higher cost per student. They have been forced to live within constant budgets. The higher bills paid by students for attending public universities are due to higher tuition which has been increased in an amount that roughly equals the decline in state appropriations. Parents footing the bill ought to be directing more of their concern to state legislators.

    It may be true that cost in universities is revenue driven. However, what this paper demonstrates is that in public higher education cost per student and revenue per student have been constant for the last twenty years. This is consistent with the thesis. The long-term question is whether quality will suffer. While we do not have a measure of quality that would answer this, we express concern that the amount that in this same period public universities pay faculty has fallen roughly 20% behind the amount private universities pay faculty and faculty to student ratios have also fallen. The revenue constraint on cost has produced this result.

    The notion that there should be a 50/50 split between the share of educational cost borne by students and the state is an interesting and ironic goal. Currently state appropriations amount to 63% of the cost of higher education and tuition represents 37%. In 1986, 77% of the cost was borne by the state and students bore 23% of the cost. Unless this trend is countered, we will be unfortunately at the suggested 50% level in another decade. What this illustrates is the misunderstanding of the economics of higher education as opposed to the economics of universities. This paper focuses on how higher education is actually financed in public universities and that is primarily by net tuition and state appropriations. Universities are complex operations that include hospitals, research labs, medical schools, extension programs, etc. When one sees figures that show that the state portion of cost in universities is 20% or less, those figures almost always are for total university budgets and not for university higher education portion of those budgets. The reality is that the revenues that come in to finance the non-educational functions of the university generally cannot be shifted to finance education. Thus a fair analysis has to separate higher education costs from all university costs.

    A major theme of the paper is that the affordability challenge can be approached from many sides; states could provide more resources, universities could work to reduce cost, and student could make choices among universities and the way they approach higher education. We do not recommend any one solution but place on the table many alternatives to be considered and invite the suggestion of others. Relying on States to supply more funds or waiting until universities have reduced costs, leaves the student who wants a higher education now with choices to make. Those choices can make higher education affordable to them or not. The paper does demonstrate that public university tuition is affordable to students who choose an institution that fits their budget. True, the range of tuitions is immense and not every student can afford every university. It is also true that the range of amenities offered by universities is immense. When one is making an investment that will affect the remainder of one’s life, one has to choose the university one attends with a view to its costs and the benefits associated with attending it. It is indeed important to student that the range of choices exists and to policy-makers to know that the range exists.

    It is also important to demonstrate that public higher education is productive when viewed in investment terms. There has of late been much hyperbole to the effect that higher education was not an investment that pays and that must be countered. Students need to know that the best route to social and economic mobility, higher education, is open to them. It is also true that one can have tuition levels that would produce negative returns for the students. Public higher education tuition is not at these levels now and need not be if society acts to adopt some of the alternatives we suggest.

    David Shulenburger and Peter McPherson

  • Advocacy, Pure and Simple
  • Posted by Jim Boyle , President at College Parents of America on December 1, 2008 at 2:00pm EST
  • While the paper's authors can try to claim that their writings lay a "fact-based ground-work for a serious conversation about preserving and enhancing affordability" of college, the thrust of their arguments form nothing less than a line in the sand to ward off any perceived bullies who dare claim a legitimate spot on the beachfront properties that form the NASULGC institutions. The piece is advocacy, pure and simple, and to try to cast it otherwise belies the authors' purpose, which comes through loud and clear in their full-bore rejoinder to a handful of questioning comments. Not that there is anything wrong with advocacy, but let's not confuse that with reporting, which is far better left to the folks on the Inside Higher Ed team.

  • Author's Reply
  • Posted by David E. Shulenburger , Vice President at NASULGC on December 1, 2008 at 2:35pm EST
  • IR Director writes that "average family income is not $78,436." The specification used is for the "median income of family households". According to Table H-9 of the U.S. Census Bureau, the 2006 value for this category is $78,454. If one prefers using the median income for family households, that figure is $59,894. The monthly payment of $719 amounts to 14.35% of the median income for family households.

    David Shulenburger

  • Time for hard discussions
  • Posted by Frank on December 1, 2008 at 3:30pm EST
  • These are times for hard discussions.

    Today is not the golden days of post-WWII, when the USA had no real economic challengers, and plenty of $$$ was available for D-1 sports, weekend parties, and student rioting and protests.

    Today, Asia and Europe are eating the USA alive economically -- per the "Detroit 3" in D.C. And higher ed is affected.

    Simply saying that higher-ed should get X% of state funding is not a workable answer. The public employee unions and auto company unions claimed that for decades -- now look at their situation.

    http://tinyurl.com/5vdncj

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1862444,00.html

    Some of the hard questions, not being addressed:

    1. Why do so many students arrive on campus, unprepared? Why do 30% of incoming freshmen NOT graduate within six years?

    2. How productive is the faculty and teaching facilities?

    3. How high are performance standards for students, faculty, staff and executive management? On weekends?

    4. Why, if a TT soft-side position can draw 300+ applicants, are some departments continuing to produce PhDs? Where is the "societal value" there?

    5. What are being done about huge fixed costs (e.g., buildings, tenured faculty who no longer teach or produce research effectively)?

    6. Is big "always" better? Are there diseconomies of scale?

    7. What about out-sourcing? Is higher-ed about education -- or unionized jobs? If the latter -- then say it.

    8. Are there too many colleges in the USA (per Vedder & Jay Greene)?

    9. Who is "subsidizing" whom? Is it fair for the 65% who chose NOT to go to college to subsidize those MDs, lawyers, bankers, et al., who do? What academic departments are providing "societal value?" Versus a "Freddie/Fannie" experience?

    These are times for hard questions.

  • A Bubble?
  • Posted by Michael Andrus on December 1, 2008 at 4:30pm EST
  • I've long wondered if higher education tuition costs are a bubble that may burst. Whenever I walk onto the campus of the University of South Carolina (in Columbia, where I live) I am amazed at the opulence of some of the newer facilities. Some of the buildings look like five star hotels and I'm not sure how that relates to education, exactly.

    Maybe a time will come when mom and dad only want to pay for an education and not the frills. Then the bubble may just burst.

  • Cut, Cut Cut!
  • Posted by Cato on December 1, 2008 at 4:55pm EST
  • There are a lot of things that can and should be cut if people are truly concerned about making higher education affordable.

    One place to begin is with remedial courses: let applicants know what the expectations are in core subjects (and make them as high as they were, say, in 1965, when SATs peaked), and let them know that if they don't met expectations, they won't be students any longer.

    Everyone here talks about how to get more from the taxpayers: nonsense! The taxpayers don't have more to give. They're already taxed more than they want to be.

    I, too, remember the heyday of the late 1950s and early 1960s in California when the University of California could get just about anything it wanted from the legislature. But, c'mon, the state and local tax rates in those days were very low compared to today, And, taxpayers didn't feel the university was promoting radicalism -- a perception that in California at least has been the case (and pretty much true) since Berkeley became Berzerkeley in the mid-1960s. That's when the people began to revolt.

  • Why is higher ed productivity stagnant?
  • Posted by quadrupole on December 1, 2008 at 5:00pm EST
  • The really interesting question is, even if you buy that spending per pupil has been constant over the last 20 years in public research universities... why has it been stagnant? In almost every other industry in the country productivity has reduced the cost of almost every other good and almost every other service... why not higher ed?

  • Posted by John K. Lunde on December 1, 2008 at 5:40pm EST
  • In the fifty or so years I've been aware of the education scene, I've seen employers increasingly require degrees for entry positions that were once open to high school graduates. There may be some slight justification for this but I suspect that most of it is due to 'swank'; the higher the class of the employee, the higher-class the employer feels.

    Is it too much to suggest that thus serving as the gatekeepers to 'the good life' has let colleges charge whatever the traffic (and a conscience made easy by the sense of Doing Good) will bear?

    My suggestion, firmly tongue in cheek, is for a federal tax on the employment of college graduates; say $1000 per year for each BA, $2000 for each MA and so on. In the unlikely event such a tax was adopted, I'm sure employers would suddenly realize many of their jobs could be done by non degreed workers, young people would be able to go to work directly from high school without a crushing debt burden and the colleges would empty out and have to bring tuition down to compete for the remaining students.

    Tough on the colleges but then they haven't exactly worked at making themselves loved.

  • cost of college
  • Posted by Michael Kennedy on December 1, 2008 at 5:40pm EST
  • I am getting a worm's eye view of the decline in standards in college education by helping my daughter with her English assignments in freshman English at the U of Arizona. Her last essay assignment was to analyze the movie The Quiet Man for racism, sexism, masculine and feminine roles and relationships. I thought this was an interesting topic (although I would prefer they be reading books) until I saw her reference materials. To abbreviate the messages: men are bad and violent; women should be equal in all manifestations of culture and activity; and capitalism makes a good family life more difficult. I doubt the Irish villagers of 1925 even knew they were capitalists.

    Other assignments have included the analysis of "Edward Scissorhands" as a victim and a short story whose plot I cannot describe in a family web site.

    One of her friends (male) had an interesting experience in one of these classes. No wonder boys are opting out. Of course, her class is taught by a female grad student.

  • Posted by Michael K on December 1, 2008 at 6:25pm EST
  • The real problem is coming as the recent crop of graduates look at there greatly devalued undergraduate degrees, their large student loans and are now being asked to mortgage their homes to allow their children to repeat the same cycle. High costs are only part of the problem, value is the other - A BA is about as useful as a high school degree.

  • What About Room and Board
  • Posted by John Bowers on December 1, 2008 at 7:15pm EST
  • The discussion on the percentage of average/median income is nice, but anybody with a student in college today (I have two) knows that room/board/incidentals is just as bad if not worse than tuition.

    One suggestion to cut costs: consolidate small departments/programs. Take all of those "sudies" programs and put them in the History/English/Philosophy/Sociology departmens (where they belong) and cut out a lot of admin overhead

  • enrollment increases
  • Posted by Randy Moss on December 1, 2008 at 11:00pm EST
  • I don't understand why increases in enrollment don't lead to lower costs. What is the marginal cost to adding one more student to a freshman lecture hall of 200 students? Nothing.

  • productivity and costs
  • Posted by Chris on December 1, 2008 at 11:00pm EST
  • If you want to know why costs increase despite a lack of productivity increases see the following.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol's_cost_disease
    The bottom line is that in the teaching profession it is virtually impossible to increase productivity and maintain quality. Do you believe that this would not have been accomplished were it possible? Look at how many people build cars, collect garbage, or anything else in this country. Technology has increased productivity but there is just no good way to do this with the teaching profession. Weekend or on-line courses certainly have their place, but it still requires the same labor to grade the papers, moderate comment boards, etc. If the quality is to remain, decent labor costs will be high. On-line courses are to a quality education what on-line porn is to intercourse. It is fine for some purposes, but has limits.

    And I would argue that in many respects, faculty productivity has increased. My experience is very limited but having taught at a large public university and a medium sized private university I can tell you for certain that requirements for tenure have been ratcheted up in my profession (more research and service, and in the public setting more students). We should certainly debate the utility of more obscure journal articles from a societal standpoint (and I would say that in most cases there is littel utility), and ask whether more resources should be put toward teaching. Why are bidirectional schools requiring an article a year for tenure when the resources available practically guarantee that these publications will have no influence on the field? Wouldn't resources be better put toward instruction in these institutions?

  • Dangerous Assumptions
  • Posted by skeptic on December 1, 2008 at 11:00pm EST
  • There are two dangerous assumptions about modern college education:

    1) A college education is always highly valuable,

    As more and more people get degrees, this assumption becomes less and less valid.

    The decline of classical education (and its replacement by modernist, post-modernist, etc fads) has destroyed the "better citizen, broad education" value of most college education.

    The high number of degreed individuals reduces the screening value, for employers, of a degree. Unfortunately, as mentioned by another commenter, too many employers require degrees by default.

    2) All fields of study are equivalent.

    If universities unbundled their services, including different pricing for degrees in different subjects, it would quickly become apparent that some departments are not highly valued by the consumer of education.

    Why should somebody pay several hundred thousand dollars for a bachelors degree in English or Feminist Studies?

  • Tuition costs
  • Posted by garrett on December 2, 2008 at 5:30am EST
  • One thing that I noticed you did not mention in the continuing diversification in offerings. Offerings that attract relatively few students are nevertheless staffed with Chairs, full professors, and support staff. Similarly, the lack of a true core, or cannon, if you prefer, makes the comparison of the benefits of attending different education institutions impossible to measure. Finally, there is a lack of emphasis on fulfilling graduation requirements in a required time frame, which increases the total package cost. Far from migrating away from a business model, you would do well to study its benefits and apply then accordingly. And BTW, the education that you receive at a community college is highly comparable to the education that you receive at universities in the first two years; sometimes better, sometimes worse. Finally, an crucially, education is not a state that is delivered, it is a service provided. The student's willingness to work and to receive the education is a very large factor.

  • Posted by Roger Godby on December 2, 2008 at 5:30am EST
  • Costs can be reduced be eliminating departments (and their faculty) that don't draw students. I would suggest (Blank) Studies as a good starting point. Why would an employer hire a (Blank) Studies graduate who has few if any marketable skills but has been trained to see or imagine victimization and oppression everywhere.

    There was a recent article in Britain's Telegraph (I think it was) in which funding was proposed to be tied to graduation and hiring rates. That is an idea with potential that will be fought tooth and nail.

  • Change the Discussion
  • Posted by Tuition Payer on December 6, 2008 at 8:05pm EST
  • In changing the discussion, we honestly need to include the word "gouging" in considering college costs. Perennial increases well above the cost of living are simply unacceptable.

    First, looking primarily at in-state tuition is bases this whole analysis on an already subsidized rate. If the focus is on public universities (and it should not be), then the out-of-state "cost" is the appropriate metric.

    Second, comparing the "cost" to other expenses, or preferring to discuss "affordability" instead of price changes the subject away from responsible cost management. Despite the assertion that universities have done well at managing costs, I'm confident that a look at administrative staffing and salaries and professorial workload would challenge this pat on the back. Having recently received letters from four college presidents about the current economic environment, only one mentioned any substantive effort to control costs. I'll note as a tuition payer, that the $719 per month metric is laughably low.

    Third, speaking about "net tuition" is also laughable. Your customer pays "gross tuition". These efforts need to consider what families pay, actually pay, not some malleable net number.

    Fourth, we need to challenge this move to discuss the "investment value" - this is just an excuse for ongoing gouging and less accountability for cost. How about looking at a true value metric, like the ratio of tuition and fees to starting salaries over time? This metric has is no doubt falling in inverse proportion to the rate of tuition increases over the rate of inflation.

    Finally, a realistic rethinking of higher education's approach to pricing needs to take place. This "ability to pay" pricing is unacceptable for any other consumer purchase (ah, so that's why we need to move the discussion away from this definition!). Look at the travesty of the FAFSA. Why does any institution of higher learning have a claim on the equity in my home? or in my retirement savings? The notion that a college can charge me differently than my neighbor across the street because I saved more, or earn less, or because the student is "diverse" simply is unjust and goes against any notion of fairness and equal protection under the law. And please don't get me started on the notion of a loan being considered "financial aid". A loan does not make college more affordable and does neither the student or parents any favor at all. I suspect that we would find that colleges simply have raised tuition in concert with increases in loan-based "aid".

    The bottom line today, is that college costs (the price that families actually pay) are too high, have been growing too fast, and are something that colleges have not shown any real interest in managing at all.

  • "Delivering" Education
  • Posted by Sheila , Professor of Biblical Studies at John Carroll University on January 11, 2009 at 6:10am EST
  • PLEASE! Flowers are delivered. Education is not "delivered," it is undergone. Must we relinquish the unique character of this enterprise and stoop to business/marketing terminology? For what? To make the public better understand what we do? Hardly! As a tuition-paying parent, I'm all for having a discussion about higher ed costs, but I want to be talking about HIGHER EDUCATION, not about manufacturing. SEM