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January 29, 2009

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Medical students are more likely to suffer from depression than the general population is, and black students in medical school are particularly prone to frequent suicidal thoughts, according to a new study published in Academic Medicine.

Billed as the first large-scale study of its kind, the study examined surveys from more than 2,000 medical students and found some chilling results. The overall depression rate for medical students is 21.2 percent, more than double the commonly reported rate of about 10 percent for the general population.

The article, “Depressive Symptoms in Medical Students and Residents: A Multischool Study,” drew upon surveys distributed to medical students and residents at six sites in 2003-4. The authors picked sites with higher than average minority populations, aiming for a sample that would reflect the growing numbers of women and members of minority groups in medical school student bodies.

In addition to studying depression rates, the study examined the prevalence of suicidal thoughts among medical students and residents. Of the total sample, 5.7 percent reported having frequent suicidal thoughts. That figure is relatively consistent with the rate of suicidal thoughts in the general population, as reported in the National Comorbidity Study.

Suicidal thoughts were particularly prevalent among black students, 13 percent of whom reported “suicidal ideation.” Indigenous students, including American Indians, Pacific Islanders and Alaskan Natives, had an even higher rate -- 16.1 percent. The response rate for that cohort, however, was just 31 students -- half the size of the black student sample.

Deborah Goebert, the lead author of the article, said there are a number of factors inherent in the medical school experience that may contribute to the higher rates of depression the surveys detected.

“Certainly it’s a stressful time,” said Goebert, associate director of psychiatry research at the University of Hawaii’s John A. Burns School of Medicine. “There’s a lot of learning and responsibility not just for yourself, but then you’re also caring for others.

“A lot [of the stress], I think, is related to sleep cycles and expectations,” she added. “And the other thing is that the field is changing so rapidly, even while they’re there. I think that’s also an overwhelming aspect.”

Charles Reynolds, senior associate dean of the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, said the study is yet another indication that medical schools need to step up efforts to provide mental health resources to students. Reynolds co-wrote a commentary in the February issue of Academic Medicine, referring to the new study as a “clarion call to action on the part of leadership in the nations’ schools of medicine and academic health centers.”

“The time is right for strong leadership to change the culture of medicine,” Reynolds wrote, with co-author Dr. Paula Clayton, medical director of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

The “culture” in medical schools is in many ways analogous to that of the military, another institution that has struggled to erase the stigma of seeking mental health care, Reynolds said in an interview Wednesday.

“We’re supposed to be strong, and to admit we may have a medical illness like depression just doesn’t come easily to us,” Reynolds said.

Future doctors may also have reservations about reporting symptoms of depression, fearing it might affect their careers. Most state medical boards, however, no longer specifically ask about mental health issues or substance abuse, Reynolds said. Instead, physicians are asked whether they have any condition that will permit them from functioning on the job. As such, it’s less likely that self-reporting mental health problems will impact a doctor’s career, Reynolds said.

“I wouldn’t say that it’s not a realistic concern at all,” he said. “My sense is that it’s less of a concern now than it used to be.”

Levels Differ By Year, Gender

The data collected for the article in Academic Medicine, which is the journal of the Association of American Medical Schools, may also give new evidence about the most risk-prone years in the medical student experience. For medical students, the highest rates of depression -- nearly 25 percent -- occurred in the second year of study. For residents, the third year proved the most perilous, with 14.6 percent reporting depression.

Over all, medical students reported rates of depression nearly twice as high as those of residents. Of the sample, nearly 22 percent of medical students exhibited signs of depression, compared with about 12 percent of residents.

There were also significant differences in responses based on gender. Women had a 21.6 percent depression rate, compared with a 15.6 percent rate for men.

To determine depression levels, the authors asked students to respond to surveys that included content from the Center for Epidemiologic Studies-Depression scale, a widely used self-reporting instrument to measure symptoms. The Primary Care Evaluation of Mental Disorders was also employed.

Trainee Type % Probable Minor/Moderate Depression % Probable Major Depression % Frequent Suicidal Thoughts
Medical Student 8.1% 13.6% 6.6%
Resident 4.7% 7.2% 3.9%
Male 7.7% 7.9% 5.3%
Female 6.4% 15.2% 6.1%
White 8.9% 13% 4.5%
Asian 9.2% 13.9% 6.3%
Black 19.1% 12.8% 13%
Hispanic 12.2% 9.5% 7.6%
Indigenous (Alaska Native, American Indian, Pacific Islander) 13.9% 9.5% 16.1%
Total 9.2% 12% 5.7%
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Comments on Tolls of Med School

  • Comparison to Graduate School in General?
  • Posted by Bchem on January 29, 2009 at 10:15am EST
  • Whenever you take a group of people who have been told that they are "the best" and put them together in quasi or real competition some will discover that they are not as strong as they had been told. In some students I have seen this start a spiral of depression based on letting themselves, family, and all those who supported them down. It happens to some in their undergraduate years, but to many in graduate and professional schools.

    In chemistry PhD programs this issue has come up a couple of times during my career, and I don't doubt that is is a fairly general problem.

    None of this is suggesting that this is not an issue to be addressed, but perhaps there is a broader community within which to have the discussion.

    One thing that might help would be attacking grade inflation so that less students have 4.0 averages. A few B grades would help students come to terms with their human limitations before graduate or professional school.

  • In support of mental health services
  • Posted by Hank Christiansen , Senior Vice President at The Wellness Corporation on January 29, 2009 at 10:20am EST
  • The findings in Tolls of Med School/Adademic Medicine is important and supports our work with students in similar settings. We find not only high rates of depression, but also see increased incidents of domestic violence and a great need for resources that support work/life balance. These students are under considerable stress, days are long, demands are high and the stakes are enormous. Add this to a history of depression, a family history of depression, uncertainty, the competitive nature of medical school, a need for a "life outside the academic program," including relationships, a marriage and maybe children, an ailing parent, etc., and it's not surprising that high rates of depression occur. It is also possible to have mental health services that help and can be accessed without fear of the consequences of having a "mental health record."

    Thanks for the information contained in this article, it likely will help students who are silently struggling.
    Hank Christiansen, LICSW

  • med students exposed to abusive treatment
  • Posted by Rebecca , Social subjugation on January 29, 2009 at 11:50am EST
  • I don't think researchers take into account the fact that med students and residents are often the lowest on the social strata in the health care field. Grown adults are supposed adopt a false professional "adolescence" wherein the student must fawn over attending physicians, act as though they can take any punishment and participate in the hazing policies regarding lack of sleep and regular yelling sessions surrounding lack of performance. When any person resides at the bottom of the social structure, he or she may be subject to depression especially those in the minority groups. Take a look at attending physician behavior, and take a look at the medical system, the only professional system in our country with more un-checked power than the federal government and you will see why the future of medicine is depressed.

  • Important study, but blaming the victims?
  • Posted by Gillian Friedman, MD , Supervising Psychiatrist at San Bernardino ACT, MAPS, and FACT programs on January 31, 2009 at 6:55am EST
  • I think this is a very important study. Highlighting the prevalence of depressive symptoms and suicidal ideation in medical students, as well as the times and groups at highest risk, can lead to invaluable intervention strategies. But chalking the problem up primarily to sleep deprivation, the stress of caring for others or meeting families' expectations, and reluctance to report depression, I think misses the boat...I agree with Rebecca, the respondent who talked about the bottom of the social totem pole where medical students reside, and the often toxic nature of the medical school environment. As I psychiatrist, I would argue that the "culture" problem needing to be addressed first is the claw-your-way-to-the-top, work-until-you-physically-have-no reserves, teach-by-public-humiliation, learn-to-deprive-yourself-above-all-else, psychologically unsupportive climate of medical school. Of course there has been some slow progress (with backlash by a contingency who think these concerns are whiny, liberal fluff), and many of us love the profession so much that we would have walked through fire to get to do it, but even those of us who got through relatively unscathed have a certain amount of PTSD and a lot of war stories...for example, I vividly remember my third year of medical school, when the chief surgical resident chastised the other residents because he found out one of them was absent from her duties while she was hospitalized with a severe kidney infection -- he bellowed, "Well, she darn well better be hospitalized if she's not here doing rounds!" It was very clear even to the students that we were simply not allowed to be sick...even though of course we did get sick, because we didn't get to sleep at all every 3rd night, and worked 12-14 hour days the rest of the time. (It's not that you can't have mental illness, per se -- you can't have ANY illness, because you're not allowed any leeway to take care of yourself.)

    In such environments, to ignore the context of the depression and put the onus entirely on the medical students for "not reporting" their mental health symptoms seems like blaming the victims. The culture problem is much more serious than one of perpetuating the stigma of mental illness. Two extremely dangerous cultural phenomena are widespread in medical school. One is an almost universal perpetuation of the myth that one can provide competent, attentive, and compassionate care (i.e. care that you would want your own family members to receive) under conditions requiring extreme self-neglect and self-deprivation -- in fact, the myth is (to the contrary of reality) that the more you neglect yourself, the better and more dedicated a doctor you are; there is simply no counterbalancing culture valuing the balance and sustainability that maintains mental health. Due to recognition of this problem (largely by people outside the medical community), there has been legislation in some states to improve conditions for medical students and residents, such as measures to have limited hours or imposed a standard of one day off a week for residents (not always followed). But as difficult as it is to believe that programs run by doctors -- who ostensibly have all had at least some mental health training -- would not recognize the mental health dangers of having their trainees work every day for weeks on end, these improvements were bitterly contested, with much hyperbole from many about how they would irreparably damage the training experience.

    The second cultural problem is a tolerance, particularly in clinical years of medical school, for physician-teachers who use methods that are ineffective, shaming, or sometimes even personally or publicly humiliating. While I do not believe any medical schools actively encourage these methods, and most have some resources available for faculty to improve as clinician-teachers, I have not personally seen programs actually require this training for attending faculty, nor have I seen programs provide appreciable teaching training to residents (who are providing most of the hours of education for medical students after the second medical school year, and are sometimes acting out whatever bad habits/abuses they themselves may have experienced or observed). While most medical schools (including my own) are fortunate to have some phenomenal teaching faculty, that is somewhat a matter of luck; medical school faculty are generally not retained primarily because of teaching skill -- they are retained either because of research grants or clinical income/prestige they bring to the hospital. This makes it very difficult (and politically delicate) to police attending physicians who are excellent clinicians or researchers but lousy teachers.

    Even if nothing else changes, interventions can be implemented to increase support (for example, how about regular access to psychological support groups facilitated by counseling center staff in coordination with volunteer upperclassmen? or a service for brief counseling that is on the medical school campus, is accessible rapidly and without red tape, and is focused exclusively on the needs of medical students/residents and other graduate level health professional students?). In other professions, when individuals slowly acquire competency over a period of years, they generally receive the most support at the beginning, when their competency is the lowest, with support gradually tapering as their skills grow. Unfortunately, in medicine it is often the opposite. You get the least support at the time when you feel the least competent, and you look at the long stretch of years still left in front of you and wonder how you'll ever make it.

    So yes, I believe that there is a stigma about depression and other mental health conditions in medical school, but that is the tip of the iceberg. To use the public health model of primary prevention, secondary prevention, and tertiary prevention, getting medical students to report their symptoms are helping them get treatment so they don't get worse is intervening at the secondary and tertiary stage. Helping make medical school more effective, more supportive, a better learning experience, and more humane, so that it produces medical students and residents with fewer depressive symptoms to begin with -- and fewer learned bad habits -- would be primary prevention. To use the old metaphor, we need to stop people from being thrown into the stream in the first place, not just fish them out.

  • Depression
  • Posted by Dave S , Lecturer / Internal Medicine on March 31, 2009 at 11:45am EDT
  • Comparing and contrasting my experiences in both grad school and medical school; medical students and residents may have suicidal ideation but grad students may have homicidal ideation. The Chief Surgery resident screaming at me in the hallway had nothing on the daily degrading treatment of my PI in grad school. In three years in grad school I received two compliments, but was told daily that I was "intellectually lazy" and stupid. Two of my friends in grad school had psychotic breaks. On of these events involved a handgun -- nobody was hurt. But talking with older faculty, this wasn't exactly new or unheard of.

    The first day of medical school my class was told that we were all smart and we would all be called doctor in 4 years. We were also told of the comparatively comprehensive mental health services available to us on a confidential basis through student health. I do not want to minimize any individual's mental suffering, but medical school was comparatively a very supportive atmosphere. The mental stressors of residency were different. There was no yelling -- I am an internist, not a surgeon -- but the sudden increase in responsibility and the groundhog day-like quality of the experience did take its toll. The conclusion of this study does seem to be a bit of a no brainer. Next we will find out that soldiers in Iraq have PTSD and that resident physicians are sometimes jerks after they have been on the job for 30 hours straight. We are taking young, smart, for the most part privileged, people who are used to being the best and then putting them in a situation where everybody else is at least as smart and capable and then making them face their own inadequacies. This is upsetting, it is also part of growing up.

  • Things to remember in med school
  • Posted by John , Editor on November 20, 2009 at 9:45am EST
  • None of this is too surprising. We've lost our way in terms of seeing medicine as a vocation.

    I found this reflection very helpful in getting us on track to finding meaning in medicine again:

    Letter to a Future Doctor

    http://hopeandhealing.org/contentPage.aspx?resource_id=355