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June 24, 2009

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WASHINGTON -- As consensus has built around the need to simplify the federal financial aid form (and the recognition that that is just part of the answer to really simplifying the financial aid process), proposals for doing so have ranged widely, from shrinking the Free Application for Federal Student Assistance significantly to eliminating it outright.

Simplifying the aid process has been a central plank of President Obama's aggressive agenda to increase college going and completion, and on Wednesday, Education Secretary Arne Duncan will lay out the administration's plan for doing so in his first appearance before the White House press corps.

A preview of the plan shared with reporters Tuesday suggests that the administration will (as it seems to be doing on many fronts these days) take a moderate path, undertaking significant but not revolutionary changes, and doing so in stages.

Under the proposal, the Education Department would make some changes in the next six months, using better technology on the popular Web-based form to allow independent students to skip over a set of questions about their parents' finances that don't apply to them, for instance, and, come January, letting students from low-income families skirt questions about their financial assets, which don't affect the aid available for such students.

The second prong of the administration's plan will be to ask Congress to alter federal law to strike all questions related to assets from the FAFSA entirely and to let families use information from their tax forms to answer many remaining questions. It was unclear from the early information about the administration's proposal if it would ask lawmakers to allocate Pell Grants based on aid applicants' adjusted gross income instead of the government's current, complicated "needs analysis" formula.

If Congress backs the administration's plan, that would clear the way, department officials said, for having 18 key financial questions on the form answered by data from the IRS, leaving families to answer basic personal information on the form.

More details may be available later today when the department fully briefs reporters, but initial reactions from financial aid experts were enthusiastic.

"The administration's proposals for simplifying the application process for federal student aid are very exciting," said Sandy Baum, an economist at Skidmore College who co-chaired a College Board-convened panel on "Rethinking Student Aid." "The immediate changes, which allow applicants to skip questions that are not relevant to them, will make the process faster and less confusing for many students and families. The incorporation of IRS data into the process represents a huge leap forward. The Rethinking Student Aid Study Group proposed eliminating all financial questions from the FAFSA and relying entirely on IRS data. In order for that to happen, the legislation the Administration is proposing will have to pass Congress and IRS data will have to be available for applicants throughout the year.

"This first step is, however, very impressive," Baum added. "People have been saying for years that the IRS just can't or won't do this. But that has now been proven wrong."

Molly Corbett Broad, president of the American Council on Education, said in a prepared statement that college officials would be likely to have "many questions" about the implications of the administration's plans. "Despite the complexity of the policy discussion in the coming days, however," she said, "there can be no doubt that simplifying the FAFSA as the department has proposed will be of tremendous benefit to thousands of students and their families."

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Comments on Simplifying in Stages

  • Don't count your chickens yet
  • Posted by finaidfollies on June 24, 2009 at 7:00am EDT
  • I'm honestly glad to see this on the docket, finally. Yeesh, you'd think this was rocket science. What on earth took so long?

  • Take ito the Limit
  • Posted by Old School on June 24, 2009 at 8:00am EDT
  • I'm for eliminating the free form (FAFSA) altogether. (God knows it's never been free to the taxpayer and that it has had very little to do with determining 'real' need for assistance.) While we are at it, let's eliminate all campus-based funds and the God-awful regulations and reporting requirements imposed upon schools that come with them. In so doing, we could eliminate the discriminatory 'hold harmless' agreements that preserve an unfair shair of these federal funds for certain schools, while other schools suffer with reduced portons of the federal pie. Let's keep the determination of federal aid (one grant, one loan and one work program) eligibility exclusively between the federal government and the student. This would allow the colleges to reclaim their ownership of the formula for true need-based assistance beyond government funds (which could be treated like other private scholarships and resources). Let's get the colleges out of the federal aid loop, altogether. (Think of all the money it would save on annual audits!) Let's let the Department of Ed originate federal student loans directly with the students, too. Why not? Colleges could merely certify enrollment status of student borrowers and be done with it. With all that done, colleges could return to the business of determining need for their own institutional aid with a more equitable need analysis formula that does not exclude certain forms of income and assets for political reasons.

  • Are the facts straight here?
  • Posted by lcl on June 24, 2009 at 9:30am EDT
  • The online FAFSA has had "skip-logic" built into it for years.

    If a student qualifies for the auto-zero or SNT formulas it already skips all the asset questions (which is a major pain if it turns out later the student does not, in fact, qualify for that formula), and if auto-zero it also skips questions about untaxed income. So in what way is this new or improved?

    Now, pulling in IRS data would certainly help (IN THEORY - assuming you resolve all the school year/tax year calendar conflicts, application access issues, etc.) by answering certain questions people always get wrong (income tax paid), answering others that confuse the hell out of people, and skipping ones that aren't relevant ("what is untaxed interest income, mommy?") and are on the tax form or w-2s.

    But without further streamlining it certainly doesn't solve all problems and could introduce certain errors. Untaxed pension/IRA disbursements being one. The IRS doesn't even require that the line for untaxed disbursements be filled in, and even when it is filled in, the discussed "IRS match" may not be able to consistently tell the difference between an actual disbursement (included in the calculation at present) and a 'rollover' (not included). The best solution there is probably to just kill the question entirely, particularly given how rarely it generates info that actually affects eligibility.

    As for "Old School" - while on the whole I'd agree, you overlook the fact that schools in their own analysis will still ignore certain types of income/assets for political reasons (capping home equity, ignoring retirement accounts, etc.) even as they pull back in a few the feds have chosen to skip (foreign income exclusion, certain tax breaks, etc.). Likewise, they'll set their own threshholds/percentages for what is "reasonable" for a family to contribute.

    The precise definition of "equitable" is in the eye of the beholder. I would argue (working at such a school now) that it's no more or less 'equitable' than the flawed federal formula, rather what we do is more politically palatable for our administration and our (significantly wealthier than average) student population.

  • Skip Logic
  • Posted by R.F. , FAO on June 24, 2009 at 10:00am EDT
  • lcl, I agree with you and I believe it would have been more accurate for the journalist to say that the department will ask the processor to extend and enhance the skip logic beyond what it already does.

    We have all seen ISIR's where the student was independent, but managed to fill out all of the parental data anyway. It is often confusing for neophyte FAO's who are performing verification as well. I believe that is what they are trying to ensure does not happen.

    The worst thing the FAFSA does is assume that parents and students are fluent in taxes and Title IV, and hence allows them to self report data. It has been and remains problematic for many fafsa filers. IRS provided data is the way to go.

  • Paper app = still a mess
  • Posted by lcl on June 24, 2009 at 12:00pm EDT
  • "We have all seen ISIR's where the student was independent, but managed to fill out all of the parental data anyway."

    When I see that I tend to assume they filled out a paper FAFSA, honestly. The one time I logged in to check my suspicion, it was indeed so. The biggest problem with the on-line app is the collection of questions, not the app itself. The biggest problem with the paper form is everything. :P

    This may not be accurate 100% of the time (there may be a way or two to trick the skip logic), but, you know, Occam's Razor...

  • long overdue, but now Congress needs to go to work
  • Posted by David Sheridan on June 24, 2009 at 12:00pm EDT
  • Bravo! Financial aid administrators are good people, but tend to be way too detail oriented, and too much of this system reflects the fact that many can't see the forest for the trees...or the little speck on one leaf on one tree that they're obsessing over. Students and parents can't figure this stuff out...is it any wonder why they show up in Financial Aid Offices with a chip on their shoulder? They see no transparency, just endless obscure questions about things they never thought about with no clue how the information they provide is used or why it's used that way. Sometimes it seems as though half the questions on the FAFSA don't apply to 99% of the students, and that's not much of an exaggeration.

    But now it's time for Congress to do the heavy lifting. Much of the complexity in need analysis, and as a result, on the FAFSA, is because of absurdities in the law. Who needs a whole page of questions to figure out if a student is financially independent? The IRS has tax info, why not use it? The way asset info is collected and used discourages people from saving or encourages them to play all kinds of shell games to hide their money. A business applying for a multi-million dollar Federal loan has to answer fewer than one-tenth the number of questions an 18-year-old has to answer to get a few thousand. Stop using aid applications to hunt down drug users or those who didn't register with Selective Service. Does any of this make sense? Of course it doesn't, so change it. As one commenter said, we're not talking about rocket science.

  • FAFSA and the Federal Fiction
  • Posted by Student Advocate on June 24, 2009 at 3:00pm EDT
  • Before there is too much celebration over simplifying the FAFSA, even significantly, let's remember Dynarski's and Scott-Clayton's research showing that fully ninety percent of the FAFSA questions could be thrown out with "virtually no change in the distribution of the Pell."  And that's before the FAO starts to fill in enrollment management yield cells in the aid packaging process, which can undo the other ten percent. 

    Complicated or simplified, the FAFSA has become, throughout much of 4-year postsecondary education, meaningless compliance paperwork to support a federal fiction that it is linked to increasing access.  All discussions of FAFSA reform need to keep that in mind.