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May 1, 2006

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In response to the scandal surrounding the men's lacrosse team, Duke president Richard Brodhead has initiated a "conversation on campus culture." The first installment provided little insight. To Mark Anthony Neal, a professor of African and African-American Studies, recent events showed that "we need an innovative and brave curriculum that will allow our students to engage one another in a progressive manner." It's worth remembering that only two years ago at Neal's institution, a department chairman jokingly explained the faculty's ideological imbalance by noting, "If, as John Stuart Mill said, stupid people are generally conservative, then there are lots of conservatives we will never hire." It seems rather unlikely that Duke's curriculum lacks a sufficiently "progressive" nature.

Indeed, far from needing a more "progressive" campus culture, the lacrosse scandal suggests that a considerable portion of the Duke faculty and student body need to reread the Constitution and consider the accused -- regardless of their group identity -- innocent until proven guilty. Moreover, if, as Duke officials have claimed, Brodhead seriously desires to use this event as a "learning opportunity," he needs to explore why voices among the faculty urging local authorities to respect the due process rights of Duke's students seemed so overpowered by professors exhibiting a rush to judgment.

In early April, prior to his peculiar commentary on campus culture, Professor Neal joined 87 other Duke professors in signing a public statement about the scandal. Three academic departments and 13 of the university'ss academic programs also endorsed the statement, which was placed as an advertisement in the student  newspaper, The Duke Chronicle, and is currently hosted on the Web site of Duke's African and African-American Studies program. That 88 faculty members -- much less entire departments -- would have signed on to such a document suggests that whatever plagues Duke's campus culture goes beyond the lacrosse team's conduct and the administration's insufficient oversight of its athletic department.

Few would deny that several players on Duke's lacrosse team have behaved repulsively. Two team captains hired exotic dancers, supplied alcohol to underage team members, and concluded a public argument with one of the dancers with racial epithets. In response, Brodhead appropriately cancelled the team's season and demanded the coach's resignation. Yet the faculty members' statement ignored Brodhead's actions, and instead contributed to the feeding frenzy in the weeks before the district attorney's decision to indict two players on the team.

The 88 signatories affirmed that they were "listening" to a select group of students troubled by sexism and racism at Duke. Yet 8 of the 11 quotes supplied from students to whom these professors had been talking, 8 contained no attribution -- of any sort, even to the extent of claiming to come from anonymous Duke students. Nonetheless, according to the faculty members, "The disaster didn't begin on March 13th and won't end with what the police say or the court decides." It's hard to imagine that college professors could openly dismiss how the ultimate legal judgment would shape this case's legacy. Such sentiments perhaps explain why no member of the Duke Law School faculty signed the letter.

More disturbingly, the group of 88 committed themselves to "turning up the volume." They told campus protesters, "Thank you for not waiting and for making yourselves heard." These demonstrators needed no encouragement: They were already vocal, and had already judged the lacrosse players were guilty. One student group produced a "wanted" poster containing photographs of 43 of the 46 white lacrosse players. At an event outside a house rented by several lacrosse team members, organized by a visiting instructor in English Department, protesters held signs reading, "It's Sunday morning, time to confess." They demanded that the university force the players to testify or dismiss them from school.

The public silence of most Duke professors allowed the group of 88 to become, in essence, the voice of the faculty. In a local climate that has featured an appointed district attorney whose behavior, at the very least, has been erratic, the Duke faculty might have forcefully advocated respecting the due process rights of all concerned. After all, fair play and procedural integrity are supposed to be cardinal principles of the academy. In no way would such a position have endorsed the players' claim to innocence: Due process exists because the Anglo-Saxon legal tradition has determined it elemental to achieving the truth. But such process-based arguments have remained in short supply from the Duke faculty. Instead, the group of 88 celebrated "turning up the volume" and proclaimed that legal findings would not deter their campaign for justice.

When faced with outside criticism -- about, for example, a professor who has plagiarized or engaged in some other form of professional misconduct, or in recent high-profile controversies like those involving Ward Churchill at the University of Colorado -- academics regularly condemn pressure for quick resolutions and celebrate their respect for addressing matters through time-tested procedures. Such an approach, as we have frequently heard since the 9/11 attacks, is essential to prevent a revival of McCarthyism on college campuses.

Yet for unapologetically urging expulsion on the basis of group membership and unproven allegations, few professors have more clearly demonstrated a McCarthyite spirit better than another signatory to of the faculty statement, Houston Baker, a professor of English and Afro-American Studies. Lamenting the "college and university blind-eying of male athletes, veritably given license to rape, maraud, deploy hate speech, and feel proud of themselves in the bargain," Baker issued a public letter denouncing the "abhorrent sexual assault, verbal racial violence, and drunken white male privilege loosed amongst us." To act against "violent, white, male, athletic privilege," he urged the "immediate dismissals" of "the team itself and its players."

Duke Provost Peter Lange correctly termed Baker's diatribe "a form of prejudice," the "act of prejudgment: to presume that one knows something 'must' have been done by or done to someone because of his or her race, religion or other characteristic." It's hard to escape the conclusion that, for Baker and many others who signed the faculty statement, the race, class, and gender of the men's lacrosse team produced a guilty-until-proven-innocent mentality.

Baker's attacks on athletics added a fourth component to the traditional race/class/gender trinity. It's an open secret that at many academically prestigious schools, some faculty factions desire diminishing or eliminating intercollegiate athletics, usually by claiming that athletes are lazy students, receive special treatment, or drive down the institution's intellectual quality. In fact, with the exception of the two revenue-producing sports (men's basketball and football), the reverse is more often true at colleges like Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, or the Ivy League institutions.

I admit to a bias on this score: My sister was a three-year starter at point guard for the Columbia University women's basketball team. Seeing how hard she worked to remain a dean's list student and fulfill her athletic responsibilities gave me a first-hand respect for the challenges facing varsity athletes at academically rigorous institutions. In addition to the responsibilities sustained by most students (challenging course loads, extracurricular activities, often campus jobs), athletes in non-revenue producing sports have physically demanding practice schedules, in-season road trips, and commitments to spend time with alumni or recruits. They play before small crowds, and envision no professional careers. It's distressing to see that many in the academy share Baker's prejudices, and view participation in college athletics as a negative.

With the most vocal elements among Duke's faculty using the lacrosse case to forward preconceived ideological and pedagogical agendas, it has been left to undergraduates to question some of the district attorney's unusual actions --  such as conducting a photo lineup that included only players on the team, sending police to a Duke dormitory in an attempt to interrogate the players outside the presence of their lawyers, and securing indictments before searching the players' dorm rooms, receiving results of a second DNA test, or investigating which players had documented alibis. In the words of a recent Newsweek article, the lawyer for one indicted player, Reade Seligmann, produced multiple sources of "evidence that would seem to indicate it was virtually impossible that Seligmann committed the crime." To date, the 88 faculty members who claimed to be "listening" to Duke students have given no indication of listening to those undergraduates concerned about the local authorities' unusual interpretation of the spirit of due process. Nor, apparently, do the faculty signatories seem to hear what The Duke Chronicle editorial termed the  "several thousand others of us" students who disagreed that "Duke breeds cultures of hate, racism, sexism and other forms of backward thinking."

The Raleigh News and Observer recently editorialized, "Duke faculty members, many of them from the '60s and '70s generations that pushed college administrators to ease their controlling ways, now are urging the university to require greater social as well as scholastic discipline from students. Duke professors, in fact, are offering to help draft new behavior codes for the school. With years of experience and academic success to their credit, faculty members ought to be listened to." If the group of 88's statement is any guide, this advice is dubious. Even so, Brodhead has named two signatories of the faculty group to the newly formed "campus culture" committee. Given their own record, it seems unlikely that their committee will explore why Duke's campus culture featured its most outspoken faculty faction rushing to judgment rather than seeking to uphold the due process rights of their own institution's students.
 

KC Johnson is a professor of history at Brooklyn College and the City University of New York Graduate Center.

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Comments on Duke's Poisoned Campus Culture

  • Posted by Michael on July 9, 2007 at 5:10am EDT
  • As a alumnus of Duke University, I am appalled that these 88 professors representing more than a dozen academic departments think that they can sit in their tenured academic chairs and rush to judgements before the case could be investigated. They should be ashamed of themselves. If they thought it was politically correct to appear "sensitive" to the allegations (now found completely false), they should now be humble enough to admit their mistakes and take out a similar newspaper ad and publicly apologize to those they hurted when they added fuel to the fire.
    I worry about the fact that such a high percentage of Duke faculty thinks and acts as this Group of 88 examplified. What will Duke president Brodhead plan to do about the Group of 88?.

  • The Duke 88
  • Posted by AM at Too many to list on August 25, 2007 at 6:00pm EDT
  • As an educator who kept a position in academia because of my performance and not because of my tenure, I'm disgusted at the premature actions of the Duke 88. Had the situation been reversed and those 88 professors had been accused and tried in the media while the student population penned a document that the professors were guilty until proven innocent, we'd be reading a different story. Those 88 professors owe an apology not to the lacrosse team, but to all students. There is due process and those academicians in their tenured Ivory Towers jumped the gun. Just another shining example of why tenure should be done away with.

  • Reservations
  • Posted by Ralph Luker on May 1, 2006 at 4:40am EDT
  • There's no necessary contradiction between "listening" to what student protesters at Duke have to say about the campus student culture and recognizing, even insisting on, due process rights for other students who are accused. The University administration has been very careful to restrict its actions to established precident for suspending students. The statement of the 88 faculty members is prompted by the lacrosse-playing students' behavior, but it speaks to a history of their misconduct that had been tolerated in prior administrations.

  • Innocent until proven guilty
  • Posted by Peter Plagens on May 1, 2006 at 7:25am EDT
  • "Innocent until proven guilty," Professor Johnson should know, applies to jurisprudence, i.e., neither of the accused Duke lacrosse players can, or should, be imprisoned or otherwise punished by the state of North Carolina until proven guilty in a court of law. On the other hand, Duke University can--and in my opinion should--take other action without waiting for a jury's verdict on the two players accused of rape. The preponderance of evidence suggests that the lacrosse team has long engaged engaging in behavior that, while perhaps short of legally felonious, is patently repulsive and disgraceful by any standards reasonable for an academic institution. Terminating lacrosse as a team sport and expelling all the players who attended the party (strippers, underage drinking, pervasive drunkenness, racial epithets hurled at passersby--listen to the 911 calls!--etc.) are two measures that, while needing to undergo Duke's interior procedures, the university should take. Working hard at one's sport and playing untelevised before small crowds does not entitle certain athletes to become a "warrior" subculture unbeholden to the rules of conduct affecting other students. (If the chess club had a track record like the lacrosse team's, and had held a similar party...)

  • Duke Lacrosse team
  • Posted by feudi pandola on May 1, 2006 at 8:25am EDT
  • Judging by the media stories so far, Duke did the best thing by canceling the lacrosse season. This team has a long history of dreadful conduct. They deserve harsh sanctions. However, that does not excuse the obvious rush to judgment among the Duke faculty.

    I heard the 911 calls and I'm not nearly as sure as the previous poster they were not part of a scam. I did hear the white girl "say" she heard racial epithets but none were audible on the tape I heard. I also heard the cop say that the woman claiming rape was passed out drunk in the car.

    This is why we have a legal system. Let it work and cool the rhetoric on both sides.

  • Go Away, All of You. Please!
  • Posted by Unapologetically Tenured on May 1, 2006 at 9:15am EDT
  • KC Johnson, this is not about you.

    Houston Baker, this is not about you.

    Why is that whenever any controversial situation occurs on campus, every Johnny-one-note culture warrior has to get into the act, explaining to the rest of us the REAL SIGNIFICANCE of the event? I mean, I know this is how the cable TV "news" networks draw in enough viewers to meet their payrolls, but we're academics. That means we should strive for a perspective just a tiny bit more nuanced than that of Lou Dobbs or Bill O'Reilly.

    I'm picking on Johnson here because it's his essay, but the culture warriors of the left are just as irritating.

    Seriously, did anyone learn anything new from this article? Or was it just another chance for everyone to get that pathetic little shot of adrenaline that comes from lining up on opposite sides of an ideological divide and shouting angrily at one other.

    The problem, of course, is that KC Johnson has no idea what happened in Durham, and neither do you, and neither do I. But that doesn't stop him from laying out the usual litany of hackneyed right-wing talking points about radical professors and their "race/class/gender trinity". He even manages to find a way to drag Ward Churchill's name into the piece.

    This website would be a great deal more useful if it would deal more with the important questions affecting academics and less with this sort of tired, cliche-ridden drivel. The proper authorities will figure out how to deal with the situation at Duke. In the meantime, could all of you culture-warriors out there just go away, retreat to your blogs, and leave the rest of us to do the real work--the important work--of academia?

    Seriously. Your act has gotten old. Go away.

  • Responses
  • Posted by KC Johnsonq , Professor of History at Brooklyn College on May 1, 2006 at 11:15am EDT
  • Many thanks to those who have taken the time to read the piece and reply.

    In response to Peter Plagens, I should say that at Cliopatria, a blog for which I write, I explicitly praised the Duke president for terminating the lacrosse season and demanding the coach's resignation, which struck me as perfectly appropriate responses to the pattern of bad behavior about which you write (and are extremely draconian penalties).

    On my Cliopatria colleague Ralph Luker's point, I agree completely that "there’s no necessary contradiction between 'listening' to what student protesters at Duke have to say about the campus student culture and recognizing, even insisting on, due process rights for other students who are accused." But in this particular circumstance, there is a contradiction. The Group of 88's statement explicitly encouraged--and even thanked--the protesters who were proclaiming the players guilty of rape--thereby going well beyond listening and entering into the guilty-until-proven innocent category. It's hard for me to see how that action can be reconciled with insisting on due process rights of the students who have been accused (especially since the Group of 88, to my knowledge, hasn't seen fit to release any statement on this point).

    As for "Unapologetically Tenured," there seems to be a bit of anger in his/her anonymous reply . . . But I'm not certain when wondering why a college's faculty hasn't done more to stand up for the due process rights of their own institution's students came to constitute "right-wing talking points."

  • responding to Unapologetically Tenured
  • Posted by Margaet L. King , Professor of History at Brooklyn College, CUNY on May 1, 2006 at 11:15am EDT
  • Surely it is one of the important questions affecting academics that so many of our Duke colleagues rushed to take a position on the lacrosse team scandal before the facts were out in the open. A failure of scholarly temperament; a dereliction of duty, perhaps?

  • Posted by sasserbic on May 1, 2006 at 11:15am EDT
  • bravo, unapologetically tenured.

  • DUKE LAX
  • Posted by TT on May 1, 2006 at 1:45pm EDT
  • And another Bravo to "unapologetically tenured." -Former coach and tenured professor

  • Right wing boot lickers
  • Posted by Dr. F. Gump on May 1, 2006 at 3:10pm EDT
  • Ah yes, listen to the rabid agitators for "justice" without due process.

    Josef Stalin got results without all this hand-wringing about which individuals were guilty or not. A small series of mass expulsions will quiet those moronic student athletes.

    Without a strong patriarch's hand to lead this lesson, mob rule will suffice. Brandish the torches and pitchforks; save the courtroom unncessary wear.

  • Counterproductive Bunker Mentality
  • Posted by JBM on May 1, 2006 at 3:10pm EDT
  • If the schools are going to save themselves, they will have to do more than demand that people who ask questions and even dare to dissent, "just go away."

    But then again, I in no way expect that people will find it in their characters to do anything more than just chant "Go away" the minute questions or dissent crop up. That is why the schools are in the dire straits they're in.

  • I’m Joining The Resistance
  • Posted by RWH on May 1, 2006 at 3:10pm EDT
  • I must own up to the fact that I have a close friend who is a full professor at Duke, so I have heard some “reliable” second-hand gossip about this event ... as opposed to the third- and fourth-hand accounts we see in the media.

    That said, move over sasserbic and IT ... as someone with 45 years of teaching experience and as a two-sport scholarship athlete back in the day, I’m getting behind Unapologetically Tenured too.

  • pretty cool debate
  • Posted by Larry on May 1, 2006 at 3:45pm EDT
  • I have to admit that it is pretty cool that someone can connect Stripper-gate to Ward Churchill, and mixing McCarthy in, too. Whatever the case, Mr. Churchill, by virtue of what counts as “due process” in his arena, has not been found to have done anything wrong. But this doesn’t stop people from condemning him, and some academics and bloggers seem to scream “Churchill” with glee at any chance they get.

    But, I love it when athletes are called victims. These kids are treated with kid gloves. Given breaks. They don’t need to measure up to the same standards are regular students. They have their hands held at every moment, and usually their misdeeds are excused.

    Of course, there is nothing wrong to “listening” to political discourse. Indeed, if all athletics were abolished tomorrow for this reason – or any reason – no athlete would be deprived due process (at least as a constitutional matter.) Duke need not necessarily offer students the same type of process that students at a public school would receive, but they still must follow the terms of their contract with students which puts them in virtually the same position. (The “contract” may include written documents, legally and factually implied rights, and other things.)

    Peter, It is worth nothing that imprisonment, as a constitutional matter is not necessarily punished, and legally innocent people are routinely imprisoned pending trial. Of course, if they can make bail, as college students usually can, they are less likely to spend their pre-trial time in jail.

  • Posted by Melanie Wilson on May 1, 2006 at 5:35pm EDT
  • Unlike Houston Baker's letter or the Duke faculty's advertisement, Johnson's article doesn't claim one way or the other to know what happened at the incident, but it only criticizes the behavior of Duke profs in the wake of the scandal. I guess unapologetically tenured believes that anyone who criticizes the actions of the Duke faculty--who are also unapologetically tenured--should just "go away."

    Colleges spend lots of money recruiting parents with the promise that their children will get quality, hands-on attention from the faculty. Based on the kind of behavior we've seen from Duke profs over the last six weeks, parents would have to be crazy to send their sons to Duke.

  • A former DOOK neighbor
  • Posted by B.J. on May 1, 2006 at 9:45pm EDT
  • I lived across from the DOOK campus for five years. I think I know them, pretty good. To be clear:

    * There are a lot of spoiled brats at DOOK. If they don't get what they want -- say foreign-language TV -- they get out the black
    AMEX and buy it.

    * No one's getting a medal for the LAX party.
    President Brodhead was right to cancel the LAX season. It's a mess, and it needs to be cleaned up. They need a couple of Coach K's to read the student-athletes the riot act.

    * So many prosecutorial mistakes have been made in the case -- viz. Newsweek's revelation that the line-up was botched -- a special prosecutor ought to be named.

    * Lar, ol' bud -- Mr. Churchill is *still*
    under investigation by CU for alleged academic fraud. Plus, he wrote that the WTC dead were "little Eichmann's." Hardly a role model, pal.

    * UT: you want to deal with something
    serious? Why not explain why the
    average college graduate leaves with $20,000 in debt, as costs keep climbing? What have you and your peers done about reducing that burden on students?

  • Equal treatment under the law
  • Posted by Dr. F. Gump on May 1, 2006 at 10:35pm EDT
  • Wagers now being accepted on: the next windmill over the horizon with which to verbally joust?

    (hints)

    60 - 70 hour work weeks during season.
    Enforced study hall time, even on the airplane or bus.

    Enforced eating (training table) schedule and body-building "nutrients."

    Arbitrary and capricious layoffs when another gender wants a sport of its own.

    Sacrificing life and limb to earn money to support those other sports.

    Regular falsification of documents to keep slaves eligible for gladiator ring.

    Mandatory anger-management classes when said slave's frustrations over being treated like a pampered pit-bull?

    Early retirement with no benefits when injuries render one useless for the pit.

    Infinitesimal chance to actually turn the slave experience into 5 or 6 years of paid stardom (with continuing risk of injury or aggrevation of earlier injuries) and a chance to have some respect as a human pit-bull.

    Strong likelihood of early (but merciful) demise by self-administered alcohol or other pain-killing drugs.

    (drum roll) Tune in next month . . .

  • Did Churchill play Lacrosse ?
  • Posted by Larry on May 2, 2006 at 4:35am EDT
  • BJ, As pointed out here many times, being “under investigation” is not the same as having “done it.” However, I don’t think that your are correctly actually depicting the state of the proceedings with Mr. Churchill. But, whatever the case, if someone disagrees with me politically, I too, will saying that an indictment is the same as a conviction, or an the presence of an “investigation” is determinative of guilt. The difference between me and you is I tell people that that my rhetoric is political.

    Oh, the proceedings at CU have nothing to do with Mr. Churchill’s politics or even his status as a veteran. (I am confused as to what you have against Vietnam Vets as role models, and why “role-model” status even matters, but this is for another day.) But this doesn’t matter! If you disagree with his politics (as you do) you can use whatever you want to condemn him.

    I never liked these “athletes” to begin with, and so I tell everyone that I meet that they wouldn’t have been indicted if they weren’t guilty, and there is no reason to have a trial, since they are “clearly” guilty. I also inform people that I think that men should not play Lacrosse. You do the same with Mr. Churchill

  • Duke is not the prosecutor
  • Posted by reader on May 3, 2006 at 10:15am EDT
  • The article's conflation of a private university with a government prosecutor still hasn't been addressed despite Peter Plagens' comment. The author writes that "Due process exists because the Anglo-Saxon legal tradition has determined it elemental to achieving the truth," but that process is owed to the accused by the government -- not the university per se.

    Therefore, writing that "the Duke faculty might have forcefully advocated respecting the due process rights of all concerned" is nonsensical -- the Duke faculty and administration have no say or effect on the suspects' due process rights, unless they are moonlighting as court personnel. They can say whatever they want; they can declare the suspects guilty without a trial precisely because they are not trying them, the legal system is.

  • response to reader
  • Posted by Kevin , Undergraduate on May 3, 2006 at 10:30am EDT
  • Reader, the "due process" we are refering to the university not following is the one regarding their practices towards the lacross team - cancelling practices, cancelling the season, allowing hate-filled insult sessions, encouraging attacks on their reputations etc. in the light of no conviction and no serious evidence and no thourough proceedings on anyone's part.

  • contracts and the constitution
  • Posted by Larry on May 3, 2006 at 2:20pm EDT
  • Kevin, Even at private universities, the terms of a student’s contract with the school give rise to some rights to degree of “process.” This is not strictly “due process” within the meaning of the 5th and 14th amendments, but rather arises from a contractual theory. Therefore, student of a private school that alleges that he has not received the right kind of “process” sues under a contractual theory, rather than 42 U.S.C. Sec. 1983.

    Cancelling the entire season doesn’t deprive individual players of “due process” since schools are entitled to pretty much do whatever they want with athletic programs as a whole. (And “substantive due process” has never been recognized as a contractual right.) While I think it is amusing (and I mean REALLY amusing) that athletes are calling themselves victims, insulting someone generally does not create a breach of contract. Whether or not there is “serious” evidence is in the eye of the beholder (or “trier of fact” as we lawyers like to say). People have been tried, convicted, sentenced to death, and executed on eye-witness testimony or the statements of victims.

    The author says that “Due process exists because the Anglo-Saxon legal tradition has determined it elemental to achieving the truth.” While I generally don’t like to discuss legal issues with non-lawyers, it is worth nothing that even in a proceeding governed by “due process” there are many other things valued more than a search for the “truth” (whatever that means.) For example, testimony of a witness may be struck (or not allowed) if it is not subject to cross examination (as that would be “unfair”) and illegally-obtained (but “true”) testimony might not be admissible.

    Finally, it is worth nothing that in every jurisdiction to address the issue, a school need not provide a trial-type hearing where there are no issues of fact at stake. If a student is convicted of a crime in a “real” court, and he doesn’t dispute the fact of his conviction, there is no need for an actual trial, since there already was one.

  • Real Profs are too busy to politic
  • Posted by David Skurnick on May 3, 2006 at 2:40pm EDT
  • My wife is a tenured faculty member at a medical school. I cannot imagine her getting involved in an issue like this. She's simply too busy doing medical research and teaching future doctors.

    The profs who ran that disgusting advertisment pre-judging the case have too much time on their hands.

  • Posted by melk on May 3, 2006 at 4:20pm EDT
  • The rush to judgement on the Duke campus is particularly hypocritical given that campus sexual assaults do not always,or even often, fall within the convenient racial paradigm of this particular case. Given the frequency of sexual assaults committed by student athletes, it is hard not to feel irritated that this particular incident has merited such overwhelming attention.

  • prejudice
  • Posted by Clayton E. Cramer on May 3, 2006 at 4:20pm EDT
  • Ralph Luker writes:

    "The statement of the 88 faculty members is prompted by the lacrosse-playing students’ behavior, but it speaks to a history of their misconduct that had been tolerated in prior administrations."

    It sounds like the problem isn't just the actions of the current lacrosse team. Aside from the still questionable matter of rape, the actions of some members are repulsive--the results of the liberal culture that tells young men that women exist only as sexual gratification tools.

    This concern about actions taken by lacrosse players under "previous administrations" leaves me quite confused. Unless there have been a lot of administrations at Duke in the last four years--or there are a number of current lacrosse team members who have been attending Duke for more than four years--Luker is saying that the current team members are being punished for actions taken by lacrosse team members from some years back.

    Replace "black" with "lacrosse team member" and you will see how absurd Luker's argument is.

  • Churchill "found innocent"......
  • Posted by schoolofhardknocks on May 3, 2006 at 4:25pm EDT
  • I think not.

    Churchill's review isn't completed to date. Aside from the odiousness of his comments, the academic uselessness of his class content, there are some very plausible plagiarism charges he may not walk away from. Bloggers did the public, the school and students a favor in outing that fool. There sure wasn't any accountabiltiy on the part of the university.

  • Posted by Letalis on May 3, 2006 at 4:45pm EDT
  • What a bunch of crap. This is why, having graduated from three institutes of higher learning, I hang up when they call asking for more money. An undergraduate education has turned into something the strong-willed and independent minded among us simply have to endure. Once we graduate, we do not go back to visit, and we do not give any more money. To hell with all of you tenured fatcats with your feet up on your cozy desks and your class-rooms full of undergraduate students who toil at your mercy.

  • An Infantile Disorder
  • Posted by Kevin Fleming on May 3, 2006 at 7:35pm EDT
  • The 88 faculty signers have demonstrated their inability to behave as rational adults, and permit the law to take its course. While the seriousness of the claqim merits close attention, and it would be difficult for a school to permit the team to complete its seasonas if nothing had happened, the faculty has no business advising and admonishing here.

    They display a juvenile or even infantile thinking disorder, a retreat to primitive schoolyard behaviors. Such mobbing is often couchede in seemingly learned and complex statements, but on closer inspection they reveal the same tired, dogmatic, semi-Marxist ideology that infects academia all across the US.

    The 88 are saying: We think they're guilty, and we don't care if they're not. Even if it's fake, it has "truthiness".
    As such, they are automatons, reacting and speaking in a cultish jargon with words that border on self-parody. When this is shown to be Tawana Brawley all over again, what will the 88 say? "We were right anyway," is my bet.

  • Discussion (20 points)
  • Posted by Tom on May 3, 2006 at 7:35pm EDT
  • Which of these groups are more close-minded: rednecks, hicks, and hillbillies OR professors in the humanities and social sciences? For extra credit, identify the exceptions.

  • Respect for women
  • Posted by M. Simon , Design Head at Space-Time Productions on May 3, 2006 at 7:35pm EDT
  • Women on campus would get more respect if the number of men and women on campus were roughly equal.

    When women predominate it is girls gone wild.

    Clayton Cramer knows this as I have pointed it out to him many times. Yet he continues to act as if demographics has nothing to do with the problem.

    http://www.issues.org/13.2/courtw.htm

    Well I can understand that. It does not accord with what he believes. The amount of rationality in humans is way over rated.

  • university culture
  • Posted by Michael Kennedy on May 4, 2006 at 5:20am EDT
  • I am appalled at the comments more than the original article. The Duke players have been convicted in the media as a district attorney felt the need to play the race card to get elected. It worked !

    I have a high school daughter and there is no way in hell I would send her to Duke. In fact, I am concerned about where I can send her where she will get an education instead of an indoctrination. I certainly would not pay the tuition at these institutions for anything but a science major. Humanities, my major long ago, is dead. I wonder if it will ever rise again.

    I have other, older children who finished college and two who finished law school but that seems to have been a more benign era. What a disaster universities have become! I cannot see this continuing without a parents' revolt. Even East Germany finally rebelled.

  • Crayton Clamor
  • Posted by Ralph E. Luker on May 4, 2006 at 5:20am EDT
  • Having one's comment called "absurd" by Clayton Cramer is like being called a "demogogue" by David Horowitz. A clear-headed reader of my comment would understand that there's a history of boorish student behavior under the influence of alcohol at Duke that extends back into prior administrations. Intolerably boorish behavior by members of the lacrosse team under the influence of alcohol had become characteristic of it. Hiring strippers for another drinking party and threatening to kill and skin a stripper are examples of the lengths to which such behavior had reached. I assume that even Professor Clamor has no argument to make on behalf of it. Forget about inserting "black" in place of "the lacrosse team." Case closed.

  • Posted by KC Johnson , Professor at Brooklyn College on May 4, 2006 at 5:25am EDT
  • "Reader" points out that "the Duke faculty and administration have no say or effect on the suspects’ due process rights, unless they are moonlighting as court personnel. They can say whatever they want; they can declare the suspects guilty without a trial precisely because they are not trying them, the legal system is."

    I never claimed that the Duke faculty don't have the right to say whatever they want. If the Group of 88 wants to sign a statement thanking protesters who proclaimed the players "rapists," the group is free to do so.

    But it seems to me perfectly legitimate to ask why so few Duke professors were publicly urging the local authorities to respect the due process rights of their own institution's students. To assert that "the Duke faculty and administration have no say or effect on the suspects’ due process rights" strikes me as difficult to sustain: Duke is a major player--economically, culturally, and ideologically--in Durham. A public statement by 88 Duke faculty highlighting the procedural irregularities that had characterrized the investigation could have had a considerable effect on public opinion--at a time when the DA was facing a closely contested primary.

    That Duke professors chose not to issue such a statement but instead released the statement of the "Group of 88" speaks volumes as to the faculty's values.

  • Posted by Yevgeny Vilensky , Due Process @ Duke at Ph.D student in Mathematics, New York University on May 4, 2006 at 6:10am EDT
  • I want to tackle the due process issue for a bit. Certainly, the university has a right to do whatever it wants (provided it meets its contractual agreements with the students) and so, probably can expel the students without "due process" afforded by 5th and 14th Amendments (provided said expulsion is not in violation of its contract with the students). But, we should be worried when a cabal of faculty demand that the university make the waiver of Constitutional rights in legal proceedings a condition of enrollment at the University. Remember, the protestors (egged on by some faculty) demanded that Duke tell the students "testify or be expelled."

    Sure, Duke has a metaphysical right to do this (again, provided it didn't waive said rights in its contract with the students), but we ought be troubled by it. Imagine if the professors demanded that the students "confess" or be expelled. Sure, Duke would have a right to demand this, but we would all be naturally horrified by such a demand. The lacrosse players are Americans first, and Duke students, only second.

  • I Hope You're All Embarrassed...But I Doubt It
  • Posted by Unapologetically Tenured on May 4, 2006 at 10:10am EDT
  • "Josef Stalin"

    "Infantile Thinking Disorder"

    "[R]ednecks, hicks, and hillbillies OR professors in the humanities and social sciences?"

    "East Germany"

    "[T]enured fatcats with your feet up on your cozy desks..."

    Isn't anyone even a little embarrassed by the level of discussion generated by Professor Johnson's article? It would appear that Duke's is not the only poisoned culture on display. The level of ignorance and vitriol expressed in this comment thread is stunning.

    The truly poisoned culture is the one in which a single alleged rape (one of thousands that take place in America on a daily basis) is transformed into a political football by people for whom every human tragedy represents an opportunity to score points in some trumped-up culture war.

  • Cuture Kerfuffle
  • Posted by kevin Fleming on May 4, 2006 at 11:30am EDT
  • "Unapologetically Tenured" suggests that those seeing evidence of leftist bias on campus in the official Duke administrative reactions are merely "culture-warriors" who should " just go away, retreat to your blogs, and leave the rest of us to do the real work—the important work—of academia".
    Unapol. Tenured finds it "stunning" that people outside of the Duke nomenklatura should express an interest in "a single alleged rape". Apparently, since it's "just one of thousands" every day, who cares? What's al the fuss? Just go away and stop dropping vitriol all over our carpet!

    "Unapologetically Tenured" suggests that those seeing evidence of leftist bias on campus in the official Duke administrative reactions are merely "culture-warriors" who should "just go away, retreat to your blogs, and leave the rest of us to do the real work—the important work—of academia".
    Unapol. Tenured finds it "stunning" that people outside of the Duke nomenklatura should express an interest in "a single alleged rape". Apparently, since it's "just one of thousands" every day, who cares? What's al the fuss? Just go away and stop dropping vitriol all over our carpet!
    When 88 of Duke's finest and the highest Duke officials declare this "single rape" a major event, well, it becomes a major event. If enough of Duke's learned staff and administration had instead reacted cautiously, and let the law run its course, none of us unwashed bloggers would have cared a whit. When you fire a volley in the culture war, you can't expect the other side to unilaterally disarm. Yes, minor things can become major things. This may seem unwarranted or excessive, but such events merely serve as a flashpoint exosing a larger cultural divide. Unapol. Tenured knows this, to be sure, but prefers to pretend to be unflappable, and uninterested in the kerfuffle, above it all and peering down, but still playing the game all the while.

  • Clarification
  • Posted by Unapologetically Tenured on May 4, 2006 at 12:50pm EDT
  • I really have nothing to say in response to Mr. Fleming, since he bascially makes my point better than I could.

    However, I do object strongly to his (disingenuous?) characterization of my remarks. He says the following:

    "Unapol. Tenured finds it “stunning” that people outside of the Duke nomenklatura should express an interest in “a single alleged rape". Apparently, since it’s “just one of thousands” every day, who cares? What’s al [sic] the fuss?"

    My point, which I suspect was clear to any unbiased reader, was NOT that the alleged Duke rape case is unimportant because it is "just one of thousands". Every rape is a serious crime and a horrible tragedy, made not one bit less so by the fact that so many occur. In that respect, of course we should and do care about what happened in Durham. (Note here that I am not prejudging guilt or innocence; I am simply responding to Mr. Fleming's mischaracterization of my views.)

    Rather, I was suggesting that the reason that this particular case is receiving so much attention has nothing to do with concern for the accuser or even the accused. Instead, it's just another case of culture warriors searching the news for the latest political football to toss around. As I said before, this act has gotten very, very stale.

  • To clarify about the comments in the ad
  • Posted by Mark Anthony Neal on May 4, 2006 at 1:15pm EDT
  • The comments in The Chronicle ad were drawn from a public discussion held on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 in the John Hope Franklin Center. We did not include the names of the students who voiced to comments out of concern that their anonymity be maintained.

    The intent of the ad was simply to let the campus community know that we take seriously the concerns that students voiced about their safety and marginalization before and after the alleged attacks. I don't see anything "disgusting" about that.

    MAN

  • Posted by Kevin Fleming on May 4, 2006 at 2:55pm EDT
  • U. Tenured's point seems reasonable, at first blush, for the case itself seems not dissimilar to claims of sexual assault across the US, and thus it becomes "news" only because of political football.

    However, the cast of characters involved makes this situation far from average. The potent mix of race, money, class, power, privilege, sports, and academics make this case unusual, if not unique. Most especially, once the Duke administration and then the Duke 88 weighed in and chose sides, controversy was invited, if not demanded.

    I am further puzzled why U. Tenured feels his/her views were "mischaracterized" when I simply cut and placed what he/she wrote. You think that culture apparatchiks are just trolling for a fight. I disagree. This case was parochial until Duke professors and administrators decided to slay the usual PC dragons, only to find they were, once again, tilting at windmills.

    Sancho Panza understood this defect back in 1602.

  • Posted by sasserbic on May 5, 2006 at 11:45am EDT
  • UT is taking umbrage at your mis-characterization, kevin fleming, because you have not quoted him/her, but misquoted him/her. there is a world of difference between

    "Unapol. Tenured finds it “stunning” that people outside of the Duke nomenklatura should express an interest in “a single alleged rape". Apparently, since it’s “just one of thousands” every day, who cares? What’s al the fuss? Just go away and stop dropping vitriol all over our carpet"

    and

    "The truly poisoned culture is the one in which a single alleged rape (one of thousands that take place in America on a daily basis) is transformed into a political football by people for whom every human tragedy represents an opportunity to score points in some trumped-up culture war."

    seems obvious to me, but perhaps not to you, that the tenor of the former, with your quotational edits, is drastically different than the latter.

  • Rape: It Only Happens to Nice Girls When the Public Says So
  • Posted by Zuska on May 5, 2006 at 8:35pm EDT
  • Having read all the way through this trail of slime, I wish to say thanks to Unapologetically Tenured for his/her ability to maintain a reasonable tone and a reasoned argument.

    What makes this alleged rape different from the thousands that occur daily? Yes, it is the cast of characters - it's the fact that a black woman in a southern town who alleges rape by white men has actually been taken seriously enough for the alleged crime to be investigated, even though the accused white men are part of a privileged university that dominates the town. The amount and level of vitriolic commentary I have read about this woman since her accusation became public is downright chilling.

    The sanctimonious hand-wringing of everyone who is so worried that the white boys won't get a fair trial is just laughable.

    If I were a black woman in this country I would be be scared to death by what I hear white men saying about this woman, and what that would imply for my possible rights should I ever be raped by a white man. Not to mention that so many white men seem to think that a certain class of black women can't really be raped anyway - she was a stripper, she was drunk, who can believe anything someone like her has to say? or so goes the slander campaign.

    As it is, as a white woman, I am sickened and appalled and I just hope, should I ever have the misfortune to be raped, that it will be under circumstances that the court of public opinion considers legitimate and engendering of sympathy.

    Y'all make me wanna barf.

  • Before you "barf"
  • Posted by JBM on May 6, 2006 at 9:05am EDT
  • I understand that you are ill, but one small request before you go back to "barfing." Please explain how, if her accusations were accurate, one of the people she accused of raping her could possibly have had a fully corroborated alibi, complete with six different proofs from different independent sources (including time-stamped electronic and photographic proofs) that establish that he could not have possibly been there when she said he was raping her.

    You can go back to "barfing" now while the rest of us deal with the facts and legal concerns essential to justice.

  • Response
  • Posted by Kevin , Undergraduate on May 9, 2006 at 3:05pm EDT
  • Zuska, you seem to make the same mistake we have seen again and again - just because the "victim" is percieved as disadvantaged, she must be telling the truth. There is no reason to give her some greater degree of latitude because of her race or economic status.

    When a person is raped, evidence is generally present. Her time line is inconsistant, the other stripper doesn't back any of her time lines, photos don't support it, she has no DNA from sperm or skin, no latex found, and no collaborating witnesses. In addition, she has a history of unreliable police reports and stands to gain millions if she can sue sucessfully in civil court. All of this adds up to a very low credibility indeed.

  • Group of 88
  • Posted by KC Johnson , Professor of History at Brooklyn College on May 10, 2006 at 2:30pm EDT
  • Prof. Neal states above, "The intent of the ad was simply to let the campus community know that we take seriously the concerns that students voiced about their safety and marginalization before and after the alleged attacks. I don’t see anything 'disgusting' about that."

    My article never characterized the statement as "disgusting." It said, "That 88 faculty members — much less entire departments — would have signed on to such a document suggests that whatever plagues Duke’s campus culture goes beyond the lacrosse team’s conduct and the administration’s insufficient oversight of its athletic department."

    Moreover, as I noted in the article, the ad went well beyond stating that the 88 faculty were "listening" to selected anonymous student voices. The signatoriees thanked protesters who had publicly branded the lacrosse players "rapists" and had pasted "wanted" posters around campus, and the faculty also asserted as fact that "something happened" to the accuser--a claim that the players have vigorously denied.

  • Stop the rhetoric, these boys are innocent!
  • Posted by Ryan , MD on May 12, 2006 at 8:50am EDT
  • ‘Duke’s Poisoned Campus Culture’, sounds like feminist hetoric.

    ALl these boys did was higher a couple of strippers who ripped them off, lied about racial slurred (She wasn't just driving by, she started the argument with the boys), and lied about a rape occurring.

    The stripper has serious character flaws judging by her criminal pass:

    • Stripper made a false claim of rape by three boys in 1996.
    • Stripper made a false claim of kidnapping in 1998
    • Stripper charged with larceny, auto theft, and trying to kill a police officer in 2002

    The stripper’s account of the night has serious integrity issues:
    • First she claimed 20 boys raped her, then she narrowed it down to 3 in a bathroom
    o The bathroom is absolutely and completely devoid of any evidence of a rape. Where is her DNA? Urine, blood, vaginal fluid, saliva, or tears?
    o Many people’s DNA were found under her nails but none from the innocent lacrosse boys.
    o She lied about losing her fake finger nails in a desperate struggle in the small enclosed bathroom, but pictures show that she removed her nails before inadequately performing her routine. No scratches were found on any of the innocent lacrosse boys’ bodies.
    o The 2 innocent boys she “eeny meeny miney moed” to be her rapists weren’t even at the party the time she claimed the rape occurred. She claims that she’s 100% sure, but she told her father that she’s not sure.
    o She took drugs before coming to the house, something illegal.
    • The 2nd stripper stated that she doubted that a rape occurred, but changed her story after given a deal by DA Nifong, then contact a PR firm to “spin this scandal to her advantage.”

    The stripper obviously lied, and she’s putting these innocent boys and families through hell. She deserves to be in prison for the rest of her pathetic life.

    The unscrupulous DA Mike Nifong refused to see evidence that proves the boys innocent

    District Attorney revokes all deferred plea deals with lacrosse players because they won’t jump on his band wagon that a rape occurred.

    District Attorney doesn’t revoke probation of the second stripper after she changes her story from no rape occurred to a rape occurred.

    District Attorney tries to intimidate the cab driver who drove the boys during the time the stripper claims a rape occurred.

    Are the actions of the DA’s office more “abuse of power” or “corruption”?

  • Much Ado About...Very Little
  • Posted by Unapologetically Tenured on May 12, 2006 at 9:35am EDT
  • Prof. Neal can speak for himself, of course, but I think his reference to the word "disgusting" is in response to one of the earlier comments on this thread.

    I have to say, I did (finally) read the ad written by the "Group of 88" and, frankly, I just don't see what all the fuss is about. It's certainly a stretch to suggest that the ad prejudges the criminal case against the lacrosse players. Indeed, one of the quotes included in the ad says, "IF these students are guilty, I want them expelled" (emphasis mine).

    While it's true that the ad "thanks the students speaking individually and...the protesters making collective noise", that doesn't mean that the "Group of 88" is necessarily associating themselves with everything said by every student and/or every protester. As I understand it, a lot of the discussion during the protests involved questions about the campus climate at Duke, rather than the specific allegations made against the lacrosse players.

    To put it another way, in 1999, if I had said something like, "Thank you to the protesters in Seattle for opposing the WTO", that doesn't automatically make me guilty of supporting the kids who smashed the windows at Starbucks, does it?

    The fact is, there's a lot more evidence of people prejudging the Duke rape case in this comment thread than there is in the ad produced by the "Group of 88".

  • Posted by KC Johnson , Professor at Brooklyn College on May 15, 2006 at 4:30am EDT
  • In response to "Unapologetically Tenured," above:

    The statement that U.T. quoted ("If these students are guilty, I want them expelled") came from a student, not a faculty signatory; my article referred to the portions of the advertisement in which the faculty members spoke in their own voice. On this specific point, if they are convicted, the players would face 12-15 years in prison; getting expelled from Duke would be the least of their concerns.

    On the issue of prejudging, the faculty, in their own voice, speak of "what happened to this young woman." Of course, the players have contended that nothing "happened to this young woman"; stating that something "happened to this young woman" suggests to me at least a bit of prejudging. Based on the DNA evidence just released, the only thing we know that definitely "happened to this young woman" on the night in question was that she had intercourse with her boyfriend--but I rather doubt this is what the Group of 88 was referencing.

    On the issue of the protests, the media reports that I read, from both the Duke newspaper and the local press suggested that the protests were focused on the lacrosse case. It seems as if U.T.'s understanding of the protesters' focus differs from media portrayals, but perhaps he/she has contacts at Duke.

    Finally, in his/her first anonymous posting, U.T. proclaimed that people should cease paying attention to this issue, indeed should cease speaking at all, "and leave the rest of us to do the real work—the important work—of academia." Although I disagree with his/her position on the Duke question, I'm glad to see, given that U.T. has now made four posts, that he/she has apparently recognized the significance of this matter.

  • Conscientious Objector in the Culture Wars
  • Posted by Unapologetically Tenured on May 16, 2006 at 8:55am EDT
  • Two comments before I take my own advice and "go away".

    1. I have no "position on the Duke question". The resolution of the rape case is in the hands of the North Carolina judicial system. The healing of divisions at Duke University is in the hands of the administrators, students, and faculty of that fine institution (including, by the way, the "Group of 88" who, unlike Professor Johnson, have a direct, personal stake in the campus climate at Duke). It is a shame that the sleazy demands of the 24-hour hour cable news industry have turned this case into a national story in which both the innocent and guilty, whoever they are, will be forever tarred.

    2. I have always "recognized the significance of this matter". Every accusation of rape is serious, and every instance of rape is both a horrible crime and a terrible tragedy. And that's what matters. Not the political points we can score. Not the chance to choose up sides based on race, class, ideology, or anything else. Not the opportunity to parse the language in some one-off local newspaper ad to show that those rascally campus radicals are at it again.

    Let's please review the facts. I don't know what happened at Duke. Neither do you. Neither does KC Johnson, nor the "Group of 88", nor Nancy Grace, nor anyone else who was not on the scene that night. If someone is guilty of rape, that person should spend many years in prison. If someone has made a false accusation, that person should be punished. And that's the whole story. All of it. The rest is just the self-serving bleating of culture warriors who miss no opportunity to refract any news story through their hyper-ideological lenses.

  • Posted by KC Johnson , Professor at Brooklyn College on May 16, 2006 at 6:35pm EDT
  • Not to reiterate what I had said in previous posts, but I'd ask "Unapologetically Tenured" to re-read my article: I don't claim to know whether or not a rape occurred, nor does the article even attempt to discuss this matter or the more abstract question of the seriousness of rape. The piece, as I believe the title makes clear, is about the reaction of the Duke faculty to the allegations against the lacrosse team, and the "campus culture" that this case has revealed.

    Regarding the campus climate at Duke, which I agree with "U.T." is a "fine institution," I regret the very narrow view of the academy that he/she offers in the above post. I have a bias on this score: during my tenure battle at Brooklyn, a letter signed by 24 leading national scholars questioning Brooklyn's "campus climate" was critical to bringing attention to the procedural improprieties in the case.

    There are times when outsiders can bring a fresh perspective to events. That not even one Duke professor, to my knowledge, has publicly questioned the treatment the school's own students have received as a result of what National Journal's Stuart Taylor has termed "gross prosecutorial misconduct" suggests to me a need for outside scrutiny.

  • Thank you college
  • Posted by Sharkalot Bitingsworth on October 31, 2006 at 1:26pm EST
  • Having graduated recently from a small north eastern liberal arts institution, I have experience first hand the great tradition that has strengthened in these types of academic institutions, and how this practice of freely expressed ideology is a self destructive tendency.

    Though speaking out against adversity appears to be a noble course of action, it is NOT action. A group that feels itself marginalized does neither itself nor others any good by fighting against those who they, sometimes haphazardly, deem thier oppressors.

    You show me a black person oppressed, stuck in the ghettos working at mcdonalds and slanging crack rock, I will show you a chinese family drycleaning and delivering general tso's chicken 12 hours a day.
    You show me a girl getting raped in an alley or grabbed on at a party, I'll show you a drunk guy getting flanked by fat nasty girls or making out on the dance floor at the bar.
    You show me a gay who gets ridiculed and cant get married, I'll show you a person that is made fun of for liking peanut butter on a hamburger, and can't get that at a fast food restaurant.
    Everyone has it hard. Shut up.
    The difference here is that, The duke 88 are condemning 3 innocent people to a life of rotting away in a prison; making an example of people because of a lifestyle of which they do not approve. SOunds like stereotyping to me.
    The worst part is that it's people in thier school. No support or sense of loyalty whatsoever. Shame on you. Shame on you all.

    Speaking against something is viewed as a way to spread some kind of good word. But unless either you are Jesus or God or Buddha or Allah or h\Hermes ( i dont want to forget anyone for fear of inciting a riot/criticism of my lack of religious knowledge) you are just another idiot that can't understand the good.

    Pure evil does not exist. The closest thing to evil is still viewed in the mind of he or she that commits said evil act as good. Noone is going around doing bad things and saying "oh im so happy to be doing evil" unless they are insane. Whether the person is insane or doing things they think to be good that we deem evil, its our fault, and speaking against others becomes speaking against ourselves, as we are all part of the same world.
    Speaking against things just makes you look angry. Go ahead and speak out against a beehive, or speak out against the person that is beating you up. See exactly what gets accomplished.

    Now action on the other hand, makes you look really angry when you are acting AGAINST something.
    But acting for something, setting an example, and believing that you are doing the right thing based all available results is commendable.
    You might not get the press coverage and the head up your own rear haughtiness that college professors thrive on, but you will be doing the right thing.
    Please excuse my complicated delivery of this message. My arguement is somewhat mishmosed, having to go through the filter of thousands of hours of college professor. And I only feel strongly about this because the gays at my school protested monthly, reassuring the general student population and anyone that might have been visiting that day that they would "NO LONGER TOLERATE INTOLERANCE."

    in conclusion:

    1. Saying something is an admission that your idea is not strong enough to support itself, and hence you and it need support
    2. the only thing you can do is figure out the right way to be, and set an example (be the nice guy)
    3. any action or words directed against somethign else is self defeating, and the cause of all problems in the world

    4. I am aware that #3 pretty much cancels out this whole rant.

  • Avoidance!
  • Posted by You're Busted! on December 24, 2006 at 6:05am EST
  • UT, and the other apologists here, are only making their case far worse than helping it. UT in particular is only revealing how close to coming apart he/she really is. The radical lefties that run academia simply can't stand it that they are under the microscope. It's the heght of hypocrisy for a group of people that make their entire living looking for fault and demanding transparency out of others now cringes that their own ideas are under scrutiny. Instead of competing in the marketplace of ideas they further their own image of out of touch elitists with comments like "go away".

    Sir, or Madam, if you can form a real argument on the facts you would not need such trite dismissals. Get used to it-the academic freedom movement has gained so much steam because it is an idea whose time has come.

    Back to Durham...this case is extremely relevant because it reveals the pure hypocrisy, racism, gender hatred, and fascism inherent in today's academia. The Gang of 88 rushed to judgement, and are now embarrased. They condemned these white men simply because they wanted to. Evidence, due process, logic and common sense are only pesky things that get in the way and are to be avoided. And don't bring them up or you will be chided by an angry "Unapolegetically tenured" prof falling apart at the seams.

    You lost on the facts. Further denying it only makes you look bad, no matter how much you hate it or arrogant you become. Deal with it.

  • Still unapologetic? Bloggers 1, Reporters 0
  • Posted by GaryB , Prof on May 17, 2007 at 8:05pm EDT
  • Unapologetically Tenured: Still unapologetic?

    When innocent people were being railroaded some took notice and applied unrelenting pressure to stop the injustice. Sometimes, as we can see, this pressure has to come from outside. Witness the continuing whitewash of the chief of police, city manager, Duke group of 88 and Duke Admin.

    That's not being a culture warrior, that's being a citizen.

  • Posted by David Copeland on June 18, 2007 at 10:00pm EDT
  • "He who fights monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster", was Friedrich Nietzsche's way of saying that people tend to become what they hate. No doubt the Group of 88 started out by hating racist and sexist bigots. It is unfortunate that their advocacy of humanitarianism reaches all groups except that of white males, thereby becoming the monster that they hate.