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October 13, 2009

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Scholars turn to style manuals for guidance in authoring error-free manuscripts, but what happens when the manual itself is laden with errors?

Users of the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association are trying to answer that question now, after the APA last week released dozens of corrections to the first printing of the book’s sixth edition. In addition to being used in psychology, the manual is also used in sociology, economics, business, nursing and justice administration, among other fields.

“It’s egregious,” said John Foubert, an associate professor of education at Oklahoma State University, who bought two copies of the book – one for his office and one for home – when it was released in July. “These are the standards for how we write our manuscripts and how our students write their papers …. The irony is so thick.”

The corrections include four pages of “nonsignificant typographical errors” and five pages correcting errors in content and problems with sample papers in the book. The APA also released four corrected sample papers in their entireties. One correction is "Page 88 – Change last line under 'Exception' to read 'Spacing twice after punctuation marks at the end of a sentence aids readers of draft manuscripts.' " Another is "Page 64 – First paragraph, line 2, insert a comma after 'e.g.' "

Mary Lynn Skutley, editorial director for APA books, said she’s faced “an uproar” from readers upset about the mistakes. “It’s very understandable that people would not be happy about the situation, but we’ve tried to be honest about it. We very much believe in transparency and acknowledging the mistakes we’ve made.”

The manual, she added, was “very complicated to put together” because it includes 188 style rules and 980 examples. “With so much in the book, it’s unavoidable that we wouldn’t need to make corrections of some kind.” A second printing, with corrections made, is already available at bookstores and online.

Gavin W. Henning, associate director for assessment in Dartmouth College’s Office of Institutional Research, learned of the errors and corrections last week, when a librarian at another institution sent a warning about the corrections to CSPTalk, a listserv for faculty in student affairs preparation programs run by the American College Personnel Association (ACPA).

The corrections have led Henning to become “concerned about the quality of the product we’re getting,” he said. “The APA manual is about precision in writing and having the manual be as imprecise as it is seems wrong to me.”

Foubert asked for replacement copies of the manual. In an e-mail to Skutley, he made his case: "Given the focus of APA on ethics, it is APA’s ethical obligation to replace first printings with complimentary copies of the second printing."

Skutley declined to send him new copies of the book and suggested he download the corrections from the APA Web site. “Being intimately familiar with both the book and the nature of the corrections I firmly believe that replacement of the first printing would be both unnecessary and wasteful.”

Wasteful or not, Henning wants a new copy, too. “If I buy a sweater, or even a car, if there are flaws with the item I can take it back for an unflawed item – the same should be true of this book,” he said. “I’m going to have to create some kind of workaround to make sure the rule or example I’m using isn’t one that’s been corrected. Having an error-free copy would make my life easier.”

The corrections on the APA’s Web site, he added, are difficult to find. There’s no direct link from the APA Style homepage and "someone who didn’t know to look for corrections would have no idea where to find them."

He’s also concerned that "students trying to learn the process of writing in APA style aren’t going to find any of this helpful."

One of Foubert’s students at Oklahoma State, Avi Zacherman, who’s working toward an M.S. in educational leadership, said he’s “frustrated by the mistakes … everyone I know who’s writing with APA 6 worries they’re writing with mistakes.”

Even so, he’s not going to use the corrections. “I’m not going to sit here and look at the list of mistakes with the copy I have. That would be silly.”

He’s planning instead to return his copy to campus bookstore where he bought it “if they’ll take it back.”

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Comments on Correcting a Style Guide

  • Here's a solution
  • Posted by Mike on October 13, 2009 at 9:15am EDT
  • Perhaps a move away from APA style may be in order. Both MLA and Chicago are pretty widespread. Certainly, it would be a difficult transition, but the number of errors and the way it has been handled may warrant a thorough look at APA style.

  • APA errors
  • Posted by beleagured English prof , A&S at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University on October 13, 2009 at 9:15am EDT
  • How in the name of creation am I supposed to uphold standards when the first thing I have to do with my class is take them through the newly published 'bible' of documentation style and have them mark up their copies to correct the errors! I can hear the excuses now. APA should take back every flawed edition and replace it with the corrected version.

  • Pathetic
  • Posted by sean lancaster , Associate Professor / Education at Grand Valley State University on October 13, 2009 at 9:15am EDT
  • If this was a textbook that had errors, fine. However, this is THE style guide for writing in departments, schools, and colleges of education. This is the main reference book I use for writing up my research and that I use with my thesis students. The APA has a monopoly so they have no incentive to do the right thing. I think it's pathetic that my copy of the APA Manual is going to have loose papers inserted here and there for the next many years that the 6th edition is the current edition. Pathetic! If they will not do a recall then I would really appreciate an exchange program for even a nominal fee, which I'd gladly pay to ensure I am advising student correctly and following the correct rules myself.

  • Flawed APA
  • Posted by Deborah , Librarian on October 13, 2009 at 9:15am EDT
  • As a librarian, I have struggled with how to teach the latest APA---and I have also thought that the American Psychological Association owes me a new edition. It is not acceptable to state that because it's "complicated" to produce a new edition, the flawed, unprofessional editing and publishing found in the 6th edition is acceptable. A graduate thesis or dissertation is also "complicated" but we expect our students to master the process and use the appropriate style correctly. How could a student ever do that with the product APA has brought to the market? Not only does APA ethically need to replace these editions, it needs to seriously examine its publications division. If this is the quality of work being brought forward, it calls into question other titles as well. Aren't other titles published by APA "complicated"?

  • Evidence-based?
  • Posted by Bill Dockery , Assoc Ed, Quest Magazine, Office of Research at University of Tennessee on October 13, 2009 at 9:30am EDT
  • >One correction is "Page 88 – Change last line under 'Exception' to read 'Spacing twice after punctuation marks at the end of a sentence aids readers of draft manuscripts.' "

    Is there experimental evidence for this "double-space" rule after periods, or are there just some social scientists who can't shake the influence of their high school typing teachers?

    Modern editorial practice demands only one space after periods because most texts are transmitted (and edited) electronically and the double letter-space after periods, etc., can introduce typographic complications. That's been common knowledge for only the last quarter century.

    (And are social science editorial boards STILL working with hardcopy submissions?)

  • Dang
  • Posted by Russ , LOL at Podunk U on October 13, 2009 at 9:30am EDT
  • Close enough for government work.

    What's the problem?

  • A little comeuppance
  • Posted by LOL on October 13, 2009 at 9:45am EDT
  • A little comeuppance for the APA authors...er or is that come-uppance. They've been torturing us long enough with their quirky and capricious writing style rulings - it would seem some justice is done here.

  • cost-savings trumps professionalism again
  • Posted by A Publications Manager on October 13, 2009 at 10:00am EDT
  • Now this is a fine example of what happens when an organization values profits more than accuracy. Many publishers -- and, in particular, underfunded academic publishing units -- have eliminated proofreading and QC stages in order to keep costs low while generating maximum revenue. Turns out the quality of the product really does reflect what the organization values. I wish Skutley could freely compare the production process of the 6th edition to previous production processes, but she will, of course, toe the company line. I suggest that users switch to the Chicago Manual of Style.

  • Nothing new
  • Posted by Cranky Old Prof on October 13, 2009 at 10:00am EDT
  • APA copy editing has seemingly been suspect for years. When I published a book with them several years ago, the first round of their copy editing *introduced* so many more errors than it corrected that (after I complained) they agreed to scrap it entirely and begin again from the original manuscripts.

  • let me get this straight
  • Posted by phd student on October 13, 2009 at 10:00am EDT
  • Sounds to me like the APA is suggesting students/researchers be held to a higher standard than they hold themselves. So does that mean my committee will be okay if just tack on a page of format corrections at the end of my dissertation?

  • Replace APA Publication Manual with free version online
  • Posted by Dan Suvak , Associate Dean for Library Services at Walsh University on October 13, 2009 at 10:15am EDT
  • APA finds it difficult to replace the defective copies it sold. Why not just post a free, complete, correct version online? Sure, it would cost some sales, but they really need to rehabilitate their image after this fiasco.

  • Posted by disgusted and dismayed on October 13, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • it's lovely how "admitting" mistakes and being "transparent" about them is the new substitute for actually FIXING something. It's like everyone's embracing their most feeble, half-assed selves. What happened to actual accountability?

  • Why so complicated?
  • Posted by LCR on October 13, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • Just provide us all with a shipping address, we could send our manuals back, and they could ship out a new one. I don't know why it's so "difficult" to exchange the first printings for the second printings.

  • Posted on October 13, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • According to an APA staff member, the second printing applies only to hardcover and spiral bound editions. The paperbacks will not be available until sometime in November. Make sure if you order copies that you are actually getting second printings with the corrections.

  • Posted by Elizabeth , grad student on October 13, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • So for every instance in which I use the style guide as a reference for proper form, I'm supposed to cross-reference a 16 page supplement to make sure the APA was correct? As a newcomer to academic writing, interpreting the changes from the fifth edition to the sixth edition has been difficult to do with any confidence, and now I can't trust that the new guide is correct. On the eve of a paper deadline, I find this highly disturbing.

  • Setting a good example
  • Posted by Laurel Whisler , College Librarian at Cornell College on October 13, 2009 at 11:00am EDT
  • "Good enough" or "look at the web site for revisions" really doesn't cut it. Students who are learning what is involved in scholarship within a discipline require an accurate style guide for that discipline. The APA should set a better example than the first edition illustrates, and libraries should not have to bear the cost of acquiring replacement copies.

  • Great way to generate new revenue!!!
  • Posted by Belinda on October 13, 2009 at 11:15am EDT
  • So, if I'm reading this article correctly, the APA published what was essentially a draft and charged customers full price for that draft. They then put the final copy together and if they want the "corrected" version are charging them full price again?

    What a fantastic new revenue model for publishing! Just print drafts and hey, if you want the final version - you can pay again! Think of how many more Harry Potter books could have been sold!!!

    Or better yet, think of the application in text book sales. So, you want to know the accurate formula to solve for that physics problem? Oh, sorry, the corerct version is only available in our new text book - only $199.99. We apologize if any of the typos cause you any difficulties in the future.

    Sorry for the sarcasm, but wow, what a new low in standards is being set here.

  • MISTAKE FOUND IN APA CORRECTIONS/SAMPLES
  • Posted by Paula Porter , Faculty on October 13, 2009 at 11:15am EDT
  • In reviewing the links provided today (Thanks to Inside Higher Ed!), there is another error! On the "Errors in Examples" the second correction in Chapter 2 on Page 41 notes to "include departmental affiliations paragraph..." HOWEVER, the sample downloaded from APA with corrections does not include this in the sample paper provided. What happens when even the corrections are incorrect? Can you say THIRD EDITION?

  • The True Measure of APA...
  • Posted by Walter Roberts , Professor of Counselor Education at Minnesota State University, Mankato on October 13, 2009 at 12:30pm EDT
  • APA has an ethical and business obligation to replace all of its defective "product" to consumers who purchased the first printing. What say you, APA members--willing to stand up and make your organization do the right thing?

  • Abandon APA
  • Posted by Sol , Editor at Freelance on October 13, 2009 at 1:00pm EDT
  • The best way to rebel is to stop using APA style. APA is a horrible style and creates more clutter on the page than is necessary. Virtually all copyeditors hate APA style for a reason.
    I bought the new CMOS a few years ago; when I complained about the poor print job (hickey marks from the plates on a few pages), Chicago offered to replace it for free, and all I had to do was mail them the copyright page. What nice people! And their style guide doesn't have mistakes!

  • Recall your Flawed Product
  • Posted by Emily W. Thompson at University of Georgia on October 13, 2009 at 2:00pm EDT
  • A few minor typos seem semi-acceptable, but the errors in this book sound like they go beyond a reasonable number. In the meantime, I would try to take back a flawed edition to the bookstore where I bought it ~ on principle! Good bookstores should take it back, at least for store credit. If not, APA should take back all the flawed product and eat the costs. Then, they should offer a replacement at marginal cost ($10 + shipping) to everyone that ships back their flawed copy. The replacement could be printed in a slightly cheaper, but still durable, format. Make it right! That being said, even without the errors, this edition may not be a worthwhile purchase, so perhaps we should just skip this one and wait for the seventh edition, if there is one!

  • A symptom of a larger problem
  • Posted by dzrlib , Library at Caltech on October 13, 2009 at 2:30pm EDT
  • The APA's refusal to replace defective copies is part of a larger problem. There are a number of examples of scientific books that obviously were either printed from an early draft or simply not copy edited. Souldn't there be a 'lemon law' for defective books?

  • Seriously
  • Posted by Annie , Doctoral Student on October 13, 2009 at 2:45pm EDT
  • I am a doctoral student and quickly picked up the 6th edition manual to write my introduction to my dissertation. And SERIOUSLY can't believe that I now have to print out corrections to this book AND go back and figure out what I changed to match to the INCORRECT BOOK. It has never been acceptable to publish something with so many mistakes. APA owes all of us an updated copy.

  • More errors in the corrections
  • Posted by Jeani Young , Lecturer and PhD Candidate on October 13, 2009 at 3:15pm EDT
  • FYI on the clarifications of the blog post it states to replace the screen name with "PZ Myers." So now are we listing authors initials first with no periods and also how do I alphabetize that?

  • Fixed?
  • Posted by Jamie , educational leadership graduate student on October 13, 2009 at 3:15pm EDT
  • How's this for a conundrum: My spiral bound book has a 2010 copyright (presumably because it's the second printing), yet it still contains the errors referred to on this supplement: http://supp.apa.org/style/pubman-errors-in-examples-for-2e.pdf

  • don't buy it, don't learn it
  • Posted by Jay , Instructional Technology professor on October 13, 2009 at 3:30pm EDT
  • I don't own an APA manual. I don't worry about it. I do know how to do inline citations. I do know how to include enough information for people to find the article. If someone wants to fuss over whether I italicized a volume number, I'm happy for them to do so. If I forget or just don't know I don't worry.

  • Easy Solution
  • Posted by Richard , Director, Online Writing Lab on October 13, 2009 at 4:00pm EDT
  • As a person who came up in the "old school," I had to learn APA and drop MLA (University) and Chicago (Industry). Sorry to be rude, but APA always seemed like a joke to us. It was something that "pretend" and "lazy" scholars used because MLA was simply too cumbersome and rigorous for people engaged in the second-tier "Social Sciences." Sorry, but that is how we felt. Blame it on a very serious English department at my former University.

    However, now that I am somewhat used to the rather bizarre APA rules, I can go with them for my students, but I would never write a serious research paper using APA.

    Regarding the comment above about releasing drafts to be edited by customers, the company I worked for as a tech writer and editor for 25 years did this all the time. However, we knew we were doing it and we provided online tech support for our customers and free updates when they became available.

    I would respectfully suggest that the APA people do the same, once they sort out all the bugs, of course. From these comments, the 3rd or 4th printing should do it,

  • MLA all the way
  • Posted by A. on October 13, 2009 at 4:45pm EDT
  • MLA keeps a consistent standard without constant re-issuing (saving us all money and hassle of re-learning).

  • Richard's Easy Solution
  • Posted by sean , Associate Professor on October 13, 2009 at 5:30pm EDT
  • Richard, i think it's laughable that there are people who use MLA and look down upon the APA style . . . particularly when they believe that MLA is more cumbersome and rigorous. this is the same MLA that does not require an abstract on formatted papers while the APA requires an abstract for these same papers. i have honestly never thought that one system was better or worse or more cumbersome or whatever. they are two style guides designed to standardize the writing in various fields to aid the reader and the differences between them are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. the effectiveness of written work really comes down to whether it's written well; not whether it's styled in MLA or APA. but i digress. ;~)

  • A Very Big Racket
  • Posted by Not So Amused Observer at Industry on October 13, 2009 at 5:30pm EDT
  • Having read my share of APA journals and having learned APA 3 or so, I'm shocked at the frequency of APA's "revisions" of its standard. It changes so frequently, it can hardly be considered a standard.

    I helped my wife with the formatting of her dissertation and watched horror as the standard changed over the course of dissertation and formatting revisions. No sooner had we finished one revision than her advisor advised her of a new "electronic media" revision, and then another. I can understand adding new guidance for new types of electronic media, but each change tended to revise the whole standard and required editing several media citations.

    I realized several things as I read and reread the APA guide and tried to interpret its requirements relative to several conflicting Graduate School requirements and conflicting faculty requests, not to mention conflicts with common sense. 1. The guide is primarily for the benefit of an obsolete journal typesetting and layout process which could be avoided with a consistent set of electronic style sheets and a fully electronic submission process. 2. As result, formatting for a final document such as a dissertation that slavishly follows APA doesn't quite make sense and doesn't look very good. It looks like a journal submission, not a journal article. 3. Requiring faculty and students to make repeated purchases of new revisions is a very big racket. The guide should be available online, totally free.

  • Posted by James , Student at Texas State University on October 13, 2009 at 5:30pm EDT
  • This might be a good time for the APA to transition to a different model altogether. If the current production method creates such a problem, why not go digital? If the APA style manual is so important to the various disciplines that use it, a different economic model can surely be found to compensate the APA for its efforts. Entrenched publishing interests aside, I think most of us would prefer an electronic reference anyway--one less book to tote around.

  • APA MESS
  • Posted by Ridiculous , North Carolina on October 13, 2009 at 8:15pm EDT
  • This is ludicrous! I just purchased this book 10/3/09 and naturally placed my name in it. Now what?

  • Go back to 5th edition
  • Posted by Justin , Associate Professor Psychology on October 13, 2009 at 9:00pm EDT
  • Rather than abandoning APA style for MLA or Chicago, we can all just agree to ignore the 6th edition and revert to the 5th.

  • isn't it lovely
  • Posted by Dr. Duke , Gen.Ed.Chair at Keiser University on October 13, 2009 at 9:45pm EDT
  • I ordered new APA manuals for each of my instructors. It's difficult enought to get them to know and use the manuals, but now they are to go and try to understand all the corrections? Really?? Are you kidding? I expect replacements- FREE and IMMEDIATELY! How tragic that the very people who are governing our writing can't get it correct! APA- you know who we are; send us new corrected manuals.

  • APA style is fundamentally flawed.
  • Posted by De_safran , Librarian/ Library on October 14, 2009 at 5:15am EDT
  • APA is fundamentally flawed. It violates the basic rule of library citations "Citations must be reversible." That means I must be able to look at the citation and be able to find the source wihtout question. For example you see a citation to an article by B. Scholar. You remember that Bernard Scholar was your buddy and an expert in the field. While Betty Scholar is someone you never heard of. By looking at an APA style citation, you don't know who wrote the article. If you came to a library to look up B. Scholar and found many authors that fit that name you would not know if you have the right person. The way librarians establish headings for people helps keep authors in an systematic entry format. If two authors with the same name a librarian could distinguish them by adding a middle name or dates.

    In the end many scholarly publications are not exacting in the requirements to follow any particular style sheet. The style sheets are supposed to foster scholarly communications; instead they don't. The editors need to consult with librarians who know both how people look for materials and how to catalog them for optimum retrieval accuracy and efficiency.

  • And that's not all
  • Posted by Tom Couser , Professor, English at Hofstra U on October 14, 2009 at 5:15am EDT
  • The manual, she added, was “very complicated to put together” because it includes 188 style rules and 980 examples. “With so much in the book, it’s unavoidable that we wouldn’t need to make corrections of some kind.”

    Wouldn't/shouldn't that be: it's unavoidable that we WOULD need to make corrections." Fox/hencoop!

  • Why do we even care?
  • Posted by Practical Prof on October 14, 2009 at 11:30am EDT
  • Do reviewers and editors even care about the small-potatoes of APA format? On the rare occasion that a reviewer complains about passive voice or an italics issue, I (and, usually, the editor) laughs. This is what copy-editors are paid to do. Meh.

  • APA Flaws
  • Posted by R. Bogosian , Doctoral student at The George Washington University on October 14, 2009 at 1:00pm EDT
  • Ms. Skutley should do the honorable thing and make provisions to replace the flawed versions with new, unflawed versions of the APA Guide. Any other response will further damage the credibility of the APA and deepen the growing cynicism.

     

  • New heading structure is faulty too
  • Posted by John Cassels , Editor on October 14, 2009 at 1:00pm EDT
  • The errata available online from APA currently amount to about seven pages’ worth. Labeling the typographical errors “nonsignificant,” as APA has done, in no way changes the fact that this represents a ludicrously large proportion of errors for a volume of the 6th edition’s size, and there is no reason to believe that all errors have been found.

    What I’m sure won’t be touched in online corrections—because it’s not just a production mistake, it’s a massive practical and conceptual oversight—is APA’s faulty new heading structure. The 6th edition introduces a five-level heading structure in which levels 3 through 5 are essentially identical: indented, initial-cap-then-lowercase paragraph heading ending with a period. They are differentiated only by appearing in boldface (3), boldface and italic (4), or just italic (5). A five-level heading structure is comparatively complicated and *exists* to allow for varying levels of complexity of subordinated structure within a manuscript. An (it would seem) obvious principle in the creation of a heading structure is that any level of heading should be able to be followed immediately by a lower level heading, because it’s not always the case that a heading is followed by text. What does one do, in 6th edition APA style, if the structure of one’s manuscript demands that a level 3 heading be followed by a level 4 heading? What if a level 4 heading needs to be followed by a level 5?

    Minimizing the importance of the grotesque number of errors, refusing to replace defective product—these represent contempt for the end user, which is itself contemptible, but the botched heading structure represents something else again: glaring intellectual incompetence.

  • Fix it soon
  • Posted by Juan Paulo Ramirez , Consultant at Private on October 14, 2009 at 2:45pm EDT
  • You have to work hard to make people happy again. If you do not, do not expect people buying APA books anymore. Offer a refund to those that bought the book, discounts, Starbucks cards, whatever will take to repair the damage. That's simple.

  • Reply to Sean
  • Posted by Richard , Director, Online Writing Lab on October 14, 2009 at 3:15pm EDT
  • Sean, I really don't disagree with your premise; my objective was to report the way a bunch of grad students viewed APA at the time. However, two quick points:

    1. Any system that results in reducing accuracy and precision of the existing system while adding little or nothing should be viewed as less useful than previous systems. Various posters have mentioned these points when referencing APA here.

    2. If a system is cumbersome and "gets in the way" of the goal—verifying original scholarship--by imposing ever-changing, seemingly arbitrary rules designed to ease the burden on one group of people (publishers) and increase the burden on scholars, one would assume that such a system was not meeting all participant's goals and should be either frozen or jettisoned. One might further argue that the financial balance is rather one-sided here, if you get my drift.

    Many posters here seem to find APA somewhat arbitrary, ever-changing, and have expressed their dislike of it. While your point is well taken regarding Abstracts, since one of my professors was Lewis Leary, an early proponent of the MLA Bibliography, I am biased toward the MLA Bibliography for searching. What is clear is that APA is causing some consternation among its users. At our institution, we have decided to use the previous edition until such time as this situation has resolved itself. Others may do as they wish, of course, but this seems to be a big stink about something that purports to help. You are clearly correct; it is the scholarship that is foremost in this system. The rest is simply window dressing for the most part.

    Cheers!

  • Ditto!
  • Posted by James , Associate Professor at University of Nebraska at Omaha on October 14, 2009 at 4:00pm EDT
  • I can’t add much of substance to what’s been stated by previous posters, other than to say that I’ve rarely seen such unanimity about a subject expressed in an Internet discussion. So I wanted to add my voice to the chorus in the hopes that the sheer volume of complaints will cause the APA to pay attention to the dissatisfaction of its customers (to say nothing of its ethical obligations), and make purchasers of the faulty 6th edition “whole” again.

  • Sign the petition!
  • Posted by Aarre Laakso , Lecturer at University of Michigan - Dearborn on October 14, 2009 at 9:00pm EDT
  • http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/apa6/

  • APA
  • Posted by Beth , Bookshop at Northtec on October 14, 2009 at 9:45pm EDT
  • I have tried to get our distributor to take back the copies that I have sold in our shop so I can give good customer service as according to our consumer guarantee laws it is not fit for purpose - I want to take back the copies I have sold but if I cannot return them for a credit to the publisher then I am out of pocket....ridiculous...... come on APA just bite the bullet and swap them for the revised corrected title!

  • APA -- Beta
  • Posted by Cathy Wilterding , Coordinator for Outreach & Instruction Services at Tarleton State University Dick Smith Library on October 15, 2009 at 5:00am EDT
  • In the future, maybe we all should treat newly "edited" versions of the APA style guide like we do software updates -- wait until the beta test is over and then purchase the corrected version . . . maybe.

  • You have to love it
  • Posted by Lois Kraft , Adjunct Librarian at Lone Star College - North Harris on October 15, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • I find it richly ironic that the same organization that specifies whether a comma in a citation is to be italicized has now issued a four page errata document with the title "Nonsignificant Typographical Errors."

  • overkill
  • Posted by One scruffy prof on October 15, 2009 at 11:30am EDT
  • I rarely publish in an APA journal, thank god. Most of the ones I publish in have a 2 page insert in the first volume of an issue, or on-line, and that is enough to get the job done well. I have always felt the APA manual was overkill and a reilc from when psychology was trying to prove itself to be a 'real' science. It's done that, now let's move to what the rest of the world has figured out.

  • What do you expect from the APA!
  • Posted by DFS on October 15, 2009 at 12:30pm EDT
  • I for one thank God that they're so mired down by minutiae that they're no longer trying to be 'scientific.'

    At last? Free at last from psychobabble?

  • MLA Manual Update
  • Posted by frankly speaking on October 15, 2009 at 6:15pm EDT
  • MLA was recently able to accurately update their style manual, with few errors, no criticism, and happy customers.

  • Two Ways To Avoid Similar Problems in the Future
  • Posted by Richard Stuart , Clinical Professor Emertius, Psychiatry at University of Washington on October 15, 2009 at 8:15pm EDT
  • 1. Stop buying books directly from APA. The member discount is vanishing (e.g. on the Style Manual) so little money will be saved. More important, bookstores accept returns but APA does not. Bookstores, not members or professionals, can be reimbursed by APA for its errors.
    2. All APA members should question APA policies such as this decision to evade responsibility for its mistakes. This is bad business and is an example of other bad business decisions that has put APA in a financial hole.

  • Guidelines for...
  • Posted by Hingehead on October 15, 2009 at 11:30pm EDT
  • So, where in APA does it tell you how to cite an errata slip?

  • Refund or discount
  • Posted by Jez , Psych Student at CLSU, Philippines on October 16, 2009 at 10:45am EDT
  • This is very disappointing.
    As I'm from the Philippines, I had to pay more than $50 US to get a copy of the first edition a few months ago. Now it feels seek to refer to the manual and then search the site for corrections before I make use of the style guide.
    As for me, I think if it'd be too much to have all first edition copies replaced for free, then perhaps the publishers could make necessary considerations by giving discounts to those who'd have their copies replaced with the second printing.

  • Concise Rules of APA Style
  • Posted by Jeff , Illinois New Teacher Collaborative at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign on October 16, 2009 at 12:00pm EDT
  • Will there be any updates to the Concise Rules of APA Style? I looked only at one of the corrections needed for the larger edition (non-concise), and it needs correcting as well.

  • Can we do more than complain?
  • Posted by Stephen Moore , Assistant Professor at State University of New York on October 16, 2009 at 1:45pm EDT
  • We are all voicing complaints - but, is it possible for us to work together and constructively put pressure on the publisher to replace the defective copies. Is there a law school professor among us or someone who has experience with the Better Business Bureau or other methods of applying pressure? We should be able, if we unite, to collectively create a voice that will get the support of state governments. I would be happy at this time to receive replacement for the two copies I purchased.

    Some of the previous comments lead me to believe that some people might be able to sue for stress related illness caused by the trauma of this book interfering with their professional careers.

    Is there one or more of us who has the legal know how to achieve an ethical resolution from this publisher? Please step forward and count me as a supporter.

  • APA needs to do the right thing!
  • Posted by sk99 on October 18, 2009 at 9:30pm EDT
  • I don't know about if all the manuals were spiral bound, but mine is. It seems that if APA really wanted to do the right thing here, they would supply us with a shipping address for these manuals and send us a new one. The returned manuals could have the corrected pages inserted into the spiral bound books, and voila! APA can save face and be kind to the environment, too! If I purchased any other defective product, it could be returned. This is ludicrous! Too bad you can't buy these things from Wal-Mart, I would have already gotten my money back!

  • Ethical and Professional Behavior
  • Posted by Diana Kyle , Psychology at Fullerton College on October 19, 2009 at 4:45pm EDT
  • It would be best if APA did the right thing and furnish students and faculty with a corrected version. If their editing was faulty then it is not the problem of the consumer. In a sense, it is damaged merchandise and I think a full refund is in order. It's sad that APA has not stepped up to the plate and acted professionally. Their excuse for the errors is not anything more than an excuse. Let's move away from APA format and stop this from happening in the future.

  • Posted on October 19, 2009 at 4:45pm EDT
  • I just spoke with the manager of Barnes & Noble in Orland Park. He said that they will continue to sell the first printing of the APA Publication Manual because APA has not recalled them. They have thousands of them in their warehouse and will not be getting any second editions until those are gone! I hope every single library and school instructs their students NOT TO BUY a publication manual until they can get a second printing! What a shameless outrage!

  • Why can't we keep things simple?
  • Posted by DJD90065 on October 22, 2009 at 7:30am EDT
  • I'm back in school, and we have to use APA style in citations and references, and it's making my head spin.

    I just do not for the life of understand why it has to be this complicated.

    Why has there not been a mass revolt and a movement towards, oh, I don't know? simplicity?

    Why not just use numbers for citations (#1, #2, #3, etc.), and then in the references, you cite: author, journal, edition, and article title or author, book, ISBN #.

    I mean, really. I'm all for academic honesty, but putting students and scholars through the wringer like this is for the birds.

  • new ed should be free and online
  • Posted by Liberata , Librarian at Villanova University on October 28, 2009 at 10:00am EDT
  • Personally, I think we're all just validating APA's sense of self-importance by hanging on every change and erratum it issues. I agree with the person who said that APA should just make the revised 6th ed available free online. Come on, APA, there are more important things in life to be concerned about and we have lots of other work to do!

  • Maybe There is a Bigger Problem
  • Posted by Dr. Rob , Dean of Curriculum Development at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary on October 29, 2009 at 11:30am EDT
  • Before I start, let me just apologize to those who may think mine an overly simplistic view. It is obvious by the number of comments and the frustrations they express that educators are rightly upset. However, the very fact that APA has difficulty getting it right I think speaks to a bigger issue. In particular, I think we have made matters of formatting, referencing, and citation of sources overly complicated. I always thought that our primary objective was to ensure that our papers (or our student's papers) are formatted properly (i.e. double-spaced, paragraph indentations, 1" borders, and properly cited sources [parenthetics,endnotes, footnotes, etc.]), and free of plagiarism. You would think that a simple, user friendly manual could be created. Instead, writer's manuals keep getting longer and longer and more complicated. No wonder APA has a mess on their hand. Another example would be Turabian. The 6th edition was a well-written, relatively user friendly manual of 308, 8.5 x 5.5 inch pages. The 7th edition is a manual of 466, 9 x 6 inch pages utilizing significantly smaller font. I am a staunch proponent of writing standards, but I also believe we need to reverse the trend of an ever-increasing number of writing rules. How can we expect our students to get it right, if APA gets it wrong. I am a firm believer in the old adage, "Keep it simple stupid."

  • Ludicrous, A Shameless Outrage
  • Posted by Joan Anderson , former technical editor at American Psychological Association on January 10, 2010 at 5:15pm EST
  • I am saddened to read about this fiasco. In my day, under managing editor Helen Orr, APA's journal program took enormous pride in producing a style manual that was widely used and highly respected. As to irony, I was once called out on the carpet by Helen, gracious woman though she was, for having let misspelled "prestigeous" slip by in a description of the Journal of Experimental Psychology. Editor Dave Grant hit the roof. Being a technical editor was ALL ABOUT being a "nit picker": not only knowing rules of English grammar, but slavishly looking at every little space, em-dash versus n-dash, and other mark of punctuation. In those days of linotype production, we were even required to look carefully for instances where a character of metal type might be broken (resulting in a hairline split). Today, assuming tech editors have automatic spell-check capabilities to assist in their work, it is appalling that a professional editor would make lame excuses for being otherwise incompetent in so many ways. Ms. Skutley not only uses double negatives in a business letter, but also assumes an air of patronizing "authority" that is disgusting. I wouldn't be sending complaints to her, however, but rather to the President of the APA membership (elected), to members of the Publications Board, and to the Executive Director (hired) to whom Ms. Skutley ultimately reports and at whose pleasure she supposedly serves. The buck stops somewhere; it's still a nonprofit organization; and people who've gotten only major aggravation for $50 deserve more than just a newly printed book from APA. They and the members of APA deserve assurance that this sort of thing won't happen again -- from someone who is more truly accountable for the reputation of the organization. Only Emperor Skutley's new clothes have been transparent here, and even I feel ashamed for her.