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November 17, 2006

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“I do not know very much about painting, but I know enough to know that the Art teacher did not know much about it either and that, furthermore, she did not know or care anything at all about the way in which you can destroy a human being.  Stephen, in many ways already dying, died a second and third and fourth and final death before her anger.”

So wrote Jonathan Kozol in Death at an Early Age, the 1967 exposé of American public education drawn from the author’s hands-on work as a substitute teacher. Forty years later, I hear echoes of the young Kozol in regular e-mails from my recently graduated Georgetown University students who are teaching in public schools all across the country.

For example, last year Kristen Hutchens recounted a time when a 7th grader named Hernando stood up in her Washington Heights classroom and shouted, “School is for white people,” a plaintive cry given the 49 percent high school completion rate for New York State Latinos. Hanseul Kang described Native American high school students in Thoreau, N.M., who couldn’t care less about failing classes given the endemic poverty engulfing them. Emily Conger wrote about how it took her the good part of each morning just to calm down the chronically angry Baton Rouge first-graders she was trying to teach.

Kristen, Hanseul and Emily all worked in Teach For America (TFA), the 16-year-old program through which can-do college graduates teach some of America’s neediest public school students. In the last three years, more than 30 young Georgetown graduates I’ve taught or mentored have taken this path. All have been challenged very deeply in multiple ways. As I hear about their work, the victories and the struggles, the problems they see and the personal limitations they feel, it has become clear to me that now is the right time for higher education and Teach For America to work together in a more formal partnership.

For higher education, a new relationship makes sense for a number of reasons. TFA has an outstanding and altruistic mission. It has achieved demonstrably powerful results while maintaining a commitment to continuous evaluation and improvement. With a growing force of 4,400 idealistic graduates preaching and embodying the power of college in underserved communities across the country, TFA may help higher education address one of great challenges of our future -- the shocking reality that only 1 in 17 children from families earning less the $35,000 per year will earn a college degree by age 24.

Teach For America is also important for higher education because of the impact it's having on many campuses right now. With 19,000 applicants last year, the organization is clearly connecting with our students’ personal and civic values. At Georgetown, 8 to 9 percent of last year’s graduating seniors applied to TFA -- more than applied to medical school. As a result, TFA is the No. 1 employer of members of our class of 2006. We need to take this phenomenon seriously and see how we can support our students’ aspirations.

We also need to take seriously the complexity and difficulty of the experience our students have once they get started in TFA. The young women and men who write to me describe the first year as a baptism-by-fire in which past achievements count for nothing, and success, writes former San Jose teacher Joanna Belcher, requires “every ounce of energy and intellect.” As brand-new teachers, they have to figure out how to teach and how to maintain order. They often need to create materials and even curricula from scratch. Most of their students test well below grade level; some have trying or desperate needs.

And then there are the dilemmas: What to do when students won’t even try to cooperate? When school lunches taste so bad that hungry kids won’t eat them? When the children see broken-down buildings as symbols of how little society values them? Hard-working and sleep-deprived, obsessed with helping their children, my former students brood over such questions and sometimes chastise themselves for not making a fast-enough impact.

As I listen to young people who I’ve taught and know well, even as they struggle, I see so many different ways that they’re growing. In Roma, Tex., Steve de Man showed the initiative to raise $42,000 to bring two groups of 40 middle school students to visit the nation’s capital. In the Mississippi Delta, Mike Griffin demonstrated the flexibility and perseverance to teach extremely well after being assigned to a new school midyear. Nicole Benvenuto and Grace Tse were able to see the beauty in individual victories.  Joanna Belcher learned to draw upon the resources of others at her school to become an even better teacher.  

Elena Romerdahl found a hero in her New York City principal. Marya Murray Diaz developed an intellectual love for critical pedagogy and its implications for her outreach to working class parents. Last summer, Joseph Almeida described how his fifth grade class in Washington Heights gained 1.5 years in reading growth and also exceeded its 80 percent math content mastery goal, concluding, “It was incredible to see their transformations and the power that the acquisition of knowledge had on their self-esteem and continually improving academic performance.”

One of my favorite stories concerns Sophia Pappas, who entered in 2003. Right from the start, her Newark elementary school principal complained that he didn’t want her, and in October she was summarily fired. With rent to pay and no other job, she spent the rest of that year working in TFA’s New Jersey office. Many would have decided to move on at that point, but instead Sophia chose to start over the next fall teaching pre-K at a different school. For the next two years she taught brilliantly and immersed herself in her students’ lives, winning teaching awards. Having now completed the two-year TFA term, Sophia is staying at her school for at least one more year before starting graduate study in education policy.

As a professor, I love the fact that TFA believes in my students, and it lifts me to watch those I have taught rise to its demands. There’s no question that some of the formative experiences they have in the program will shape them for a lifetime, the way Jonathan Kozol’s shaped him.  

That said, when I reread the e-mails I get from the front lines, it’s clear that some beginning teachers could use more preparation and more intensive on-going support. I have especially heard this from first-year teachers placed in special education or limited English proficiency classrooms. Such problems are compounded when new teachers get assigned to schools where the administration can’t support them or may not even want them.

While these difficulties affect a minority of Corps members, they could worsen with the organization’s plan to expand from 4,400 teachers this year to 7,500 in 2010. This is another reason why higher education needs to sit up and take notice. Frankly, these growth plans only make sense if the organization can recruit and support an even larger cohort of exceptional graduates determined to transform young lives. I’m not sure TFA can do this alone -- which brings me to some of the ways higher education might reach out in partnership.   

First, we should help more undergraduates qualify themselves to be accepted -- not because we necessarily prefer TFA over other options, but because significant percentages of our seniors clearly do.  We might expand community-based learning courses, student research opportunities, and leadership development programs. We might partner with TFA to help undergraduates learn early what it will take to get selected -- maybe even by giving them teaching internships with current or former Corps members.  We also should evaluate our current university-run youth programs to make sure they’re in sync with the schools’ curricula and benchmarks. There’s no reason we can’t teach college students how to develop work plans to bring the children they’re mentoring up to or beyond grade level; maybe TFA and its leading feeder campuses could work together on this and thereby strengthen the applicant pool.

Second, as the Princeton University English professor Jeff Dolven has observed, colleges and universities could make a big impact by extending new resources to our teaching alums -- all teachers, not just Corps members. Perhaps we could provide access to free or reduced cost textbooks, class materials, library resources or summer courses. We might identify professors willing to serve as intellectual mentors or discussion leaders for chat rooms. We could certainly bring these teachers together for workshops, symposia, or opportunities to reflect and reconnect. The first year of teaching can be so bracing, and so lonely. Creating networks for problem-solving, dialogue, and dreaming is both the right thing to do and the smart thing to do.  

The idea of working with TFA will be controversial in some quarters of higher education, because the model has its detractors. Some question whether freshly minted college graduates are the best fit for the high-stakes classrooms of distressed school districts. Another concern is that the two-year TFA term requires struggling schools to spend too much time mentoring new teachers and managing turnover. A third is that the program is growing too quickly.

These are fair and important concerns. TFA has good answers to each of them, pointing to students test scores, principal satisfaction and the high caliber of recruits. I would argue -- and I’m confident TFA would agree -- that these are perennial quality issues and not one-time questions to resolve. So, a third area of potential collaboration might be the establishment of a new TFA advisory board of faculty, alumni, students and university leaders to look at such issues, year in and year out, and bring the resources of universities to bear on those areas that give concern.  

Higher education, Teach For America, and the schools that TFA serves have a lot to gain from a new partnership. Of course, thousands of our own students and alumni already know this. This generation of young graduates has responded to the American ideal of equal educational opportunity with a sense of urgency, and don’t want the children sitting before them, right now, to die at an early age. Our teaching alums remind us that creating opportunity for children is everybody’s job.

Daniel R. Porterfield is vice president for public affairs and strategic development and an assistant professor of English at Georgetown University.

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Comments on Time to Team Up with Teach For America

  • Better Ways to Spend Resources
  • Posted by Ira Socol at Michigan State University on November 17, 2006 at 8:46am EST
  • I have said it before here, and I know many will deeply object, but I believe that TFA contributes to the widening of gaps in society by providing a program that does more for the participants than for the children that it is supposed to serve. I think that it is obvious that the students in the schools most anxious to have TFA participants truly need experienced, well-trained, long-term-committed teachers who understand educational practice, educational theory, and the communities.

    So I would much prefer that my institution, and all others, put their energies into alternative certification programs that turn community members - especially those already working in schools in "less than teacher" capacities - into trained, certified teachers.

    TFA is altruistic - yes - but it is the altruism of colonialism. We should be encouraging better ideas.

  • improving ubran teaching
  • Posted by Jeremy on November 17, 2006 at 9:00am EST
  • I don't believe TFA is the way to improve teaching in urban settings. TFA has too many problems - too high rates of teacher turnover, lack of sufficient preparation before 'throwing teachers to the wolves', and others.
    If we want to be serious about preparing teachers for urban, impoverished schools, one model that has shown great success is UCLA's direct partnership with urban schools.
    http://www.centerx.gseis.ucla.edu/tep/

  • a partnership with teacher education
  • Posted by Dan W. Butin on November 17, 2006 at 11:15am EST
  • Dr. Porterfield is certainly correct that TFA should be supported. I think it offers an excellent opportunity for undergraduate students not in the traditional teacher education pipeline to become classroom teachers through a fairly comprehensive, “fast track”, alternative pathway. (And contra Ira and Jeremy, these are not either/or scenarios. There are already not enough “committed” teachers out there; that is why TFA exists. And while UCLA has a great program, it does not produce anywhere near the number of teachers that TFA does.) But this is exactly where Dr. Porterfield’s argument falls off the track. His fundamental argument is that higher education should partner with TFA to, among other things, better support prospective candidates such that they will become better candidates and better future teachers. But higher education already does that. It’s called teacher education. Georgetown University, Dr. Porterfield’s university, does not have a teacher education program. But they do have an excellent center called CNDLS—the Center for New Designs in Learning and Scholarship—that already supports graduate students and faculty in the teaching and learning process. And I dare say that there are multiple institutions in the greater DC area such that Georgetown students can get some very good teacher education courses under their belt. To suggest that higher education should somehow “partner” with TFA is to presume that there’s nobody out there already preparing teachers for urban and rural teaching. That is just plain silly. This line of reasoning falls squarely into the reductive and useless bickering over what it means to be a “highly qualified teacher.” One side says high standards and an infrastructure of professionalism; the other side says pretty much anything goes so long as candidates have high SAT scores and no criminal record (I know, I know, I’m simplifying. But anyone can do the research and get the details.) Moreover, Dr. Porterfield misses the critical point that TFA is explicitly not looking for teacher education candidates. So his suggestion for “partnerships” almost goes against TFA’s recruitment strategy. I might suggest, instead, that we more legitimately begin talking about partnerships between teacher education and TFA. Now that would be novel.

  • TFA and Students will Benefit from More University Partnerships
  • Posted by Luis Torres , Social Studies Teacher at DC Charter School on November 17, 2006 at 11:15am EST
  • I agree very much that TFA could benefit from more partnerships with universities where it recruits students for the program. In my opinion, Georgetown University in particular, with its emphasis on social justice and service, would be an ideal place to begin a higher-ed partnership. Georgetown is an ideal place to recruit highly motivated, deeply committed students for Teach for America. I know that many friends that applied and did not get accepted into the program for one reason or another. We can't afford to lose these individuals. We need them teaching and in our schools.

    I'm not writing this to preach that Teach for America is the be-all-end-all solution to our schools' problems. There are lots of initiatives that are aimed at improving teacher quality and performance in our public schools but as a member of the DC Corp I appreciate all the support and training that is offered for first and second year teachers. The most valuable help for me has been sitting with other fellow first and second year teachers and both getting practical information that I can use in my classroom and support in times of stress.

    Moreover, as a current TFA social studies teacher in the District of Columbia I have experienced first-hand the difficulties of teaching from finding mentors or tutors for my kids, to getting books, speakers, and access to top of the line resources. Having graduated from Georgetown in 2005 and participated in the Community-based learning program in the sociology department, I can definitely envision how universities and local schools and institutions like TFA could partner up and provide each other with the resources to alleviate some of the needs in our classrooms.

    More specifically, universities such as Georgetown could use its research capabilities, outstanding professors, and alumni networks to help establish a program that will prepare potential teachers of the future! It would be amazing to see Georgetown establish an Education department or a major/minor/certificate program for its undergraduates.

    I think the Georgetown community of alumni teachers would greatly support any initiative to establish a community-based research program that links TFA schools, teachers, and students with committed professors and students in a partnership to close the education gap in our country.

    Dr. Porterfield was one of my mentors while I was an undergraduate at Georgetown University. There is no need to say that I admire his work and his dedication to his students and that he works diligently to establish relationships with those he teaches.

  • Now we're getting somewhere
  • Posted by Dan W. Butin on November 17, 2006 at 11:45am EST
  • Luis wrote:
    “It would be amazing to see Georgetown establish an Education department or a major/minor/certificate program for its undergraduates.”

    Ahhh…now we’re getting somewhere. But then Dr. Porterfield should have just said as much. The key is that future teachers need the opportunity to learn (usually coursework), the opportunity to practice (usually a practicum of some sort), and the opportunity to change (usually engagement with controversial educational issues through coursework and community-based learning). Teacher education does this; TFA does this. Creating a center at Georgetown might also do this. The key is not where such opportunities occur; the key is that they do occur. Else, as Dr. Porterfield rightly notes, we default back to (even if somewhat exaggerated) Kozol’s opening quote.

  • Posted by Regine , Doc student at NYU on November 17, 2006 at 11:45am EST
  • As I understand it, one of the hopes underlying TFA is that people who will later go on to become "movers and shakers" - judges, CEOs, whatever - will shape their actions in those positions in light of what they remember from and about their time in the classroom, and I think that in itself is not a terrible idea.

    But it sounds to me like what Daniel Porterfield calls for here is something we find in colleges of education, however well or poorly done it might be there. Maybe if faculty in other disciplines - and I realize this doesn't apply to everyone, but it certainly is common - changed their dismissive attitudes towards pedagogical instruction, students would in turn come to value it a little more themselves... and then the devoted greenhorns of TFA might be just a little less green.

  • Broken record
  • Posted by Conflicted on November 17, 2006 at 12:25pm EST
  • I've said it before and I'll say it again (much like Ira Socol's comment above)...Teach For America is a service program for graduates of elite universities, and let's not have any illusions about it.

    I think it's great that they want to expand, but I question how that expansion will occur. Will they be extending their recruitment efforts to highly qualified graduates of public universities? Or will they simply accept more grads from Princeton and Harvard?

    I just have this wacky idea that graduates from those "other" places might be good candidates for TFA. I'd like to see TFA expand its recruitment. I'd also be happy with the creation of another teaching service program that recruits from a less exclusive pool.

  • Posted by Susan on November 17, 2006 at 1:20pm EST
  • Coming from an urban school myself, I would argue that even many of the salaried teachers are underqualified and underprepared to teach inner city students. Something that TFA teachers bring to the table is an enthusiasm and passion which many public school teachers have lost. The lack of interest, apathy, and disillusionment many teachers develop in the public school system hinders their teaching abilities just as much as a lack of experience would. Urban schools are in great need of dedicated, motivated, passionate teachers, teachers who will take an interest in each student's life, such as those who participate in TFA.

  • Posted by Lynne on November 17, 2006 at 3:10pm EST
  • You mention the apathy of teachers, let me tell you after 31 years of dedicated teaching, the school district I taught in got rid of me because they had to "pay" me too much. Educational systems needs a complete overhaul, we need values and basics that need to be taught to all children regardless of their ethnicity. I am currently teaching Foundations of Education and I am trying to tell my students that these problems are out there and they need to address them. Educational institutions are not producing teachers who have the whole picture. Of course, even when I graduated in 1969, we weren't really taught how hard it was going to be, the politics, the paperwork, the variety of problems that we were going to have to work with. I saw mainstreaming and integration instituted. I never really felt that we as teachers were prepared to meet these challenges. It is no wonder teachers burn out and get out. Administrators need to get back into the classroom every 5 years or so and find out what is really going on. We need to do something soon, or we will continue to do worse than many other countries. Maybe Hilary was right when she said it took a village to raise a child.

  • Let me expand my thoughts...
  • Posted by Ira Socol at Michigan State University on November 17, 2006 at 3:40pm EST
  • I neither think this is either/or, in that I do not think that (as TFA advocates often want to put it) that the choice is between TFA and doing nothing. The money invested in TFA could raise teacher salaries in needy school districts, or provide merit grants, or - as I suggested above - fund better alternative certification programs for people from underserved communities, or pay the student loans of those who attend college and do the hard work of becoming trained teachers.

    I also think that we need better trained teachers, not just enthusiastic amateurs. The student population is too diverse, and the needs are too great, and sending TFA "kids" into this is the same as giving them a two-week course in first aid and telling them to go into these communities and act as doctors. Kozol might indeed call that "murder."

    When the people on the TFA Board send their children and grandchildren to schools filled with uncertified teachers, I'll accept that this is a good idea. Otherwise I'll repeat: it is a resume boost for college students who don't need it, and colonialism for America's most in-need communities.

  • Posted by Melinda Manning , Assistant Dean of Students at UNC-Chapel Hill on November 17, 2006 at 4:00pm EST
  • I think we need to employ a variety of approaches to end educational inequality. TFA is one. What TFA has done so successfully is attract the best and the brightest-and most alternative certification programs can't say that. Any many TFA corps members do end up staying in education long term-not all of us leave after our two year committment. I personally stayed for a third and many of my fellow corps members stayed longer as well.
    Don't knock TFA unless you have personally made the sacrifices to teach in an underresourced public school (which I am guessing previous posters have not)

    TFA alum-Mississippi Delta '94

  • In response to the stats
  • Posted by Former TFA on November 17, 2006 at 10:00pm EST
  • I always love reading the comment that TFA only recruits from elite institutions. This comment generally comes from people that know nothing about Teach For America and its recruiting efforts. In fact, 8% of Teach For America's 2006 corps came from Ivy League institutions. The other 92% came from the over 400 colleges and universities where Teach For America's recruitment team of over 100 individuals actively recruits.

    As a former Teach For America corps member, I am proud to say that the school that has produced the most corps members in the history of Teach For America is not, as "Conflicted" would suspect, Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, but in fact is the University of Michigan, one of the "other" schools at which this person suggests TFA recruit. While Ivy League schools certainly produce a wealth of talented individuals, as a graduate of UNC, I can confidently say that hundreds of other public and private institutions across the country produce talented individuals ready to join the fight against educational inequity as well.

  • The Problems
  • Posted by Ira Socol at Michigan State University on November 17, 2006 at 10:00pm EST
  • Dean Manning -

    Some of us have experience with this in other ways. Some of us may have attended "under-resourced schools," others have worked with those leaving those schools systems, still others might be seeing what happens inside those classrooms as we attempt to provide supports for students least well served by TFA participants. There are a multitude of possible legitimate vantage points from which to evaluate an effort of this sort.

    Just to quote a few things said, re: TFA in Chicago...

    The biggest issue is often the way TFA teachers work with the highest needs students: ""A major concern is classroom management skills. A national study found that teachers from the program were more likely to report problems with student disruptions and physical conflicts than their colleagues in the same schools." -Catalyst-Chicago 2004

    But there are other questions: "Barnett Berry, president of the Southeast Center for Teaching Quality in Chapel Hill, N.C., questions [the] approach. “Is this program for children, or for the bright kids to have something to put on their resumes when they apply for law school? Kids need teachers who will stay and build a stable faculty,” Berry says. “This is a problematic cycle: new teachers, under-prepared teachers, high turnover, unstable faculty and inconsistent improvement... We know that any school improvement effort worth its salt is going to take at least five years to take hold, and will take teachers to move the process and programs in the right trajectory.”

    I will also note that the "Stanford Study" showed the biggest problems in TFA classrooms involved literacy for students who were weak in reading. If literacy is the critical thing in schools that I've been told that it is, this seems a massive failure.

    If TFA were "free" - that is, if TFA participants were either volunteers or were part of a federal (German-style) national service program - or if TFA participants were filling the roles of classroom aides and thus multiplying teachers, I would be entirely for the effort. But none of this is true. TFA is a very well funded program, and I believe those funds could be better spent.

  • Posted by Rehenuma , Georgetown Alumni at TFA 03' on November 18, 2006 at 7:15am EST
  • After having experienced both challenges and triumphs in the classroom, I would have to agree with both sides of the debate. TFA's mission is one that is noble, one that I feel very connected to 3 years after my commitment ended, enough to enroll in a Ph.D., at my expense, to understand better how I can help the children I left behind in Washington, D.C. It is not right to say that the people who enter TFA are not in it for the kids, we are there precisely because of them and the injustice that we see. Do we really want to alienate and name-call these young people who obviously are thinking about something other than themselves and who go onto paths in education and policy intending to improve education. The problems faced by TFA teachers are similar to any new teacher who is faced with such severe conditions as Prof. Porterfield mentioned. I think TFA needs help, especially in the area of teacher preparation and support and we shouldn't be stingy to give it just because we have preconceived notions about the intentions of those who are choosing to apply to TFA. That they are choosing to enter the discussion should be encouraged and applauded. In my opinion, there are still too many people are unaware and unconcerned about the educational inequity that exists in our country and the more people who are doing something about it, the better. TFA teacher's want to help and they will be the first to admit that they need help to do it. We should all be in this together because this fight is too important to lose.

  • Controversy
  • Posted by Lisa on November 18, 2006 at 9:35pm EST
  • I am not surprised that Dr. Porterfield's article attracted such a variety of responses, both positive and negative. Since I accepted a teaching position with TFA this past January, I've heard any number of opinions regarding my decision and the program, many of them thinly veiled offers of support in the form of "Well good for you, BUT..." I am now about ten weeks into my position as a 3rd grade bilingual teacher in the Bronx. It has not been easy, but nobody, TFA or otherwise, pretended it would be. Like many TFA corps members, my teaching experience prior to this summer was limited to college tutoring programs. After a summer of teaching and intentive classes was I completely ready and totally confident to set foot into a classroom on my own? No way. But I know people my age who spent four years majoring in education who weren't ready either. The only way to truly learn to teach is by teaching. And when we do get into the classroom, many are correct in saying that TFAers often do not stay in the schools for the long haul. But, as the former CM above said, although many of us do not remain in teaching for more than a few years, we remain committed to change and reform. I do not know if I work in my school, or in a school at all, past my two year committment. But I know that after only two months, I have learned more about this country and our problems than I could have imagined. In the classroom our outside of it, I will never be able to turn away from the issues surrounding the achievment gap.
    Finally, to address the remarks that suggest elitism in TFA selection, I think this is only a reason for the organization to further expand. I graduated from Georgetown, and I have classmates teaching around the country, as Dr. Porterfield said. Among the 600 new corps members in New York, I know many from the Ivy Leage and prestigious private universities around the country. But I know just as many from large and small state schools from coast to coast. I believe that we see more TFA teachers from more presigious schools because those schools push graduates towards TFA as an option. Teach for America is still a relatively knew organization which has seen tremendous growth in the past few years. When I was a freshman in college, I'd never heard of it. Schools with a lot of interest, such as Georgetown, have very active recruitment on campus because there is such high interest. But as the organization grows and word continues to spread
    TFA is not the only answer in closing the achievment gap. But a problem this big needs creative solutions. And the more people that see this problem first hand, whether they stay in the classroom to attempt change first hand, or try to change things from the outside in, the better. I considered myself fairly knowledgable about such issues, yet after only two months I have been blindsided by truths that really can only be understood by experiencing them. Is TFA perfect? No. But it is trying to change an educational gap that is getting out of hand in this country, one classroom at a time.

  • TFA and the Peoples Republic of China
  • Posted by Mr.F.G.Cortes at CSU Northridge alumnus on November 18, 2006 at 9:35pm EST
  • I taught in China in 2004.The three Americans who were hired by a recruiter were:A fellow who had a Master's degree in English,I ,a professional educator(two credentials from the state of California and the BCLAD)plus 25 years of teaching in Los Angeles(mostly So .Central and Compton) and the third " teacher" only had a Bachelor's degree.The first two were paid the same amount and the third a little less.The Chinese call a "teacher" anybody who speaks English and can teach what they tell you.If your name is AngloAmerican they like you even more.With me they were puzzled because I am a Latino/Hispanic/Chicano(your choice) and they still have to understand the US minorities.Never mind that we sent Mr. Martinez,the US Secretary of Commerce to bargain with them.And then there is Ms. Rice(an African American woman,our Secretary of State.)The parallel or comparison is obvious here.I was in Compton when the Teach for America contingent came in.Of course they were preferred( specially the young ladies from back East,and graduates of very prestigious universities.)The rest of us(certified/certificated teachers) were let go with trumped up charges; they preferred to pay less money to an amateur or new teacher rather than retain us.As one of the commentators has said wisely ,she was also dismissed,even though she had many years of experience.My only recourse was the court system and I was awarded a nice sum for retaliation and illegal discrimination.(I sued Compton USA twice.)The state of California came in later to rescue this system under a takeover for many isms(nepotism,racism,agism, )and plain corruption(money disappeared and nobody knew where it went)So My conclusion is that the TFA initiates in the teaching profession should be more prepared in Pedagogy and not thrown to the " wolves"( as somebody said.)We are importing teachers from Spain and Canada.I had to replace a Canadian colleague who was deported.The Spanish contingent-I was told-had a minimum of a Master's(in comparison to the US degree) but the advantage they had was that they were bilingual(needed in ghetto or minority schools nowadays). I heard from minority communities(I lived in Compton for 23 years,my children went to public schools there)that the European educators never liked Compton and preferred to live near the ocean in well to do homes.The children complained that they were looked down(treated as gypsies,they claimed)by the Spaniards.(Most of the pupils came from Mexico and some were here illegally.)So let's think about these new teachers and the populations we will be entrusting them with.I-as the author of " Death at an Early Age"-am substituting in Riverside County,on a part time basis now.God bless America!!!

  • Let's get the facts straight
  • Posted by Grace , current corps member at Georgetown Alum on November 18, 2006 at 10:35pm EST
  • I am a current corps member and will be the first to admit that TFA has its flaws. However, these faults are simply barriers between what TFA is at present and what we wish for it to become; they do not render the organization ineffective as a whole. While reading the many comments on Dr. Porterfield’s article, I noticed that many criticisms of Teach for America stem for large misconceptions of the program. Let me attempt to correct some of them now:

    1) TFA serves communities where there are large teacher shortages. While it may be “obvious that the students in the schools most anxious to have TFA participants truly need experienced, well-trained, long-term-committed teachers who understand educational practice, educational theory, and the communities,” the reality is that these teachers are not only hard to come by, but reluctant (if not unwilling) to teach at our schools. Mr. Socol is correct in pointing out that TFA classrooms struggle with literacy… but confuses the cause-effect relationship in this. TFA sends its corps members to schools and districts that are historically low-performing—they do not suddenly begin to falter because of TFA. Quite the contrary: in many cases, TFA classrooms make much higher learning gains than those of non-TFA (or, as Mr. Socol would say, “qualified”) teachers. While corps members may lack in experience and educational theory, they certainly make up for this in their dedication to students. Which brings me to my second point…

    2) Corps Members are dedicated to their students and are NOT just in this for another blurb on their resumes. Teach For America is a highly selective program (by selective, I do not mean that they only choose from Ivy League schools, but rather that they choose graduates who have demonstrated strong academic achievement and leadership experience within their college years). Those who are selected honestly do not need TFA on their resumes in order to be marketable. The reality is that we forgo more financially lucrative opportunities to do our part in closing the achievement gap. In this quest, we devote all of our time and energy into our students. TFA teachers are often the first to arrive, and last to leave their schools each day. As a specific example, I spend an average of 15 hours MORE on campus per week than the other teachers at my school. This is not time spent “learning the ropes” but rather upon tutoring and devising alternate lessons for students who are struggling behind their peers.

    3) Corps Members are not employed by Teach For America. We are paid directly by our school districts, which are also responsible for hiring and firing us. TFA fundraises in order to finance our training at Institute, as well as to continue to market our message that the achievement gap must be closed.

    4) Teach For America strives for systemic change. While we applaud the efforts of career teachers and dedicate ourselves to achieving significant academic gains during our two-year classroom commitment, Corps Members recognize that many external factors contribute to the achievement gap. Thus, TFA recruits individuals that it believes will take the initiative to enact change from a variety of mediums, in hopes that one day we can change the system as a whole. Some Corps Members become grade-level or department chairs so they can oversee the curriculum and teaching beyond a single classroom. Others begin charter schools. Many choose to pursue advanced degrees in education policy. And yes, there are those who choose to attack the achievement gap via a legal education. But no matter what path they choose, a TFA Corps Member will never forget his/her experience. Our two years (or more) of teaching are undoubtedly the most difficult we have or will experience; you cannot make it through if you are not firmly committed to your students and their potential. It is a commitment that lasts far beyond our two-year contract.

    I have written much and will bring my comment with a close with this final thought: the most valid and pressing criticism of TFA is that some regional offices are so tied up by school districts’ bureaucratic red tape that they cannot provide adequate support to Corps Members. This is precisely what Dr. Porterfield addresses in his article; it is a call upon higher education to support motivated alumnus who need additional support beyond what their Teach For America regional office can provide. Whether this be in the form of preparatory classes prior to graduation, mentor professors, or forums with other university alumni who have chosen to tackle the achievement gap (including those who are non-TFA), Corps Members would greatly benefit from this additional support mechanism. Colleges and universities seek to impart upon their students the endless possibilities of a quality education. It seems only fitting that institutions of higher education should assist their graduates that choose pass on this message to students who are most in need.

  • TFA in the MS Delta
  • Posted by 4th grade teacher on November 19, 2006 at 10:55am EST
  • As a current corps member in the MS Delta, I think it's important to point out the realities of the schools that many corps members work in. While I can't speak for those in urban areas, I know that TFA is definitely not the leading cause of teacher turnover in the Delta. In my school, there are 6 new teachers this year, on a teaching staff of 16. Yes, that is a 38% turnover rate. If not for the 5 TFA corps members, the jobs would be staffed by uncertified permanent substitutes. While I have some issues with TFA, I guarantee that all of the corps members in my school are giving the kids a far better education than they would otherwise be getting.

    A large number of TFA critics have NO IDEA what is going on in some districts in our country. Below is a short list of issues I've seen in my school:

    -Systemic cheating from the principal down to several of the teachers
    -Subject and grade level teachers switched on a whim, with 12 hours notice.
    -Special education teachers not showing up to pull their students out, and not showing up for their inclusion class.
    -Grades and test scores being completely and totally fabricated with no records to back them up.

    Despite all that, my job remains to teach. And I do. In the communities here, that have been so overrun by drugs, AIDS, corruption, and other issues, corps members are often a light of hope. I can't tell you how many times corps members around here are thanked for our efforts by community members and parents. All educational psychology and pedagogical arguments aside, one cannot judge the impact of TFA in a place like the Delta without knowing these communities and children.

  • I do understand
  • Posted by Ira Socol at Michigan State University on November 19, 2006 at 5:10pm EST
  • I do understand that when I challenge the TFA program the bright, committed, and well-intentioned young people in the program will see me as challenging both their world view and their self-image. But I would like, as my final comment here, to "unpack" some of what these TFA participants (both current and former) are actually saying.

    There is an air of personal elite superiority in many of the comments. Though they lack training in pedagogy, and especially in special educational needs, they all point out, they make up for this with "commitment" and "enthusiasm." Are we thus supposed to understand that TFA participants are automatically more committed to their students, and more enthusiastic teachers, than their peers who have just spent four to five years in teacher preparation programs?

    There is also a sense of entitlement - because the participants are typically the elite, they will be able to move on to positions of power and influence (I notice that one "alumnae" here has become a university dean, proving the value to the TFA participants) and thus will be able to "hand down" educational reform to those "less fortunate." But the alternative that I have suggested, and which the TFA board could switch to tomorrow - alternative certification programs for underserved community members, might produce "bottom up" educational reform, with schools empowered by the communities that they serve.

    As for the "I've learned about America" comments, I suppose that I am glad that what Georgetown, the University of Michigan, and other elite schools are apparently not providing their students (a view of the economic diversity of the US) is being provided by TFA. But at Michigan State our teacher education students will have spent at least three semesters (or 75% of the TFA commitment) working in just these kinds of schools, before they go and begin to teach.

    The education system in the US is badly underfunded, horribly unfairly funded, badly organized, badly operated. It is designed to sustain economic divisions, and is, in too many cases, something close to child abuse. Into this TFA has chosen to bring a small band-aid. I am not suggesting that that band-aid is bad, I am just arguing that we need less money and energy poured into band-aids, and more poured into radical surgery.

  • Merely a critic
  • Posted by B.D. on November 20, 2006 at 5:35am EST
  • " .. The education system in the US is badly underfunded, horribly unfairly funded, badly organized, badly operated. It is designed to sustain economic divisions, and is, in too many cases, something close to child abuse .."

    This kind of repetitive critique, epidemic in taxpayer-funded K-12 education, makes me think of T. Roosevelt:

    "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

    "Citizenship in a Republic,"
    Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

    Upset about today's K-12? One person started TFA, a national group.

    What *actions* have you actually taken to address the problem that you have identified?

    Well, here's mine -- charters. The studies of traditional v. charter schools are inconclusive. What I do see, is how crowds form when school choice is offered. So -- charters.

  • Entitlement
  • Posted by Brad on November 20, 2006 at 6:55pm EST
  • I appreciate what Ira has contributed to this post. A healthy dialogue is useful if we are to make the best decisions for our children. What strikes me is the extent to which professionals like Ira feel threatened by the idea that Teach For America could actually work. My theory is that they feel threatened because Teach For America calls into question their value. If a college graduate can go through a five-week training and then go on to produce better student outcomes than their peers, why would anyone go through a university program? My opinion is that we need to start/continue to evaluate educators based upon student outcomes, not degrees conferred. Based upon that criteria alone, Teach For America is a good thing.

    The world would not be a better place without Teach For America. Because of Teach For America we have KIPP, YES College Prep, Jason Kamras (last year's national teacher of the year), hundreds of principals, thousands of teachers, and tens of thousands of advocates for children in low-income communities. With all that is wrong with the world it occurs to me that folks like Ira could probably find better use for their time than to rail against an organization that has produced stunning results in places most people have left behind.

    Ira writes: "There is also a sense of entitlement — because the participants are typically the elite." Though Ira writes this of corps members, in the world of K-12 education, universities and professors are the elite. Folks like Ira believe they hold all the answers despite overwhelming evidence that Teach For America works - this is the true picture of who feels a sense of entitlement.

  • What to do?
  • Posted by Ira Socol at Michigan State University on November 20, 2006 at 6:56pm EST
  • Well, I work in schools almost every day, creating direct solutions for students who are struggling. And I promote Universal Design, and I help teachers trying to innovate. If I had the resources I'd fund "grassroots alternative certification" but I do not have the cash-on-hand of the TFA board members.

    Honestly, I love non-profit Charters, because I favor choices and experimentation. I might even back vouchers if schools accepting them picked their students by lottery, didn't advance religion, hired without discrimination, and provided transportation. Though I firmly disagree with some charters (such as KIPP), I would never insist that there is one solution for all kids.

  • One person, without gub-mint $$$
  • Posted by B.D. on November 21, 2006 at 10:35am EST
  • " .. If I had the resources I’d fund “grassroots alternative certification” but I do not have the cash-on-hand of the TFA board members .."

    One person started TFA. A college student. Without $2.5MM on hand. Just a term paper.

    http://www.teachforamerica.com/about/our_history.htm

    Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu started a global movement. Without $2.5MM on hand. Day one -- client one. Not perfect -- only actual, authentic actions to try to improve the world.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

    To paraphrase Master Yoda (viz. G. Lucas) -- say it cannot be done -- it will not be done.

    http://www.yodajeff.com/multimedia/sounds/episode5/idontbelive.wav

  • Okay, I could be wrong....
  • Posted by Conflicted on November 21, 2006 at 3:45pm EST
  • After reading one of the comments above questioning whether TFA is mainly for graduates of elite universities, I did a cursory search on good old EBSCO host. Certainly I don't want to spout off about something if I'm mistaken! But it seems to be the consensus that TFA recruits from "selective" or "elite" universities. If anyone finds some hard numbers on that, please share.

    Again, I'm in favor of the general idea of Teach For America, I just don't think it should be limited to a particular sector of college graduates.

    Just for the record, I taught in inner-city high schools and job training programs for about 8 years, so I'm not unfamiliar with the schools and students that TFA members work with.

  • Why not Americorps?
  • Posted by B.D. on November 21, 2006 at 8:45pm EST
  • " .. I just don’t think it should be limited to a particular sector of college graduates .."

    Why not --

    http://www.americorps.org/

    Not 'elite' enough? How unfortunate. My nephew served, and it really helped focus his goals.

  • Posted by Grace , Georgetown Alum, Current Corps Member on November 22, 2006 at 4:20am EST
  • I have been baffled by the comments regarding TFA's recruitment of only "elite" schools... From what I remembered, the bulk of my fellow Corps Members in my region graduated from State Universities or small liberal arts schools... so I decided to investigate for myself. Elite is a subjective term, but since Ivies have been referenced several times, I thought I would share with you the following:

    Of the 68 Corps Members in the Class of 2005 in my region, 26 of these come from state universities... only 9 are from Ivies (1 each from U Penn and Columbia, 3 from Cornell, and 4 from Brown).

    I understand that many see Teach for America as an "elite" organization because it has a grueling selection process--I admit that I myself was disappointed that TFA did not admit many of my close friends. However, TFA is selective not for its own bragging rights, but precisely because it understands that making it in the classrooms we serve is extremely difficult... it chooses corps members carefully, using criteria that the organization sees as critical for success in the classroom.

    As the TFA website itself explains, "Teach For America is selective because the challenges corps members face in making a significant impact on their students' achievement are immense, and it is crucial to the success of our mission that we select corps members who have the most potential to succeed in this endeavor. Many corps members tell us that when they got into the classroom and saw first-hand what it took to be successful, they understood why the selection process was so rigorous."

  • State schools/public schools
  • Posted by Julie on November 22, 2006 at 10:00am EST
  • Grace, and all who have commented that the presence within TFA of graduates from "state" schools is evidence that this is a program similar to Americorps or other national service organizations rather than an elite organization:

    Just as you learned through TFA about the huge disparities in public schooling, there is also great variation in the level of "elitism" among state schools so it would be very helpful for you to be a bit more specific when you talk about "state" schools.

    A growing number of "state" schools are now essentially privately funded and are essentially closed to most residents of their states. These school are actively nurturing their status as the "elite" public schools. I'd place the state school mentioned so far in this discussion within that relatively small group of very atypical "state" schools.

    It's pretty easy to find out where TFA recruits. Go to their own website and find the link for "meet us on your campus".

    I don't think that we can seperate the two main components of TFA: One, they recruit "the best and the brightest", which they define in very specific (and narrow) ways. Two, they assume that by virtue of their background, these young people really don't need much formal preparation to teach, esentially because of who these young people are.

    I've been curious about the absence of that second point in this whole discussion. Can anyone explain to me why the "best and the brightest" can't take the year that it would take to actually do formal teacher preparation? (And please don't tell me that TFA teachers are inherently more effective than certified teachers as some have posted here. If that were true, those studies would be prominently displayed on the TFA website, but instead there is only one study there that compares TFA teachers with a control group that contains a disproportionate number of uncertified teachers, and even then, the differences in effectiveness were very minimal).

    The essay that sparked this discussion was essentially saying that many TFA teachers really need extra training and support.

    So this is an honest question: Why not do more substantive teacher education?

    And before some of you start responding to my argument my making assumptions about my personal motives and/or background: I did all of my (extensive) internships in teacher education in low-resourced schools and then started my teaching career (as a certified teacher) in the district that was, at the time, the poorest in the nation.

    More recently, I've been a teacher educator in 3 different states (at very non-elite state schools), and the grads of my program know how to teach poor kids, stay in the classroom long past the point that many other teachers leave, and are known in the region as leaders in their schools and districts. They're in it for the long haul and are making a pretty big difference in the lives of hundreds of kids.

  • Facts about TFA & money
  • Posted by B.D. on November 23, 2006 at 8:45am EST
  • From the current issue (11/29/06) of "Fortune" --

    " .. she moved from parochial school to public school in sixth grade and went on to be valedictorian of her high school. Her interest in the failures of America's public schools began at Princeton, where she helped organize a conference on education reform ..

    " .. Failing to land a job after college (she was turned down by Morgan Stanley, Goldman, McKinsey, Bain, and P&G), she decided to launch the teaching corps herself .."

    Dang .. where is all that 'easy money' TFA got?

  • Teach for America
  • Posted by thoms ehrlich on November 24, 2006 at 12:00pm EST
  • As a long time supporter of Teacher for America I am continually impressed by the quality of those who participate in the program and the quality of the teaching and learning that they provide for their students. I wish that more schools of education would collaborate with Teach for America, rather than complain about its existence. Teach for America is a wonderful expereince for those who participate. Whether they continue in education, as many do, or shift to another career, they will be committed to strengthening K-12 schools in their communities.

  • Posted by Liz on November 25, 2006 at 2:45pm EST
  • I don't have much to add to the discussion here, but wanted to say that there's probably a benefit to the short time TFA teachers spend. When they know that they'll be spending only two years, they can really dedicate themselves completely to teaching, spending extra hours and going the extra mile. See the comment left by one teacher above, who says she spent as much as 15 more hours at school per week than non-TFA teachers, writing lesson plans and devising new course materials. Someone can't spend 30 years giving 110% - we can't demand that every teacher spend hours and hours of personal time trying to figure out how to reach each student. But TFA finds people who are willing and able to give their all for at least a short period.

    It would be great if there were enough people who wanted to dedicate their lives to teaching, but there aren't. And I don't think that situation is going to spontaneously change under the current system, where teachers are underpaid and often disrespected. ("those who can't do, teach" ring a bell?)

    The choice for many of these schools is not between an experienced, dedicated, well-educated teacher and a TFA teacher. The choice is between a TFA teacher and whoever they can find - substitute teachers who aren't familiar with the subject material, or folks who hate teaching but can't find a job doing anything else. I know which one I'd want to teach me, or my children.

  • changing teaching
  • Posted by julia on November 27, 2006 at 10:05am EST
  • Liz wrote:

    "It would be great if there were enough people who wanted to dedicate their lives to teaching, but there aren’t. And I don’t think that situation is going to spontaneously change under the current system, where teachers are underpaid and often disrespected".

    Of course this won't happen simultaneously, and many of us are working on long-term change, but in many ways, programs like TFA complicate this work.

    Just two of the ways that TFA and other similar programs complicate long-term solutions:

    1. The public perception is that teaching is mainly about "enthusiasm" or other soft skills, not about professional knowledge or skills. Programs that place teachers in the classroom with very minimal training (and then flout the success of these teachers with little more than anecdotal evidence) contribute to the overall low respect of teachers by implying that anyone can do the work if they are just enthusiastic enough.

    Liz, your comment about teachers only being able to sustain extensive overtime for 2 could be seen as one example of how little the public knows about the work of teachers.

    Every teacher that I know works at least that much, long into their careers. We begin preparing them for this reality the first day of their program.

    The public generally sees only the direct contact with kids, but all of the professional collaboration, planning, leadership, assessment, and other "behind the scenes" work is pretty much invisible.

    Thus, we have so many postings here that "enthusiasm" and "passion" can substitute for professional preparation.

    Meanwhile, the very study that TFA has on their website of the "success" of their program indicates that while TFA grads may have different philosopies about teaching, they pretty teach in the same ways as other people in their buildings.

    (And this thread began with an essay about how TFA teachers need more preparation and support -- something that the author said should come from Universities, not from TFA itself).

    How does such teaching poorly, but with "enthusiasm" contribute to a long-term change in the public's perceptions of teaching as a profession?

    I can't speak to the conditions in the school of the "I work longer than my colleagues" person. But we really do have to get beyond anecdote when formulating educational policy.

    2. When there are shortages in other fields, salaries are raised to attract more people. Nursing is a case study of this. Instead, in teaching, when there are shortages, we simply bring in people who have not had professional preparation, so the incentives to raise salaries are gone.

    It's not only TFA contributing to this artificial manipulation of market forces in salary/job markets, but they are certainly the most visible and most insistent that they are actually part of the solution.

    Programs like TFA are working directly against the long-term efforts on many fronts to implement long-term solutions to teacher shortages and low salaries. They could be doing their work much differently (and again, I raie my question of why TFA people can't just invest more of their personal time in more professional preparation), but choose not to.

  • Posted by Doug Lynch , Vice Dean at Penn GSE on November 27, 2006 at 3:00pm EST
  • I followed this thread with both concern and amusement. The amusement stems from our willingness within the academy to make anything polemic. The concern stems from the fact that outside the academy we are implicitly trusted (does anyone remember that Chronicle survey from a couple of years back?); consequently, what are merely opinions (and some uninformed) might be misconstrued as fact.

    While my area of research isn’t teacher education (I’m trained as an economist), I am the vice dean of the graduate school of education here at Penn and we have a significant and rewarding partnership with Teach for America that I took the lead on setting up a couple of years ago. I also have done a fair amount of work with the school district of Philadelphia, and teach sections of an economics and education course to the TFA corps members in our program. I therefore have more than a passing familiarity with Teach for America, its corps members and a large urban school district. Hopefully, as part of the senior executive team of our school (I believe we are fairly well regarded as ed schools go), I know something about education as well.

    First, let’s talk about research. Both sides have studies that they can point to; it appears to me that among the two competing ‘best” studies, the Mathematica study had a more rigorous design. That said, there needs to be more research done on its efficacy in the classroom (which is all they care about). I know they welcome research on their work.

    Second, there are a host of studies that broadly define the challenges schools face; chief among them the retention (interestingly not so much the recruitment) of teachers. However, retaining teachers – particularly “talented” ones is a problem that existed and continues to exist. Our country’s most challenged districts fail to attract any quality teachers and it is a revolving door. In Philadelphia it is still a challenge. Indeed here the TFA corps members last longer than non corps members at the same schools.

    Third, it is unclear, despite the eloquent passion of people like Ira, how good a job most ed schools do in preparing their teachers to succeed. Let’s be clear. The vast majority of schools who prepare teachers are not preparing them to go into the sort of environments that MSU prepares them for and for the sorts of environments that corps members agree to enter. That said, both the failure rates on exams such as PRAXIS (there are some institutions that have upwards of 70%), should take one’s breath away. Imagine spending 3 semesters preparing a student to teach high school math and they can’t pass such a low bar. We can argue about the relevancy and accuracy of such tests (legitimately) but it should still give folks pause.

    So, we know that there is a retention issue nationally and a recruitment issue particularly in our most challenged schools. We also know that excepting wonderful places like MSU many ed schools are simply not preparing teachers to help students succeed. There has been a growing indictment of education schools and it would do well for us to listen. On many campuses the schools are marginalized and the research of its faculties are view with suspicion by other colleges. I believe it is also the case that the largest trainer of teachers is the University of Phoenix, which again suggests that ‘traditional’ education schools somehow are not responding to either the demand side or the supply side of the equation. Something is rotten in Amsterdam! At worst, TFA is simply a mirror to these phenomenons. My instinct is that they are actually a part of the solution. It remains to be seen whether ed schools will step up.

    What I experienced when I began advocating the partnership here was that surprisingly (for a bunch of academics) there was a large amount of resistance and criticism; I think it largely stemmed from a lack of understanding of the mission and operations of TFA, I don’t know. What I do know is that the program has been enormously beneficial to Penn.

    I do think that Luis and Dan are right, but I think it is a two-way street. Higher education also can benefit enormously from partnerships with organizations like Teach For America. While we’ve always been known as being an “urban” school of education, my sense is that places like MSU would have viewed us as elitist. We now are the largest provider of teachers to Philadelphia and to all the most challenged schools. The partnership has provided us with an opportunity to explore all sorts of interesting ideas articulated in this thread (such as working with faculty from arts and sciences, imagine that!) and new structures and pedagogical approaches. We are constantly learning from these experiences. We certainly believe that it positions us well in that rather being threatened by an external event; we are sort of viewing it as a Hegelian dialectic. We believe the underlying value – to see kids succeed - are aligned.

    We also hope that Teach For America sees value in our partnership, but by being less ideological and less teleological and more “agnostic” we believe we demonstrated to Teach For America that not all schools of education are inflexible. This common care of our children has allowed us to form a good relationship.

    Now on to a couple of other comments that do not reflect accurately my experience. First, not all corps members come from “elite” institutions (though the enrollment process is very competitive). I do believe that they are wonderful at “talent recruitment” and have been successful in generating huge interest among many excellent students at universities. Rather than bemoaning their ability to inspire, we feel it would be more productive to focus our energies on supporting their ability to inspire. We hope to expand the relationship and offer a sort of “TFA” minor to provide pre-service training to future corps members.

    I think it would be incorrect to assert that TFA encourages corps members to leave after two years. It would be more appropriate to say that they do not require members to commit more than two years. Several points here. In our most challenged schools, two years is no worse than the norm. Second, many corps members do stay after their two year tenure and I believe the majority of corps members stay involved with education. That said, we do see some benefit to having folks in other sectors who are advocates of children and have had some experience in our country’s most challenged schools.

    Finally, as an economist I take issue with some of the statements made about the allocation of resources. The national budget for Teach For America’s (which does not come from district funds) could not make a dent in even one reasonably sized school district’s salary budget. For example, the total budget of TFA would amount to about a ½ percent increase in teacher salary in New York City.

    So a couple of messages. TFA isn’t “the problem” and we feel it seems to do a lot of good; certainly the anecdotal evidence is overwhelming, though more rigorous studies on student performance are warranted. It certainly is helping us and challenging us as an education school and that isn’t a bad thing.

    You should also know that while we think Penn was a “pioneer,” we are not alone as a college. Many other “top” ed schools seem to have watched us benefit from the relationship (and to be clear, as schools we do not lack in either resources or students, so by “benefit” I refer to substantively and strategically benefiting.) So the suggestions made by Dan and Luis are already coming into existence. It is indeed not an “either/or” proposition and corps members are increasingly getting support and ongoing training.