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February 5, 2009

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For several years now, the University of California has been debating plans to drop the SAT Subject Tests (formerly called the SAT II or achievement tests) and to find ways to consider more minority applicants. The debate has focused on the relative merits (or lack thereof) of the SAT and how to promote diversity while not violating the state's ban on affirmative action.

In the past few days, however, a new issue has started to attract attention: concerns that the admissions policy changes that are expected to be approved by the Board of Regents today could lead to a significant drop in the numbers of Asian-American applicants who are admitted -- with the major gains going to white applicants.

According to data prepared by the university and just starting to receive attention, 36 percent of those admitted to the university system in 2007-8 were Asian Americans. Applying the new admissions standards, that percentage would drop to 29-32 percent. In contrast, white applicants made up 34 percent of those admitted in 2007-8. Under the proposed reforms, they would have made up 41 to 44 percent of the entering class. The bottom line is that Asian Americans would shift from being the largest group gaining admission to the University of California to the second.

Some Asian American groups are calling on the Board of Regents to hold off on any vote today, raising questions about the fairness and wisdom of the changes being considered. (A board subcommittee approved the plan Wednesday, unanimously.)

"All of us share the goal of trying to preserve excellence as well as to promote diversity. But the gains for Latinos and African Americans in these projections are very small, while the decreases for Asian Americans and the gains for whites are quite large," said Vincent Pan, executive director of Chinese for Affirmative Action, a national group based in California. "There's almost a swapping out of Asian students for white students. Let's not rush this thing."

But university leaders are playing down the demographic projections and defending the admissions plan, which emerged from the Academic Senate, a system-wide faculty group. Mark G. Yudof, president of the university, said in a statement of the proposal: "It also sends a clear message to California high school students that if they work hard, take challenging courses and do well, they will get to make their case for admission to UC." The university system has been praised by faculty and student groups for the planned shift.

Admission to the University of California is enormously competitive, and families in the state long to be able to send children to its prestigious campuses, where they can be educated at top research universities at a fraction of what they would pay for a private institution. In California, race and admissions have been tangled and divisive for years. The success of Asian American students in winning admission to UC campuses has meant that those institutions are in many ways more diverse than much of American higher education. But the state's ban on affirmative action in public university admissions has depressed the admission of black and Latino students.

The proposal before the Board of Regents today would do the following:

  • End the requirement that applicants submit two SAT Subject Test scores.
  • Narrow from the top 12.5 to the top 9 percent of high school graduates the percentage who will be guaranteed admission to the university system (although not necessarily to the campus of their choice).
  • Expand the definition of applicants eligible for a full admission review to include all who complete 11 of 15 required high school courses by the end of their junior year, and achieve a grade-point average of at least 3.0

The last shift is expected to greatly expand the pool of those entitled to a full admissions review, where personal qualities and other factors may help some win admission. Indeed those deemed eligible for a full review would go up in all racial and ethnic groups. But the gains in eligibility are not necessarily going to translate into gains in admissions for all groups -- or into gains that reflect the gains in those eligible for a full review.

Projected Impact of Admissions Changes on Different Racial and Ethnic Groups

Group Projected Increase in Eligibility for Review % of 2007-8 Admits Under Current Policy Estimates of Percentage of 2007-8 Class Admitted Under New Rules
Black +117% 4% 4-5%
Latino +86% 19% 19-22%
Asian +26% 36% 29-32%
White +77% 34% 41-44%

(Note: Numbers do not add to 100 because of "other" and students whose ethnicity is not known.)

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There are various theories about why the numbers could change in these ways. The thinking behind dropping the SAT Subject Tests, according to the faculty panels that came up with the idea, is that they provide little information that helps admissions officers, but many black and Latino students appear less likely to take the exams, and have therefore been losing a shot at admission.

While some testing critics have welcomed the skepticism about the SAT Subject Tests, other educators have questioned whether the university is poised to drop the right test. A report out of the Center for Studies in Higher Education (part of the university's Berkeley campus) last year found that the subject tests were better at predicting academic success and more equitable in treatment of minority students than the main SAT, which the university is keeping.

Pan, of Chinese for Affirmative Action, cited another possible explanation for why the changes could exclude Asian Americans. They, on average, do very well on the SAT Subject Tests. Defenders of those tests say that, compared to the primary SAT, the subject examinations more closely relate to the high school curriculum. "We think they are much better tests than the aptitude tests, and they provide an incentive for schools to focus on course performance," Pan said.

He added that he believed students would do well on the subject tests only if they took rigorous courses in high school, and worked hard. "This leaves behind the SAT, which many companies use to make money on test prep," he said. "It's the wrong direction for UC."

A spokesman for the university system said that at a meeting today, President Yudof stressed that the estimates about impact on enrollment were just rough estimates, and shouldn't be seen as definitive. The university is much more confident about the figures about those who will be eligible for admission than those who would be admitted, the spokesman said.

Mary Croughan, an epidemiologist at the university's San Francisco campus and chair of the systemwide Academic Senate, said that the apparent disadvantage for Asian Americans is actually a result of their success. Such a large share of Asian American high school students already are eligible to be considered and win admission that their numbers couldn't go up as much as those of other groups, she said.

"There is absolutely no desire to cut their numbers," she said. "What we want is a University of California more accessible to all students."

Asked about the charges of Asian groups that their students were following the rules, taking the right courses, demonstrating their course mastery and were now losing admissions slots, Croughan said that "parents know how to read the rules for admission and they do what they need to do." She predicted that Asian Americans would continue to do well. She also said it is hard to predict exactly what will happen under the new system because the new rules could change student behavior in high school.

Pan said that the real problem is that faculty at the university would like to restore affirmative action, but can't say that. Repealing Proposition 209, which barred the consideration of race in admissions, makes a lot of sense, Pan said. "But that's very difficult, and to some, unachievable. Because they can't politically say they want that, they are trying to accomplish something with this plan."

Croughan strongly disputed that. "This is not a work-around on 209 by any stretch of the imagination," she said. While adding that "there are significant reasons to repeal 209," this is a different issue.

Jon Reider, director of college counseling at San Francisco University High School, a private institution known for having a top-notch student body, said that when University of California officials presented information about the planned changes at meetings of high school guidance counselors, they focused on how these changes would expand opportunities for disadvantaged students, and did not discuss a possible impact on Asian enrollments.

He said that any Asian students at his high school who lose a spot because of these changes would end up doing well elsewhere, as these students would learn about other good options. He said, however, that he worried that plenty of Asian students at other high schools wouldn't have access to that kind of information.

Reider also noted that Asian American leaders have "a history of being suspicious of UC admissions," because of a sense of many that Asian applicants are held to a higher standard. Reider doesn't think anti-Asian feeling is at play in these changes. "The intention is to broaden black and Latino eligibility," he said. As for the white increases and Asian decreases, he added, "that is what in the military they call collateral damage."

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Comments on Unintentional Whitening of U. of California?

  • Posted by Parent on February 5, 2009 at 7:50am EST
  • Collateral damage? Collateral damage?! So this is how educators dismiss the effects on the lives of children who have played by the rules, succeeded and are now having the rug pulled out from under them? These students are merely "collateral damage?" How do such educators live with themselves everyday? Shame on them.

  • Posted by bystander on February 5, 2009 at 7:55am EST
  • If the wrong minority students figure out how to win at the system, then change the system, it that how it works? California's history as regards its Asian citizens is shameful.

  • Posted by Now you get it? on February 5, 2009 at 8:55am EST
  • What are people complaining about, this is all perfectly legal under Grutter v. Bollinger.

  • Do What Is Educationally Correct
  • Posted by John K. Wilson at collegefreedom.org on February 5, 2009 at 9:00am EST
  • I think this decision is a good one, although the University of California has a long and disturbing record of trying to favor whites over Asians due to white political influence in the state.

    But ultimately, we need to decide whether this is educationally correct. The SAT subject tests favor students who are well-educated in a couple of fields rather than those with a broad education. If cutting these tests can help expand the pool of candidates, and save students $38 in testing fees (and much more buying study aids and classes), then it will be a great benefit to students. The fact that one ethnic group or another may be harmed or helped should be the deciding consideration. Educational reasons should prevail.

  • Changing the Rules
  • Posted by Kevin Leonard , Sr. Program Coordinator at Michigan State University on February 5, 2009 at 9:00am EST
  • When things aren't going your way, change the rules. This has been the mode of operation from the beginning of time for the dominate group here in the United States.

    We do not have to go back to much further then the implementation of the first standardized tests. These tests (regardless of what some people fantasize they were developed for) were originally designed to keep a growing population that were deemed undesirables (i.e. immigrants of Jewish, Hungarian, Italian and Russian descent and later African Americans-groups that tended to have high poverty levels and poor educational access) from gaining admission to intuitions of higher education.

    Here are some sources that can give you food for thought if you think standardized tests are all they are cracked up to be.

    http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/06/17/editorial_charles.html
    http://www.alfiekohn.org/teaching/edweek/staiv.htm

    So in short, you have a group of individuals who have learned to play the game as good if not better then you. So what do you do? Change how the game is played to put the favor in your court. Hypocrisy is live and well in our country!

  • Posted by Jonathan on February 5, 2009 at 9:25am EST
  • There are multiple ironies. UC was one of the first institutions outside of the Northeast to begin using the SAT. The story of how that happened in Lehman's the Big Test reveals the institution's self-interested and functionalist use of standardized testing for the wrong reasons. Another irony is to reject the tests that minimize achievement in preference for ones that, with admitted problems, ostensibly test aptitude, or what in my more cynical moments could be referred to as the luck of being born in the right family with the appropriate number of books in the home and the curiosity to read them.

  • Posted by BenjaminL on February 5, 2009 at 10:15am EST
  • For a moment there, I drifted off into a sweet, blissful reverie...

    I imagined that admissions debates were devoted to the question of achieving the most successful and academically qualified class of students, not to a sordid, Ottoman-Empire or big-city-Democratic-machine-style ethnic spoils system.

    What a wonderful world that would be. It is astounding that such a state of affairs seems such a remote possibility.

  • UC has considered dropping the general SAT
  • Posted by Jen Gaboury on February 5, 2009 at 11:25am EST
  • We should go back to the conversation that was happening within UC in recent years about dropping the SAT entirely and talk about the ramifications, and benefits, for diversity in that plan, rather than in the SAT II.

    See:
    http://chronicle.com/free/v47/i25/25a02101.htm

  • Posted by ed phd on February 5, 2009 at 11:25am EST
  • If you're gonna get rid of something, it should be the SAT I. As the article states, the SAT IIs are better indicators of actual educational achievement, so to John K. Wilson, perhaps you should take that into consideration when you're arguing for "educational reasons." Meanwhile, achievement on the SAT I is much more dependent on your upbringing--family background, access to tutoring/prep, etc. and less of an indicator of your actual academic abilities. Sure, there is more widespread access to taking the SAT I, but what's access if it doesn't actually get you anywhere? Why do you think that there is a huge increase in eligibility of review but a marginal increase in actual acceptance for Blacks and Latinos?

    At the same time, I do agree that the SAT IIs are not widely taken and can serve as a discriminatory barrier. So why not ban both and judge students based on the work they actually do in schools? Because of standardization. Because of convention. Because all the prestigious schools require it, and the UCs wouldn't want to miss out on that.

    There is no best way to measure student merit in college admission. However, if the numbers show a tiny accessibility increase for minority populations and a large one for whites while punishing another minority population, then more thoughtfulness and scrutiny is necessary here. We CANNOT allow the Model Minority Myth to prevail and allow whites to just have the attitude that Asian Americans will do well anyway so who cares about them... they're "collateral damage." ASIAN AMERICANS ARE NOT WHITE. No matter what the "achievement" indicates, Asian Americans are NOT the dominant culture. I am sick of this attitude that Asian Americans are doing well so they are not treated as a marginalized group.

  • Changing the rules
  • Posted by Bob on February 5, 2009 at 11:25am EST
  • Well, those in power devised and implemented a set of rules by which applicants for admission were to be evaluated. Hard working, motivated, and conscientious applicants were determined to play by the rules and they succeeded. Beaten at their own game, the powerful change the rules again, again, and again. Wait another ten years, and California will have to change the rules again.

    Bob

  • Achieving the "Desired Mix"
  • Posted by Linda P Taylor , Principal Advisor at College Funding Network on February 5, 2009 at 12:20pm EST
  • Amazing how many people still think that a student gets into college based purely on being the "best" compared to ALL applicants in academics and testing. Actions like this peel back the "Ivory Curtain" and let people know the reality of the Admissions process.
    As the daughter of a retired Dean of Instruction, I know that colleges want to achieve a "perfect" mixture of student TYPES on campus. These types include racial, sexual, geographic, sports, artistic, legacy, academic, departmental, major, government mandates, etc.
    Colleges are always trying to figure out how to get the maximum number of applicant TYPES so they can admit enough of each to achieve their mixture goals and STILL maintain academic rigor. Unfortunately, when there is only a small pool of applicant types -- in this case "other" minorities like black and Hispanic -- the odds increase that the cutoff GPA and test scores for this type are going to be lower than the pool with larger numbers!
    As this article shows, if a college or college system isn't getting the desired number of minorities or other applicant types to meet their goals, they change the standards or the process to get them! Thus, those who feel PURE merit should rule the admissions process will fight this proposal. People who want a higher minority mix with other "factors" replacing merit will welcome it.
    Even though it is politically incorrect to say it, anyone with a brain can see this is PURELY an attempt to get more minority students into the admissions process. This now raises the usual questions:

    * Is it fair to "dumb down" academic standards to increase minorities?

    * Is it fair to have high academic standards that defacto keep out most minorities?

    * Does it serve society for the college to admit a "less qualified" applicant who is more likely to drop out because of competition with academically more qualified students?

    * What is lost if a college doesn't admit the less "advantaged" applicant?

    * Is it fair the more qualified applicant is denied admissions because they are not the "right" race or sex?

    I do understand the position of the government-funded UCs. But the answer should NOT be to lower academic standards and "dumb down" higher education. Instead of lowering standards, we should IMPROVE the K-12 preparation. That's why I have changed my personal practice from college "funding" to college preparation! I think we need a HOLISTIC shift in how to qualify more students for college and NOT how to change the standards.

    Linda P. Taylor
    www.LindaPTaylor.com

  • ‘Unintentional Whitening of U. of California?’
  • Posted by Oak Land1000 , Associate Professor at University of Maryland on February 5, 2009 at 1:55pm EST
  • Unintentional?! Don't make me laugh! I wonder what they would do if the changes resulted in Whites dropping to 25% and Asians going to 40%. It would never happen. It doesn't take much of a memory to remember the complaints about how successful Asians were in gaining UC admission. They just got tired of seeing the sea of Asian students and are responding to the calls for bringing back what was the status quo for white students. Collateral damage -- it sounds, again, like the conservatives have accepted a damnable event as the price to be paid. What is even more odd about this is that the Blacks and Latinos that they ostensibly are trying to help, are hardly making any headway at all -- its just smoke and mirrors and attempt to respond to the complaint of an overabundance of Asian students under the guise of trying to remedy an imbalance that they won't resolve anyway. Hypocrites!

  • The Bell Curve can't be hidden
  • Posted by Pat Tillman on February 5, 2009 at 1:55pm EST
  • This is pure _Bell Curve_ stuff.
    Its about time the world came to terms
    with reality.

  • Posted by Cautious Optimism on February 5, 2009 at 1:55pm EST
  • What many seem to forget, or conveniently omit, is that this change did not take place overnight. I can assure you that this proposal has been years in the making; there were countless studies, regressions, drafts, and most importantly debates within and across the University's academic senate to tease out all possible scenarios and implications. That said, only time will truly tell what the real impact of the Regents' proposal will be...
    Still, I find it ironic and dishonest that certain factions come to the defense of "minority students" only when these major changes are proposed. The "dumbing down" argument, please. Why are you not up in arms that schools that serve historically underrepresented students continue to be overcrowded, underfunded, and in lack of critical and basic resources, such as qualified teachers and counselors? The UC may not be perfect, but I say "bravo" for recognizing that not all schools and educational opportunities are created equal, and that there is more than one static definition of "merit."

  • poor performance by UC students
  • Posted by Bob on February 5, 2009 at 2:25pm EST
  • I am a senior professor who is dedicating large amounts of time to teaching large intro science lecture class at a University of California. We have to make the material pretty basic to avoid failure of the majority of students. The multiple choice exams in this class could be easily passed by any reasonably educated and motivated student who attended class and studied a few hours per week. However, a majority of the students earn C- and lower. Most of the students performing poorly on the mid-terms do not even make an effort to come to my office hours or complete the homework. My assessment is that the majority of entering UC students is made up of a group that is fundamentally disinterested in school, another group that is woefully unprepared, and a third group that is both disinterested and unprepared.

  • Posted by Math Prof on February 5, 2009 at 2:25pm EST
  • When making a decision use all the available information. Let the chips fall where they may.

    If mom & dad didn't read to you, you will be at a disadvantage. If you did not pay attaintion in school, you will be at disadvantage. If you ate a lot a paint chips, you will be at a disadvantage. Actions have consequences. Don't like them? Then read to your kids, vacumm your house, and get involved with your kids schools.

  • It's about Prop 13, people
  • Posted by Kirsten , Professor of Literature at UC Santa Cruz on February 5, 2009 at 2:25pm EST
  • As a UC faculty member who has followed this proposal for years now, I can affirm that its intent is not to exclude Asian-Am students or otherwise engage in 'racial engineering.' Rather, this is about social class, and the terrible legacy of Proposition 13, which dismantled one of the finest state K-12 systems in the country and replaced it with a system of enormous disparities from one school district to another. Look at the districts from which most of the currently eligible UC students are currently drawn, lay an average-income map over it, and you'll see this pattern. Students from the most underfunded high schools don't have anywhere close to the same access to the features that characterized "good" school districts. Yet there are very bright students in those schools who have the chance to catch up here, especially with the help of our Summer Bridge and other programs for them. Please do the research on the larger context of our public school system--now 47th in the nation in overall performance--before jumping to conclusions.

  • Dropping the SAT subject tests at the UC
  • Posted by bj on February 5, 2009 at 5:55pm EST
  • This plan is poorly considered. Rampant grade inflation at many of the upscale public and independent schools in California and SAT test prep opportunities will be rewarded while students who actually developed knowledge, better represented throught he subject tests, will possbily get lost in this shuffle. The new approrach will plainly reward students with more financial resources and the further opportunity to game it all through the new score choice option will potentially boost the already advantaged even more.

    Does the UC admissions group ever consider the reality of a big picture? And look at what this potentially does to Asian American students!

    Terrible public policy.

  • Thank you, "Math Prof"
  • Posted by Chuck on February 5, 2009 at 5:55pm EST
  • One of the key reminders from Obama's fine inaugural address was all about personal responsibility.

    The vacuous and sophist defense of racial or gender double standards for admission to U.C. is an idea whose time is long passed. Give it up already!

    Thanks to "Math Prof" for stating it carefully and accurately. Charity begins at home, folks. Start there - turn off the TV, monitor your kids' homework, pay attention to their friends, and get involved in their academic work.

  • Whitening?
  • Posted by Ben S. on February 5, 2009 at 7:05pm EST
  • The use of the term "whitening" in the title of this article is blatantly offensive. Had the numbers been different, would you have use "blackening", "yellowing", or "browning"? I doubt it.

  • Posted by Rich on February 5, 2009 at 9:35pm EST
  • The percentage of Asians in California is 12.2% (per the US Census estimates of 2006). Relative to the population as a whole Asians are exceptionally successful at getting into the University of California (at the expense of all other groups -- not just whites). Given the lag time, high school students interested in applying to UC will change their strategies, so projecting admissions under 2012 standards based on the current applicant pool does not draw an accurate picture of what the future will bring.

  • what? intention to increase minority group
  • Posted by equa , what? intention to increase minority group on February 7, 2009 at 9:50am EST
  • “There is absolutely no desire to cut their numbers,” she said. “What we want is a University of California more accessible to all students.”
    haha the intention of this policy is to broaden Latino & Black eligibility. ya they increase by like 1% very nice.. but i wonder why the heck the percentage of white increase by 10%... i have no clue. This is redundantly mentioned that this policy is for Latino & black but what I can see it for WHITE. not being racist but there should be equality. What a great country! discriminating against Asians who are working hard as hell.

  • For everyone that qualifies
  • Posted by Emeritus , Professor Emeritus at UCLA on February 7, 2009 at 9:50am EST
  • The U.C. system is a distinguied public university--it must be mindful of its responsibility to serve creators and supporters -- tax payers of the past and future; and serve its tradition of excellence. Since we do not live in a color- and class-blind society (as perhaps we should) the University is called upon to examine whether it is serving the population equitably. Clearly, when one group is striking over-served or under-served, this must be addressed.
    The problem comes in assessing who is qualified: who will learn if provided the opportunity; who will graduate if they begin; and who will benefit themselves and the broader community best if educated? We don't actually have much to guide us in assessing these qualities, and so when the student population is clearly out of balance, it is the Universities responsibility to make adjustments.
    As to Asian-heritage students, theirs is a tremendous success story. I wouldn't be surprised if they saw the new rules and pursued the new requirements such as to largely maintain their numbers.

  • Probably missing something but...
  • Posted by Patrick Mattimore , Teacher on February 8, 2009 at 11:20am EST
  • UC is cutting admissions by 10,000. I'm not sure how making more applicants "eligible for review" will change UC's complexion much. These newly reviewed apps will be from the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, UC Merced and UC Riverside may be forced to take a lower quality student (probably few of whom will choose to attend anyway) but does anyone seriously think Berkeley or UCLA will be taking these lower caliber students.

  • Posted by Shawn Augsburger on February 12, 2009 at 10:05pm EST
  • I have to agree with some of the other critics of the University of California in that this move really is all about trying to circumvent Prop 209. The University has had subject test requirements for decades and until recently nobody claimed that the requirement was a hindrance to getting a high quality undergraduate student body.

    If SAT II test requirement were a major issue you would think that one could easily find criticism about the requirement pre-Prop 209, but I have searched various scholarly journal databases and didn't turn up much to indicate that this idea has serious consideration until recently. Despite having said requirement for decades the university has managed to achieve a MORE diverse undergraduate student body than many colleges and universities that don't require the SAT II. If this exam is such an impediment to diversity how does one explain that the University of California not only has above average diversity, but has amongst the most diverse campuses in the country regardless of selectivity? It would appear that UC has either found a pretty good system that counteracts any negative effects and then some or this requirement isn’t much of any diversity impediment.

    As for Kirsten, the Professor of Literature at UC Santa Cruz, who claimed that this is all about Proposition 13 I must say that I am glad that you teach literature as opposed to say political science because this is largely a canard. Prop 13 didn't create an unequal school system. CA like most states has had an inequitable K-12 funding mechanism for a long time and Prop 13 didn't create that. Furthermore, some of the highest per pupil school districts aren't any of your "good" schools. In fact a lot of the preppy school districts that send a lot of students not just the University of California, but to four-year colleges in general often have below average per pupil funding (eg. Irvine, Tustin, etc.). The relationship between per pupil funding and student achievement isn't nearly as strong as you imply.

    The reality is that the those advocating such social engineering whether overtly or covertly don’t realize is that the main goal of the University isn’t to have a diverse student body! The goal is to produce individuals who improve the knowledge of California’s citizenry and hence create a more vibrant and successful economy. While I don’t question the value in the University attempting to find quality candidates from all backgrounds I don’t see why the University should lose even a small amount of useful data for making admissions decisions. If the data improves the quality of the student body than state taxpayers are likely to get a better return upon their investment in supporting the University, which is a good thing. I am supportive on improvements in diversity, provided that we aren’t sacrificing quality in order to achieve more diversity.

    The bottom line is that I see this proposal as having little to do with improving the quality of the student body at the University, but it is rather an attempt to play with the system in order to achieve a social engineering goal without explicitly violating the state ban on racial preferences (ie. Prop 209). I seriously don't think that this is going to have a huge impact though because a lot of the Asian parents that were good at gaming the system for their older children that are already in college will likely be far more adept at getting their children into University of California even after this change. Since the University is cutting acceptances unless some of these students that didn’t take the Sat II had both a good GPA and a high SAT I score (not highly likely) they probably aren't going to be highly competitive applicants even under the new admissions system. I would be willing to go so far as to bet that when the overall diversity doesn’t change much we will be hearing about yet another change to admissions 3-4 years after this change goes into effect.

    As a alumni of the University of California I bemoan this rather shameless move that doesn’t seem to be motivated by improving educational quality.

  • Research Please
  • Posted by Left for the Private Sector , Post Secondary Education on February 26, 2009 at 9:30pm EST
  • I have become increasingly frustrated with the term "underfunded" when describing those schools and districts that are designated as underperforming or are located in low SES areas.

    I would challenge you to research the millions of dollars that is funded to these districts and school sites. Unfortunately, the monies designated to "level the playing field" very rarely is used appropriately and oftentimes unethically.

    As I taught in a Title One school for years, I could not get quality lined paper for my students, (unless I purchased it). Nor could I get supplies that were conducive to true academic achievement for my students. I could get colored markers, crayons, large pads of white paper, glue, and supplies that served little long term use to the secondary student. The pencils purchased for student use were the sawdust kind that ground in the pencil sharpeners. Pens had been on the warehouse shelf for years or had been donated by a company seeking a tax write off. They were usually dry. Most of my students qualified for free/reduced lunch, so it wasn't a matter of not wanting to be prepared to learn. One year the cheap pencils gummed up eight even cheaper pencil sharpeners.

    The blatant abuse of school/district funds is at epidemic proportions. Just ask anyone who has ever served on a textbook adoption committee.

    Each year I purchased protractors, compasses, graph paper, and rulers for my students. My students had a classroom library stocked from my home shelves. In the years that I taught, only two books went "MIA".

    When teachers receive lay-off notices, with a euphamistic phrase of "reduction in force", yet administrative positions are created to serve the needs of friends and relatives of district favorites, something is horribly wrong.

    The state and federal government supplies the money, one would not think that an accounting watch dog is necessary in order to see that the funds are allocated for the intended recipients...the students...but perhaps a metaphorical watch dog off the chain is indeed necessary.

    While it is tempting to assign all responsibility for student underachievement to funding, it is prudent to look at some of the students as well. After a multi-million dollar grant provided for a newly stocked computer lab with a minimum of 50 working computers (new). Within days, the monitors had been tagged with initials and gang signs, the mouse balls taken, keyboards broken, and cable wire connections broken. After ten million dollars was spent for school improvements, doors were kicked in, glass doors broken and tagged, pinboard walls torn, and walls marred with marker pens. I simply cannot excuse this behavior to frustrations of poverty. Leaders have been coming up from poverty for generations.

    The answer to performance is not "more money", it is enacting a firm, caring, supportive learning environment with consequences, accountability, and reward for all members of the learning community.

    I don't want to get started on the lethargy displayed by parents who do not show up for conference, activities, open house, or back to school night...but manage to find a telephone or arrive on campus when the grade report arrives in the mail box advising them, (for often the third time), that his/her child is failing.

  • UC is quite self-important
  • Posted by Professor of Mathematics at MIT on March 8, 2009 at 2:30pm EDT
  • "...Italians are cognizant that Rome was once the center of the known universe.  The French still think France is..." goes a famous saying.

     

    The question is simply this: is the University of California more like Italy or like France?  More importantly, does anyone outside of California actually care?

     

    The University of California system hasn't been top-notch for undergraduate students in the lifetime of any of us actually posting.  It matters only in its own mind... and by virtue of the enormous number of students it purports to educate, in the minds of the marketers of standardized tests who asses "TAM" (Total Available Market) when they create products to sell.

     

    The reality is that most UC students really are not that good.  Almost none are Ivy League caliber.  Almost none could excel at any elite private college. And yet UC continues to try to find ways to dumb down its population

     

    Continue to debate this amongst yourselves.  No one else is listening.