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November 6, 2009

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DENVER — When does a library cease to be a library?

What started as a debate over whether brick-and-mortar libraries would survive much further into the 21st century turned into an existential discussion on the definition of libraries, as a gathering of technologists here at the 2009 Educause Conference pondered the evolution of one of higher education’s oldest institutions.

“Let’s face it: the library, as a place, is dead,” said Suzanne E. Thorin, dean of libraries at Syracuse University. “Kaput. Finito. And we need to move on to a new concept of what the academic library is.”

Thorin prefaced her comments by saying that for the purposes of the debate she would be taking an extreme position on the fate of libraries. But her argument tapped into theories about the obsolescence of libraries — traditionally defined — that have grown along with the emergence of Web-based reference tools, e-books, digitized and born-digital content, and other technologies that some see as changing essential library functions.

“The scientists have mostly gone online with their library needs,” Thorin said. “Cutting-edge scholars in the humanities are building new disciplines and online environments are are, in effect, libraries themselves; they are diffuse, collaborative, non-hierarchical, always changing.”

Certain major research universities, she noted, have even begun moving their books to off-campus storage facilities due to space issues and a diminishing need for on-site hard copies. Libraries everywhere are eliminating pricey subscriptions to printed academic journals, often opting for less expensive digital versions.

Despite the objections of “a minority of very loud faculty members,” Thorin said, the days of wandering through the stacks are over. “People,” she told the audience, of whom many were librarians, “the world has changed, and so have your students, and so have your faculty!”

Richard E. Luce, director of university libraries at Emory University, countered that just because libraries are transitioning from print to online does not mean they will cease to be libraries.

“The issue is really about library as place, whether you need the bricks and mortar,” Luce said. “So let’s look at that.” Why did thousands of college technologists come to Educause? “To interact with one another — to talk, to collaborate, to think, to communicate, to be with one another,” he said. “Isn’t that what we do in our best libraries?”

The library still is, and will continue to be, the centerpiece of a campus, Luce said. The history of libraries, he said, has been marked by evolution: They were founded as places where materials were collected and stored. Then they shifted their focus toward connecting clients with resources. Then, with the addition of creature comforts such as coffee shops, they became "experience" centered, effectively rendering student unions obsolete.

“Now, in the fourth generation, we’re really seeing the library as a place to connect, collaborate, learn, and really synthesize all four of those roles together,” said Luce. “How do you do that without bricks and mortar?”

One audience member commented that libraries are defined more by what they do than what they look like. While new technologies might be replacing print collections, she said, they are not replacing librarians — whose roles as research guides have become more even important as available resources have multiplied.

“I think it’s important to look at the type of reference question that’s asked,” she said. “If you look at the READ Scale, which is a tool used to assess the complexity of a question that is asked, the number of directional and simple … questions has dropped, because we’ve provided the tools to make answering those questions easy.

“If you look at the number of more difficult, research-oriented questions,” she continued, “we find it has grown as the complexity of the tools to provide answers to those questions has become more intense.”

Although they nominally represented opposing sides of the debate, Thorin and Luce agreed that while the functions and appearance of libraries will likely change, nobody’s about to tear them down just because they have fewer books and more social spaces.

“Maybe the whole idea of ‘Is the library, as a place, dead or not,’ maybe this is a red herring,” Thorin said. “…Maybe the question is, ‘Who knows what the library means anymore?’ ”

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  • Libraries. . .getting the job done
  • Posted by Pat Moran , Adj. Instructor, Florida Campus at Troy [State] University on November 6, 2009 at 10:15am EST
  • Having a virtual library, instead of an on-campus "brick and books" library, is like being married without love. It gets the job done, but there's a whole 'nother thing that is missing.

  • Now If They Wanted a Real Debate About Libraries...
  • Posted by stevenb on November 6, 2009 at 10:15am EST
  • they would have invited Adrian Sanier from ASU to debate both Thorin and Luce. After all, he is the CIO who said that libraries are just big air conditioners for books and that if he was starting a university from scratch he'd have no library building at all. Put two ARL directors in a room and I don't think either one is going to tell you that library buildings are obsolete.

  • Digital Access Growing, But Students Still in Library
  • Posted by Michelle Young , Director of Libraries at Clarkson University on November 6, 2009 at 11:15am EST
  • Clarkson University, here in Potsdam, N.Y., pioneered the digital library when we defied convention by opening our Educational Resources Center in 1980.

    Featured on the Today Show and in the New York Times, it was said that libraries had entered an era of "no growth." This concept, called for by professional librarians of the time, stemmed from the expected computer networks, which would make it almost a "bookless library."

    Nearly 30 years later, print books haven't disappeared although we now offer thousands of electronic books to our users. Digital access is especially desired today in the world of research journals, but most online resources actually cost more to purchase and manage than their printed counterparts. We continue to move to all electronic access, but it does take great financial and staffing resources.

    Our students aren't just virtual visitors to our library, though. They're still accessing the library from within its walls, using the spaces for collaborative work, making it an academic hub on campus. We added a new addition with more space for interdisciplinary teamwork last year and next year the library will even be directly connected by a bridge to our new student center.

    Also, through a unique alliance with three other nearby college and university libraries, and working with state-wide collaborations with information delivery partners, our students can have most books and journals in their hands or on their computers within 24 hours.

    It will be interesting to see if technology like the Kindle spurs the transition to the bookless library that was predicted in 1980.

  • Enough e-books?
  • Posted by Sandy Thatcher , Penn State University Press on November 6, 2009 at 11:15am EST
  • Thorin's vision overlooks the hard reality that, while the scholarly journal literature has mostly migrated to the digital environment successfully, the scholarly book literature has not. So, unless she wants to give up on books as a valuable medium for the transmission of knowledge, libraries will still need to house physical books for some time to come. Experiments are under way to make more of the monographic literature available electronically, but it will take years to catch up to the journal literature.--Sandy Thatcher

  • Change is constant
  • Posted by cm on November 6, 2009 at 11:30am EST
  • I laughed when I read that library coffee carts had made the student union obsolete. Both our library and student union are heavily used vibrant buildings. They are both very different from the spaces and services they offered even 5 years ago and will be different still in 10 years. Both buildings have been and continue to be expanded and remodeled. Neither will be disappearing any time soon.

  • "We used to own the books"
  • Posted by HistoryProf on November 6, 2009 at 11:45am EST
  • Just you wait until your university library doesn't own the paper copies of anything any more. Then the provider who owns the PDF versions of books and journals will jack up the price. What will you do then?

    Recently I gave my many years' worth of copies of the leading journal in my field to a young faculty member, for whom they are a treasure. But I wasn't being altruistic. I needed the shelf space, and I thought, "Hey, I can always consult these volumes in the library." Surprise! The electronic holdings don't go back far enough to be complete, and our library is in the process of getting rid of the paper ones.

    But it saves money in the short run, and isn't that what education is all about?

  • Such a deal!
  • Posted by Christine Kidd , VP for Information Resources at Palo Alto University on November 6, 2009 at 2:00pm EST
  • "Libraries everywhere are eliminating pricey subscriptions to printed academic journals, often opting for less expensive digital versions." -- Steve Kolowich

    Really? Publishers have caught up with the digital world. They are charging Libraries the same rates for digital journals as they did for the print journals of yore. The notion that e-journals (and e-books) are somehow less expensive to purchase, catalog, and manage than print journals is simply a myth.

  • Librarians without libraries
  • Posted by Dean on November 6, 2009 at 2:15pm EST
  • At least as worthy of attention is the human capital in libraries. What's the future for librarians? In an age of information abundance, there is an essential role for someone who can separate the wheat from the chaff, the insightful from drivel. Is that a librarian or an editor? Another essential role is someone who understands the multitude of ways and formats that information and culture have been displayed and stored--someone who can aid individuals and institutions in navigating through that thicket. A librarian or an archivist?

  • What do undergraduate students need vs. want?
  • Posted by JV , Professor, Bankier Library at Brookdale Community College on November 6, 2009 at 3:45pm EST
  • As community college librarian for over twenty-five years, I have always worked with students who need to build a general intellectual infrastructure. Academic libraries are the ideal place, both physically and remotely, for this to happen. The information content can be in traditional books or new online products, but it is also the significant role of the academic librarian to assist in the discovery and use of these sources. Today, librarians are reaching out to students through the use of electronic communication mediums as well. Time will tell how well students are able to learn via all these new modalities. As for me, I personally advocate face to face learning interactions as much as possible, with the use of whatever is the most appropriate source to provide the content that is needed.

  • With Print we paid once. Now we pay for every access.
  • Posted by Ted Willi , InfoDesk at Emory University on November 6, 2009 at 3:45pm EST
  • With print, an institution bought once and had years of usage, including sharing through ILL. Now, with print collections "going away", electronic access is priced like heroin or ink-jet cartridges! Without competition, prices only go higher. Libraries are hooked.

  • But What About Librarians?
  • Posted by Tracey Simon , Director at Floral Park Library on November 6, 2009 at 8:15pm EST
  • Libraries, as a place, need to redefined. But no one mentions librarians. All of us who wish to be working in the future have been learning how to work with new digital media, all the while trying not to neglect traditional media. Librarians are still necessary, as those who believe Google is the end-all-and-be-all of research still come to us to authenticate what they've found.

  • It ain't just a river in Egypt
  • Posted by Cleapatra on November 7, 2009 at 6:00am EST
  • Great Isis! Does anyone posting on this thread read the newspaper? Maybe then they'd know that all the print media are in trouble.

  • Bookless academy
  • Posted by Mamie on November 7, 2009 at 1:30pm EST
  • Cushing Academy in MA has already gone bookless. Reading is now done on Kindles.
    The headmaster likens books to scrolls.
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/09/04/a_library_without_the_books/

  • Posted by Barbara Fister on November 8, 2009 at 2:15pm EST
  • I have theory that there's a new marketing strategy in use, one that Amazon has used to great effect: do something so stupendously stupid that it gets lots of media attention. Cushing Academy got a lot of press for making a spectacularly boneheaded decision. In a year or two we may forget why we've heard of Cushing Academy, but the name will be familiar.

    The CIO Steven mentions in his comment actually suggested universities should burn their libraries down because Google had digitized all the books. A lot of pronouncements about the future of libraries are based on ignorance about the digital reality - its limits and its costs.

  • Libraries without print
  • Posted by Barbara Combes , Lecturer - LIS at School of Computer Science and Security on November 9, 2009 at 5:15am EST
  • Unfortunately for those misguided people around the world who propose no books/print there are a couple of major issues.

    1. We publish more in print now than at any other time in our history - just differently.

    2. Some things are only available in print due to copyright and IP, especially in academia.

    3. Most authoritative electronic information is available only via the Invisible/Deep Web, In other words it costs lots of $$$$, is subscription and Web-based and unavailable if the company selling the electronic access fails. ie there are no past copies on the shelf. Libraries only pay for access to the databases.

    4. Research is showing that there are major issues with students being able to access quality information and read/interrogate/make meaning from text on screen. Students have poor information literacy skills and tend to rely on Google and the free/public domain Web. They rarely know where they are in virtual space and have poor evaluation skills - cannot tell good from mediocre or even misinformation.

  • trendy library types
  • Posted by Michael Neumann , Professor, Department of Philosophy at Trent Unversity on November 9, 2009 at 8:00am EST
  • This author is a poser who laps up the tech buzz and pretends to expertise. The tech realities are very different. Many important books aren't scanned; intellectual property hysteria assures they *never* will be. Many are scanned to something only marginally useful, not excluding Google's ungainly, hamfisted PDFs which include colour images of the covers. Many exist only as virtually useless page images. As others have suggested, many good digital sources will be beyond the financial reach of many institutions. If many researchers are content to stick with on-line sources, that shows nothing but that they're not serious researchers. Presumably libraries should at least permit serious research to be conducted.

  • Place vs. Space
  • Posted by Darla Wegener , Director of Library Services at Lincoln Public Library on November 9, 2009 at 12:45pm EST
  • Libraries need to be a "place" not just "space". The library needs to be a place students want to come to not just to study quietly or check out items, but to engage in an interactive world.

    Online resources are great. When I was a grad student I couldn't live without them. But electronics will never replace the old fashion book or the feeling of community that a good library produces.

    Why is it always one extreme or the other? The electronic library can co-exist with the modern library space. I've seen it happen at libraries across the country.

    It just seems that some universities are behind the times with this concept. That jumping to a system where there is little to no interaction with students, professors, etc. will solve the problem. It doesn't solve it, they just come to the public library instead.

  • And what happens when the electronic media decay/change?
  • Posted by Mary Soderstrom , Writer/Independent researcher on November 10, 2009 at 11:00am EST
  • Am I alone in worrying that were are headed toward a time, say a couple of hundred years from now, when the electronic media storing journals and scanned books will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to access? Oh, you may assure me, those who publish/scan for electronic use will see that the systems used are constantly updated. But who has tried to open even a Word file from one of the early versions? Compatibility should not be taken for granted. And if, shudder!, there were a disaster that knocked out Google or Elsevier's systems what would we do then?

    Books and hardcopy journals may indeed prove to be the scrolls or the illuminated manuscripts of a future time, and those libraries remaining could be as important to the continuation of civilization as those monks in Irelandthose copies of Plato and Aristotle translated into Arabic were.

  • Libraries are so much mors than book repositories
  • Posted by Barbara Combes , Lecturer School of Computer and Security Science at Edith Cowan University on November 11, 2009 at 9:00pm EST
  • Just thought I add this to the discussion. What many oberservers who rarely enter a 21st century library fail to recognise is that libraries are so much more than repositories for books. For the general public they are community spaces that offer a range of resources, meeting spaces, community/family spaces and access to expertise, and free or low cost training and technology services such as the Internet for those who cannot afford it.

    Similarly for students - our libraries have just been refurbished and they are packed wall-to-wall with students. Some university libraries are physically open 24/7 due to demand - the virtual services are always available. The new national library in Amsterdam is magnificent, receives thousands of visitors every day, especially students. On a Tuesday afternoon there was barely breathing space. And best of all - there are information specialists/scientists (aka librarians) available to assist you when the overcrowded/overloaded, incredibly dense and immense Web means you can't find what you need.

    Libraries are publishers, gatekeepers and keymasters to a world of information that is rapidly moving beyond the self-service idea promised by the Internet. In Nov 2004 Google announced it was searching 11Billion web pages - they have stopped counting now. The new version of the search engine now uses an algorithm that builds a searcher profile - to cut down the number of hits. The alogorithm is based on popularity any way, can be easily manipulated (Google bombing) and often does not give you the best, most relevant results for your search - and that's only if it is available on the public domain Web (5-8%).

    For pre-university students, much of the content on the Web is not available at their reading level nor is it appropriate for curriculum needs. Libraries are so much more than books and the professional personnel who staff them offer so much more than equity of access to information for all citizens - the raison d'etre for the existence of libraries and a worthy one.