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The Most Innovative College in America?

October 9, 2006

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It’s that time again -- the fall season marks the ramp-up for the college admissions game. Across the country, eager high school seniors and their parents are rushing to newsstands and bookstores to buy college guides.  

But wait ... this year there is another contender in the marketplace for information about what’s happening in American colleges and universities, the Commission on the Future of Higher Education's just-released report, "A Test of Leadership: Charting the Future of U.S. Higher Education." The commission’s members included past and present college presidents, corporate executives, and representatives of various higher education associations. The report from the commission, the first federal panel on quality and related higher education issues in more than two decades, is based on a yearlong study of American higher education.

Drafts of the commission report had been circulating all summer. Based on the charter from Education Secretary Margaret Spellings to “be bold” in offering recommendations for the future of American higher education, we should assume that any college or university cited in the commission report is a noteworthy place – among the best postsecondary institutions in the country.

So do you know which U.S. college or university was cited for “innovation in curriculum development and program delivery” in the commission’s report?  The winner is Neumont University, in Salt Lake City. The final version of the Spellings commission report, released September 19,  states that “Salt Lake City-based Neumont University is educating the most sought-after software developers in the world” (p. 25).

Neumont University? Educating the “most sought-after software developers in the world?” Paraphrasing Humphrey Bogart in the movie "Casablanca," of all the technical and engineering colleges across America, how did they pick this one?

Like other folks parsing the drafts of the Spellings commission report this summer, I was surprised by the reference to Neumont. Perhaps like you, dear reader and esteemed colleague, I had never heard of Neumont. Of course, there is nothing inherently wrong with the fact that Neumont is little known. For example, my son is a graduate of one of the highly ranked small liberal arts colleges in the East, but many of my non-academic friends and acquaintances Los Angeles where I live have never heard of his alma mater, Hamilton College.

Still, as one of the few colleges or universities cited by name in the Spellings commission report and the only single college to get a box highlighting its academic program, Neumont must be doing something very important, yes?  Maybe Neumont is a small place like Deep Springs College, a decidedly different two-year college in the California desert that some academic insiders consider the most selective and unique college in the country.

Eager for more information about what the Spellings commission had deemed to be one of the most innovative and impressive academic programs in American colleges and universities, I went to the Web.  From the Neumont Web page I learned that “Neumont is an award winning university dedicated to educating the most sought-after software developers in the world.”  (Hmm, that endorsement repeats, verbatim,  the text in the commission report.) Affirming the IT focus of the university’s program, Neumont’s home page proudly posts some impressive technology industry logos and endorsements:

  • An MSNBC logo citing an August 30 2006 news report indicating that Neumont was “the most talked about school in America.”
  • An InformationWeek logo stating that Neumont is “creating the Next-Gen IT workforce.”
  • A Forbes magazine logo, accompanied by text stating that Neumont is “clearly several rungs above."

Additionally, the Neumont home page recently added the logo of the U.S. Department of Education, with a hot link to a university press release proclaiming that the  “Commission on Higher Education appointed by U.S. Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings recognized the University [Neumont] as one charting the future of U.S. Higher Education.”

All good stuff, to be sure, particularly if you are a prospective student interested in an IT degree. But as I wandered the Neumont web page, some things seemed curious, even odd. The Neumont web site reports that the university is actually the “Salt Lake City campus of the 102 year old Morrison University” and “offers Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and Master of Business Administration degrees.” For-profit Neumont University is accredited by the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools. Interestingly, the ACICS home page prominently lists the names of institutions that have lost their accreditation, a decidedly different model than the six regional associations that accredit most of the nation’s traditional, nonprofit public and private colleges and universities.

Digging Deeper

Intrigued by these somewhat unusual organizational and accrediting arrangements, I sought still more information about Neumont. Turning to the traditional college guides: Peterson's reports that Neumont enrolls 140 undergraduates (93 percent men), has a 5:1 student faculty ratio (impressive!), charges $15,000 for tuition, and admits 83 percent of its undergraduate applicants. (Okay, you don’t have to be highly selective like Princeton or Williams, cited as the best in the country by the recent U.S. News and World Report rankings, to be effective or innovative.) Concurrently, Peterson's reports that Morrison University, the parent institution in Reno, enrolls 110 undergraduates. (Interesting, the spin-off is larger than the “home” campus.)  

A second college guide, The Princeton Review, offers somewhat conflicting information: according to The Princeton Review, Neumont enrolls 260 students, has an 8:1 student /faculty ratio, charges $21,000 for tuition; 75 percent of Neumont students receive need-based financial aid.

Now I was more than curious: indeed, I was somewhat befuddled by the Spelling’s commission’s ringing endorsement for a small private, for-profit institution that seemed to be a satellite campus of another for-profit college. (Nothing wrong with the for-profits; this just seemed to be an unusual set of organizational arrangements.)

Seeking still more information, I went to the U.S. Department of Education’s Integrated Postsecondary Data System.

From the IPEDS database I learned that the official academic year 2005 enrollment at both Neumont and Morrison is smaller than the numbers reported by Peterson’s and The Princeton Review. According to IPEDS, Neumont enrolled 67 full-time-equivalent undergraduate students in 2005, while undergraduate enrollment at Morrison totaled 106.33 full-time-equivalent students.  

Second, I learned from the IPEDS that Morrison University awarded a total of just 19 degrees in academic 2004: eight associate degrees, five bachelor’s degrees, and six master’s degrees.  Three of the degrees were associate degrees in computer science,; the balance - 16 - were in business/management. Although Neumont provided enrollment data to IPEDS, it did not report any degree data in A/Y 2004.

Now I was thoroughly confused. So I called Neumont for additional – and hopefully clarifying -  information.  In pleasant phone conversations with two Neumont officials in the days following the release of the Spellings commission report,  I learned a lot about the institution. For example, while the Web site says that Neumont is affiliated with Morrison University, Neumont’s president, Graham Doxley, also a founder of the university, reports that Neumont Holdings purchased private, for-profit Morrison University a few years ago as a way to launch Neumont University. As education is a “regulated industry,” said Mr. Doxley in a phone conversation, the university’s founders felt it would be easier to acquire an existing institution rather than start  from scratch. (The Neumont Web site has yet to catch up with the organizational arrangements.) 

The July 24, 2006 Forbes article cited on Neumont’s Web page is more revealing about Neumont’s history and financing. According to Forbes, Doxley and two friends who became his business partners were looking for “early stage tech investments.” As one of the three founders complained “about the difficulty of finding and training new [IT] grads, they came up with the idea of running an engineering school geared to the needs of industry… meet[ing] with prospective employers, students, and teachers to gauge demand and refine their idea.”  The Forbes article reports that the three Neumont founders “knew they were on the right track … when John Swainson, then IBM’s head of software development and now chief executive of CA, Inc [formerly Computer Associates], stopped them in midpitch and said that they had underestimated the need and he’d help in any way he could.” 

Doxley says the university now enrolls some 300 students. And the members of Neumont’s first graduating class – 27 students – received their degrees last spring.  The Neumont Web site reveals that an IBM executive vice president, Nicholas Donofrio, a member of the Spellings commission who praised Neumont’s work during at least one of the panel’s meetings, was a featured speaker at the commencement ceremony in May. The press release for the commencement also notes that “IBM is looking to Neumont to provide highly-skilled Web developers and sofrware engineers.”

The Back Story

So how is it that very new, very small for-profit Neumont University (university?), with only 27 graduates,  was one of the very few postsecondary institutions in America deemed worthy of specific citation by the Spellings commission for doing interesting or innovative work?

Neumont was not even the only “innovative” engineering program brought before the Spellings panel. Richard Miller, founding president of Boston’s acclaimed and innovative Olin College of Engineering, testified at one of the commission’s public hearings. 

Another commission member, James J. Duderstadt, an engineer by training and president emeritus of the University of Michigan, notes in an e-mail that several innovative projects -- MIT’s Open Courseware initiative, the Sakai Open Source Learning Management Project, and the Google Book Project, among others --were cited in earlier drafts of the commission’s report, “but I had these deleted because I felt it was inappropriate since [some individual] commissioners were involved with each [of these projects].” 

(For the record, Duderstadt wordsmithed some “after the final vote” language to mollify another commission member, Gerri Elliott, corporate vice president of Microsoft’s Worldwide Public Sector division, who “vigorously” objected to the language in the third draft supporting open-source software and open-content projects in higher education.)

In response to my questions about Neumont, the Spellings commission’s chairman, Charles Miller, reports via e-mail that he made the final choices about the institutions cited in the final document. Miller states that “Neumont University was one of the best and most interesting models I had ever seen.… It had been recognized by MSNBC, Forbes and CNN, after having been brought to our attention by Nick Donofrio.” (For the record, the MSNBC and Forbes recognition came mid-summer, as the commission’s staff was drafting and rewriting the document. The MSNBC segment, on August 30, was broadcast after the Commission released the third, and near final, draft of its report.)

Miller lists a number of attributes he found to be innovative about Neumont. It was “initiated and financed with private capital” and “founded by experienced successful business people,” he writes. It “produces sets of skills for students that are market driven.” “fits the STEM [science, technology, math, engineering] model,” graduates students whose “salaries were significantly higher than average,” and offers a “replicable model.” Miller’s e-mail also says that Neumont also offers “an appealing model, designed for the students, efficiency, productivity, and relevance.”  

Miller notes that Neumont is a young institution “and not without some risk… but how does innovation happen without that [i.e., risk]? That risk taking is what we need in higher education … and it is very hard to find.”

Miller’s assessment about risk is accurate: higher education is incredibly risk-averse. For example, venture capitalists know that at best, maybe one, possibly two of every 10- investments will be successful; the rest will crash, and burn lots of cash as they do so.  Yet what dean dares to approach a provost or president (or what president would dare approach a board) to offer 10 program proposals and, as part of the pitch, acknowledge that only one or two of the 10 programs would be successful?  Alas, the rules of risk and criteria for success are decidedly different in the nonprofit sector.

But Miller’s comments about Neumont’s “efficiency” may be incorrect: a quick, back of the envelope calculation of per-student expenditures for Morrison University during A/Y 2004, which includes Neumont’s financial and enrollment numbers during what Graham Doxley called the start-up phase -- reveal that per-student expenditures were about $68,500 per FTE student -- higher than the FTE expenditures at many of the nation’s small, elite (and very expensive)  private liberal arts colleges. Neumont’s president, Doxley, reports that FTE expenditures for A/Y 2007 are lower, as Neumont’s enrollments are up and the university is now past some of its start-up and curriculum development costs.

The commission’s endorsement now appears on the Neumont Web site alongside logos from MSNBC, Forbes and InformationWeek. And that endorsement will translate into tens of thousands of dollars of free publicity that Neumont could not have purchased, raising its profile among prospective students as well as corporate officials and campus administrators.  As a for-profit institution, the free PR and raised profile could translate into increased enrollments and, by extension, rising revenues and profits for Neumont. 

I understand that it will be all too easy to dismiss these comments as the rantings of a tweed-jacketed traditionalist who rejects change and is inherently hostile to the Spellings commission report and the for-profit sector of American higher education. Not so. Yes, like others, I can pick at the details of the commission’s work, arguing that its key critiques and major recommendations often aggregate a number of reports and critiques published over the past two decades.  However, the aggregation may prove useful, assuming that Miller and Education Secretary Margaret Spellings use the bully pulpit of the report to persuade and inform, while resisting the (political) temptation to cite the report as holy dicta.

For the record, I hope Neumont survives and prospers, that its students get good, well-paying jobs, and that its founders and investors secure a fair return for their time, efforts and money. The Forbes article indicates that Neumont’s students, faculty, graduates, founders and investors take great pride in and feel great affection for the place.

But honestly, is Neumont really one of the best, most innovative colleges in the country?  Perhaps, at least against the criteria outlined by Miller. But with due respect to Neumont’s students, faculty, and founders, and also to Miller’s comments about the need for risk and innovation, is this really the best example of a replicable curricular innovation that might “trickle over” to other sectors, as opposed to being cloned by other, aspiring for-profits eager to tap the demand for technology degrees and training? 

Ample research confirms that individual and organizational change occurs with some, but not too much, dissonance: individuals and organization eager to change need to be able to visualize their capacity to do so. But by highlighting Neumont, the commission has selected a model that is just probably too dissonant and too distant for the vast majority of U.S. colleges and universities.

Kenneth C. Green is the founding director of the Campus Computing Project and a visiting scholar at the Claremont Graduate University.

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Comments on The Most Innovative College in America?

  • Posted by doc on October 9, 2006 at 7:50am EDT
  • Thank you. Inherent mistrust of Spelling's report is necessary. Considering the history of neglect of education, in general, by those who head the current government, and the interesting choice of Spelling to head the commission, skepticism is warranted. It is no fluke a for-profit school received such accolades, in my opinion. That it did is consistent with the current thought that business, especially big busiiness can do everything better and more successfully than any other group. The article could be disheartening, but should not be. For-profits are here to stay, this should serve as a goad for traditional institutions to rise to the challenge. I thank the author for the article, gave me a "thought-so" smile for the morning.

  • Posted by Jim on October 9, 2006 at 8:45am EDT
  • It is interesting...a school with 27 graduates gets cited...in a national forum.... it sounds and smells like politics: it is who you know not what you know...

    profit or non profit......it does not matter, to make the claims that were made without researching those claims.is not a wise idea.....good article........

  • Neumont College and for profit education
  • Posted by feudi pandola on October 9, 2006 at 8:45am EDT
  • I agree with the author in wishing great success to Neumont. I am less sanguine than he, however, about the effects that for profit schools will have on education in America. My reason for this is our experience with for profits in the hospital healthcare sector. In 1995, the owner of U.S. Healthcare made a profit of $900,000,000 when he sold out to Aetna. Between 1998 and 2002, Tenet Healthcare swindled $1.4 Billion out of Medicare while its former CEO walked away with $111,000,000 in stock options and tens of millions more in a Golden Parachute deal. The same sorts of deals have already spilled over into the student loan industry. The CEO of SallieMae
    earned $42 Million dollars a few years ago
    and no one raised an eyebrow or asked any questions. Is that level of pay consistent with a mission of educating college students?

    I am a capitalist but I also believe that certain sectors within society are not helped by the profit motive. Education and healthcare to be two such areas. They are just too important to the nation to be subjected to the same forces that drive profit seeking companies...at least it has turned out that way in healthcare so far.

    I am a capitalist, but these sort of economic

  • The Numbers are small!
  • Posted by Phil Beigbeder , MAED Graduate Student at University of Phoenix on October 9, 2006 at 10:00am EDT
  • It seems that validity is questionable here, as the numbers are so small. Also, the longitudinal ramifications are non existant. It also seems true that these institutions are exceptional, as is this article, but little n in statistics muct be
    > 30 to have any measureable validity. Time tested institutions with longitudinal measure show us the best results in education. I am glad for these schools,and their existance is surely needed in our technical world!
    Good article!

  • Posted by David Allen Harvey , Associate Professor at New College of Florida on October 9, 2006 at 10:25am EDT
  • Wow...if we could get $68K per student, we could show some pretty impressive results as well! It is certainly an interesting choice of example for a commission whose major concern was soaring college costs.

  • education vs training
  • Posted by Alan Contreras , Administrator at Oregon Office of Degree Authorization on October 9, 2006 at 10:50am EDT
  • Thank you for the excellent commentary on Neumont. I think it was David Noble who reminded us a few years back that education is what enables you to do well what you want to do, and training is what enables you to do well what someone else wants you to do. The Spellings report in selecting Neumont has singled out a fine example of a job-training provider. I am disappointed but hardly surprised that they mistook it for an educational institution. Society needs both, to be sure, but we need to be clear about the difference.

  • Why the Praise?
  • Posted by John F. DeFelice , Associate Professor of History at University of Maine at Presque ISle on October 9, 2006 at 12:45pm EDT
  • I have come to the conclusion that the Bush Administration wants to privitize everything. That is an important keystone to their radical (not conservative) platform. Thus my conclusion is that such praise for a small, untried, unknown institution in an offical but controversial government document rests upon a foundation of ideological compatibility with the adminsitration's goals more than anything else. They may or may not prove to be a quality institution, but such praise of a start up school with no real track record is reckless pandering.

  • diversity/marginalized populations
  • Posted by wayne a. gilbert , chair, arts and humanities at community college of aurora on October 9, 2006 at 12:45pm EDT
  • I teach in a small, suburban, non-residential community college on the edge of the civilized world. Among our students, 85 native languages other than English are spoken. They come from 100 nations of origin. Nearly all are first-generation college students on financial aid. Over half require pre-college developmental work, either because they didn't do so well in high school, or because it's been a long, long time, or because they don't bring much education in the first place--just the desire to improve their lives. The age range is 16 to 80. 85-90% of our courses are taught by adjuncts. We offer a handful of occupational programs and general education program for transfer. Year after year, we have suffered budget cuts. We working fricking miracles here w/diverse, marginalized populations. I call it "3rd World Missionary Work." To ignore our contributions in favor of a selective, for-profit tech school is as despicable as it gets!

  • Noble quote
  • Posted by Rod Paynter on October 9, 2006 at 2:05pm EDT
  • Alan Contreras - That certainly looks like something that Noble might have said. Can you (or anyone reading this) tell me where I might find a citation for it? I want to use it.

    Thanks.

  • Posted by AM Cohen , Emeritus Prof at UCLA on October 9, 2006 at 2:55pm EDT
  • Casey Green's comments on the Spelling
    Commission's singling out for acclaim a highly specialized, institution with a questionable pedigree and dubious contributions are commendable. Who or what was the Commission looking at? What were their criteria? And to think that people complain about the way Newsweek creates its rankings!

  • Ethics is a Thing of the Past
  • Posted by Sharon P. on October 9, 2006 at 4:30pm EDT
  • I find it interesting that an institution tha promotes business does not promote that which is integral to the business world---Ethics as it relates to conflicts of interest. Go figure. Perhaps, they have not followed some of the more recent corporate scandals.

  • Narrow curriculum
  • Posted by Rob Rittenhouse , Assoc. Prof at McMurry University on October 9, 2006 at 4:31pm EDT
  • Speaking as a Computer Science/CIS faculty person the program at Neumont is rather narrow. I would not say it is unacceptable but ...

    It does have some good features -- I like the project-based approach.

    They do not seem to be accredited by the Computing Science Accreditation Board (note that not all programs are but most of the top programs probably are).

  • CS Curriculum
  • Posted by Kim Bruce , Professor of CS on October 9, 2006 at 10:55pm EDT
  • The Neumont University CS curriculum is sadly lacking. I wouldn't urge anyone interested in CS to enroll there. Here is the list of their tracks through the major:
    Basic Microsoft Track
    Comprehensive Microsoft Track
    Comprehensive IBM Track
    Basic Microsoft and IBM Track
    Comprehensive Microsoft and IBM Track

    This list of tracks shows that they are keying on current technology for two major employers. This is a very bad idea in a field that moves quickly. Much better to teach fundamental principles and then show current technology as instantiations of those principles than to focus on the software artifacts themselves.

  • Complete Satisfaction
  • Posted by Corey Kaylor on October 10, 2006 at 5:05am EDT
  • Although this article covered Neumont's questionable success. It does a horrible job of noting its good points. I have just finished my curriculum at Neumont University and can attest that it is innovative and challenging. In my opinion, the two most important things of a good school are high paying salaries for graduating students, and that those graduates go on to make a real impact for their employers. I can attest to both. The average salary for Neumont students thus far have has been $60,000. Is our education better than the next school? Better is debatable. The school is getting a lot of attention, and I’m not suggesting people shouldn’t be informed of all sides, but this article does little on Neumont’s behalf. I challenge Mr. Green to spend a little more than phone time researching the school and maybe see for himself. To address some of the comments about “training”, Neumont’s curriculum teaches the students to learn for themselves. An essential skill that is required of any computer science graduate that doesn’t want to be left behind. With all that said, Neumont does have its faults. There were many growing pains along the way. An inexperienced Financial Aid department (now remedied), and many teachers that came one quarter and were gone the next. The general education although not all bad, could use improvement. Despite the rough road, attending Neumont University is a choice I will never regret and I doubt you’ll find many (if any) students that do. One other note, Graham’s last name is Doxey, not Doxley.

  • What Constitutes Innovation?
  • Posted by Scott McKinley on October 10, 2006 at 8:45am EDT
  • For better or worse, Neumont can clearly not stand upon the hundreds of years of tradition and exclusivity we so often associate with higher education. Whether those attributes contribute or stifle innovation in higher edu. can be debated by others. What I believe the commission's report does a very clear job of is outlining 21st century needs for higher education in America and interestingly, these needs center on a very concise series of "A"s for the report card:

    - Accessability
    - Affordability
    - Alignment (both with high school curricula and with professional / industry needs)
    - Acceleration (cost effectiveness)
    - Accountability (outcomes driven)

    I am familiar with the Neumont instructional approach and pedagogy and would suggest to the readers of this blog that the reason why Mr. Donofrio and others on the commission found the Neumont story (however lacking in tradition and exclusivity) compelling and "innovative" is because it addreses these very issues. Obviously, Neumont had two very significant (some would say unfair) advantagesin building the curriculum: a white board (aids in innovative efforts tremendously) and capital. Note that these are precisely the two major assets that the Olin School of Engineering began with.

    Specifically, consider each "A" on the report card:

    Accessability - Neumont's acceptance ratio tells us that the college is more concerned with "aptitude" rather than simply selecting the top 10% to educate. (Recent and very insightful comments by MIT's Dean of Admissions, Marilee Jones, about the need to foster creativity and how that might impact the admissions process are worth inclusion here if space permitted).
    Affordability - the TOTAL tuition fees for the entire bachelors degree in computer science at Neumont is around $70,000 - less than half the "sticker price" of most private universities in the country.
    Alignment - Neumont's project, team and peer-to-peer mentoring based approach to education is a VERY unusual and effective model that is only mirrored at a few of the nation's more innovative charter and magnet K-12 schools. Alignment and suitability of the curriculum with industry speaks for itself given IBM and other employers' endorsements.
    Accelerated - the fact that a Neumont student can graduate in two years by attending college year round (they are in session 40 weeks per year) drives a fairly interesting return on a student's tuition dollars given the $60,000 salaries being achieved by graduates.
    Accountability - Neumont has put a very clear stake in the ground and made it clear that a professional college of engineering is about meeting the needs of employers (in this case of software development talent). As those employers' needs are carefully considered and met, key decisions regarding the curriculum and educational model emerge. "Outcomes" and accountability (as with Harvard Business School or any other professional program) are measured by placement data including the quality of the employers and salaries. Fortunately, at this stage of the effort, it appears as if the early indicators are positive for Neumont and its core constituents: employers, graduates, and faculty. By the way, before anyone dismisses the curriculum too quickly, you need to look carefully at those names associated with the college: Dr. Terry Halpin, Grady Booch, Dr. Peter Denning, et al.

    Scott McKinley, a Neumont Co-founder

  • The Mission of a University
  • Posted by Tim Lacy , Historian, Ph.D. on October 10, 2006 at 2:20pm EDT
  • Consider what follows an echo of Alan Contreras' posting.

    What is a university? Is it a place where people are trained to complete specific tasks, or a place where people are schooled in the liberal arts, the arts of the free person? Is it a place where only two subjects are studied (i.e. business and computer programming)? Is a university, an educational institution, a place where profits ought to be made off something that contributes to the common good?

    The loosening of the term 'university' that has taken place in the past 15-20 years is distressing. At the turn of the twentieth century, education observers worried over the rise of science and reacted by reinforcing the humanities. Here, at the turn of the twenty-first century, the for-profit university makes this humanist long for the days of just being concerned about the rise of the empirical sciences.

    More and more I am coming to the opinion that EVERY higher education institution ought to necessarily be a non-profit. Everything else should be an 'institute' or some such term.

  • Posted by Mike H. on October 10, 2006 at 3:35pm EDT
  • RE: Tim Lacy's comments: "More and more I am coming to the opinion that EVERY higher education institution ought to necessarily be a non-profit. Everything else should be an ‘institute’ or some such term."

    That's nice in a "Pie in the Sky" type of thinking, but almost every higher education that claims to be "non-profit" is really only hiding behind a tax-exempt technicality. Between tuition increases, lab fees, registration fees, student life fees, dorm fees, alumni fund raising, endowments, athletic marketing / facilities / TV rights and overall merchandising, it's all about profit.

    Many "for profit" schools have found a way to focus on affordable education for working adults rather than federally funded research grants to contemplate their navels and tuition hikes merely to increase the amount of Federal Student Aid they receive.

    There may still be some truly not for profit schools out there, but they are the exception rather than the rule. So, I say "Hooray" for schools like Neumont. Maybe they'll survive and maybe they won't. Only the market and time will tell.

  • Posted by John Bear on October 11, 2006 at 5:30am EDT
  • A search for President Doxey (not Doxley) determines that he also seem to be, or recently have been, president of Northface University in Utah. As Jack Benny used to say, "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

    There is also a Graham Doxey who is on the 'short list' for the next Apostle of the Church of Latter Day Saints.

  • Get your facts straight.
  • Posted by Anonymous , CSD on October 11, 2006 at 12:45pm EDT
  • John Bear, please get your facts straight before you comment on here. First, the reason Graham Doxey's name appears as president of Northface is because Neumont is Northface. Northface changed its name to neumont for legal reasons about 2 years ago. Also, I would love to see were Graham's name is on the shortlist for the next LDS apostle, since The LDS church doesn't keep any sort of list stating who would be in line for apostleship. Give me a reference or else please don't make unfounded claims that you know nothing about.

  • Goals of a University and Profit vs Non-Profit
  • Posted by Jon Hall , President at Linux International on October 12, 2006 at 11:21am EDT
  • I feel that the goals of a university are not to train someone in the use of a specific set of tools or for a specific job. I feel that the goals of a university are to teach people how to think, how to find information, and how to sift through the data they find to get the information they need. If they have learned this, then they are "educated" for life, and not just until the version number changes on the software they have been trained on.

    While a lot of universities seem to charge a lot of money, or seem to have "profit making
    motives", most universities which are listed as "non-profit" are exactly that, and the sad truth of the fact is that education, and particularly "traditional" education, is expensive. Buildings have to be built and ome "for profit" institutions are really "not for maintained, salaries have to be paid, equipment purchased and replaced.

    Many years ago I taught in a small, two-year
    technical college. We had no dormatories, no swimming pool, no football field, a real "bare bones" college experience, but we had a very good academic program that placed a high percentage of our students in good jobs.

    The students complained about the $420. per year (in 1977) that they paid in tuition, until I pointed out that the real cost of providing them a year's worth of college was in the order of $8,000, the bulk of which
    was provided by the state.

    If I thought that my tax money was going to go directly toward the school system, and directly to providing better (and not just more expensive) education for the students, I would hand my wallet over to the government.

    Unfortuately a lot of my faith in that happening has been lost. Apparently a lot of other people feel that way too, which is why they are spending a lot of extra money to attend privately funded institutions.

  • The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
  • Posted by Edward Mitchell , Adjunct Faculty (ret.) at Neumont University on November 26, 2006 at 6:01am EST
  • As a former Neumont adjunct I can attest to the incredible momentum the school has built. And I may be wrong, and I'll be happy to be corrected herein...this is just my humble screed no less, I don't speak for the management or students, but it is still an extra-ordinary phenomenon in higher education. I left Utah to take other employment outside the state, but I considered it a privilege to be a part of such a extraordinary institution.

    Critics maintain there is something fishy about the Morrison-Neumont connection and the truth is that the founders of the Neumont were very wise to fast-track the creation of the Neumont University as part of Morrison University because they needed to make the business end of the venture get up and running fast without being mired in endless accreditation chores. By picking up the legacy Morrison institution, the founders streamlined the creation of top-notch school without letting a barrier to entry impede their momentum. This is just sound business. It allows them to be able to offer financial aid to students. And it pulls two institutions up into the "batters box" where they can have a fighting chance to succeed. And it tells investors they are serious about meeting goals and achieving results, something almost a sin in any larger institution.

    One critic focused on the software/platform tracks offered as narrow and kowtowing to industry whims. Uh, excuse me, but that is what the industry is saying it wants and rather than putting all their eggs into one basket Neumont has chosen to take several of the top technologies and partner with them right out of the gate. Would they be wise to teach FORTRAN and QBASIC at this stage? Me thinks not. And is anyone going to disagree that you can't get a better education by being thrown into the thick of current platforms, even at the expense of outdated ones? Learning current, industry-standard platforms needn't be a rote experience. It's not like the faculty aren't aware of the pitfalls, limitations and industry-bias that may come from one or another platform; they offer their critiques of the content as well as expound it.

    The schools excels at project based learning (and assessment no less). The project-centric nature of the assignments and the folding in of these within the enterprise projects (working with leading technology companies on group-based projects) hones the students into lean, mean creating machines in record time. It's like SEAL training for software development. And top companies can't get enough of it: Neumont students come into the private sector workplace not just hitting the ground running, they kind of make skid marks they are off so fast. What better way to land a job than to make the interns from the competing institutions look like moths compared to the Neumont students who are more like humming birds.

    If you come from a more traditional university background you'll at once be smitten like I was with the feline adaptability of the Neumont paradigm: if it works they keep it, if it doesn't they dive in, evaluate, investigate and change it without fear of alienating stakeholders because the mission isn't held hostage to the institution. I was amazed at the ability of the founders, along with such brilliant managers such as Eve Andersson, just to name one of many, who are acutely aware of the need to focus on creating the best possible outcome for the students, the enterprise partners, the future employers and the school's investors. Success in one population instantly translates into success for another, and so on. It's quite organic; so fresh and full of vitality--it actually taps into the best instinctual motives of all the participants and in doing that brings the best out of all them.

    Traditional institutions almost seemed threaten by Neumont; it's doing what they can't in record time at a record pace.If you've ever taught or been in a large traditional university "system" you know what I'm speaking of: change is hard, someone is always threatened by a new idea and it takes forever to bring about positive change. Don't get me wrong, I applaud the venerated institutions as bastions of research and repositories of esoteric tangential theories. But if you want to get up and out and into the field and work for a living, going to a traditional school is like sucking warmed Alpo through a straw compared to Neumont's Wolfgang Puckesque menu of high-flavor, good-for-you tasty treats.

    You can also hear the rustling and squirming of the members of the traditional university faculty reading this: they'd die to have the chance to be listened too and to have even a marginal impact on their own institution's curriculum and focus. [Don't worry, I think Neumont will be expanding soon]

    That's the Good and my little swipe at being Ugly, now for the bad: I do wish the students had a bit more exposure to humanities, fine arts and just about anything else a larger institution offers. I felt a little sorry for some of the students because they could only get so much of the other parts of the traditional university experience. No popping over to the field house for water polo, no meeting at the old commons at midnight, no freaky art majors to date. And no frat houses, no football team, no cheerleaders. And it's in Utah. Ouch. What do you expect though, it's a small school getting it's core academic act together at a record pace. I suspect life in most cities offers some of these things via just plain growing up. So students entering Neumont from a rural perspective might be at a appreciable disadvantage compared to those from a more cosmopolitan background. I guess they'll need to travel and read and live once they start making that heralded $60k+.

    Kudos to Neumont, and thanks for your time reading this.