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June 3, 2009

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ATLANTA -- Higher education's love-hate relationship with college rankings was on full display here this week at the annual forum of the Association for Institutional Research, where -- despite the continuing campaign by some campus presidents to marginalize rankings -- campus number crunchers were treated/subjected to at least a half-dozen sessions on the subject.

As is common at this gathering of self-described wonks, some of the sessions (like the one on using Microsoft Excel to adjust raw rankings data) were practical to the point of being arcane, but most aimed to defend, dissect or debunk them. Officials from U.S. News & World Report and the Times Higher Education Supplement were on hand to tell the men and women who in many cases are responsible for submitting information about their campuses how their rankings were evolving and what might be coming down the road, for instance. In another session, researchers from Michigan State and Pennsylvania State Universities examined a decade's worth of U.S. News results to show how little change there was in colleges' performance in the rankings' controversial "reputational" score, and that what movement did occur was tied mostly to changes in the selectivity of their student bodies.

One session, however, revealed more than any other the extent to which the rankings, for all the protestations to the contrary, influence colleges' behavior. A presentation by Catherine Watt, the former institutional researcher and now a staff member at Clemson University, laid bare in a way that is usually left to the imagination the steps that Clemson has (rather brazenly) taken since 2001 to move from 38th to 22nd in U.S. News's ranking of public research universities. (Note: This paragraph has been altered to correct Watt's current position at Clemson.)

This was no accident. When President James F. Barker took over the South Carolina institution in 2001, he vowed in his initial interview to move Clemson into the top 20 (a distinction that many research universities covet, but few can achieve, given that most of those already in the top 20 aren't eager to relinquish their spots). Although many people on the campus were skeptical, Clemson has pursued the goal almost single-mindedly, seeking to "affect -- I'm hesitating to use the word 'manipulate,' " Watt said -- "every possible indicator to the greatest extent possible." She added: "It is the thing around which almost everything revolves for the president’s office."

That statement was among the first at Watt's session that provoked murmurs of discomfort (and more) from the audience -- there would be many more as she described the various steps Clemson had taken to alter its profile in order to improve its U.S. News standing. Watt, director of the Alliance for Research on Higher Education at Clemson's Strom Thurmond Institute of Government and Public Affairs, subtly made clear her own discomfort with Clemson's approach.

The easiest moves, she said, revolved around class size: Clemson has significantly increased the proportion of its classes with fewer than 20 students, one key U.S. News indicator of a strong student experience. While Clemson has always had comparatively small class sizes for a public land-grant university, it has focused, Watt said, on trying to bump sections with 20 and 25 students down to 18 or 19, but letting a class with 55 rise to 70. "Two or three students here and there, what a difference it can make," she said. "It's manipulation around the edges."

Clemson has also transformed its admissions standards, more or less ceasing to admit full-time, first-time undergraduates who are not in the top third of their high school classes, and constantly re-assessing its SAT average throughout the admissions cycle, Watt said, so that admissions officials know whether they "have to increase the SAT score in the next round" of students.

Bringing about other changes has been harder, Watt continued, as she described what she called the "more questionable aspects of what we’ve done." The university has ratcheted up the faculty salaries it reports to U.S. News by about $20,000, which it has achieved by actually increasing spending (paid for largely through increased tuition) and by altering the way it relays the data to the magazine's editors. Clemson folded its benefit payments into the average faculty pay figure it reports to U.S. News, requiring the institutional research office to produce several different definitions of faculty pay for U.S. News, the American Association of University Professors and other surveys, Watt said. (Clarifying Clemson's approach after the panel for a reporter and an interested Robert Morse, director of data research for U.S. News's college rankings, Watt said that the university had added benefits to its faculty salary reporting to U.S. News after previously having failed to do so, as the magazine requires. So its jump came not from double counting or including information that it should not have, but from playing catchup.)

In reporting institutional financial information to the magazine, she said, Clemson runs "multiple definitions to figure out where we can move things around to make them look best" in the rankings. Academic expenditures are emphasized and administrative overhead minimized wherever possible, within reason, she said. The university has encouraged as many alumni as possible to send in at least $5 to help bring up their giving rate, and hired a firm to find disconnected alumni.

And to actual gasps from some members of the audience, Watt said that Clemson officials, in filling out the reputational survey form for presidents, rate "all programs other than Clemson below average," to make the university look better. "And I'm confident my president is not the only one who does that," Watt said.

Taken together, the changes have had an impact on numerous U.S. News indicators: the proportion of freshmen who were in the top 10 percent of their high school class has risen to 42 from 34 percent; student to faculty ratio has dropped to 14:1 from 16:1; the retention rate of freshmen has climbed to 89 from 82 percent and the graduation rate to 78 from 72 percent. And as those last few results show, Watt said, many of the changes Clemson has made have helped students.

But many of the administrators and data analysts in the audience were clearly troubled by Watt's description of Clemson's approach, especially as she pointed out that the university has grown more exclusive (fewer than 10 percent of its undergraduates are first-generation college students) and has "favored merit over access in a poor state," sending tuitions rising."To me it’s a little unsettling what you’re doing," said one audience member. "You had a perfectly good institution" before.

“We have been criticized for not fulfilling the mission of a public land-grant institution,” Watt responded. But "we have gotten really good press. We have walked the fine line between illegal, unethical, and really interesting.”

"You're pandering," said another, who was especially troubled by the idea that the university would produce multiple versions of its salary data. "It can be confusing, uninformative, hard to keep straight, and I've always been very vigilant about not doing that. It's a very dangerous activity," the administrator said. "How can you possibly justify doing that?" he asked Watt.

"To do anything else is not an option," she said.

"You mean you're just following orders?" the questioner asked.

"Yes." (A spokeswoman for Clemson did not respond to e-mail messages late Tuesday seeking a response to that assertion.)

Not everyone was troubled. "I love" your approach -- "it's pragmatic and forthright," said another audience member. "It's so common [for colleges] to ignore U.S. News, and yet when they drop, they complain."

Watt admitted at several points in the presentation that she was trying to contain her own "cynicism" about her institution's approach, but she also recounted a comment that a colleague had made to her at breakfast Tuesday, when they were discussing her upcoming session and Clemson's aggressive approach to rising in the rankings. "People don’t have this as their official vision," she quoted her colleague as saying, "but by God it’s their unofficial vision."

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  • Pitchfork Ben would approve
  • Posted by Dexter Alexander , Retired IR/IE Dean at Southern Border State Community College on June 3, 2009 at 7:30am EDT
  • Two observations about Clemson's metric creativity: First, Pitchfork Ben Tillman would approve; and, second, Clemson's action provides proof of my definition of IR/IE's mission,,,"Providing validity to dubious data."

  • joke
  • Posted by prof on June 3, 2009 at 7:45am EDT
  • Trying to validate the true worth of college ranking systems is akin to attempting to drink coffee with a fork. The "manipulation of class size" strategy is a perfect example of something that helps strengthen US News and World ranking while possibly weakening educational quality. College rankings...what a joke. The folks at US News & World must have quite a laugh imagining these supposedly brilliant academic leaders falling all over themselves to gain a spot in the finals of their annual beauty contest. No wonder an increasing number of folks are skeptical about the direction of our higher education system...with this as a measuring stick who can blame them?

  • if 20-30 presidents would step up...
  • Posted by mjd1pa , IR director on June 3, 2009 at 8:45am EDT
  • We all love to whine about these rankings -- but imagine if the presidents of, say, all the Ivy, Big Ten and Pac 10 universities jointly agreed not to play. Wouldn't the credibility of the USN&WR data evaporate?

  • Response to Dexter Alexander's comment
  • Posted by Christine on June 3, 2009 at 9:00am EDT
  • As an institutional researcher, I am highly offended by Dexter Alexander's comment: 'Clemson's action provides proof of my definition of IR/IE's mission,,,"Providing validity to dubious data."' I've left a position because LEADERSHIP (NOT IR) wanted IR to "bend the truth" and the data/information that was being reported to accrediting agencies.

  • Posted by Harley on June 3, 2009 at 9:00am EDT
  • The name Barker is also an appropriate descriptor ("a person who advertises by hawking at the entrance to a show") for the Clemson behavior.

  • lies, damn lies, and statistics
  • Posted by DS on June 3, 2009 at 9:00am EDT
  • Congratulations on your spin doctoring award, Clemson. Did you bother to do any institutional research to show that any of this actually resulted in better educated students? Oh, I forgot...USN&WR doesn't care about such trivialities. But I bet your marketing campaigns all highlight this, as do your tuition increases.

    One can only hope that one of the silver linings to the current economic situation we're in is that we'll see the death of the type of EZ-form perceived prestige that USN&WR promotes, and that students and families will start to judge and select colleges based on value indicators more meaningful than the same type of rating and ranking systems used in other magazines for microwaves or cell phones.

  • Up in rankings, down in reality
  • Posted by Clemson Faculty at Clemson on June 3, 2009 at 9:00am EDT
  • While Clemson's ranking climbs, sadly the actual quality of education at our University is in decline, heading toward free fall. It's a sad, sad thing.

    The reality behind the number manipulation is far worse. Thanks to a lack of funding from the state and the misplaced priorities of the administration the university is in real trouble that the US News survey isn't going to capture. Class sizes soared in the Spring semester because only Fall data is required for US News. Five day furloughs were imposed on all employees. Dozens of proposed faculty lines were suspended or canceled. Curriculum requirements are being dropped left and right because there's no money to fund the instruction. The overall mood is somewhere between demoralized and defeated.

    I'd say I'm glad that this shell game is finally being exposed to a larger audience and some well-deserved shame can rain down on the administration except that I'm pretty certain they're beyond shaming.

  • Clemson is doing the Lord's work here
  • Posted by Rich on June 3, 2009 at 9:00am EDT
  • Let's face it--this is the only way these silly rankings will lose credibility. Boycotts will be seen as sour-grapes. But if every institution starts forthrightly gaming the system as Clemson has done, the ratings will come to be seen for what they are; the spurious measurement of epiphenomena.

  • Watt: Proof that the Empereror is Naked
  • Posted by Mark at Montgomery Educational Consulting on June 3, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • Kudos to Watt--and to Clemson--for having the cojones too lay bare the fact that the US News rankings are data points masquerading as useful information. Obviously this data can be massaged: I did it myself as a young associate dean once upon a time. I applaud Clemson and President Barker for demonstrating that despite what administrators say in public ("oh, my, no, we don't care about those silly rankings") is quite different from how they behave back at the office ("let's massage the data to make ourselves look better").

    Now I just wish alternative and more useful quality comparisosn existed--systems that were really different--that would help consumers like my clients pick the best school for them. Just today I'll be dealing with a client who is complaining that the schools on her college list are "too far down the league tables." The problem is that this popularity contest of the US News rankings continues to reinforce itself to the point that that no one can break free and think about alternative ways to measure the quality of an institution.

    One last thing: professors who say that the quality of education cannot be measured have their heads in the sand (or perhaps somewhere else.). While the systems created by No Child Left Behind are certainly imperfect in enabling us to compare one K-12 school against another, at least we're on the road to learning something interesting about Amerian primary and secondary education. Perhaps more states should apply K-12 standards and assess learning outcomes in higher education?

    Mark Montgomery
    Independent College Counselor
    http://GreatCollegeAdvice.com

  • Walking the line
  • Posted by lcl on June 3, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • "We have walked the fine line between illegal, unethical, and really interesting.”

    While I think the majority of what they are doing only proves how silly the whole ranking system is, I don't see how you can blatantly state that all other programs are "below average" and not confess that you crossed the line of unethical.

    Even aside from the mathematical problem such a claim would raise, they clearly know that their claim is not true for at least some other programs. Fie on the leadership at Clemson for advocating out-and-out lying to get ahead. If they want to sell this bit in any other way then they are lying to themselves as well as to us.

    Moreover, I think USN&WR has some obligation to exclude this data from their calculations, particularly now that they have been specifically told that it is bogus. The fact that it doesn't seem to have raised any red flags for them up til now is troubling.

    I am not sure if it would be funny, or just equally unethical, for other institutions to assess punishment by banding together and intentionally torpedoing Clemson's reputation score the next time around.

  • Bravo!
  • Posted by Piano Man , Institutional Research on June 3, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • Kudos to Ms. Watt...

    Some salient observations from another institutional researcher.

    1. Amused by all the righteous rantings of the session attendees and in several of these comments. Methinks though dost protest too much.

    2. Utterly missing from the article is the truism that US News exists only because institutions refuse to provide this information themselves, in a format that they value. As for mjd1pa's comments -- yes, if 20-30 top-ranked schools withdrew, that might serve to make the "beauty contest" more of a multiparty system. Of course, when you see the crap that will fill the void left behind, US News suddenly does not look so bad. I'd rather do battle with a familiar enemy with a reasonably clear methodology than engage in guerrilla tactics with a dozen competitors with opaque methodologies. US News actually provides a very useful foil for making the case for indicators that DO matter.

    3. Also Dexter Alexander's comments are unwarranted. The institutional researchers that I know are the only reason the data sent in to US News are as accurate as they are, and that often comes a great political and personal expense, which can be job-threatening. And by the way, most of us don't have tenure. It's pretty telling that this presentation had to be made by a FORMER institutional researcher, and current faculty member. Talk about scapegoating -- how about supporting your institutional researcher rather than treating them as part of the problem? Better yet, how about tenured faculty step up and take some heat on this? Oh wait, I forgot, it FACULTY salaries that are part of the rankings model, not administrative salaries...

  • Barker-ing up the wrong tree
  • Posted by David Davis-Van Atta , Director of IR at Vassar College on June 3, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • Yes, it is a kind of joke. A joke on Clemson and its president actually. A sad one too. All their effort, and outright (shameless) manipulation (NOT on the part of IR BTW, #!; as others noted, on the part of leadership). And for what? Nothing. All the data I've looked at indicate that there will be precious little, and probably zero, positive affects (on Clemson's admissions). Anyone can do this study, even Clemson could have checked this out beforehand. It would have been a better use of IR's time there. Take the US News ranking data year by year for, say, the last 10 years. More if you like, for whatever group of schools one is interested in. It's all in the public domain, very easily done. Then for each school in each matching year, record the size of its applicant pool. E.g., data from college guidebooks. Then compute each year-to-year change in each school's ranking (e.g., up by two ranks this year, down by one the next, etc.; simple subtractions). Do the same for (percentage) change in the applicant pool - applicant pool grew by x%, or shrunk by y%. Finally then, examine the effect of going up in rankings, staying fixed, and going down, on the size of the next year's applicant pool (i.e,. the correlation between change in ranking and subsequent change in the applicant pool). You will find that there isn't any. Anyone can do the study, it's good science, the experiment is replicable. It would be my contention (I think reasonable, although not proven, yet!) that if US News rankings do not affect applicant behaviors they don't affect anything else either. US News rankings are a visibility and reputational effect, particularly tailored and timed for the start of the college application season.

    So Clemson's Barker is just wasting his institution's time and efforts. And probably its resources. As others ntoed, resources that coudl go into the educational program for its students. And so is any other school similarly wasting efforts and resources that tries to "go up in the rankings." Far better to hitch your wagon to some other star.

  • Ethical? You decide....
  • Posted by Not Strictly Amused on June 3, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • From the AIR Code of Ethics

    SECTION IV - RELATIONSHIPS TO THE COMMUNITY

    IV (a) Equal Treatment. The institutional researcher shall promote equal access and opportunity regarding employment, services, and other activities of his/her office, without regard to race, creed, gender, national origin, disability or other accidental quality; and in analysis, demeanor, and expression shall be alert to the sensitivities of groups and individuals.

    IV (b) Development of Local Codes of Ethics. The institutional researcher should develop and promulgate a code of ethics specific to the mission and tasks of the institutional research office and should strive to cooperate with fellow practitioners in the institution in developing an institution-wide code of ethics governing activities in common. The institutional researcher should take reasonable steps to ensure that his/her employers are aware of ethical obligations as set forth in the AIR Code of Ethics and of the implications of those obligations for work practice.

    IV (c) Custody and Archiving. The institutional researcher shall apply all reasonable means to prevent irrevocable loss of data and documentation during its immediately useful life; and, being aware of the role of data as institutional historic resource, shall act as an advocate for its documentation and systematic permanent archiving.

    IV (d) Assessment of Institutional Research. The institutional researcher shall develop and implement regular assessment tools for the evaluation of institutional research services.

    IV (e) Institutional Confidentiality. The institutional researcher shall maintain in strict confidence and security all information in his/her possession about the institution or any of its constituent parts which by institutional policy is considered to be confidential, and shall pursue from Section III of this Code all processes for that purpose as are appropriate.

    IV (f) Integrity of Reports. The institutional researcher shall make efforts to anticipate and prevent misunderstandings and misuse of reports within the institution by careful presentation and documentation in original reports, and by diligent follow-up contact with institutional users of those reports. If an institutional research report has been altered, intentionally or inadvertently, to the degree that its meaning has been substantially distorted, the institutional researcher shall make reasonable attempts to correct such distortions and/or to insist that institutional research authorship be removed from the product.

    IV (g) External Reporting. The institutional researcher has an obligation to the broader community to submit and/or report accurate data and professionally responsible interpretive material when requested by legitimate authority, including federal, state, and other governmental agencies and accrediting bodies. With respect to private inquiries, such as those from guidebook editors, journalists, or private individuals, the institutional researcher, should he/she respond, is bound by the same standards of accuracy, confidentiality, and professionally responsible interpretation.

    SECTION V - RELATIONSHIPS TO THE CRAFT

    V (a) Research Responsibilities.

    V (b) Integrity of the Profession. The institutional researcher should work toward the maintenance and promotion of high standards of practice.

    V (c) False Accusations. Institutional researchers shall take care not to falsely demean the reputation or unjustly or unfairly criticize the work of other institutional researchers.

    V (d) Incompetence of Colleagues. Institutional researchers who have direct knowledge of a colleague’s incompetence should consult with that colleague when feasible and assist the colleague in taking remedial action.

    V (e) Unethical Conduct of Colleagues.

    Adopted by AIR membership 12/18/92
    Updates Approved by the AIR Board 12/14/01

  • A better idea
  • Posted by Hegelvon on June 3, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • I don't know what all this has fancy footwork has cost Clemson in dollars and opportunity cost, but I do know of a private university at which the trustees examined the cost of restructuring to meet US News standards for a post position about 10 places up the line, and determined that they could buy US News for less and then set up standards (proximity to the Canadian border, for example) that would vault them to number one with less muss and fuss.

  • Posted by Chris , Director, IR/IE on June 3, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • It bears mention that during this James Barker was also the Chair/Presdient of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools.

  • US News is a bully
  • Posted by Katherine Jackson , Associate Dean at Truman State University on June 3, 2009 at 11:00am EDT
  • When I first received one of US New’s reputation rankings I saw the manipulation possibilities and was incredulous that they thought I knew the reputation of hundreds of schools. The whole survey is based on guess work as I know the reputation of only a handful of schools other than the obvious and even those are based on antecdotal evidence or my own perceptions. I refused to participate because the only self-serving choice was to rank my school high and fill in a few with my antecdotal information and either leave out the rest or rank everyone else below my school. I got several iterations of the survey sent to me and when I did not respond I got an email from them saying that they were going to rat me out to my dean for my nonparticipation. This strong-arm tactic only served to reinforce my distaste for such surveys and helped make it clear that their interest in measuring the true value of the education offered at colleges and universities across the nation was not their mission.

  • numerical rankings are not automatically objective
  • Posted by MathProf on June 3, 2009 at 11:00am EDT
  • #1 always comes before #10.  That's an objective fact.  But the process of deciding who is #1 and who is #22 is fraught with subjectivity and disagreement over which measures are important and which aren't.  And playing to the statistical measures is a natural response when the numerical rankings are so important.

    “The more any quantitative social indicator is used for social decision making,” wrote the social psychologist Donald Campbell in 1975, “the more subject it will be to corruption pressures and the more apt it will be to distort and corrupt the social processes it is intended to monitor.”  This doesn't mean we shouldn't try to find quantitative indicators; it does mean that we should be suspicious of the conclusion that "because it's quantitative it has to be objective."

    I would applaud a serious academic endeavor whose goal was to find quantitative measures that reflected the quality of institutions of higher education.  A commercial magazine -- whose sales would plummet if they found a measure that worked well and therefore provided essentially the same rankings every year -- is not such an endeavor.

  • Rank
  • Posted by DFS on June 3, 2009 at 12:15pm EDT
  • Why rank? It's all so rank, anyway -- the rankness we all must deal with, from such rank opportunists, rank speculators, ranking institutions doling out their ranking of actually rank standings, etc.

    This merely ranks among the worse rankings I have ever seen!

    How does all of this rank crap rank among your (rank?) opinions?

    Let's just rank it, perhaps from #10 to #1. I guess Dave Letterman can then just give us his usual rank humor while presenting this.

  • Research shows USN rankings don't differentiate schools
  • Posted by Joe Brennan, Ph.D. , Associate Vice President, University Communications at University at Buffalo on June 3, 2009 at 12:15pm EDT
  • U.S. News rankings do a poor job of actually differentiating between schools. The magazine's system focuses on a small number of variables that don't encompass the full array of factors explaining differences between schools.

    My colleagues and I published a study in 2007 documenting our findings:
    http://pdfserve.informaworld.com/422659_751318628_902227071.pdf

  • mendacity
  • Posted by bystander , At large at N/A on June 3, 2009 at 1:45pm EDT
  • My compliments to Prof. Watt for the honesty of her presentation. It seems to have revealed the truth of Clemson's tactics. These tactics may be dishonest, or even meritricious, but are they more so than USNWR's claim to provide a meaningful of rank colleges and universities?

  • Just rambling...
  • Posted by Clemson is still a good school , N/A at Clemson University on June 3, 2009 at 1:45pm EDT
  • Im glad that Watt has revealed the falacies of the system. However, Im surprised that no one has brought up the fact that other universities are doing much of the same. Everyone knows that if a university has a goal to improve its ranking, they are working to find ways to make it happen. Watt proved this herself when she indicated that her president wasnt the only one manipulating the system. Is Clemson doing everything ethically - maybe not. If they are'nt, they should fix it. I'm a Clemson alum and while I disagree with some of what Clemson has done to achieve this ranking, most of it has changed the university for the better. During my tenure as a student the campus improved drastically in ways other than classroom size for example (which I didnt notice). The technology in the classroom and on campus skyrocketed. Improvements were made to buildings, athletic facilities, and yes even professor salaries. But while my tuition went up every single year I attended to pay for all of this, my tuition costs were 1/4 of what you would pay at a northern school where you get half the educational and social experiences that Clemson offers.

    Maybe instead of making the goal to "be a top 20 program" according to some stupid magazine, Clemson could aim to be the best program they can be. Then they can set their own rules and goals and don't have to waste resources achiveing ridiculous metrics that could potentially hurt the students eductional experiences. Go Tigers.

  • The Truth at Last
  • Posted by ClemTeacher , Asst. Prof/E&S at Clemson on June 3, 2009 at 3:00pm EDT
  • Ms. Watt, the faculty at Clemson owe you a big thanks for having the courage to present the facts about Clemson and its obsession with gaming the US News rankings. Millions of dollars have been squandered in this meaningless effort. During the past 10 years faculty and staff have watched the quality of education decrease. Good faculty left in disgust, science labs are woefully outdated, and "Smart classrooms" are anything but. But millions were directed to flashy brochures about Clemson, new branding techniques, and to academic success activities for students with high SAT scores to increase retention and graduation rates only to improve rankings. Many of us are also aware that inaccurate data was submitted to US News. Most of the faculty are sick of hearing President Barker's litany that we are # 22 in US News and # 8 in this and #10th in that. We know that the "hard" data like the amount of federal research dollars, number scholarly articles cited, and major academic awards for faculty and students have not changed. Now we are in the midst of an economic crisis and major budget cuts to the university and as another person commented the University is in a free fall. It is so sad that so much time, money and effort was wasted on the equivalent of winning the swim suit competition in a beauty contest.

  • Rambling on
  • Posted by Dubious Northerner on June 3, 2009 at 3:15pm EDT
  • "my tuition costs were 1/4 of what you would pay at a northern school where you get half the educational and social experiences that Clemson offers."

    This is the kind of free-floating, content-free assertion through which USN&WR can ply its trade. Like the BCS, USN&WR thrives on the tension and controversy of having no single, legitimate national championship for universities in competition. Some people, maybe a lot of people, would say it's ludicrous to suggest that one of the great private 'northern schools' charging a high tuition is only providing 'half the educational and social experiences' offered at a large, public, semi-rural place like Clemson. They might argue that their experiences were something greater than 50%. For example, their average class sizes were smaller, their personal experiences with other faculty and students richer, their access to cultural and intellectual discussions deeper, and the range and quality of their classmates who are now lifelong friends and networking associates greater. But it's all opinion! So if you loved painting tiger paws on your face and getting stumbling drunk on the way to the stadium every Saturday, so that you could get your business degree five years later on the way to a rewarding career selling life insurance, living in the Pee Dee, saving up for a used BMW and voting for Bush...hey--more power to you...

  • Posted by Saddened Tiger on June 3, 2009 at 3:15pm EDT
  • While I certainly applaud Ms. Watt for laying out the truth as she did, why did she agree to play in this game at all? If something was unethical, she should not participate, or at the very least address the concerns with President Barker and follow through with notifying the magazine of what's being done. Otherwise, you're guilty by association. It's like they say with voting.....if you don't vote, don't complain....same applies here. She can't participate for all this time and now, all of a sudden, because perhaps something didn't go her way, she's speaking out. What took so long? People have got to stop being so fearful and quiet, and stand up for what's right. We see it all the time in government, but people look the other way......stop letting leaders get away with immoral behavior. Our country was founded on Christian principles and God help us if the immoral succeed in ridding us of all moral code. What negative can be found in holding everyone to a moral code? None! If we don't stop letting these "leaders" move us toward further immorality, the country will soon be in the gutter with no hope of escape.

    I really hope she considered the potential detrimental consequences to such a fine school. I imagine she could've handled this a little differently and saved the school this disgrace. She's making it sound like a horrible place, when it is one of the most beautiful and wonderful places I've ever been. You rarely hear of anyone leaving because they're unhappy, even in a small town environment. Not one alumni that I know would trade anything for their education and experience from Clemson. So, I hope that this doesn't put a sour taste in people's mouths for Clemson, but instead refocuses the faculty on doing the right things and being the best they can be. GO TIGERS!!!!

    Devoted Clemson Tiger!

  • And the drama of the comments themselves reinforce. . .
  • Posted by Warren312 , Senior Associate at Institute for Higher Education Policy on June 3, 2009 at 4:00pm EDT
  • . . .the judgment that the whole rankings show belongs on the sports pages. It does nothing for students, but a lot for insecure administrators and some alumni seeking self-justification.

  • Just the facts
  • Posted by Martine LaBerge, Ph.D., F.B.S.E. , Professor and Chair of Bioengineering at Clemson University on June 3, 2009 at 4:00pm EDT
  • The information presented in this article was extracted from an Institutional Research Conference. The facts stated should have been verified before publication. Additionally, what has been printed and what Catherine Watt said are irrelevant to facts and have little to do with research.

    Catherine Watt said that Clemson is only concerned with attaining a high score from US News. Yet, everyday she has to walk beside the construction site of our new Bioengineering Building. It is a $12M investment. Yet, it has nothing to do with US News rankings.

    I’m sure Catherine also knows a lot about our new research campus in Greenville dedicated to automotive engineering graduate education and research. It is probably Clemson’s biggest investment in recent years with more than $200M. Yet, it has nothing to do with US News rankings.

    How about Clemson’s investment in IT capabilities? This is another example, yet having nothing to do with US News rankings, of dedicated and superlative investment that have taken our supercomputing capabilities among the highest in the country. That was done to increase faculty and student research capability.

    Clemson’s administration has worked diligently in the past 10 years to achieve the recognition Clemson University deserves. It provides an utmost environment for integrating knowledge and preparing our students to fulfill outstanding careers. It provides the highest level of creative thinking, learning, and innovation. And, we are very proud of that. Attaining a high magazine ranking is something that all universities in the United States seek. However, facts are checked by US News.

    Since President Barker has taken office, we are more focused and as a result we have better students, our faculty salary and benefits are more competitive, our classes are smaller, our graduation and retention rates are better and our research expenditures are higher. These accomplishments clearly have not been mentioned by Catherine, or perhaps, omitted in this article.

    As a department chair, I take part in the US News survey and rank other bioengineering departments. I rank other programs based entirely on my knowledge of them. I know my colleagues do the same. We are professionals and would never do anything else.

  • The Real Clemson
  • Posted by John Ballato , Professor at Clemson University on June 3, 2009 at 4:30pm EDT
  • My name is John Ballato and I had the great honor and privilege to serve the Clemson University faculty for 3 years as the Faculty Representative to the Board of Trustees. During my term, which ended this past December, I participated in many very frank and open discussions with faculty, staff, and administration, including closed Trustee retreats, about strategies and tactics.

    My first comment in response to this article is to make abundantly clear that Ms. Watt is not the voice of the faculty, staff, or students at Clemson. At best, she (and the un-named "Truth At Last" author) represent a vocal minority, but a minority none-the-less.

    Secondly, and unlike the other Clemson employees contributing to this dialog, being a first-hand participant as a representative of the faculty in institutional strategic planning I can say without reservation that the focus was always on quality - quality of faculty, staff, students, and facilities - that has driven Clemson's efforts. Clemson's growth in US News rankings is a result of the hard decisions that have been made on where resources should be invested and not a result of chasing a US News number. Anyone who thinks Clemson's focus is not on the students and faculty are out of touch. It needs to be kept in mind that we live in a State that is not committed to higher education and the state institutions have seen a disproportional cut in funding. Furloughs, deferred hiring, reduced travel are unfortunate but necessary evils when many of our sister schools around the country are laying off faculty. Times are tough but there is no better job than a tenured faculty member where one has the luxury to spend time putting down the very institution that is working hard to keep them in a job.

    Thirdly, during this Top-20 period, Clemson's SAT scores have grown greatly, sponsored research awards have tripled, we have more spin-off companies creating higher wage jobs than ever before and we are more focused on our mission rather than deviating from it to pursue a number.

    Along this lines, it is worth noting that, as a Professor, I also have been the largest generator of research funds at Clemson over the past 6 years at least, among the top in scholarly output (publications and citations), have spun out a successful company, all while teaching my classes and graduating students. I see considerably better students now than we did 10 years ago and Clemson's investment in our programs are growing, not declining; another clear indication that resources are being targeted towards where the greatest productivity lies. For those more disgruntled, I suspect that it is because productivity does not warrant investment.

    Lastly, I am amazed that Inside Higher Ed and the Chronicle of Higher Education would write an article using purely anecdotal accusations without permitting the administration time (more than a late Tuesday night email for a Wednesday AM article) to respond in kind or contacting faculty, staff, or student representatives for their comments. This level of journalism is more expected from the likes of People Magazine or the National Inquirer.

  • Prof. LeBerge - symptom of the rot
  • Posted by Clemson Faculty at Clemson on June 3, 2009 at 4:30pm EDT
  • It's sad, but not surprising to find a department chair so thoroughly drinking the Clemson administration Kool-Aid.

    Notice how little that Professor LeBerge touts has anything to do with what's happening in the undergraduate classroom in terms of instruction. Undergraduates don't sniff the inside of that automotive research center (funded by BMW and Michelin). It's a big investment for the glossy brochures that are so impressive in getting the word out for those reputation surveys.

    200 million available for our corporate offshoot, meanwhile five days of furlough for the people who do the educating and all faculty searches outside of endowed chairs canceled.

    Clemson pride doesn't mean sticking one's head in the sand or killing the messenger. The university priorities are out of whack and have been for a long long time.

  • Posted by sam on June 3, 2009 at 5:30pm EDT
  • As a member of the Clemson community this article outrages me. There is no fact to back up what is said, while claiming that the University is this terrible place run by terrible people. It is sickening to see people attack a university like this, because Clemson has done everything in its power to try and improve it for the good of the students. The priorities are with the students and not with the rankings. Clemson lowering class sizes is smart, not playing to the US News rankings. The amount of funding and research that has developed over the last decade is great, and the reason why the University is in trouble financially this past year is because the Stats has cut its funding from 200 million down to 79 million in less than a year. Clemson is known for being a school that runs quite well, and the improvement in the quality of students has been clear. Rising amounts of applications each year signal that the University is doing something right. President Barker is not some businessman, he is a Clemson alum with a love for the school. By setting a benchmark for Clemson to improve in a measurable way is only done so we can reflect on the progress made. Current faculty have reason to angry about the furlong from last semester, but they should be mad at the state, not the University. Reading something like this article kills me inside, and sets a bad reputation to those who don't know the facts. Maybe next time someone could understand whats going on at Clemson, before making it the scapegoat for a silly University rankings system.

  • Posted by Engineering Prof at Clemson University on June 3, 2009 at 6:15pm EDT
  • I find this article to be outrageous -- it smacks of a disgruntled employee and not objectivity. Is Clemson’s administration and faculty mindful of the US News and World Report rankings? Absolutely. Is it the primary motivator behind all decisions? Absolutely not. The vast majority of Clemson faculty, administrators, and staff that I know are loyal, ethical, and extraordinarily dedicated to the mission of Clemson and our students. The charge of unethical behavior by the administration while clearly not understanding the process for reporting of data shows that Dr. Watt does not have her facts straight and her description of Clemson’s methodology is suspect.

    The factors that drive the USN&WR rankings are the things that we needed to pay attention to anyway. The academic side of Clemson has never been good at selling itself, and we’ve finally started getting the word out about how good Clemson really is. Is there anything wrong with having better quality students, increased retention, and lower student/faculty ratios? The Clemson I know works very hard to provide the best possible education for our students – all of them – in spite of serious shortfalls in state funding and other challenges. Clemson has transitioned itself in a relatively short time from being primarily an undergraduate teaching institution to a national-caliber research university. Our students, our state, and our nation have benefitted greatly from this. There are some faculty and staff that do not like change, and have not weathered the transition well. Perhaps Dr. Watt is one of them. A research university plays a significant role in the economy and quality of life for the citizens of our state and region, especially in a state like South Carolina. Clemson’s administration has done the right things for the right reasons. We’ve paid attention to the things that matter for our students and our constituents. The rise in the USN&WR rankings shows the results. We are all better for it.

    You probably think I've been drinking the Clemson KoolAid too. I've taken the furlough like everyone else. I've taken on more students and more responsibilities during these tough budget times, just like many others. I get frustrated just like everyone. I don't agree with all of the decisions that are made, nor do I understand the big picture. I've had many opportunities to leave and build a career elsewhere. But, on the whole, Clemson is a great place to work, to live, to educate our students, and to participate in building the growth and prosperity of our region and state. Like many, I truly believe that incrementally, I make a difference. I am amazed that so many people can so quickly drink the KoolAid that Dr. Watt is dispensing. I hope that readers will see that she does not represent the university community as a whole, and that the damage that she inflicts is only to herself and not to the thousands of innocent alums, students, faculty, adminstration, and staff.

  • Clemson deserves applause
  • Posted by Michael , Consultant at University on June 3, 2009 at 7:00pm EDT
  • The U.S. News Rankings, like all of the "rankings" of academic institutions, are compiled for the purpose of generating sales.

    Take for instance "Specialty Rankings," which are presented as a list of the best schools at specific disciplines, but in fine print are understood to be prepared from surveys of one representative from participating institutions ranking his/her perception of a program. There is no science here. No statistical significance to any order or sequence produced by U.S. News in their purported "analysis."

    Clemson should be praised for exposing the sham that these rankings are, because let's face it, people use them for decision-making.

    I graduated from several schools that are very high in these rankings, so I have no bitterness about me.

  • To "Clemson Faculty"
  • Posted by Brett Alan , BBS at Clemson University on June 3, 2009 at 9:30pm EDT
  • This is an epic display of cowardice to anonymously bash one's employer via online commentary. Perhaps our contributor could show a display of confidence in these remarks and leave a name. One could assume this opinion was voiced in his/her resignation to Clemson or at least the local pouting group.

    "200 million available for our corporate offshoot, meanwhile five days of furlough for the people who do the educating and all faculty searches outside ofendowed chairs canceled."

    Perfect example of an out of context spin.

    The ICAR corporate partnership was prior to the present funding issues. Cited are the five day furlough and numerous cuts made by Clemson, but at any point is the economy mentioned? Everyone is making sacrifices due to the current circumstances. Clemson, especially being a public funded institution in a poor state, is no different. Nobody wants to hear anymore personal sap stories.

    One can only feel disrespect when their alma mater employs such a cowardice fraud. Demoralized? The Princeton Review mentions Clemson as a place home to some of the happiest students, which I can assert. "It's just a ranking." For certain someone is drinking the "Kool-Aid."

    Few points of note:

    -"Watt said, trying to bump sections with 20 and 25 students down to 18 or 19, but letting a class with 55 rise to 70."
    -A change from 20-25 to 18-19 is much more noticeable than a class change of 55 to 70. Decreasing the size of an intimate classroom has a much greater impact than increasing the size of a lecture, but that would only be assumed by an educated person.
    -Rankings may not matter for some, but to high school seniors and their parents #22 and #38 is the difference between staying in-state or going to a UGA or Florida.

  • Posted by Truth-Seeker on June 3, 2009 at 10:45pm EDT
  • To the fierce defenders of CU, recruited through an email message that went out to faculty earlier in the day, your attempts to shame the reporters of legitimate concerns show your true colors, or lack thereof. You and your ilk are fostering the insidious, retaliatory culture that presently exists at the university. Your attempts to squelch debate are quintessential CU.

    Since you have called for the reporting of facts, let us consider just a few:

    • The Clemson Faculty Senate passed a resolution in 2009 stating that faculty had lost trust in the university administration given massive pay raises to select university administrators. Compensated for their categorical allegiance to the Top 20 “mission,” administrators who received these raises tended to be those closest to university president James Barker and his misguided, if originally well-intentioned, visions for the university. When caught, Barker stated that it was a sign of a great university at work.

    • Despite its best efforts to identify legal loopholes, and the investment of nearly $700,000.00 in attorney fees, the university has failed repeatedly to convince a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit filed against the administration and Board of Trustees by former Board Secretary Eugene Troutman. In his lawsuit, Troutman claims that he was fired for speaking out against excessive administration pay raises as well as unnecessary increases in tuition that resulted in an $80 million unrestricted cash fund. Former financial officer Scott Ludlow corroborated the contentions made by Troutman and said that he, too, was "encouraged" to leave the university because he had not become the “team player” that he needed to become.

    • In 2009 the United States Department of Agriculture launched an investigation into Clemson University and its research involving animals for failure to comply with federal legislation.

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  • Protecting the regime
  • Posted by R1 Prof on June 4, 2009 at 5:15am EDT
  • One can understand that there will be disagreements about this article, but the sheer force that some (including John Ballato and "Martine LaBerge, Ph.D., F.B.S.E") jump in here is surely worth pondering.

    Critics of rankings strategists tend to be viewed as enemies and traitors. Rankings strategies are always about enhancing external validification and standing, not transformation for the sake of enhancing quality and learning outcomes. Speaking out against the regime that supports rankings is a politically sensitive act, but speaking in favour of rankings and the regime in power is not...indeed it currys favour with regime leaders, while concurrently making some points of substance.

    In such a context it is not surprising supporters of Clemson and rankings will identify themselves, while critics will not. Who wants to be accused as a traitor?

  • The "vocal minority"
  • Posted by Former Clemson faculty on June 4, 2009 at 5:15am EDT
  • As a former Clemson faculty who still remembers much about the institution fondly, I take no joy in this discussion. Prof. Ballato's loyalty is admirable, but he exaggerates in saying that the criticism of the administration comes from a "vocal minority, but a minority none-the-less".

    The faculty senate resolution mentioned above that included a reference to a "loss of trust" in the administration was passed not simply by a majority... it was passed unanimously.

    While I don't pretend to know everything about university finance, the weight of the evidence suggests that some things at Clemson are out of the ordinary.

  • Clemson being made example
  • Posted by aGamecock , Acting Director of IR at Eastern Connecticut St U on June 4, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • As an avid fan and alumnus of Clemson's archrival U of South Carolina, I find reason to sympathize with Clemson on this issue. I believe that many schools are mis-prioritizing magazine rankings, making it too big of a deal. As if it constitutes a valid institutional assessment. Clemson is the only one that has been exposed to this extent, so a big example is being made of one school committing the same sin as many.

    It quite reminds me of the Tommy Chaiken steroids article in Sports Illustrated in the 1980s. In this article (to the best of my memory), USC was cast as a football-first, corrupt institution because the football players were given steroids. This is as terrible as it is true. However, it was written as if USC was the only school in the 1980s pumping players with HGH, putting football above academics and student health. It was good to have the problem exposed, but it sucks to be made an example of.

    I thank Catherine Watt for respecting Clemson, public higher education, and the field of institutional research enough to make this bold presentation. I hope this will help American higher education move on from this rankings game and start looking at real 21st Century education issues. I think the Voluntary System of Accountability is a step in the right direction (and Clemson is already on board), and the Bologna Process is something we need to start looking at.

  • Name Change?
  • Posted by The Observer on June 4, 2009 at 1:45pm EDT
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    Years ago at Indiana University, the campus jester suggested that we change the name of the university to Harvard, because that is where everyone wanted a diploma from. I’m open for new names for Clemson.

  • Measure the right thing, and the corruption melts away
  • Posted by Phil Melita , School of Continuing Studies at University of Richmond on June 4, 2009 at 2:00pm EDT
  • A personal observation: as soon as outputs replace inputs as the measurement criteria, manipulating the system will become impossible. Turning out better, smarter, more qualified and job-ready grads will become the only way to rise in the rankings. That's the ultimate student-centric focus, however, so it's unlikely to be accepted widely by entrenched institutions.

  • Posted by Clemson Alum on June 4, 2009 at 3:00pm EDT
  • I enjoy reading Inside Higher Ed and often find the comments to be much more thought-provoking and intelligently-written than those on many websites, but I am quite shocked by how fast the lynch mob turned out on this one. I wrote most of my comments on the June 4 article, so I won't repeat them here, but I do have a few things to address. I find it saddening that Clemson faculty are on here anonymously complaining about furloughs... what other choice did the university have? Lay off a ton of people? I'm sure you'd be complaining more. Now that I've graduated, I work at another university and have also been furloughed. Of course I'm not happy about it, but I also see it as a measure to save my job and agree that it's a drastic measure that had to be taken in order to keep the university running.

    I recommend that everyone waits until ALL the facts have come out, not just the accusations of one person and the anonymous postings of a disgruntled professor. It seems many on here are ready to convict. While in grad school at Clemson, I actually helped collect some of the data on class size, and all I can say is that I was NEVER asked to manipulate data. We went on the EXACT enrollment of each and EVERY section taught that semester.

    Yes, things are bad at Clemson right now, but it has a lot more to do with the economy than anything the administration has done. I keep in touch with many faculty and staff, and was recently on campus myself. Of course I hate to see loved ones furloughed there, but I will adamently say that Clemson is a wonderful place to learn and be challenged. I applaud the Gamecock who had the guts to say that there's nothing wrong here. I find many of the comments on here cowardly... picking on the Pee Dee? Wow, that's low. As a Pee Dee native, of course I know I'm from a place that's rarely defined as sophisticated, but to say that it's not a good life, well, I feel sorry for your arrogant self.

  • The Real Issue
  • Posted by Alcibiades on June 4, 2009 at 9:15pm EDT
  • The unfortunate reality is that for too many enmployers, rankings are a shortcut to actually evaluating potential employees. I graduated from an elite liberal arts college in the Northeast back in 2002, but not one of THE elite lib arts colleges (ie. Williams/Amherst/Bowdoin/Middlebury). I had an above-average GPA and good internships. I found nothing but a year and a half of unemployment. I can not count the number of times I would apply to a consulting firm or financial services company, and would see individual hiring pages for Harvard, Yale, MIT, Williams, and Brown, and a random email address for all other "qualified applicants." So, off I went to a mid-ranked law school. Back in the job market again, I have discovered that in the legal profession, even jobs requiring ten years' experience or more also require you to have gone to a top 25 law school and maintained a 3.5 GPA. So, despite all of the inherent flaws in the rankings, they are incredibly beholden by HR folks in a lot of professions. So beholden, in fact, that someone like myself, who has only ever attended institutions with acceptance rates of 25% or less, can spend several years trying to find even the most menial of jobs and salaries.

  • Cowardice? More like valuable feedback.
  • Posted by TenureTrack , Asst. Prof./CAFLS at Clemson University on June 5, 2009 at 5:30am EDT
  • "This is an epic display of cowardice to anonymously bash one's employer via online commentary." --Brett Alan

    Cowardice? I would expect someone from BBS to be familiar with the idea of employers punishing employees who act as whistleblowers. Denial of tenure? Denial of resources required for scholarly success (lab space, students, equipment, etc.)? Of course most of the comments from current employees will be anonymous, doing otherwise would be professionally reckless. Are students who don't sign their instructor evaluations also cowards? Same difference. All administrations should put this kind of feedback to the same use that we professors put our teaching evaluations. Filter out the bitter and the vengeful and find the constructive criticism to improve for the future. Maybe if we felt there was an internal mechanism to air our criticisms directly (digital suggestion box, say) and felt we were being heard, we wouldn't be shaking out the laundry in public. It looks bad for the university and is bad for recruiting. Clemson has a hard time attracting effective administration above the level of department chairs and has a large number of administrative staff that has not held posts at any other peer institution. To them, the Clemson way is the only way they know. Typically faculty have spent time as students, graduate students, postdocs, and faculty at two, three, four, or more other institutions and have a great experience set of good and bad examples of how to run many aspects of a university. Seems like a wasted opportunity to not use it. Just asking all of the people you serve, "How can I make this a better/easier/more effective experience for you?" will start a culture of improvement that couldn't help but increase Clemson's quality.

  • Posted by Catherine E. Watt, Ph.D. at Clemson University on June 5, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • I was dismayed to find my comments at an academic meeting taken largely out of context in a recent article (June 3, 2009). I gave a 45 minute talk on a successful strategic planning effort at Clemson University that has greatly benefited our students. The reporter chose to focus on a small aspect of the presentation rather than the whole picture presented.

     

    Clemson students have always excelled in graduation rates and alumni support. The strategic efforts to decrease class size and increase full-time faculty have only built upon an already excellent experience for our students. Again, it was upsetting to have those parts of the discussion omitted.

     

    The reporter also focused on my discussion of the reputation survey. A recent study by Penn State reinforced the constancy of the reputation score, and my reference to that study was omitted. I have never studied over time the way multiple Clemson officials rate other schools and cannot judge the decisions that they make on reputations of other institutions. My reference is to the questionable validity of the survey as a tool when research consistently points to reputational stability.

     

    My comments were presented to a small audience of institutional researchers to expand the discussion of rankings past simple data to a strategic planning and evaluation perspective. I regret comments made about “illegal, unethical or very interesting,” when my intent was to convey the challenges we all face in higher education about managing data. We in the education community must be aware of where the challenges lie, and also be able to talk about them.

    I recognize that it is easy to sensationalize the rankings. It is one thing on which we all have an opinion. However, the context of presenting a difficult subject, the context of the importance of strategic planning, and the positive outcomes at one institution could have been more carefully presented. Those of us who study higher education should not be afraid to talk about our challenges and different philosophies.

  • Proverbial Iceberg Tip
  • Posted by Untenured at Shame U , Asst. Prof. at Clemson on June 5, 2009 at 10:00am EDT
  • The hallways and faculty inboxes here at Clemson are buzzing. With shock and outrage? Not even close. Sure, most faculty here are appalled at the obsessive and ethically questionable quest for the Top 20. The news stories coming out just aren't news to us. The buzz around here is about how much more of this mess will get a public airing. Classes capped at 19 to improve ratings? That's only half the story; the other half is that since class size data is only taken in the fall semester, all those classes go back to 25 to 30 in the Spring. The thing is, none of this is news to us. We've been beaten down by the Top 20 mantra since President Barker took office. If Barker and Provost Helms want to claim Top 20 is only one of many objectives, I suppose that's a good PR strategy. It also would hold up in court as technically true (depending on what your definition of 'is' is). Here in the offices of Clemson University we know better. We have ridiculously underfunded and poorly managed doctoral programs created solely to impact rankings; we have a Provost on a mission to continually lower the number of general education requirements specifically to raise retention rates; we have...well, let's just see how much of this iceberg is going to emerge from the depths.

  • Ditto on the Iceberg
  • Posted by Clemson Faculty at Clemson on June 5, 2009 at 11:30am EDT
  • Clemson University is filled with wonderful people doing fine work, and I love it there, but it's time for the shell game of rankings chasing to end. Sure, "everyone" does it, but no one seems to do it as single-mindedly as us.

    As "Untenured" mentions those small class sizes disappear in the Spring and return in Fall for the rankings. Great for class sizes, disastrous for students who are trying to manage requirements for graduation, which creates even more overload the next semester. General ed has been gutted to the bone and there's plans to outsource it even further while those doctoral programs crop up like mushrooms in fields where there's no conceivable career path in academia for the graduates.

    The creative inquiry projects mentioned elsewhere were great until they cannibalized the already skeleton faculty, leaving no one to teach the core courses. Because of bad planning and management that grant money was ex post facto rescinded anyway, leaving already strapped departments holding the bag. Sure, our governor and state assembly refuse to fund the university, but it's not like this wasn't a foreseeable problem. The university is a microcosm of the last eight years of society-at-large. Spend now, pay later. We're paying in a big way and the denialists are only making sure that now that the bill is due, it's going to hurt even more.

    Clemson has abandoned its mission of providing the best education possible for South Carolinians in the name of being mentioned in the same breath as UNC in a magazine whose ranking system is widely known to be wholly bogus. Either we return to our values or we die. This is a university that is close to a tipping point that will send us down the drain. Ask your colleagues how many of them are ready to jump ship at the first opportunity elsewhere? How are those people going to be replaced when we don't have the resources to hire?

    God bless all the Clemson pride. Our lifetime inferiority complex when measured against our northern neighbors gets our backs up when criticism comes to tiger-town, but let's get real people, our university is in trouble. Step one is to get our state to re-invest in our school (and all the others in SC for that matter). The next step is to find administration that won't squander the money.

  • Posted by Joe Jetpack in NJ on June 5, 2009 at 1:30pm EDT
  • The USNWR rankings are actually quite valuable. Without them, many people would take at face value the statements of second tier colleges like Stony Brook, Lafayette, Rutgers, Syracuse, etc. that they are "among the best". It is a very instructive experience when applying to such places to read the USNWR rankings and look for them on the first few pages in vain.

    Some schools in the rankings are obviously in the wrong place, though not by much. Overall the rankings agree with what pretty much anyone who knows about universities will say.

    Some adjustments that I would make are the following (primarily to put the top public universities where they belong).

    Penn - a few slots down
    Duke - a couple slots down
    Dartmouth - 10 slots down
    WUSTL - 10 slots down
    Emory - 10 slots down
    Notre Dame - 10 slots down
    Vanderbilt - 10 slots down
    Berkeley - 10 slots up
    UCLA - 10 slots up
    Michigan - 10 slots up
    Wake Forest - 10 slots down
    William and Mary - a few slots down
    UCSD - 10 slots up
    Wisconsin - a few slots up
    Illinois - 10 slots up
    U. Washington - 10 slots up

  • Clemson needs to find more credible boosters
  • Posted by cantab , Professor at University of California on June 5, 2009 at 10:15pm EDT
  • So Professor Ballato is a fan. Let's see who he is. Hmm. He's just been named associate vice president of Clemson. Not exactly a grass roots faculty member.

    According to his web site "Dr. Ballato has published over 80 archival papers with over 400 citations." Only 5 citations per paper on average? Those are not high-quality papers. Most of my colleagues have single papers with over 400 citations.

    "Dr. Ballato has been a Principal Investigator on over $19.5 million worth of sponsored programs." As a taxpayer, I am disappointed that so much of my money has been dissipated by someone doing work that has not generated a huge amount of respect from peers, as measured by citations.

    Looking at Google Scholar, all of Ballato's well-cited papers have him as a middle author. His most-cited paper as first or last author has 22 citations: "Optical properties of perfluorocyclobutyl polymers." Doesn't sound like deep science...

  • Dr. Watt's comments
  • Posted by Patrick Mattimore , Teacher at Retired on June 6, 2009 at 6:30am EDT
  • I have read through the first link which leads to a Power Point version of Dr. Watt's June 2 presentation and the IHE reports. I am also a professional journalist and was for many years an educator. I disagree with Dr. Watt's conclusion that her remarks were taken largely out of context. In fact, it is obvious from the Power Point that the focus of her presentation was largely upon what Clemson has done to better position that school with regard to the USN&WR rankings. She asks "What factors can be affected to have the greatest impact on an institution's ranking?" She then initiates a "discussion to direct Clemson's rise," and begins by asserting how Clemson has responded to USN&WR. It's "not a question of if, but of how."
    She does not suggest that she was misquoted and certainly the tenor of her reported remarks are in line with at least parts of her published Power Point.
    Whether Dr. Watt anticipated that her remarks would be taken as implicit criticism of Clemson is irrelevant. Whether she could have forseen that her talk would become the lead story at Poynter Romenesko, the leading online source for journalists in the country, is also beside the point. The fact is that her admissions about ways in which her university games the system were the story, not her conclusions about the nobility of Clemson's purpose.
    But the much larger question is not whether Clemson has done those things Dr. Watt alleges, but how colleges ought to respond to having a news magazine continue to dictate institutional quality measures.

  • Using Reputational Ranking
  • Posted by ClemEd Prof , Faculty/School of Education at Clemson University on June 6, 2009 at 5:15pm EDT
  • President Barker's goal is to be a top 20 public university. One has to wonder why US News is the only academic ranking that is cited. Any good scientist will tell you that multiple "ranking" indicators should be used to obtain an accurate understanding on one's "rank". Use other academic ranking indicators to assess Clemson's rank and an interesting picture emerges.
    Rank

    US News 22

    Top Public Research Universities* 77
    Times Higher Education: QS World
    University Rankings 524

    Shanghai Jia Tong University
    Academic Ranking of World Universities 303-401
    (Universities in this range are listed
    alphabetically)

    Shanghai Jia Tong University
    Top 100 North & Latin American Univ. 137-163
    (Universities in this range are listed
    alphabetically)

    Total Research Expenditures# 91
    Federal Research Expenditures# 127
    National Academy Memberships* 194 (tie)

    Faculty Awards* 98
    Doctorates Awarded* 121
    Postdoctoral Appointees* 169
    SAT Scores* 177
    National Merit Scholars 51

    *The Center for Measuring University Performance
    # National Science Foundation

    Conclusions. Clemson has been successful in raising its academic rank in US News. Ms Watt is not the first person to note how easy it is to "game" US News rankings. However, all other academic rankings indicate that Clemson is no where near a top 20 public university ranking. When the ranking system uses data that can not be "gamed" (federal research expenditures, national awards, number of highly cited articles, number of publications in SCI and SSCI, etc.) Clemson does not do well.--Research and graduate education has not experienced significant improvement in the rankings. In the 9 years Clemson has been pursuing its US News ranking it has yet to break into the top 100 universities for federally funded research expenditures.--We live in a globalized world. While Clemson has been in pursuit of a top 20 national undergraduate ranking, other top US public research universities have focused on their international academic reputation. Will Clemson's narrow focus have significant ramifcations in the future?-- In a recent issue of Clemson World, President Barker stated, when discussing Clemson's US News ranking, "we have passed NC State, Virginia Tech, Michigan State, & Texas AM". Interestingly all 4 of these universities are ranked in the Shanghai Jia Tong Academic ranking of world universities in the top 100 North & Latin American Universities. Clemson is not. In addition, all 4 of these universities rank higher than Clemson in all of the rankings listed above except National Merit Scholars (NC State 63, Virginia Tech 105).--- If Clemson wants to measure academic quality using rankings, then use all the reputational ranking data that is available. The data presented above reflects the folly of only use one--US News. Clemson's Trustees, SC taxpayers & legislators, and Clemson students and their parents should demand this change.

  • This isn't the real story
  • Posted by CU Tiger 1977 , Alumnus at Clemson U on June 7, 2009 at 6:45am EDT
  • I think Miss Watt and the reporters have all missed the important story here. The worst thing going on at Clemson isn't a little slight-of-hand with class sizes and reporting salaries. Those things don't hurt students at all--in fact they don't hurt anyone.

    The real story is that the budget cuts at Clemson have been so severe that the quality of this fine school is actually starting to suffer, even though the employees and administrators are doing their best to remain world-class.

    In the past 5 years, Clemson has had to do away with its motor pool, its in-house printing, and even some of its maintenance staff, because the state government wouldn't fund the school adequately. This year, there was no way to keep the budget cuts from affecting students and faculty. Instructors were fired and the school cut its writing classes because there was no money to pay for them. There is talk that next year the cuts could see more staff fired as whole units (like PSA) are considered in terms of profits and losses instead of their value to the school and community.

    South Carolina's governor has done everything in his power to strangle this great and valued university by withholding funding every chance he gets. If you want to tell a story of something shameful happening at Clemson, there it is. But it's not the fault of the Clemson faculty or administration. They have always done an amazing job with what they have to work with. It's the fault of the enemies of education in the South Carolina Government who need to be taken to task. There's your story.

  • Conflicts of interest at Clemson
  • Posted at Clemson U on June 8, 2009 at 3:00pm EDT
  • I am a professor at Clemson and I find it interesting to read the comments posted above by so many people. Just to add another example of certain unethical moves on the part of the administration, I would like to point out just one of the financial dealings that many of my colleagues and I find questionable at the least.

    Many students applying to Clemson are not admitted directly into the university, but rather into what is called the Bridge Program. These students take one year's worth of courses at a local Technical School and then transfer into Clemson for the beginning of their second year. I have no real problem with that, except for the fact that it could somewhat skew the perceived numbers of students admitted versus students who applied (these students are not technically admitted to Clemson but will rather automatically transfer there after their first year, pending success in their technical school courses). The problem that I have with this program is that those students must live in a centralized location (a local apartment complex) that just happens to be owned by the provost and few of her cohorts (certain members of the Board of Trustees). Meaning that, Clemson's provost Helms makes money off of these students through their housing costs. I find it, in the least, questionable that, on top of her already high salary, administrators make even more money from forcing students to live in property owned by them, not university housing or other arrangements normally made by students on their own.

  • Professor Abuses
  • Posted on June 9, 2009 at 5:15am EDT
  • Regarding the Professor's post above, what an outrage that such a post is allowed that, without any indication of prove, accuses the Provost of owning an entire apartment complex. This is part of the "urban legend" lore that Provost Helms referred to in her statement. Additionally, this is a similar approach to that of Dr Watt's unsubstantiated stories at the conference. There is very little evidence, actually none, in her presentation that supports her claims of unethical behavior. Her charges consist of several off-hand comments that are now treated as gospel by many commentators and the educators who despise the USN&WR rankings.

    Let us look at Watt's "explosive" comments and see what has become of them since last Tuesday. Her explosive remarks are:

    1. Clemson gamed the faculty salary data by including benefits in the reported totals.

    This accusation was contradicted before Watt even left the session by none other than the director of USN&WR. Mr Morse indicated that Clemson was indeed correct in including such benefit data. You might think this early indication of Watt's lack of knowledge should require some level of support for her other statements. Alas, that seems to not be the case.

    2. Clemson acted in an "illegal, unethical, or really interesting" manner.

    Within 48 hours of the conference session Watt had written and verbalized that she "regretted" these specific remarks. I would hope any thinking person would "regret" such a statement that is patently false. What could possibily be illegal in anything she has accused? This, I suppose, is as close as she can bring herself to a complete retraction and an admission of her true concern that she doesn't agree with improving the quality and prestige of Clemson at all.

    3. Clemson ranked "everyone else below average" in the Academic Ranking survey.

    This accusation involves sensitive information to disprove, but Clemson has indicated a willingness to share the surveys they have as long as comments are not made public with regard to specific institutions. Based on Watt's previous record, I would guess such information would show the vast majority of schools were rated fairly by Clemson administrators.

    These were the only "eplosive" accusations. Two have been severely undermined, if not rejected out of hand, and the third probably can/will be.

    The rest of Watt's comments entail stories of class size strategizing and a series of backhanded comments against Clemson's general quest for improvement - regardless of connection to USN&WR rankings. This latter issue, I believe, is the real concern of Watt and others in vocal minority - that Clemson is trying to improve quality and prestige. Of course, this quest is rejected by those who believe Clemson should remain a modest school in a small and poor State. For some constituencies this is a popular position that keeps the old status quo in place. The position is supported by many, e.g., parents of rejected applicants, alumni of rival in-state schools (i.e., check Dr Watt's degrees), low productive faculty, and those who believe improved academics may hinder the schools intercollegiate sports (Football) interests. This is the real issue of the vocal minority and a reading of many of comments above displays the thinking perfectly.

  • JoeJetPackNJ has been smoking his fumes.
  • Posted by RC on June 15, 2009 at 11:45am EDT
  • Okay, JoeJetPackNJ. You know what they say about opinions. They're just like you know what and everyone has one. Unfortunately, Mister NJ, if you want to denigrate a great school with outstanding departments such as Rutgers with a broad brush stroke and label it as one of your "second tier" that's your "opinion" and right to do so. But for you to even mention the so-called "second tier" schools, when comparing a school like Rutgers to Clemson just shows, you're no better than USNR and just as ignorant.

  • clemson
  • Posted by sean mcrunk , political science at University of Michigan on August 14, 2009 at 5:00am EDT
  • At the end of the day, clemson is still in South Carolina and most things associated with that state are not very positive. I know academicians at many of the top schools in America and Canada and none of them would ever teach at Duke, Rice or Emory because of where they are located and their horrible climates.

  • I'm persuaded, McCrunk!
  • Posted by marty mcfly , political science at University of Michigan on August 20, 2009 at 2:45pm EDT
  • What a good idea you and your acquaintances have, to add "climate" to the USN&WR rankings formula! Of course, if those data are collected in January, we here at the illustrious U of M might have a problem.

    BTW, I'm as much a legitimate member of the UM Poli Sci faculty as McCrunk, which is to say, not in the least.