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April 17, 2009

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Administrators have long suspected that most students who “reverse transfer” from four-year institutions to community colleges -- given that they are typically from low-income families -- do so for financial reasons. A new report, however, argues that parents' level of education has a bigger impact than does income, and that academic difficulty in the first years of college is more likely to be the reason behind reverse transfer.

This month’s issue of Sociology of Education -- a journal of the American Sociological Association – features a report that attempts to explain the socioeconomic differences among college transfer students. The research of Sara Goldrick-Rab, professor of education policy studies and sociology at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, is based on the latest numbers from the National Educational Longitudinal Study. These numbers come from students who graduated from high school in 1992, and follow them through 2000.

Goldrick-Rab used a sample group of students who started their postsecondary education at a four-year institution. In this group, 33 percent transferred at least once within eight years of graduating from high school. Nearly 20 percent transferred “laterally,” from one four-year institution to another, and 15 percent transferred in “reverse” to a community college.

Lateral transfers were significantly more likely than reverse transfers to complete a bachelor’s degree – 69 percent compared to 22 percent. Both figures are still lower than the 79 percent graduation rate of those who did not transfer at all. Among those who reverse transferred and eventually made it back to a four-year institution, however, the graduation rate was 49 percent.

This, Goldrick-Rab noted, gives these reverse transfers a greater chance of earning a bachelor’s degree than students who start at a community college and then transfer upward to a four-year institution. She argued, however, that this is not an “effective pathway” for students to take, given the decreased likelihood that they will attain a four-year degree once they have transferred to a community college.

Transfer direction (lateral or reverse) was significantly affected by the student’s socioeconomic background. Students with families from the lowest income bracket were not quite half as likely as students with families from the highest income bracket to transfer between four-year institutions. They were three times more likely, however, to transfer to a community college.

The strongest indicator of transfer status, however, even considering income levels, was level of parental education. Students whose parents had more than a bachelor’s degree were some of the least likely to reverse transfer. At the opposite end, nearly 25 percent of those students whose parents had not completed high school reverse transferred.

The report attempts to account for the motivations behind the demographic differences made clear between these two types of transfers.

“Lateral transfer students appear to be a relatively elite set, since their levels of household income and parental occupational status are higher than average,” the report reads. “Their motivations for changing colleges may be based on expressions of personal preference, possibly striving to move to a ‘better’ school, but are clearly not connected to inadequate academic preparation in high school or poor performance in college.”

Though the rationale for reverse transfer might seem apparent, given the lower socioeconomic status of these students, Goldrick-Rab noted she was surprised to find that money was not the key issue for this cohort.

“The levels of academic preparation, informational and financial resources, and educational expectations found among the children of less-educated parents do not explain these students’ tendency to reverse transfer,” the report reads. “Instead, the analyses clearly showed that students who are equally well prepared for college but come from less-educated families show a higher propensity to leave the four-year college track because they struggle academically in their first year of college. This finding is consistent with other research that has identified significant challenges for first-generation students, particularly during their first year of college.”

Although this data was taken from college students during the mid- to late 1990s, Goldrick-Rab believes the rationale for reverse transfer is still less about money, even with the economy forcing some to reconsider their college selection. As more data become available about today’s students, she expects to see a further increase in the number of students who chose to reverse transfer.

From a policy standpoint, Goldrick-Rab believes that four-year institutions should bear most of the burden when it comes to stemming the tide of reverse transfers. She said that four-year institutions should adopt mandatory advising programs to help students “resolve their academic challenges” and stay at a four-year school. Ideally, she added, these programs should cater to students whose parents did not attend graduate school -- the most crucial population in the report.

“The function of community colleges shouldn’t be to do the job that a four-year school should have done,” Goldrick-Rab said. “Four-year schools need to not think about losing some of these students to community colleges as inevitable. It’s been their problem all along. There has to be something to catch these students on the other end.”

She recommends that four-year institutions promote advising resources to students who are considering transferring -- such as a sign that says "Thinking of leaving? Feel like you can't make it here? Talk to us." She said that these students, and sometimes their parents, often do not understand that reverse transferring to a community college lowers their chances to earn a four-year degree, as the data show.

“A lot of people don’t have a lot of information on hand when things don’t go well at a four-year school,” Goldrick-Rab said. “They’re not savvy about things and will think it fine to just go home and attend their local community college. That’s fine, but the chances of getting a bachelor’s degree are drastically diminished. They’re derailing their stated ambition of getting the degree they wanted. I don’t think a lot of them realize the consequences, and I think [reverse transferring] can be prevented.”

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Comments on Why Reverse Transfer?

  • 'Drop downs' found before
  • Posted by Gavin Moodie , Principal Policy Adviser at Griffith University, Australia on April 17, 2009 at 7:15am EDT
  • This is consistent with previous studies that found that most reverse transfer students are 'drop downs', in a term used by Kintzer, F C (1989) Articulation and transfer: a review of current literature on statewide and interinstitutional program models and trends, New Jersey State Department of Higher Education, Trenton (ERIC Document Reproduction Service No. ED 311 946).

  • Still better than no degree at all
  • Posted by T on April 17, 2009 at 8:45am EDT
  • While reverse transfers or "drop downs" are less likely to earn a bachelor's degree than those who remain at a 4-year, it's better than the alternative, which is dropping out of college altogether and never earning any kind of post-secondary degree. Four-year institutions should make an effort to help students remain where they are. Those who can't should be encouraged to continue their education at a community college, and reverse transfer of credit should be possible between the institutions.

  • Another perspective on reverse transfers
  • Posted by Margaret B. Lee , President and Professor of English at Oakton Community College on April 17, 2009 at 9:00am EDT
  • While I do not have data from a longitudinal study on reverse transfer behavior, I do have 24 years of experience at a single suburban community college in a district where more than 95% of high school graduates go to college. I know that the reverse transfer behavior is more often than not better characterized by both swirling and even concurrent enrollment. This is especially true during the summer terms and interims between semesters, The majority of our student population during these times enroll in courses to catch up, get ahead, and/or stay on the often winding path to the degree they seek. In addition, the growth in interest and enrollment in dual credit programs interests and engages students in their senior year of high school and jump starts those who take advantage--lessening time to degree which, as we know, is so often longer than four years. In these economic times where students and families have to find ways to cope with escalating costs in every aspect of their lives, we see more and more choosing to spend their first two years at a community college for a total of $5000-$6000 and finish. With purpose and effort, we let our students know that they can START HERE, GO ANYWHERE. Our students show and tell us often that they do.

  • community college graduation statistics
  • Posted by d from MD on April 17, 2009 at 9:30am EDT
  • Before any assumptions are made in terms of percentage of those graduating from a community college and using that number for comparisons, first you would have to ask if those results have been sorted to eliminate those who reached their goals. Perhaps a degree was not the goal; perhaps the goal was a certificate, a course to enter a field, a.... If no sort has been done to clarify statistics so that we are comparing apples to apples, then comparisons here could be very suspect. It may be that these students are MORE successful at a community college and that their needs can be addressed more successfully at a community college. I do know, as a community college employee, that reverse transfers have cited smaller classes and quality instruction and thus enjoy, and benefit from, their time at the community college. I also know that some, at four year colleges, are derailed by social activities and a lack of ability to set academics before or even balance them their social endeavors. Yes the patterns cited in the article raise interesting and important questions and a possible pattern, but I think some additional questions need to be raised.

  • Reverse transfer and causality
  • Posted by Jeffrey on April 17, 2009 at 10:15am EDT
  • The statistics of the success rate at earning a bachelors for reverse transfer students are not good, provided, as one commentor has stated, that the actual goal of these students is/was a bachelors (how many ended up in nursing or computer tech or graphic design?). However, these statistics do not warrant the claim that by reverse transferring a student lowers his/her chances of earning a bachelors--the data don't tell us anything about the effects of this move, only something about the success rate of the group of students this statistic describes. Until there's a control group, we can't know what effect reverse transfer has on students earning a bachelors. It could be that without reverse transfer, even fewer would earn a bachelors.

  • reverse transfers
  • Posted by formerccpres on April 17, 2009 at 11:30am EDT
  • Margaret "Peg" Lee, d of MD, and Jeffrey are quite right, and know whereof they speak. This sociology study is very limited, and apparently was done by people who might know a lot about sociology but not very much about the rich mix of higher education goals and opportunities that are available to our rich mix of students in the United States. Studies like this and the reports of their "results," tend to feed misperceptions rather than clarify. All scientists, even social scientists, must guard against the possibility that their limited findings will be interpreted by other people who also don't know much about the topic at hand (like Congress, for example!).

  • Racial and Cultural Differences should be studied
  • Posted by Sandra Begay-Campbell , Former Regent / Trustee at University of New Mexico on April 17, 2009 at 12:15pm EDT
  • Based on my experience with American Indian Higher Education, community college education and four-year institutions, I suggest future studies of lateral and or reverse transfers look at racial and cultural differences. There is little research for American Indian transfers. Although there are significant economic and academic factors related to American Indian students choosing community or tribal colleges, I have anecdotally noted there are racial and cultural reasons why American Indian student can succeed in obtaining a bachelor's degree by lateral or reverse transfer.

  • Swirling and Causality
  • Posted by Sara Goldrick-Rab at UW-Madison on April 17, 2009 at 12:15pm EDT
  • Thanks to all of you for your many comments. I'd like to take the opportunity to respond to a few.

    1. Swirling. Several of you are concerned that I might not be considering the phenomenon of swirling. On the contrary, in fact I've spent 5 years studying swirling (and did my dissertation on it-- see 2004, "Swirling Students: Putting a New Spin on College Attrition", University of Pennsylvania). As my 2009 paper explains, however, I now dislike that term for two important reasons: (1) It is not very precise, since it encapsulates multiple types of enrollment behavior and (2) It places a label on a group of largely disadvantaged students-- and such labels often come with unintended consequences. Lee is right, these are often winding pathways-- but in the end (at least 8 years after high school graduation), they tend to conclude with students from disadvantaged backgrounds not ending up with degrees. If you'll look at my website and my blog (eduoptimists.blogspot.com) I think you'll find that I'm deeply engaged in higher education policy, spend a lot of time with institutional leaders and personnel in multiple sectors, and devote far more effort to addressing their concerns and those in my academic disciplinary field.

    2. Concurrent Enrollment. In this study we deal EXTREMELY carefully with concurrent enrollment, and the definition of reverse transfer we employ is restrictive-- these are students who truly left one college for another-- they are not enrolled at the same time. I think when you read the actual paper, you'll find the number of footnotes needed to explain just how careful we were very comforting. Again, we took great pains to address your concerns-- and ours.

    3. Causality. Please read the paper. As I stated in my presentation of the work at AERA yesterday, reverse transfer may be indicative of struggles on the road to completion, as much as it could be a cause of struggles. We did not use any causal language whatsoever in the paper, and note that while descriptive statistics indicates disparities in completion rates one should not assume the reverse transfer is the cause of the problem. That does not mean, however, that the phenomenon should not be addressed-- if reverse transfer were equally common among students from all family backgrounds it might be relatively benign, even if it did lower degree completion rates. But this is not the case- the propensity to engage in reverse transfer varies systematically by family background, and thus it reinforces inequalities.

    4. Who to Blame? Why? I was careful when speaking with the reporter to make it clear I do not place any blame whatsoever on community colleges for rates of reverse transfer. You are doing your jobs, and doing it well. The issue is why reverse transfer is treated as inevitable or even appropriate by 4-year institutions, when the data indicate it stems partly from a lack of information rather than a lack of desire for a BA (for the record, we *do* control for educational expectations-- in that sense this is apples to apples).

    5. The Rich Mix/Multiple Missions. While of course higher education and its institutions have a rich mix of goals and opportunities, that rich mix can never be an excuse for inequality in student outcomes. Again, I fully support the work of community colleges--and this paper contains absolutely no critique of them, though I suppose it could always be incorrectly interpreted that way.

  • Aha!
  • Posted by Sara Goldrick-Rab on April 17, 2009 at 12:15pm EDT
  • To amend my prior comment: Mea culpa--I do see causal language evident in my closing quote. That was unfortunate, and not reflective of the writing in the actual article. I write this as I sit at a Hechinger Institute on media communications, so hopefully next time I'll get my point across more clearly and accurately!

  • Maybe there is more to the "reverse tranfer" situation
  • Posted by Patti , Student Support/Instructor on April 17, 2009 at 1:00pm EDT
  • I have worked with students from low income, first generation families for 20+ years at a FOUR year university. It takes some risk identification and willingness to advise this particular student to be knowledgable of all the support services available to them. Most FOUR year universities or colleges have these programs. It takes a dedicated advisor, once again to take an interest in a student above and beyond the ordinary. I would not be appaulded to having a student reverse transfer, if that was the best academic decision for this idividual whether it be for personal, financal or profession choice.

  • Lateral or Down?
  • Posted by CC Professor on April 17, 2009 at 3:30pm EDT
  • The very language of the article, and one comment, is probably indicative of the reason "drop downs" don't do very well despite having initially met the stricter admission requirements of a university. That reason? A CC is a lateral transfer academically. If the student thinks they are dropping "down" academically, say to a glorified high school with social promotion and lots of extra credit opportunities where only a few percent of those attending regularly will fail, that student is going to fail their CC english or math classes as surely as they failed the ones at a university.

    The ones who succeed, and I see lots of them, are ones who wipe the slate clean and do what they should have done the first time. That is particularly true if what they needed the first time was a bit of remediation in math, and they take it seriously this time around.

  • Disproportionate Freshman Scholarships
  • Posted by Kathy , Parent on April 17, 2009 at 11:15pm EDT
  • In addition to student performance, consideration needs to be given to the fact that many freshman students from lower-income families make their college choice based on the receipt of generous non-renewable scholarships awarded to graduating high school seniors. The crisis necessitating a transfer comes in the spring, when it becomes apparent that grants and scholarships will not be sufficient for the next year's increased costs. Particularly in this economy, with such severe reductions in scholarship funding because of reduced investment returns for private and public foundations, our son will likely join the ranks of those who are forced to leave their dream school because they are not willing or able to take on significant debt in order to stay.

    As someone far removed from the academic research, but living in the midst of this dilemma, I would offer two very radical propositions: 1) Promotion of a change in the award process that spreads funding over the entire college career, rather than offering false hope with disproportionately large freshman scholarships; and 2) Elimination of resident and non-resident tuition - equalize funding across all public institutions, offering students the opportunity to experience independence, new cultures and surroundings without states attempting to "own" their students with the ridiculous belief that they will lose talent and tax-payers if these young people are allowed to spread their wings at the most opportune time in their lives.

    Having now parented two college students, one who attended school across town and another 500 miles away, I can attest to the value of putting some distance between a student and home. Offering high school seniors an unlimited choice of locations only serves as another means of opening the world to them, most especially those whose economic situation has not permitted such experiences previously.

  • Posted by Jan Thompson-Wilda , Associate Professor of Student Development at Oakton Community College on April 21, 2009 at 11:00am EDT
  • I appreciate the discussion above, and I wonder if Dr. Goldrick-Rab might comment on the following:

    1. As a sociologist, is there research that provides evidence that high school students are expressing a goal of earning a bachelor's degree because that is a cultural norm now for all students, rather than expressing interest in career programs right from the beginning of their decision making about higher education? As a teacher and counselor at a community college, it is more common for me to hear from my tradtional age students that getting a bachelor's degree is the desired goal as opposed to earning a certificate or associate's degree in a career field. If there is evidence that cultural norms are influencing students to articulate a bachelor's degree as the goal, then perhaps the lower graduation rates are a reflection of how experience and maturity have lead students to rethinking their goals given their interests, skills, values, temperaments, etc.

    2. Do you have any plans to follow the participants into the future? Again, as a community college counselor I have also had the experience of working with many returning students who come back to school in their late 20s, 30s, and on, and often their self report is that they just weren't ready to go to college right out of high school, for many reasons. Your study relates parents' levels of education as a significant factor, but I would be curious to know if those same students, as they mature into early and middle adulthood, are the ones who return to school eventually.

    Thanks again for this interesting discussion.

  • Data doesn't preclude the decision being financial
  • Posted by Gretchen DeHart , Academic Coordinator at Community College of Vermont on April 21, 2009 at 3:00pm EDT
  • I think though, even if it is about struggling in the first year, that reverse transfer can still be about money because the rationale of students, and perhaps more importantly their families, may be that it is better to struggle at an institution that costs less than one that costs more. I think to say that it is because they struggle that they transfer, and not money, makes it seem as though community colleges are easier. And we know this isn't the case, which surprises many a reverse transfer when they come here.

  • Reverse transfer: student comments
  • Posted by J. Johnson , International Student Affairs Advisor at Crowder College on April 24, 2009 at 7:15pm EDT
  • As an advisor at a community college, I often hear student's reasons for "reverse transfer" to our small community college. Although we are only hearing what they want us to hear and possibly this might not always be the real truth, often we hear that students were unhappy with the lack of support they received at the nearby four-year university(ies) up the road. The personalized touch that we provide and the support services are often heard about through the grapevine and reach these students convincing them there ARE alternatives to starting out at a four-year university.