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March 24, 2009

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For some in higher education, what happened at the University of Toledo earlier this month was a small victory in a simmering war. For others, it was an illustration of academe’s resistance to a future that is coming, ready or not.

Faced with the prospect of partnering with a private company to deliver online master's degrees in education, the faculty at Toledo rose up in protest and managed to kill the deal. But the story of Higher Ed Holdings -- an ambitious Texas-based company selling distance learning support to universities -- didn’t begin in Ohio, and it’s not likely to end there. Moreover, a growing debate about how universities will be forced to change in the coming decades -- and the extent to which the private sector will play a role -- is a subject that’s not going to die with the Toledo deal.

At Arkansas State University, where a recent partnership with Higher Ed Holdings is getting decidedly mixed reviews, fissures are quickly forming. Just last week, a faculty member resigned from an academic committee in protest, proclaiming: “I simply refuse to be part of this HEH scam.” The professor’s e-mail is emblematic of the passion with which some faculty are resisting the company, even as others characterize its approach as “the wave of the future.”

Higher Ed Holdings landed its first contract in 2007 with Lamar University, an institution in Beaumont, Tex., that had suffered severe damage and enrollment declines after Hurricane Rita slammed the Gulf Coast two years earlier. It was in this context that an old friend came knocking. Randy Best, a Texas entrepreneur who has become something of a legend at his alma mater, laid out an ambitious plan. Best promised to deliver dramatic enrollment increases for Lamar at virtually no up-front cost to the institution, using a new online delivery system and advanced marketing techniques few universities can afford to employ.

Lamar already had the beginnings of a distance learning presence, but Best was offering the equivalent of “high definition TV compared to Power Point slides,” recalls Steve Doblin, provost at Lamar. The enrollment growth would be supported by Higher Ed Holdings' own “academic coaches,” a group of employees hired by the company to handle most of the grading and daily online interaction with students. The coaches have a minimum of a master’s degree, and universities can dismiss them if they don't approve of their performance or qualifications, according to the company.

Lamar “did not rush into this,” and university officials were clear and firm about their expectations, Doblin said.

“We said we want to do this, but here’s the deal: You’re in charge of production, marketing and recruitment; but they have to be our courses, our faculty, our admissions requirements, period,” Doblin recalls.

The hard-line stance Doblin describes has become a familiar refrain for university leaders explaining -- and often defending -- a partnership with Higher Ed Holdings. Administrators are all very clear about what they demand upon entering these contracts; whether that’s what they actually get, however, is a matter of increasing debate.

Despite the setback in Toledo, Higher Ed Holdings is a growing enterprise. In 2008, the company teamed up with three more universities. The company is supporting master's degrees in education at Arkansas State University; education and nursing degrees at the University of Texas at Arlington; and a nursing degree at Ohio University.

Arkansas Faculty Bypassed

If the fight over Higher Ed Holdings at Toledo was an all out brawl, the debate at Arkansas State University has been more of a boxing match -- but gloves are still optional. The concerns Toledo faculty expressed are shared by many at Arkansas State, where professors fear they’re being forced to develop cookie-cutter courses that can be used by thousands of students at a time.

Higher Ed Holdings officials maintain that faculty control of courses is never compromised, even though the “academic coaches” hired by the company typically have more interaction with students.

“The professor always remains in complete control of the content of his course,” Deborah Nugent, the company’s corporate secretary, wrote in an e-mail. “HEH is not a content provider; rather HEH is a distribution and student support system."

While the company insists universities retain complete control of their programs, contracts between Higher Ed Holdings and two universities -- Arkansas State and Ohio -- both state that "once adopted" the universities "shall not amend the curriculum except with the consent" of the company.

There's also an indication that, at least in the early going, Higher Ed Holdings officials took a more active role in developing courses than some say they would have preferred. John Beineke, dean of the College of Education at Arkansas, said in a letter to the Faculty Senate that the rush to move forward with the courses prompted company officials to go "beyond the call of duty."

"Due to an ambitious time schedule for implementation set by the university, not the department, these professors were under extraordinary time pressure to have their courses ready," Beineke wrote. "To help relieve this pressure as much as possible, HEH facilitators provided assistance beyond their 'call of duty' and in some cases helped to compose some documents. In each and every case, the professors reviewed and approved these documents."

If faculty had objections about Higher Ed Holdings at Arkansas State, they weren’t given much of an opportunity to express them. The ink was dry on the contract with the company before most faculty even caught wind of a deal in the works. On April 14, 2008, a “delegation” of administrators from Arkansas went to visit Lamar University to discuss the institution’s experience with Higher Ed Holdings. Four days later, the contract was signed.

Dan Howard, vice chancellor for academic affairs and research at Arkansas State, described the university’s review process -- including a separate meeting with Higher Ed Holdings in Dallas -- as thorough.

“We’re not a bunch of lemmings that go off the cliff,” Howard said. “We look very carefully at what we’re doing, and I think this is precisely the case of what happened here.”

But the “we” that did all of this analysis of Higher Ed Holdings did not include a single faculty member without administrative duties. The Arkansas State System president, a trustee, dean, department chair and Howard were all included in the meetings, but the faculty who would be asked to teach their classes in this new format were left out completely before the contract was signed.

Arkansas State officials do not dispute that faculty without administrative duties were not involved in the initial meetings with Lamar and Higher Ed Holdings, but the university's general counsel noted that "contracts for goods and services entered into by Arkansas State University do not typically involve faculty."

"While initial review of the HEH model included persons with administrative duties, faculty members were involved before the delivery method was put in place by ASU," Lucinda McDaniel, the university's general counsel, wrote in an e-mail Monday.

When faculty finally learned of the contract, someobjected, but to no avail. Tom Fiala, then-chair of the curriculum committee in Arkansas State's College of Education, fired off a highly critical letter in early May, objecting to the entire concept underlying the Higher Ed Holdings deal.

“If the METP program thrives as predicted, it will … likely lead to diminished numbers in other master’s programs in spite of the fact that the real Academic Coaches in these advanced programs are true university level professors who must meet the research and teaching standards of the academy,” Fiala wrote. “A partnership with HEH will drastically alter ASU’s graduate programs in general as predatory marketing tactics are employed to lure students, not only from other institutions of higher learning, but from other programs within the university.”

With objections being raised about the deal, and criticism of the lack of faculty involvement growing, the university continued to bypass established principles of shared governance by not obtaining the approval of the university's Graduate Council, according to several professors interviewed for this story. Some administrators now dispute that the General Council's approval was necessary, because the university was merely adopting a new "delivery format" -- not creating a new program. But Beineke, dean of the College of Education, admitted that the necessary approval process had not taken place in his letter to the Faculty Senate Oct. 17, 2008.

“While the dean and chair had every expectation and intention that the various curricular steps would be met before the offering of the first course this did not happen,” he wrote.

Beineke refused multiple interview requests. Mitch Holifield, chair of the Department of Educational Leadership, Curriculum & Special Education, also did not respond to inquiries from a reporter. Higher Ed Holdings would respond to questions only via e-mail, until Friday, when a media consultant -- retained over the course of the reporting of this story -- fielded queries.

It wasn’t until March 12, nearly a year after the contract was signed, that Arkansas State faculty members in the department working with Higher Ed Holdings formally voted on offering any programs. In a 10-6 vote, the faculty approved an expansion of the partnership, offering two more master's degrees through Higher Ed Holdings.

“The vote established firmly that the faculty have been, overall -- not every faculty member on the planet, obviously -- but overall, the faculty members in that department were favorably disposed of the quality of the model that has been used in the masters degree in educational theory and practice,” Howard said.

While there was no formal vote before March 12, "the department unanimously decided" to move forward with an initial degree as an experiment prior to that vote, according to McDaniel, the university's general council. Faculty interviewed for this story do not dispute such an initial agreement, but some argue that they only agreed on the condition that a cohort of students would be required to complete the first degree prior to any additional offerings. By delaying expansion, faculty hoped to be able to quantitatively assess the program's effectiveness, but the vote to expand came before any such data was available, according to several faculty who opposed the expansion.

For those who participate in the program, there are financial rewards. Arkansas State officials could not confirm the figures with certainty Monday, but said their recollection is that professors are paid $3,500 for developing courses and an additional $3,500 for teaching courses on top of their normal loads. The associate dean and department chair receive $1,000 per course developed, officials said.

While the vote expanded the Academic Partnerships program at Arkansas State, critics question the vote's appropriateness. Several faculty members who opposed the decision said untenured faculty felt compelled to side with administrators -- although some tenured faculty supported the measure. Perhaps more importantly, some questioned whether a different vote would have changed anything.

Before the vote even took place, administrators had taken steps that indicated the expansion was moving forward. Months before faculty voted on partnering with Higher Ed Holdings to deliver master’s degrees in Educational Leadership and Curriculum and Instruction, both programs were listed as “pending approval” in the university’s graduate bulletin. Several faculty members say listing unapproved programs in the bulletin is without precedent at Arkansas State.

In addition to placing the programs in the bulletin, the university also sought permission to advertise them in the State of Tennessee before gaining faculty approval. A committee of the Tennessee Higher Education Commission approved a measure January 29 that authorized Arkansas State to offer the programs to Tennessee residents, minutes of the committee's meeting indicate. The commission’s approval came about 1 ½ months before faculty were ever asked to vote.

Asked about the appearance that the partnership was a “done deal” prior to any faculty vote, university officials wrote an e-mail to Inside Higher Ed saying that “faculty did not need to vote to approve those programs; they were already approved.” The vote, officials said, was merely to determine whether to deliver existing programs through the Higher Ed Holdings model.

That interpretation of the facts, however, is in dispute for a variety of reasons. While all of the master’s degrees did indeed exist in traditional formats, the graduate bulletin separately identifies three “online Academic Partnership” degrees as “pending approval” -- suggesting approval was necessary. As for getting approval from Tennessee before the faculty vote, Howard said in an e-mail that the contact “was made in anticipation of offering our programs in Tennessee using the delivery method provided through HEH.”

William Rowe, a professor of art, said the faculty's vote was a last straw for him. Rowe, who argues that each of the three programs required approval from the Graduate Council, resigned from the council immediately after he learned of the March 12 vote.

“I simply refuse to be part of this HEH scam,” wrote Rowe, who is president of the university’s chapter of the American Association of University Professors, as well as vice president of the state chapter. “ASU-[Jonesboro] has decided on quantity over quality and I will not participate in this ‘pending’ fiasco.”

Howard disputed that any Graduate Council approval was required, because the deal with Higher Ed Holdings only changes the "delivery format."

“The Graduate Council approves all new graduate academic courses/programs and substantive changes to these courses/programs. It does not approve the delivery format for academic courses and programs,” Howard wrote in an e-mail. “The decision to offer approved courses through distance learning does not require shared governance review.”

Again, Howard’s interpretation differs from that of some faculty members. According to the university’s faculty handbook, the council has the general charge of providing “guidance and direction for the university’s graduate programs.” More specifically, the council "considers and recommends graduate curriculum changes and new programs," as well as policies on "academic standards, and graduation requirements." Even if the master’s degrees offered through Higher Ed Holdings are not to be considered “new,” there’s little debate that the university altered graduation requirements, reducing from 36 hours to 30 the required time to complete the master's in Educational Theory and Practice.

Erik Gilbert, a member of the Graduate Council, said a faculty representative from the Department of Educational Leadership, Curriculum & Special Education went before the council several months ago seeking their approval. The council balked, concerned that the course requirements for the master’s programs were insufficiently rigorous, and demanding more information, Gilbert said. Since that meeting, no one has asked the council again for approval, and Howard now asserts they don’t need it anyway because the program isn't "new."

“At different times people sort of represent these things in different ways,” Gilbert said. “But when it’s convenient for them, they maintain that there’s nothing new about it.”

“The whole thing is utterly Byzantine,” added Gilbert, a professor of history. “The ground shifts and the terms change constantly.”

Program Expands Rapidly

If Lamar University officials have one regret about the Higher Ed Holdings deal, it’s that they didn’t fully appreciate how dramatically and quickly enrollments would skyrocket. Lamar’s College of Education has seen rapid growth in its graduate programs, and that’s almost entirely attributable to the Higher Ed Holdings partnership. From the fall of 2007 to the fall of 2008, graduate enrollment in the college grew to 4,173, a spike of nearly 225 percent in a single year. Of all of the students enrolled in Lamar graduate education programs, 77 percent are in Academic Partnership programs.

For the profit model to work for Higher Ed Holdings, exponential growth is essential. The company bolsters numbers in large part through an advertising campaign that resembles those of colleges seeking a national audience, as opposed to the more regional approach universities like Arkansas State and Lamar have traditionally employed.

"We do not have an ability to market as effectively as they do," Howard said. "... The product that they put together was absolutely first rate."

Prospective Arkansas students who visit the Academic Partnership's Web site are greeted by video of a company spokeswoman who springs forth from the bottom of the page hologram-style. The spokeswoman hits the high notes of the marketing campaign: Low price, quick completion. The degrees cost a total of $4,950, which is as much as 60 percent less than comparable degrees cost. The time to degree is as little as 18 months for a degrees that can traditionally take 24 months to complete.

Borrowing a marketing technique that's traditionally employed in infomercials, Higher Ed Holdings is also pushing a "limited time" offer. The first 500 students accepted into the Arkansas State master's program are given the "First Course FREE!" -- a $495 value. The discount is given in the form of a "scholarship" to the "first 500 qualified and accepted applicants."

In exchange for Higher Ed Holdings’ services, universities typically give the company 80 percent of tuition revenues, according to three contracts provided to Inside Higher Ed. While the universities forfeit significant dollars in the deal, state appropriations are rising in tandem. Public universities typically receive state appropriations based party on credit hour production, and that number is rising steadily, even though the enrollment growth hasn’t required any new brick and mortar.

At Lamar, which has the most established program, enrollment growth has prompted the hiring of about six new faculty members, as well as additional hiring in admissions and the registrar's offices to handle the uptick in applications and students, according to Doblin, the university's provost said. Higher Ed Holdings, however, handles major expenses, including recruitment, technology, marketing and payment of the "coaches."

Public Universities, Private Deals

As a public institution, Doblin says “we believe in transparency and accountability [at Lamar].” But officials at the university have clammed up when it comes to talking about money.

Catherine Perry Cotten, executive director of Academic Partnerships at Lamar, repeatedly refused to say how much money the program has generated. Asked about revenues in an e-mail, Cotten said "we meet all expenses." Asked again to clarify her remarks by e-mail, Cotten said "As far as the revenue stream. We are running in the black. We spend no more than we make." Subsequent inquiries received no response.

While Cotten isn't discussing revenues, rough calculations suggest Lamar would generate about $16 million from current Academic Partnership students if all of those enrolled complete their master’s degrees. Under the contract, Higher Ed Holdings’ take would be approximately $12.8 million. The division of the dollars between the company and Lamar, however, constitutes a ballpark estimate because several variables are unknown. Lamar keeps more of the money for out-of-state students, and the university is also compensated for the courses it develops and teaches.

'The Goal is Scale'

Faculty who’ve taught classes or developed them through Higher Ed Holdings have differing views on the program’s effectiveness, and some of the harshest criticism actually comes from those who’ve refused to test it out.

Joe Nichols, an associate professor of education at Arkansas State, just wrapped up his first course with Higher Ed Holdings. His course was already offered online, but the company offers a new format that Nichols said improved the presentation of material. “I think the quality of delivery was superior to the way I do it online, but the content didn’t change one bit,” he said.

Nichols still said he prefers teaching in a traditional classroom, but feels the market simply demands growth online.

"I'm certainly not a poster-boy for HEH," he said. "I prefer doing face-to-face [teaching]."

For faculty who are comfortable with the concept of distance learning, Higher Ed Holdings’ model shouldn’t come as much of a shock, according to Kathleen Rose-Grippa, associate director of the master's in nursing program at Ohio University. Ohio recently signed a contract with the company to help deliver its bachelor of science in nursing (RN to BSN) degree, a program that has already been online for years.

“As long as I’m calling the shots, HEH is a vendor as far as I’m concerned,” said Rose-Grippa, who is currently designing a course with the company. “I’m using their services; it’s not different than when I go to the office supply place and order a computer. …

“They provide suggestions. If I say I don’t really like that strategy, the person I work with says fine.”

What unquestionably changes in a partnership with Higher Ed Holdings is enrollment, and some argue that this change alone has an affect on quality. At Lamar, where the partnership with Higher Ed Holdings is in full swing, classes have grown to as large as 2,000 students.

The large enrollments have raised questions in the minds of some professors about how they could possibly develop any kind of relationship or dialogue with their students. While Higher Ed Holdings officials maintain that faculty control curriculum, they don’t dispute that the large classes require faculty to rely more heavily on standardized testing than essays or other assignments that require more grading time.

“You’ve got to do your course to incorporate quite a bit of auto-grading, and strike a balance as to how much high-touch grading you have,” said Robert Riggs, a newly-hired spokesman for the company. “That’s a fact of life of doing it online; there has to be a pretty good component of auto grading.”

In a workshop for professors at Arkansas State, Higher Ed Holdings officials explained that coaches could only devote five to eight minutes per student, per week to grading, according to two faculty members who were present. Company officials also encouraged faculty to consider breaking down large essays into smaller pieces, say 150 words each or about a paragraph at a time, so they could be more easily graded, the faculty said.

Julie Grady, an assistant professor for curriculum at Arkansas State, said she felt the company was placing restrictions on assignments and content, even though they repeatedly said faculty could “absolutely … absolutely … absolutely” (they said it a lot) do whatever they wanted.

“It was ‘Oh yes, you have absolute control over the assessment. But it has to be something the coaches can grade,’ ” Grady recalls from the meeting. “‘Yes, you have control, but you’ve got to make sure it’s something the coaches can grade quickly.’ We can do whatever we want, but we have to make sure the coaches can handle 100 to 125 students each.”

Coaches handle an average of 118 students each, and seldom fewer than 25, according to Higher Ed Holdings. As for how much grading the coaches can do, company officials have given differing accounts. Grady and another faculty member say they were told coaches could handle five to eight minutes per student per week. Riggs, the company’s spokesman, initially said the figure was closer to 8 to 12 minutes, adding that stronger students didn’t require as much time to grade. Riggs then amended the figure again, sending an e-mail late Friday night that read, “The average amount of time a coach spends grading assignments can range from 5 – 20 [minutes]. Faculty are provided a reference point of approximately 10 minutes for manually graded tasks to help them understand the importance of structuring their assessments and assessment rubrics differently in a distance learning environment in which the goal is scale.”

As Riggs notes, “the goal is scale.” That’s a phrase Higher Ed Holdings uses a lot, and it’s one that doesn’t sit well with some faculty. To “scale,” as faculty understand it, is to take content that once took 14 weeks and deliver it in the space of five weeks, while at the same time growing a class from 20 students to 2,000.

The compressed time frame is not dissimiliar from the way summer courses are offered at Arkansas State. Moreover, distance learning models are often arranged so students can take a series of shorter, intensive online courses -- as opposed to taking several longer courses at once. Even so, some faculty say they're unconvinced quality is retained in the Higher Ed Holdings model. Summer sessions involve longer, more frequent class periods where 14 weeks of content can be compressed into five weeks. With the Higher Ed Holdings model, where all courses are online and coaches have limited grading time for hundreds of students, faculty say there's less assurance that the five week courses will be equivalent to the 14 week courses.

Even as the numbers of students grow in classes, faculty may be expected to do less work. An internal Higher Ed Holdings document, which the company provided to Inside Higher Ed in a slightly redacted form, indicates that faculty can expect to spend three to five hours a week managing a class. Developing the course typically takes one to two weeks, according to the document.

Model is 'Primitive,' Faculty Say

As a professor of education, Grady says she believes part of her duty is to model the best teaching practices. Now that she’s planning a course with Higher Ed Holdings, Grady says she’s found a cruel irony: “All this new technology is being used to revert back to the most primitive teaching model that we’ve ever had.”

While Grady says she feels pressure to adapt, she says she’s not sacrificing her curriculum to meet the limitations of the coaching model.

“There is no way they’ll get the grading done for my course,” she said. “So what? That’s something they’ll have to figure out. You told me I had control of the quality, and I’m going to control the quality.”

“And I hate it,” she added. “Because a lot of the people in this class are teachers I’m doing research with, teachers I know … I think it’s going to kill the relationship I have with those teachers.”

Amany Saleh, a professor of education at Arkansas State, teaches online courses but refuses to teach through Higher Ed Holdings. Saleh says she thinks it’s crucial that she can interact personally with all of her online students in discussions, and that’s something that wouldn’t be practical in a class of more than 1,000.

Given her concerns about the model, Saleh says she's worried about both the future of her own college and the future of teaching in general.

“It’s demoralizing to reduce education and teaching to this level,” she said. “What’s going to be the long-term effect? That I don’t know.”

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Comments on So Many Students, So Little Time

  • Sounds like Amway, to me
  • Posted by Don Heller , Professor at Penn State on March 24, 2009 at 5:15am EDT
  • "professors are paid $3,500 for developing courses and an additional $3,500 for teaching courses on top of their normal loads. The associate dean and department chair receive $1,000 per course developed, officials said."

    And let's see, the president and provost should get a cut too. The more faculty the associate dean and department chair recruit, the more they make! Get out there and push that soap!

    "“The average amount of time a coach spends grading assignments can range from 5 – 20 [minutes]. Faculty are provided a reference point of approximately 10 minutes for manually graded tasks to help them understand the importance of structuring their assessments and assessment rubrics differently in a distance learning environment in which the goal is scale.”

    I would love to be able to spend only 10 minutes on each assessment of my graduate students -- and let's remember, these are master's programs at ASU that we're talking about here. I don't think there's any question that these programs are being marketed purely as credentialing and revenue generation exercises, with little concern for how much the "students" actually learn.

  • Critical thinking and commercialization
  • Posted by Merilee Griffin on March 24, 2009 at 9:00am EDT
  • It is astounding that, while almost every report criticizing higher education in the last 25 years has called for better teaching of critical thinking, institutions would turn to commercial solutions that bypass it.

    Critical thinking requires thinking for oneself about complex, ill-structured problems. It is developed slowly and painstakingly by faculty who interact with students personally, questioning their reasoning, challenging their assumptions, pointing out leaps of logic and faulty use of evidence, and suggesting alternative ways to look at things. It goes far beyond the two most basic levels of learning outcomes, recall and comprehension, which can be assessed well by multiple-choice tests.

    Even essays, when reduced in scope and simplified for the purpose of obtaining reliable scores, fail to engage students in critical thinking skills. As I wrote in this publication in a viewpoint called The Assessment Impasse, if you want to see what is really tested in essay tests, you must examine not only the writing task, but the way it is scored. What is rewarded and what is overlooked in the scoring process are the real values underlying the assessment.

    Here's a suggestion to faculty members who want to challenge the credibility of inexpensive commercial education programs. Circulate 10 or 15 student essays that have been scored by the company "coaches," and ask your faculty to score the essays as well. Compare the scores. My guess is that the scores will be all over the place, indicating that the measure is highly unreliable and should not be used to grade students.

    It would be nice if we had a quick, inexpensive, easy way to teach higher cognitive skills, but that is not the case. Faculty alone can carry that burden. If the nation is serious about critical thinking and writing, it should encourage and support the faculty in teaching them. Cheap commercial alternatives won't get us there.

  • We're not serious. . . .that's the problem
  • Posted by Bryce , First-Year Experience at Brigham Young University on March 24, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • Merilee has driven to the root of the problem here. . .as Americans we are not serious about education, and by education, I mean real learning. What we are serious about is superficial educational experiences that provide us with credentials and fast tracks to better jobs or more money. Until this part of our culture changes, we'll continually struggle with the challenges described in this article.

    This has been my biggest fear with distance education and open source learning from the beginning. Generally, the more efficient and flexible we become, the less effective our pedagogy is. That's not to say that all online learning is bad--there are some great organizations providing very meaningful learning opportunities and doing it in active and collaborative ways (check out livemocha.com for a great example of this). The challenge for instructional designers is to find ways of integrating these two movements (online & active learning) so that we are really providing a good service to learners. For a thoughtful discussion of this issue you might be interested in visiting http://learningatwestminster.blogspot.com/2009/03/open-source-and-active-learning.html a blog maintained by Gary Daynes, Associate Provost for Integrative Learning at Westminster College.

  • Is this what the Spellings Commission was looking for?
  • Posted by Morphew , Assoc Prof/IHE at University of Georgia on March 24, 2009 at 12:30pm EDT
  • Business-like practices...greater efficiency...a focus on skills rather than learning (how else could faculty grade assignments in 10 minutes?). Much of this sounds like what the Spellings Commission was asking for.

  • Maybe it is the model, not the modality
  • Posted by K Knight on March 24, 2009 at 12:30pm EDT
  • Online and distance learning has been around for a very long time. Dating back to the 1800's individuals were able to obtain advanced learning through correspondence, a primitive form of today's internet based opportunities. I will agree that 1,000 students in a single online course for one instructor is ridiculous, but that is an issue of model, not modality. I am familiar with online programs with average course size of 25 students, and have even taken courses with as few as 5 students. This student/teacher ratio is effective regardless the modality- online or in-room. I have a son who was failed by the traditional high school learning modality of teacher-in-front-of-class-writing-on-chalkboard, and when enrolled in a district sponsored Online program, went from straight F's to straight A's, and graduated several months ahead of schedule. The online modality has its place, and Gen-Y students are proving to be highly successful in a techno-advanced learning environment such as Online presents.

  • The better question
  • Posted by Economics Lover , Teacher's Assistant at OSU on March 24, 2009 at 1:00pm EDT
  • Why must academia bicker about the theories of distance education when each distance learning offering must be judged independently? In order to understand the quality of this particular delivery offering you MUST evaluate the content and quality of instruction from each institution offering it. As in most, if not all, commercial offerings you can find poor quality and excellent quality in the product or service you are interested in. Likewise, I am sure that you can find good online courses and poor online courses. Rather than focusing in on grading mechanics, potential profit, or some unhappy faculty, we should only be interested in maintaining or heaven forbid increasing quality. I would be interested in reading the author, a professor, an actual student taking one of these courses, and/or an administrator’s view of an actual course(s) offered. It seems to me that many people in this article are judging the book by its cover instead of taking the time to actually read the book.

  • Posted by Ed on March 24, 2009 at 1:30pm EDT
  • This article is not a condemnation of on-line courses, or even innovative platforms. What is absolutely critical for the public to understand is that venture capitalists (like Randy Best)view higher education as the new bull market and that all the other issues, like curriculum, quality, and accountability, take a backseat to profit. Has anyone taken note of the fact that the state of Arkansas is allowing its state appropriations for student enrollment at ASU to be funnelled out of the state to HEH and the state of Texas? This article chronicles the plundering of higher ed by private industry. ASU's experience illustrates how willing university administrators are to compromise quality for a share of the plunder. It's very disheartening to read how faculty concerns were dismissed and curriculum was treated as nothing more than "goods and services."

  • Exactly the point
  • Posted by Ed Proff , professor at UT on March 24, 2009 at 3:30pm EDT
  • The previous post is exactly to the point! It is not about online vs traditional courses...the problem is the poor quality model proposed by some for profit companies.

  • To finish Ed Proff's point...
  • Posted by James on March 24, 2009 at 9:15pm EDT
  • "the problem is the poor quality model proposed by some for profit companies [and nonprofit institutions]!"

  • The point
  • Posted by Ed Proff , The point at UT on March 25, 2009 at 5:45am EDT
  • To finish the point:

    Agreed! Good point. The focus is not the delivery but the quality and from what faculty members using HEH report, the quality seems to be compromised with this "going to scale" model. The same poor quality could be delivered on campus. Julie Grady's point is powerful: "All this new technology is being used to revert back to the most primitive teaching model we've ever had." We know so much more now about how people learn and the importance of high quality pedagogical methods. High quality can be delivered in an online format or traditional format. But, videotaping a professor and having "coaches" administer tests (without the faculty member interacting with his/her students) is not high quality pedagogy. Read some of the recent books on teaching/learning such as "How People Learn" by the National Academy Press and you will learn that the teaching/learning process is much more complex and "good teachers" know how to use a variety of skills to interact with his/her students to convey complex information and scaffold student learning. This high level of skill from a professional teacher cannot be accomplished if the teacher is not interacting with his/her students and the knowledge is measured only on a test that can be graded by a coach in a few minutes.

  • Take ownership & do it right
  • Posted by Clara , Instructional Designer on March 25, 2009 at 5:45am EDT
  • I agree entirely. I am an instructional designer who develops online instruction for the military to rigorous standards; I spent much of my graduate years creating distance learning for higher ed. The message I get from Arkansas State's example is that the administration is naive, myopic, and technophobic. For a fraction of the cost, they could assemble their own distance education team to design and develop their faculty's curricula -- so they can facilitate and teach it.

    The literature on the trials and tribulations of online learning points overwhelmingly to the importance of faculty-student interaction, which is believed to be the most significant factor in preventing student attrition and bolstering motivation and performance. With grossly inflated student-faculty ratios, interaction is virtually and practically impossible. There are myriad examples of successful university DE programs that offer both synchronous and asynchronous communication and individual feedback. An optimal faculty-student ratio for an online course of this type is on average 1:25.

    Lecture halls of 300+ students face the same types of challenges - lack of interaction and standardized, knowledge-based assessment - but have unfortunately created the mirage of a gold mine for administrators.The costs associated with doing business with the company cited in this article will probably also include the damage done to the academic reputations of their client institutions. Their disgruntled alumni and their subsequent employers can easily offset the initial advantages culled from the marketing efforts of the provider. Ultimately, a degrading curriculum could undermine the investments of all participants.

    I know a lot of instructional designers who would be delighted to work in higher ed, but the disparity in university ISD wages with those of the private sector makes it an impractical choice for most. Hopefully, more institutions will choose to develop their own programs, including ongoing faculty workshops, rather than cede their quality and academic control to opportunistic franchises. The ultimate benefit of distance education is that it increases accessibility and can facilitate communication, collaboration, and analytical dialogue between faculty and students to a degree that's often not feasible even in the classroom.

  • really well done article
  • Posted by ellen on March 25, 2009 at 12:00pm EDT
  • the writer (or writers) should be very pleased with her/himself (or themselves); many aspects, dimension and views of the undocumented professor and socialized higher education in such a relatively short piece.

  • Neither for-profit or non-profit do it right
  • Posted by John McCullough , CEO at Education Ventures on March 25, 2009 at 1:30pm EDT
  • Public, non-profit vs. for-profit is sort of like comparing the Democratic party to the Republican party. Neither side has the right answers. The Democrats are right in theory about social issues but can never come up with practical, workable, efficient ways to implement their concerns. On economic issues the Democrats are just generally wrong. The Republicans, on the other hand, generally ignore social issues like they don't exist. And they have generally better economic thoery but they can never figure out how to implement them in a practical, workable manner.

    Public education is not particularly good, it is hugely overpriced and inefficient and often not relevent. For-profit education is often more relevant but it's also overpriced, if done via Interent is virtually worthless, and the emphasis is on profit not results and not quality.

    If both sides changed their model and got paid for "tested" results vs. hurs spent sitting in a class, then both models would be good.

  • Posted by Ed , Professor, C & I on March 25, 2009 at 7:00pm EDT
  • I profoundly reject McCullough's overly simplistic anaology. This type of dichotomous thinking and politicization of education borders on the ridiculous. However, it is stereotypical of corporate CEOs who cling to the failed free-market ideologies that have resulted in the banking mess our country faces. Certainly both the democratic and republican parties share responsibility for placing so much faith in the "honest" intentions of corporations to improve education at any level. I suggest that readers review the corruption that occurred with Reading First. Randy Best was front and center in that debacle as well, just before he hired Reid Lyon and Rod Paige to work for him and Higher Ed Holdings.

  • Alumna response
  • Posted by Caroline , Professor of Music at FCCJ on March 26, 2009 at 2:30pm EDT
  • I am an alumna of ASU. I received a come on from HEH as they entered into partnership with ASU, and make no mistake; it was a come on. The high points of the email were that I could pay $4995, and in 18 months I would receive the degree M.Ed. There was no mention of admission requirements. There was no mention of academic work required to complete the program. Of course, maybe the sales flier was tailored especially for me. I already hold the Ed.S. from ASU. I also know all of the ASU employees quoted in this article. I've taken classes from some of them, but I know them all. There is a strong inverse correlation between their opinions of HEH and their usefulness as educators. One of the professors quoted here met our class only 3 times. It was not an online or blended class. That professor required us to read the textbook and summarize it to prove we had done so. That was all we had to do. I'm sure the structure HEH offers seems like an acceptable alternative to that professor. S/He wasn't teaching anythign to begin with.

    I am serious about my studies, and I am serious about the practice of education. Our nation's current crises make our situation clear; we must improve the analytical skills of our electorate. I no longer expect that to happen in our schools.

  • clarification question
  • Posted by clarification question , Ed College (not ASU) at Ed College on March 26, 2009 at 11:30pm EDT
  • There were faculty quoted from ASU who liked and some who disliked HEH. Are you stating that the inverse correlation is with the faculty who liked HEH? In other words, the faculty who liked it were the terrible instructors on campus too? Just wondering since there were other faculty who said HEH was the most primitive way of teaching one could imagine. 

  • Clarification
  • Posted by Caroline , Professor of Music at FCCJ on March 27, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • The faculty/administrators who like HEH were useless to me as a student. They did not teach and/or were not available for student interaction. The faculty who dislike HEH were fabulous instructors, set rigorous standards, and--most importantly--were always available to help students meet those standards.

  • Stinks to high heaven
  • Posted by Mike , Associate Professor at ASU on March 31, 2009 at 4:30am EDT
  • As a professor at this university, I must stand up for my university while at the same time signaling disgust for this insane partnership. There are many fine faculty here that work students hard and have high standards. It cheapens the entire experience for everyone and I think the contract should be destroyed and the people who idiotically entered into the contract made accountable for their actions.

    The faculty involved in the department have been hushed by this mess. If your university is even half considering joining this partnership, don't. The faculty in the department in question are not allowed to edit courses once they are created. They have little control over their intellectual property. There is a clear problem.

  • I am supposed to start the program over the summer
  • Posted by Kindergarten Teacher on March 31, 2009 at 6:15pm EDT
  • I am looking forward to receiving my ASU degree via this program. The cost is what drew me to look at ASU. I do not live close to a university and I am paying for the degree out of my pocket. I have two years teaching experience and this program seems just right for a busy teacher like myself! I am not looking for a free ride to a masters degree. I enjoyed my undergrad and credentialing program, all completed at brick and mortar schools. I am expecting to enjoy the online classes as well.

    Aside from the politics, is there any reason to think that I will not be challenged or learn anything from this program?

    Will my improving my education not benefit my students because I am not sitting in a lecture hall several nights and/or weekends a month?

    Or is it that because I am paying $500 a class, that I could not possibly get such a good education from this program, as in "you get what you pay for."

    Let's give the program a chance and hear from actual teachers in the program. I will be happy to check back with you after I complete my first class!

  • Posted by Prof of Ed on April 1, 2009 at 5:30am EDT
  • I wish you all the best, kindergarten teacher. Please understand that just like you worry about your young students and how policy issues such as high stakes tesing, NCLB legislation, etc., affects them and their outcomes, people who have dedicated their professional lives to higher education worry about the integrity of their programs.

    Many ed professors teach online courses and many of the courses reflect our commitment to high standards. The issue is not online vs. face to face courses. I repeat, online courses are not the issue.

    The issue is the role of the private corporation, Higher Ed Holdings, within a public university and the way they are making changes in the curriculum. There has obviously been a great deal of dishonesty in how everything has happened. Professors have very legitimate concerns about concerns about policy, transparency, and shared governance that can have wide reaching concerns among all those involved in higher ed. We have an obligation to the public, who support public universities through tax dollars, to raise concerns about private corporations who enter into contracts with public agencies. We wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't. Professors' responsibilities extend far beyond merely teaching courses and include research as well as university service obligations, which include curriculum development and protecting the integrity of academics.

    For you, as a future student in one of these programs, I would pay attention to the fact that the programs haven't been officially "approved" -- as per the university's graduate bulletin ("approval pending" means that it isn't offically approved by the university or, possibly, the state). You should be very careful about investing money in a unapproved degree. You might want to call your state's department of education to check on the validity of the program as well as call the Graduate School and ask about the approval status.

    These private corporation's programs aren't always recognized as valid. I've heard horror stories from people who've graduated degrees from private online schools only to find out that the degrees aren't recognized by their employers.

  • Response to kindergarten teacher
  • Posted by TeacherEducator , Education at State University in the South on April 1, 2009 at 8:45pm EDT
  • First of all, let me say that it is wonderful that you are continuing your education so that you can strengthen your understanding and practice of teaching and learning. Undoubtedly, your students and school will also reap the benefits of your continued education.

     

    As a public school teacher and university teacher educator who is passionately committed to public education, I would like to say that when I think about the education of my own graduate students – teachers just like yourself, for whom I have the utmost respect and admiration- I want the best education for them. I want their growth as teachers to be based on more than what they get from reading the book at home that I assign, taking multiple choice tests periodically online, adding a few postings to a discussion board that other students may or may not read, and their work being assessed by graders who do not have expertise in the field of the work they are assessing. I don’t want you or my students to have this very mediocre graduate school experience.

     

    Based on the educational research from the past few decades, we know so much more about teacher education and how this translates into real change in classrooms and schools. Among many other things we have learned, we know that teachers’ prior beliefs and attitudes about instruction, curriculum, and assessment have been influenced by their own schooling and life experiences and that these beliefs and attitudes are very strongly held. Reading a little bit in a textbook is not necessarily enough to shake these tenacious beliefs and attitudes. We know that teachers learn a great deal from each other about how to improve their practice from face-to-face interactions with other teachers. We know that faculty can be extremely influential in pushing their students’ thinking to the next higher level by taking advantage of those teachable moments that arise from the amazing comments and questions that teachers pose during class sessions. We know that students’ thinking changes when they have the opportunity to work alongside experts in their fields so they can access how the experts think, talk, and write about teaching and learning. I want my graduate students to have these opportunities. For me to accept or support anything less for my students would be dishonorable.

     

    With that said, I feel there is no reason that some online sessions could not be a part of this, but I fervently believe they should not be all of the experience.

     

    While I don’t know the kinds of educators the faculty are at ASU, apparently the reasons ASU agreed to work with Academic Partnerships are complex. I do feel certain that part of the reason they agreed to make the change is because they are not informed teacher educators and do not grasp the significant differences between a mediocre teacher education program and a high quality graduate-level educational experience that challenges the thinking of devoted, intelligent, enthusiastic educators, such as yourself and your colleagues. If they understood the differences, I don't see how they could have agreed to the program changes.

     

    You suggest getting feedback from current students in the Academic Partnership program. While, I would imagine that students taking the courses right now could provide some very valuable feedback, I would argue that they are not in a position to fully evaluate the program since their expertise is in their respective fields and probably not in professional teacher education.

     

    Best wishes in your future educational endeavors.

  • Response to Kindergarten Teacher
  • Posted by Deborah Owens , Assistant Professor, Department of Teacher Education at Arkansas State University on April 2, 2009 at 1:00pm EDT
  • First of all, I’m very impressed with Kindergarten Teacher’s comment. I teach in the undergraduate Early Childhood Program at ASU as well as in the MSE-Reading program. I would love to know where you are teaching -- I assume in Arkansas. The fact that you discuss higher ed experiences in terms of “credentialing programs” and “brick and mortar schools” reflects a fairly sophisticated framework for engaging in conversations about policy issues. If you received your undergraduate degree from ASU I’d like to congratulate your undergraduate professors and instructors.

    Let me clarify a couple of points regarding HEH at ASU. The College of Education did, indeed, enter into a contract with HEH. However, only one department within the College of Ed is offering their programs. The Department of Teacher Education has not participated in the HEH model. The Department of Teacher Education is very serious about licensure and credentialing and, while we do offer some on-line courses and other web-assisted delivery methods, we are very serious about our accreditation standards and understand that a high quality, teacher education program incorporates extensive field experiences and meaningful scaffolding of the learning experience. Some of the professors in the Teacher Education Department have fiercely protected our programs in light of the partnership with HEH. The Dept. of Ed. Leadership/Special Ed. apparently does not share our concerns and has decided to proceed with HEH’s online model. Unfortunately, the article makes it appear that the entire College of Education has aligned itself with HEH. I think it’s important to emphasize out that the Department of Teacher Education does not offer HEH programs.

    I would also like to point out that in the graduate programs the Teacher Education Department offers, the concept of a reliance on the lecture hall is not really a part of our experience. We emphasize theory to practice through experiential learning, practicums, and action research and offer courses in a variety of formats that accommodate the professional lives of our graduate students. Graduate classes are generally smaller than undergraduate classes (which are limited in size as well) because we recognize the value of engaging in meaningful discussions and collaboration. Professors in the MSE Reading program continually assess our program requirements, course offerings, the delivery methods to ensure that we are aligned with national standards and are meeting the needs of the teachers, schools, communities, and children we serve.

    The HEH model depends on very large numbers to be profitable. In order to accommodate large numbers, academic coaches interact with students, grade assignments, etc. I am not going to comment on my opinion of the HEH model in this forum. I Jack Stripling did an excellent job reporting on the benefits of the program (profit for HEH, large numbers for ASU) and its shortcomings. I feel compelled, however, to speak for the integrity of the Department of Teacher Education at ASU and our dedication to our profession.

    Kindergarten Teacher, I can appreciate the value of a graduate program that is cheaper than a traditional program. I, too, paid for my education without student loans or grants and made many sacrifices to earn a Ph.D. I’m now able to serve my profession on a different level -- as a teacher educator. It’s disheartening that by virtue of one department’s decision to align themselves with HEH and drastically alter their concept of graduate programs, I’m being put in the position of having to defend the teacher education programs taught in the Department Teacher Education. I’m not sure if ASU’s administration appreciates the far-reaching effects of the HEH partnership and how its impact on ASU’s integrity as well as my professional standing among my peers in the academy. It is, indeed, disheartening.

  • Not surprising
  • Posted by Melvin , Ed. Prof on April 3, 2009 at 6:15pm EDT
  • There is nothing surprising about this situation at ASU. Proverbs says that where there is no vision, the people perish. Much has been lacking there with regard to vision and strategic planning for a long time and HEH just simply took advantage of that fact. These decisions were not based on principles or best practices, but on pride and profit. This is an unfortunate time for faculty and students.

  • Posted by Ed on April 5, 2009 at 4:30pm EDT
  • For faculties of universities confronting Higher Ed Holding's salesmanship, the University of Toledo offers a playbook for how to maintain the integrity of their programs. Students and faculty worked together to prevent administration from signing a contract. Bringing their concerns into the public forum was a powerful incentive for HEH and UT to rethink contract negotiations. It may be too late for ASU, but other universities should beware and exercise the power of the press -- both print and online forums.
    http://stophehcorporateplundering.blogspot.com/

  • Melvin is Correct
  • Posted by ASU alumni 01 , teacher at ASU on April 5, 2009 at 10:15pm EDT
  • I am not opposed to online classes on any level. The technology is such that there is no need to leave the comfort of your home or office and be able to receive a degree in almost any subject. However, with the introduction of online colleges, the lack of standards and accountability; "What is a bachelors degree really worth?" I know many of the professors that were interviewed and regret the upheaval in the departments this has caused them. It saddens me to see people that I love and respect treated as if their opinions mean nothing. I would go to bat for any of them. Sure they are not all perfect, some are great, some are fair and some are just poor. But what ever happened to "academic freedom?" I hope the professors band together and refuse to participate in any part of this. As a child of the 60's, I think it is time for a passive peaceful protest. No need to get your hackles up...just politely refuse to participate and make a few well placed calls to the right Arkansas State Legislators and Senators. Just forward the article to all the state legislators and senators and let a few of the RIGHT alumni get behind this. Nothing like passive activism with a pinch of politics thrown in.

  • Rolling Back
  • Posted by Disappointed at AR Public School on April 6, 2009 at 12:00am EDT
  • I am a consumer of ASU’s product, specifically from the department which is receiving so much attention regarding the relationship with HEH. And as a consumer I feel a bit insulted, much like one would at the grocery store to see that the trusted maker of a favorite product is now offering 25% less, but charging 50% more and marketing it to make you feel like they are doing you a favor. Or another example, which currently creates a lot of head scratching for me, is the concept of charging the consumer a fee to help de-gunk their car engines from the 10% ethanol they are cutting unleaded with, that is gunking up engines in the first place. 

     

    The closing quote in article from Dr. Saleh states, “It’s demoralizing to reduce education and teaching to this level. What’s going to be the long-term effect? That I don’t know.”

     

    I’ll tell you one of them. I really do not like the route this department is taking at ASU, and regardless of the recruitment efforts now taking place, I will likely not be a future consumer of an institution that subscribes to such practices, especially without the support of the faculty involved. To hear so much lip-service from the curriculum taught in this department that emphasizes including “stakeholders” as a means to success, it is sad to see them a victim of irresponsible practices of their own administration. I really don’t want to pursue the next stage of my formal education from a purveyor of bargain basement degrees that is out of touch with the vision of the educational leaders (professors) that they oversee. 

     

    My view regarding the HEH debacle is not connected to the respect I feel for several excellent faculty members working in ASU's Department of Educational Leadership, Curriculum and Special Education.

     

    Now, much like the high school diploma, the value of a college degree becomes devalued and more worthless with each uninformed bureaucratic innovation.

     

     

  • Program
  • Posted by Cindysped , Teacher on April 20, 2009 at 4:30pm EDT
  • I am taking courses as well and love it. The courses are pretty tough and we have a workload each week. I think ASU is doing a great job by offering the program!

  • Left Behind
  • Posted , History teacher on April 22, 2009 at 10:00am EDT
  • I have read the article and am saddened by how people in general react to change. I am a high school teacher and am currently enrolled in the on-line program at Arkansas State University. I obtained my bachelors degree from a private Christian college. I have taken several on-line classes that were equal or better than the traditional class room classes. I have been with this program from the start and am very impressed with the logistics of the curriculum. It has been rigorous and time consuming but for the most part it has been attainable. I have participated in on-line, intersession and summer classes during the course of my education. This program is an assortment of all three. This will be the new wave of the future ready or not. My question is why is this a faculty decision to begin with? This is an administration decision. If you as a professor don’t feel comfortable teaching on-line classes, by all means don’t. There are plenty of others waiting in line for the opportunity of new innovations. It is a cheap shot to attack the curriculum of a course. If we as educators are going to continually measure and compare each class and degree program, I think frameworks and end of course testing are in order for the college level also. We have been benchmark testing at the high school and elementary level for years. That is also coming at the college level. I have been in on-line courses and none compare. You don’t have to go sit in a classroom to get a good education. In fact, only the serious students sign up for on-line classes. I, personally, like the idea of having help grading papers. Most college classes are so large the professor can not assign much work because there is no way to grade all of it. Educators need help! I have had plenty of help in this program. The academic coaches have done an excellent job; and, by the way, they are qualified to teach the classes themselves. People refused to use the typewriter when it was first invented. People will change or they will be left behind.

  • Posted by Ed on April 26, 2009 at 3:15pm EDT
  • Incredibly, there persists the notion that objections to the HEH-university partnership revolve solely around professors who do not want to participate in instuction that utilizes state-of-the-art technology. Most universities use on-line formats to some extent and professors enjoy the flexibility of on-line formats for a number of courses.

    The issue is the role of private corporations within public universities. Public universities are funded in part by tax dollars (through state appropriation funds) and student tiution (which, is often supplemented by federal grant dollars and subsidized loans). Corporations certainly play an important role within universities in a number of capacities. HEH, however, represents a new trend in corporate involvement in public institutions to: 1) siphon tax dollars into private corporate coffers to create wealth for stock holders; and 2) influence curriculum and violate the tenets of shared governance. Arkansas State University turns 80% of tuition dollars over to HEH and relies on state appropriations to maintain financial viability with these programs. University of Toledo rejected a 70%/30% split because of the damage HEH would do to their reputation through shared governance violations and the watering down of their curriculum.

    Change is, indeed, good. I reject the notion, however, that universities must engage private coporations in order to maintain a competitive edge in higher education. The majority of those involved in technology based education design innovation were educated at universities. I'm not opposed to profit for corporations, either. I am wholeheartedly opposed, however, to HEH's use of public institutions, with their cache of tax dollars and accreditation, to increase their profits.

  • The Public Feeding Trough
  • Posted by Jason , Professor on May 13, 2009 at 10:00pm EDT
  • HEH, like all corporations, is in business to make profits. They use their clout and cronys to enable them to feed off the public trough of tax dollars to beef up their profits. HEH partners with universities, offers a service that they generally already have (technology platforms for online courses), take a huge percentage of tuition dollars, and entice the university with a promise of extremely large enrollment in online programs. The tuition dollars make the corporation rich; the tax dollars in the form of student appropriations from the state go to the university. It's all good until other state universities wake up and realize the predatory nature of the public/private partnership and the burgeoning monopoly over graduate programs.

  • Class Update
  • Posted by Kindergarten Teacher on May 28, 2009 at 8:45pm EDT
  • I just finished my first class. It was a great experience. It was a lot more hours of reading, prep and papers than I thought. I started another class this week. The time is flying by. I admit that I had to brush up on my APA paper rules and regs. I also found myself waiting until the last minute to finish up a couple of the assignments. But hey, life gets in the way. I am also still teaching for another couple of weeks. I decided to continue with the program. I found no reasons not to. I love the way the course is delivered and my classmates are awesome, supportive and busy just like me. It's great! I had almost 350 in my first class. I think my second my class has the same or slightly more. So far, in my discussions, we have 10-12 students paired up. Bottom line: I love it!

  • Posted by ASU Grad Student , Early Childhood Educator/ Grad Student on July 11, 2009 at 12:15am EDT
  • Education is a complex profession as is, without the idiosyncrasies of incorporating a program that taints the diligent, thought-provoking, well-designed, and highly efficient graduate degree programs already in place at ASU-Jonesboro. As a current ASU graduate student, I am perturbed by this new degree option since it lures educators away from a high quality education. Our profession is under constant scrutiny from politicians, corporations, other countries, American citizens and even debated among ourselves that we need not contribute by promoting educators to acquire such a degree. Remember, these are the models, designers, implementers, mentors that dramatically effect whether students learn or become another drop-out statistic. I ask you, do we seriously want them to obtain a degree online alongside hundreds of others without the proper discussions and scaffolding necessary to obtain a proper higher education?

    As I have begun my journey through the graduate program, I have immensely become a better writer, while honing my own educational theories. Most significantly, I am a better teacher because of the enriching assignments and discussions provided. Which graduate experience is more attractive: spending five weeks in each class for eighteen months that consists of interacting online only or having a variety of experiences through lecture, online and authentic in-class discussions, being properly scaffolded by a professor while implementing theory to practice within the context of your classroom? The conclusion is simple for me, I choose an authentic learning environment that promotes and encourages me to think critically and develop my educational philosophy.

    There is no doubt in my mind that I am receiving a top notch education and in the wake am creating endless learning possibilities for my students while making myself more marketable!

    Any person that chooses to further their education is commendable; just ensure that your investment of capitol and time are fruitful!

  • Lamar Academic Partnership
  • Posted by Cynical on September 21, 2009 at 9:15pm EDT
  • I admit it - I got suckered into the Lamar Academic Partnership because of the price, but I have paid dearly for it. I have experienced nothing but incompetence, starting with poorly written tests. I am now one class (plus my "internship") away from a degree, but am going to have to put it all off for almost two years. Because I am not not actively enrolled in a class, I do not get ANY information from Lamar. I have no idea when comp. test dates are and I have no idea if my portfolio is even being graded. No one at the school seems at all concerned about my situation, and why would they? They already have over 4K of moneyout of my pocket - they have nothing to lose.

    Compared with my friends who have gotten a M.Ed. in a more traditional manner, I feel that I was basically just doing busy work to warrant a grade. Many times, my instructions were so unclear that my course assistant didn't even know what the assignment was asking for. On a test, I once was asked a true/false question over a question (i.e. Is the sky blue? True or false).

    I have been e-mailing the school since June, and have never gotten a satisfactory reply. In fact, just today, I caught one represenative in a flat out lie. Obviously she must not know what a CC is on an e-mail.

  • Like any educational experience, you get out what you put in.
  • Posted by High school teacher , Graduate student at University of Texas at Arlington Academic Partnership on January 29, 2010 at 5:00am EST
  • I am currently enrolled in my second class through UTA's Academic Partnership program with HEH. Like Kindergarten Teacher, I weighed the options and decided this was a good opportunity for me. I am in a relatively rural area, and commuting is not an option. I am a full-time high school teacher with almost 20 years of experience in the classroom and a young family. An online program meets my needs as a parent and a professional. I have no interest in obtaining a degree through a "University of __________" online program; what sold me on this program was its affiliation with the University of Texas system.

    So far, I am not disappointed. My degree plan--M.S. in Educational Leadership--requires me to complete internship hours in the same way my non-online colleagues must. My professors are tenured members of UTA. The reading load and writing requirements are academic and specific; I am expected to demonstrate advanced knowledge and skills. The program is approved by the state of Texas as a recognized principal preparation program. When I am finished, I will sit for the principal's licensure test with an endorsement from UTA.

    I would say that if I spend my money and time and cannot pass the principal's test, THEN I have a problem. But if I earn my degree through my hard work and become licensed as an administrator, haven't I demonstrated that I have earned the license in a valid manner?

    I cannot speak for the folks in Arkansas, but the Texans seem to have this program well underway in an academic and professional way.