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Legitimation Crisis

Imagine that there is a reactionary and theocratic regime somewhere in the world — one that routinely violates human rights, censors newspapers, harasses labor unionists, and punishes women for “sex outside of marriage” (even when they committed that “crime” by being the victims of rape). Suppose the regime does all this, and more, while enjoying friendly relations with the United States. Not so hard to picture, I’m afraid, realpolitik being what it is. We used to give big fat foreign-aid checks to the Taliban, remember.

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But let’s go further. Let’s imagine that (in spite of everything) there are eloquent and courageous critics of the status quo within the country who fight to get a hearing. They organize, they demonstrate, they publish; they exploit every opportunity available to put forward an alternative vision of their society. The dissidents find that their fellow citizens, especially young people, are interested in what they have to say. They also often find themselves, no surprise, in prison.

Furthermore, let’s picture the ranks of that opposition as filled with eloquent and well-read academics and intellectuals — men and women who turned out, hard questions already formulated, whenever Jurgen Habermas or Antonio Negri showed up to give a lecture.

Courageous, committed, and smart.... What’s not to like? Wouldn’t their peers in the United States want to do everything they could to support the dissidents? Wouldn’t there be solidarity groups, and teach-ins, and militant slogans hailing their cause as urgent and just?

Okay, now suppose that all of the above were true — except for the part about the regime having U.S. support. Suppose, rather, the thugs in charge were full of anti-imperialist sentiment, ready to denounce most of the evil in the world as an American export....

You probably see where this is going.

“In hundreds of conversations I’ve had with Iranian intellectuals, journalists, and human rights activists in recent years, I invariably encounter exasperation,” writes Danny Postel in Reading “Legitimation Crisis” in Tehran: Iran and the Future of Liberalism, a recent addition to the Prickly Paradigm pamphlet series distributed by the University of Chicago Press. “Why, they ask, is the American Left so indifferent to the struggle taking place in Iran? Why can’t the Iranian movement get the attention of so-called progressives and solidarity activists here? Why is it mainly neoconservatives who express interest in the Iranian struggle?”

Postel, a senior editor of the online magazine openDemocracy, sees the Iranian situation as a crucial test of whether soi-disant American “progressives” can think outside the logic that treats solidarity as something one extends only to people being hurt by client-states of the U.S. government.

“Of course we should be steadfast in opposition to any U.S. military intervention in Iran,” he writes; “that’s the easy part. But it’s not the end of the discussion. Iran is, as the Iranian anthropologist Ziba Mir-Hosseini puts it, ‘a state at war with itself.’ Progressives everywhere should take sides in that war and actively support the forces of democracy, feminism, pluralism, human rights, and freedom of expression.”

Postel’s title is a nod to Azar Nafisi’s memoir Reading “Lolita” in Tehran, of course — but also to Habermas’s work of social analysis from the book from the early 1970s, Legitimation Crisis. The role that recent European critical theory has played in Iran is a topic revisited by Postel in the booklet’s four sections — one of them being a reflection on Michel Foucault’s journalistic writings on the Iranian Revolution, and his failure to discuss it after the clerical dictatorship was established. The highlight of the book is an extensive interview with the Iranian philosopher Ramin Jahanbegloo that deserves the widest possible audience. (Fortunately it is also available online.)

Habermas’s concept of “legitimation crisis” refers to periods when, as his translator sums it up, “the ‘organizational principle’ of a society does not permit the resolution of problems that are critical for its continued existence.” That notion may apply to Iran now. The viability of a regime has gone seriously into question when it feels threatened, not just by war clouds on the horizon, but by its own young people’s interest in studying philosophy.

But after reading this short book, I had to wonder if there might be another legitimation crisis under way – one affecting American scholars and activists who see themselves as progressives, who thrill to that oft-repeated demand to “speak truth to power.” An unwillingness to extend support to the Iranian opposition puts into question any claim to internationalism, solidarity against oppression, or defense of intellectual freedom.

I sent Danny Postel a few questions by e-mail. Here’s a transcript of the exchange.

Q: You contend that the American left has shown an unseemly reticence about supporting oppositional movements in Iran: human-rights activists, feminists, journalists critical of the theocracy, etc. You say that there has been a double standard at work — a tendency to express solidarity with movements if, but only if, the regimes they oppose are American client states. Is that something you’ve done yourself, in the past? If so, what made you question that tendency?

A: I came of age politically in large measure through the Central America solidarity movement of the 1980s. As I say in the book, our solidarity with struggles for justice in places like El Salvador was simultaneously a struggle against U.S. policies in the region — namely, its support for death squads and murderous regimes. So there was a confluence between what we were against and what we were for: it was all of a piece.

But in a case like Iran, being against U.S. aggression and military intervention — which we should indeed oppose, and strenuously — doesn’t necessarily tell us how to think about the internal situation in Iran, or logically lead to a position of solidarity with the kinds of oppositional movements you mention. There’s no direct or obvious link, in other words, between what we’re against and what we’re for with respect to Iran. Most leftists are better at thinking about the first half of that equation, and tend to get confused (or sometimes worse) when it comes to the second half.

So yes, my political consciousness was very much formed within that paradigm, the framework of anti-imperialism. In the 1980s I was definitely less than enthusiastic about the idea, for example, of supporting dissident movements in Eastern Europe. I never sympathized with, and indeed was appalled by, the Soviet empire. Somehow, though, the prospect of standing in solidarity with those resisting it from inside just didn’t stir me.

In retrospect I’m self-critical about that. I now think people like Mary Kaldor (from Helsinki Citizens Assembly) and Joanne Landy (of the Campaign for Peace and Democracy) — among others on the Left — were spot on in simultaneously opposing U.S. militarism and supporting democratic dissidents and human rights activists in Eastern Europe. I retroactively stand with them and wish I had been with them at the time.

Realizing that I got it wrong on that front is partly why Iran is important to me. Though I don’t discuss it much in the book, the parallels between Eastern Europe and Iran are manifold — many of the philosophers and political thinkers who inspired Eastern European dissidents loom large for Iranian dissidents today (Arendt, Popper, Berlin). But the more direct reason for my engagement with Iran is personal: two close Iranian friends, over the course of countless conversations and e-mail exchanges, convinced me that something truly remarkable was happening in Iran, both politically and intellectually. The more I read and explored, the more I was hooked. And I’ve been asked to get involved, for example in the Committee for Academic and Intellectual Freedom of the International Society for Iranian Studies, through which I’ve made more friends. Some of my friends in Iran have been jailed. So my involvement in the issue has become very personal.

My book is an attempt to engage the Left in an argument about Iran. We — myself included — have gotten a lot of things wrong. I desperately want us to get Iran right.

Q: So how do you account for the persistence of the blindspot? Is it intellectual laziness? A preference for moral simplicity? At the same time, isn’t the desire to avoid saying anything that could be useful to the neocons at least somewhat understandable?

A: One doesn’t want to generalize: There are different reasons in the cases of different people. I would say that each of the factors you mention plays a part. In some cases it’s one more than the others; in many cases it’s a combination.

Yes, I do think the desire to avoid saying things that could be useful to the neocons is somewhat understandable. But it can also be a cop-out. It was actually more understandable back in 2002-5, when the neocons were endlessly frothing on about their support for democracy and human rights in Iran and it wasn’t as clear to the naked eye how bogus those claims were. Over the last year, however, there’s been a palpable and significant, though largely unnoticed, shift in neocon rhetoric about Iran. They rarely talk about democracy and human rights anymore. They now frame their stance in the terms of Iran as a security threat, with a rotating focus on (depending on the month) Tehran’s nuclear program, its support for Hezbollah, or its role in Iraq. And they’ve ratcheted up the threatening rhetoric, many of them explicitly calling for a military attack.

That puts them at direct odds with the democratic dissidents and human rights activists in Iran, who are unequivocally opposed to any U.S. attack on their country. With the outbreak of the Israel/Hezbollah/Lebanon war in July-August, several neocons came out of the closet, if you will, as supporters of a war on Iran, calling, in the pages of The Weekly Standard and elsewhere, for the bombing to begin. Since that time there’s been virtual silence from the neocons about democracy and human rights in Iran. How can they claim to support either, when democratic dissidents and human rights activists in Iran stand diametrically opposed to them on the question of attacking Iran?

That lie is up. What is now blindingly clear to the naked eye, for anyone who cares to look, is that the neocon agenda vis- -vis Iran has never been about democracy or human rights. What the neocons want in Tehran is a pro-U.S. and pro-Israeli regime; whether it’s a democratic one or not is an entirely secondary matter to them. And Iranian dissidents know this, which is why they want nothing to do with the neocons. Note that the funds the State Department earmarked last year for democracy promotion in Iran met with a resounding thud among dissidents, who see right through the neocons and their agenda.

This is not only a critique of the neocons, though; it’s also a challenge to those on the Left who have bought into the neocons’ Big Lie about being the bosom buddies of Iran’s dissidents. Due to intellectual laziness, a preference for moral simplicity, existential bad faith, or some combination thereof, lots of leftists have opted out of even expressing moral support, let alone standing in active solidarity with, Iranian dissidents, often on the specious grounds that the latter are on the CIA’s payroll or are cozy with the neocons. Utter and complete tripe. Perhaps, as I say, understandable in the past, when it wasn’t as transparent what empty hogwash the neocons’ posturing was. But now that the neocons’ real cards are on the table and their pretense of solidarity with Iranian dissidents has been shattered, the Left can no longer use the neocons as an avoidance mechanism.

Leftists should be arguing not that we might say things that the neocons could put to nefarious ends but, on the contrary, that neocon pronouncements about Iran are fraudulent and toxic. The neocons are hardly in a position to employ anyone’s arguments about human rights and democracy in Iran when they themselves have forfeited that turf. Indeed it’s not the neocons but rather liberals and leftists opposed to attacking Iran who turn out to be on the same page with Iranian dissidents on this Mother of All Issues. It is we who stand in solidarity with Iranian human rights activists and student protesters and dissident intellectuals, not the Bush administration or the American Enterprise Institute.

I intend this point to be both disabusing, on the negative side, and a call to arms, on the negation of the negation side, if you will: Iranian dissidents are actively seeking the support of global civil society for their struggle. Not the support of the Pentagon or the neocons or foreign governments, but of writers, intellectuals, and human rights activists. We ignore their message at both their peril and our own.

Q: Intellectual life in Iran sounds much livelier than one would expect under a theocracy — if also no less precarious. If you could ensure that every American academic knew about at least one or two of the serious debates taking place there, what would they be? If there were a Tehran Review of Books (maybe there is one?) what would be the recent headlines?

A: The Iranian philosopher Ramin Jahanbegloo speaks poignantly to this question in our dialogue. Citing Sartre’s line, “We were never more free than under the German occupation,” Jahanbegloo observes: “By this Sartre understands that each gesture had the weight of a commitment during the Vichy period in France. I always repeat this phrase in relation to Iran. It sounds very paradoxical, but ‘We have never been more free than under the Islamic Republic’. By this I mean that the day Iran is democratic, Iranian intellectuals will put less effort into struggling for the idea of democracy and for liberal values.”

Habermas was struck by this on his visit to Iran in 2002. A young Iranian political scientist told him that, despite the many constraints and problems in Iran there is, as Habermas paraphrased him, “at least a political public realm with passionate debates.” There really is that palpable sense of vitality in Iranian intellectual life, a feeling that debates about democracy and secularism are deeply consequential in a way that they aren’t here. And yes, the element of precariousness looms large. In a dark irony, within weeks of Jahanbegloo making that observation, he was arrested and spent four months behind bars.

Iranian intellectuals are constantly navigating the Islamic Republic’s red lines: magazines and journals are routinely shut down; scholars and journalists are in and out of prison — or worse. But as Jahanbegloo’s Sartrean observation suggests, that precariousness plays a huge role in giving Iranian intellectual life its vibrancy and sense of urgency.

There is, as it happens, something like a Tehran Review of Books — it’s called Jahan-e-ketab, which would translate World of Books. And there’s an intellectual journal called Goft-o-gu (Dialogue). And fancy this: Iran’s leading reformist newspaper, Shargh, had on its staff (until the government banned it in September) a full-time “Theoretical Editor.” Imagine an American newspaper — not a quarterly journal or a monthly or weekly magazine, but a mass-circulation daily newspaper — having a “theoretical” section! That alone speaks volumes about Iranian intellectual culture.

What you find in the pages of Jahan-e-ketab and Goft-o-gu and the late Shargh and a philosophical journal like Kiyan, before it too was banned in 2001, are debates about things like modernity (tajadod in Persian, a huge theme in Iran) and secularism; liberalism and democratic theory; feminism and human rights; universalism and value pluralism. A recent issue of Goft-o-gu, for example, featured an essay on Foucault’s concept of “governmentality,” and another arguing against the tendency to blame outsiders for Iran’s problems (what the historian Ervand Abrahamian once cleverly called “The Paranoid Style in Iranian Politics”). There are also intense discussions going on among religious intellectuals about things like the separation of religion and the state; whether Islam can be synthesized with universal human rights; and the proper place of faith in public life.

If you were to compare the tables of contents of Iran’s leading journals of critical thought with their counterparts in the West, the similarities would be striking, particularly in terms of the thinkers around whom the debates tend to revolve: Kant (of whose writings there have been more translations into Persian than into any other language over the last decade), Nietzsche, Heidegger, Gadamer, Habermas, Arendt, Popper, Isaiah Berlin. Interestingly, these ideas often serve as the nodal points for secular and religious debates alike. Akbar Ganji, one of Iran’s leading dissidents, is currently abroad assembling a book of conversations he’s conducting with the likes of Habermas, Richard Rorty, Alasdair MacIntyre, Martha Nussbaum, Charles Taylor, Ronald Dworkin, Amartya Sen, Robert Bellah, and Nancy Fraser, among others. There you have it.

Q: You note that the oppositional movements in Iran are emphatically not asking for support from the U.S. government — let alone military action. At the same time, it sounds as if some intellectuals and activists there, finding no solidarity among their peers on the left abroad, end up warming somewhat to the American neoconservatives, who at least pay attention to them. How is that contradiction playing itself out?

A: The Iranian journalist Afshin Molavi speaks to this when he observes : “I know far too many Iranian leftists who have gone neo-con as a result of their feeling of abandonment by the American and European left. I wish they had not gone that route.”

But as I said earlier, things have changed on this front. Afshin wrote those lines in June 2005. That was much more the case then than it is now. The neocons have thoroughly squandered any sympathetic vibration they might have enjoyed with Iranian dissidents in the past. Their adoption of a belligerent and bellicose stance toward Iran has severed any pretense of standing in solidarity with progressive forces in Iran. Indeed that bellicosity has served to make the situation for Iranian dissidents and human rights activists dramatically more perilous.

Every threatening pronouncement from Washington strengthens the hand of the most reactionary and repressive forces in Iran and puts the opposition in ever more dire straits. The irony is that Ahmadinejad is actually on the defensive at home, facing growing disenchantment — but, as Ali Ansari and many others have pointed out, the hawks in Washington are tossing him a lifeline. The neocons are Ahmadinejad’s best friends, and are doing massive damage to the cause of democracy and human rights in Iran.

For these reasons, sympathy for the neocons among Iranian dissidents is nil. But that doesn’t translate into an automatic love fest with the western Left. Progressives in the west have to make an effort to connect up with our Iranian counterparts, to enter into a dialogue with them.

Q: Is there anything specific that oppositional intellectuals in Iran need now, in particular, from any Americans who are in solidarity with them?

A: The number one thing we can — and must — do here is to prevent the U.S. government from taking any military action against Iran. That is the Mother of All Issues right now. It’s the sine qua non for any solidarity with dissident intellectuals and human rights activists; the minute the first bomb is dropped the democratic struggle in Iran will be derailed for the foreseeable future, maybe for decades. That message has to be articulated as emphatically as possible over and over until Bush and Cheney leave office.

I’ve long believed a U.S. military attack on Iran to be highly unlikely, and I still think the chances are against it — but the signals emanating from Washington over the last several weeks have me thoroughly worried. Let’s just say we should prepare for the worst and be on offense rather than defense. We can’t wait until it’s too late. There’s a preponderance of arguments against military action on Iran. In fact it’s disturbing that it’s even being discussed. But among the myriad arguments one can offer — the most obvious being the humanitarian and geopolitical catastrophe it would unquestionably produce — one of the most important, it seems to me, is that the democratic struggle in Iran would be dismantled by it.

It’s already in serious peril just by virtue of the threatening storm currently gathering momentum in Washington. This is the Present Danger, if you will: even if the current maneuvering is actually posturing calculated to bulldoze Tehran, which many suspect it to be (and let’s hope they’re right), it’s an extremely hazardous game with potentially cataclysmic consequences and has to be brought to an end immediately.

It would be highly useful for antiwar activists in the west to know what democratic dissidents, human rights activists, women’s rights activists, and liberal intellectuals in Iran have to say on the issue of a US attack on their country. Most antiwar activists in the west would be hard pressed to even name an Iranian dissident, let alone rehearse their arguments. I’d like to see that change.

Antiwar activists and progressive intellectuals in the west should know, and be prepared to say extemporaneously in public debate, what the likes of Shirin Ebadi , Akbar Ganji , Emadeddin Baghi , Abdollah Momeni , and Ramin Jahanbegloo think — most pressingly, what they think of a US military attack on Iran, but also what they think about the human rights situation in Iran, the nature of the Islamic Republic, and what members of global civil society can do to support them. Indeed we should be in conversation with them, and with many other Iranian progressives — writing articles about them, inviting them to speak at our universities, learning as much as we can about them. To use something of an old-fashioned formulation, we should make their struggle ours.

Scott McLemee writes Intellectual Affairs each week. He also blogs at Quick Study.

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This book has gotten minimal coverage in my opinion but I tend to see my view of the legitimation crisis of the Left to be global (rather than simply focused on Iran). The track record of the Left in Iran is abysmal and anyone who would dare look at how so many of them were out-manoeuvered and wiped out by the Ayatollahs in the late Seventies and early Eighties. I also hold it against these groups because they knew about what Islam was about but wouldn’t educate themselves nor their fellow travelers about it when it really mattered and hence allowed for so many people to become un-informed victims. The Workers Communist Party of Iran is one such example. I don’t blame many Persians for being disgusted by the rhetoric of the Left in their nation because they really show little if any) signs of having learned from their previous disasters.

Ansar al-Zindiqi, at 6:05 pm EDT on May 11, 2008

Neocons?

It really is tiresome hearing this term “Neocon” tossed about by the Left in reference (one would assume) to those who would hold a Right wing foreign policy stance. The implication is that all who have such opinions have suddenly stumbled across that thought process. If the entire Right is “Neocons", what happened to those on the Right who have had those views since, shall I ask, the days of Barry Goldwater? To me this is intellectual laziness, brought on by a total contempt for those who hold such attitudes. Until the Left realizes that pigeonholing all of those with whom one disagrees into this catch all moniker, they themselves put become the targets for similar ridicule.

Craig C, political pundit at http://blogresponder.blogspot.com, at 7:06 am EST on February 7, 2007

If you don’t like “Neocon...”

Try “Neo-Straussian!"Does that make you feel better Craig?

But the issue does concern me. Perhaps because the “American left” (there’s a term I’m sick of) is concerned about another Ahmed Chalabi stalking horse? Rendon and Lincoln Group propaganda? Our current administration has a bad habit of spin. Perhaps in the torrents of Neo-Straussian rhetoric,there are still, persistent, voices of dissent in Iran, lost in the Adminstration’s White Noise Program.

If so, if there is legitimate dissent in Iran, these voices should be amplified by academics no matter what political persuasions they hold. We certainly do not discourage dissent at home or abroad. Iranian students I’ve talked with in years past (not within the past four years or so) have been very vocal about their support for change in Iran’s government and less religious control in their lives. They had an admiration for a number of (not all of ) Western values.

I for one would not like to see these voices ignored due to neglect or due to the fear of progressive people being burned again by the Administration that promised WMD’s and Yellowcake and Thrown Roses in Iraq. Or more importantly, the fear that voicing support for dissenting Iranians somehow supports the Neo-Straussian wet dream of an US led Iranian pre-emptive strike invasion.

No. We need to give voice to those who legitimately resist fundamentalist religious thralldom in Iran (and anywhere else, including here) and have the courage to stand up against oppressive government despite overwhelming odds.

John F. DeFelice, Associate Professor of History at University of Maine at Presque Isle, at 8:45 am EST on February 7, 2007

>>We used to give big fat foreign-aid checks to the Taliban, remember.

I’m no academic or researcher, but I would humbly suggest that it probably is not a good idea to use Robert Scheer as a primary source for information. The $43 million that Scheer is referring to was humanitarian aid that was distributed through NGO’s, not through the Taliban.

Also, we have given alot of “big fat foreign-aid checks” to the North Koreans, the Palestinian Authority, and other unsavory regimes over the years. Does that mean we have “friendly relations” with them? Should such assistance be cut off?

>>If so, if there is legitimate dissent in Iran, these voices should be amplified by academics no matter what political persuasions they hold.

John, what is “legitimate dissent"? Is that “dissent” that is otherwise not friendly towards the US (or at least the Bush administration)?

Al, at 9:30 am EST on February 7, 2007

Danny Postel has been very helpful in promoting a book we published 15 months ago, called We Are Iran: The Persian Blogs. We got zero traction with the progressive radio and websites, but we did get calls from Fox News, Voice of America, and the American Enterprise Institute. It was deeply depressing for an avowedly progressive publisher like ourselves to find us in this situation...

Richard Nash, Soft Skull Press, at 9:35 am EST on February 7, 2007

Overgeneralizing

Danny Postel makes good sense in calling for left support for Iranian dissidents while firmly rejecting any US military action. He severely overgeneralizes, however, in saying that the U.S. left has failed to do so. The Campaign for Peace and Democracy (whose Joanne Landy Postel says was “spot on” in defending East European dissidents while opposing US militarism during the Cold War) has been circulating a statement titled “IRAN: NEITHER U.S. AGGRESSION NOR THEOCRATIC REPRESSION". Among its many prominent left signatories are Michael Albert, Stanley Aronowitz, Rosalyn Baxandall, Jeremy Brecher, Noam Chomsky, Ariel Dorfman, Martin Duberman, Samuel Farber, Mansour Farhang, Barbara Garson, Thomas Harrison, Howie Hawkins, Adam Hochschild, Nancy Holmstrom, Doug Ireland, Robin D. G. Kelley, Jesse Lemisch, John Leonard, Rabbi Michael Lerner, Nelson Lichtenstein, Marvin & Betty Mandell, David McReynolds, Frances Fox Piven, Nancy Romer, Matthew Rothschild, Jennifer Scarlott, Sydney Schanberg, Meredith Tax, Cora Weiss, Peter Weiss, Cornel West, Julia Wrigley, and Howard Zinn.

For the full list of over 1,000 signatories, or to sign on, go to http://home.igc.org/~jlandy/cpd/antiwar/1005/stmt.html.

Steve Shalom, at 9:45 am EST on February 7, 2007

“Legitimate Dissent”

I resent the implication that I an anti- American. But for my definition, legitimate dissent is simply real dissent, genuine dissent, unsullied by the Neo-Straussian propaganda machine, detached from the interests of big oil and global corporations and the Cheney Administration’s agenda: just the mere, genuine cry for freedom from religious tyranny in Iran. Any questions? I for one tire of being suspicious of anything I hear and having to vet it carefully. But what six years ago I would have considered paranoia, today is simply common sense. As the song goes, “We won’t be fooled again!”

John F. DeFelice, at 10:31 am EST on February 7, 2007

Many thanks to Steve Shalom for mentioning the Campaign for Peace and Democracy statement “IRAN: NEITHER U.S. AGGRESSION NOR THEOCRATIC REPRESSION-A call for a new, democratic U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.” The statement was circulated in mid-2006 and has many prominent signers from the U.S. left and progressive community. With the Bush Administration’s mounting threats against Iran, the statement remains (unfortunately) very timely. To show your simultaneous support of democratic liberties in Iran and opposition to U.S. militarism in Iran and throughout the Middle East, please go to www.cpdweb.org and read our statement and add your name. Joanne Landy Co-DirectorCampaign for Peace and Democracy

Joanne Landy, Co-Director at Campaign for Peace and Democracy, at 11:05 am EST on February 7, 2007

Postel reminds me of Marc Cooper, who keeps referring to his activist past to justify his assaults on Hugo Chavez or whichever head of state is on the top of the State Department’s enemy list that day. Anybody who spends some time looking at how Open Democracy is funded will realize that you are dealing with millionaires intervening in Net politics in the same way that Soros intervenes in electoral politics. Frankly, one of the reasons I am sure that the left tends to shy away from the cause of Iranian dissidents is that their case is always being made on websites like Harry’s Place and Open Democracy. I myself argued on behalf of the Tehran bus strike but felt embarrassed in some ways to be on the same side of the divide as a paid propagandist like Danny Postel.

Louis Proyect, at 11:05 am EST on February 7, 2007

>>I resent the implication that I an anti- American.

I did not imply that you were. If it makes you feel better thinking that I did, then good for you. Your feigned indignation, however, is silly.

>>But for my definition, legitimate dissent is simply real dissent, genuine dissent, unsullied by the Neo-Straussian propaganda machine, detached from the interests of big oil and global corporations and the Cheney Administration’s agenda.

Thanks for clearing that up.

>>I for one tire of being suspicious of anything I hear and having to vet it carefully.

I would think that an academic, of all people, would be one that is suspicious of what they hear and vets information carefully, but I guess I could be wrong.

Al, at 2:55 pm EST on February 7, 2007

Yes and No

First of all, it is naive to assume that the people of Iran (meaning the citizens, those who face censorship, theocratic domination, and isolation from free knowledge) understand the nuances of contingent support. They would like to know that, should they peaceably revolt and foment democracy that they have an ally. To at once declare support for them and not support whomever is running the government sends a mixed message. The GWBA has fostered a sense of tyranny and provided fodder for Iranian leaders to quell revolt. So has the acceptance of alternative lifestyles, support for the pro-choice movement, and apathy for religion by those on the other side of the isle.

What if future US elections bring republicans to power once again? Should the Iranian citizens be concerned that any actions the progressives have taken, or plan to take would suddenly be undone? It denies logic to assume that Iranians (intellectual, or not) don’t understand that it is Americans who make up America. I challenge someone to find an average Iran sitting in his house in Tehran saying, “If only the progressives in the US would help, things would be much better here.”

Iranian dissidents need America’s support. It’s unfair to ask them to continue their oppression because we only want to help them on our terms! What do expect them to think given the current state of affairs? It’s not like the Iraq war is helping Iraquis, but to the same degree we had 8 years to peaceably aid Iraquis and did NOTHING!

NVUS, at 5:55 pm EST on February 7, 2007

I’ve found that since Sept 11th, the ‘progressive Left’ has become less progressive and admittedly quite unnervingly so. Maybe I never noticed it before when I was a dyed in the wool Liberal.

These days, the ‘progressive Left’ finds allies in groups that oppose the United States irrespective of what those groups stand for. I’ve seen ‘peace’ marchers alongside Jew-hating holocaust-deniers and finding solidarity with those who support gender apartheid and would deny fundamental human rights to ‘nonbelievers’ were they in power (demonstrated by such bastions of human rights such as Iran and Saudi Arabia).

These ‘leftist’ groups then have the arrogance to claim that the United States is a -Nazi- regime? Do words have meaning anymore? The Left has descended into utter madness — so focused on their hatred of George Bush, they willingly join with goose-stepping Islamic fascists, ’socialist’ dictators and tinfoil-hat nutcases whose ideas should make any real ‘liberal-minded’ or ‘rights-minded’ person shudder.

I’m sad to say that I no longer identify with liberalism. Where does that leave me? Conservatives have some good economic ideas, I can get behind that — but I’m pro choice as well! I could vote for Giuliani, I suppose.

What I won’t do, however, is stand with my former comrades on the Left. I stand for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for myself, my kids and all people in a society that embraces diversity of thought as well as diversity of culture in one whole.

They now stand for suicide bombs, murder, anti-semitism, racist arrogance, crushing dissent, control of speech and cultural suicide.

For me, the choice is clear. I have always stood behind my colleagues in Iran and any dissident liberal minded voice in the Middle East. I may not always agree with them; but they are my fellow travelers. The Left and the Islamic Fascists are not.

Ethan Deneault, Assistant Professor, at 1:50 pm EST on February 8, 2007

no surprise

I think Danny Postel should be commended for openly admitting that “in the 1980s I was definitely less than enthusiastic about the idea, for example, of supporting dissident movements in Eastern Europe. I never sympathized with, and indeed was appalled by, the Soviet empire. Somehow, though, the prospect of standing in solidarity with those resisting it from inside just didn’t stir me.” As one of those dissidents from Eastern Europe, I can appreciate his honesty. At the same time, I am not at all surprised that the same frame of mind that helped Western leftists rationalize and/or gleefuly neglect the sufferings of “unfashionable” victims endures, and today manifests itself as palpable reluctance to discuss the plight of intellecualt in Iran, of oppositionists in Cuba, or homosexuals in Palestine. After all, the Left has always stood for “the cause,” not for identifiable people or individuals. Hence the defence of identifiable people or individuals is strictly contingnent upon whether or not such defence helps “the cause.” If protests are fully congruent with the premises of “the cause,” then they are energetic and relentless. If not – then such protests are either non-existent, or muted, tentative and sotto voce.

In my view, such discriminatory attitudes on the part of the Left are rational: it is simply a fact that throughout the 1990s most of the former anti-communist dissidents espoused values and expressed views that were at odds with the reigning orthodoxy in Western intellectual and academic circles. Three values in particular proved to be rather popular among East Europen intellectuals but also inpalatable for the Left. First, the notion of individual rights – rather appealing to those who suffering political oppresion, but also long since “deconstructed” and exposed as yet another scam for perpetuating the hegemonic status of while males. Second, the notion of the Rule of Law – rather appealing to those who have been arrested and/or exiled by administrative fiar, but unacceptable to those who still consider “popular uprisings” and “grass-root militance” the only legitimate form of social change; for radical revolutionaries, the Rule of Law is an anathema. Finally, the notion of value pluralism – namely, that there are in fact radically different value systems in the contemporary world, and a legitimate political order would be one that can accommodate as many of them as possible. Clearly, such a position would be rejcted by those who construe the notion of “progress” as a continuing affirmation of a single set of values and the concomitant “discarding” of others.

Hence it would be reasonable to assume that if and when Iranians and Cubans are allowed to “join the conversation,” many of them might end up supporting opinions that, from the point of view of the Left, would appear to be naïve, pro-status quo, “liberal,” “mainstream” or downright “reactionary.”

So let me say it again: in an very important sense, “Legitimation Crisis” reports no news. It simply provides further proof that willfully self-imposed moral blindess is part what might be called “left identity.”

east european, at 2:51 pm EST on February 8, 2007

it’s a minefield though, isn’t it?

The trouble is, Scott, that in order to make the analogy complete, you need not just a courageous and vocal opposition entirely deserving of our support, but also a large network of “pro-democracy” expat groups dominated by ex-royalists and chancers of the Ahmed Chalabi type, and for it to be very, very difficult to tell the difference between the two. A lot of the reason why the organised Left is wary of getting heavily into Iranian politics is that it is so bloody complicated and so very easy to pick a wrong ‘un (for what it’s worth I stuck my coin down on the Worker-Communist Party (http://commentisfree.guardian.co....006/08/the_third_camp_manifesto.html ) but not without a lot of trepidation. Nick Cohen and Christopher Hitchens thought that they were doing exactly what Postel is talking about when they got heavily involved with the Iraqi National Congress.

Daniel Davies, at 9:00 am EST on February 13, 2007

Ironically, Postel is the person who opened Open Democracy’s coverage on Iran with infamous neo-cons backed Mohsen Sazgara:http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/article-3-128-2413.jsp

Sazgara wrotes:No democracy can be made out of Iran’s constitutional law. Iran’s problems are essential to the nature of the regime. And so it must be changed. This is the lesson of “reform”.

David, at 1:21 pm EST on February 14, 2007

Iran and Legitimation crisis

Thank you for the article. It is well written and informative. I wonder. In the 70’s there was a very active Iranian student left in the U.S, and particularly at U.S. universities. Many of these folks returned to Iran and were crushed- others went to Europe. How did this previously existing Iranian left on U.S. campuses effect the current lack of support for opposition groups in Iran?It may be that a “what side were you on in 1979 ” generation crisis added to the legitimization crisis.

Duane Campbell, Professor at Cal.State Univ-Sacramento, at 4:20 am EST on February 15, 2007

Daniel Davies, very good point you made.

As an Iranian I should say that unfortunately, Postel, dues to his lack of knowledge of the Persian language and the fact that he has never visited Iran, or maybe other reasons we don’t know, is actually making the same mistake as Hitchens etc.

He is supporting the same people and same ideas that a lot of neoconservative Americans have been rooting for.

What Akbar Ganji, Abdollah Momeni, Shirin Ebadi, Mohsen Sazgara, Ali Afshari, Akbar Atri and all these new ‘dissidents’ prescribe, i.e regime change via civil-disobedience, is exactly what neoconservatives follow in a two-track policy towards iran: a) non-violent regime change b)limited or full-scale military assault.

This is certainly more difficult for the typical American activists such as Postel to see.

But these activists have ties with neocon institutions such as The Washington Institute for Near East Policy, American Enterprise Institute, or others such as Boroumand Foundation and Iran Human Rights Documentation Center that are officially funded by the State Department to promote ‘human rights and democracy’ in Iran.

Read in Washington Post how one of these ‘human rights’ groups hold regime change workshops for Iranian dissidents:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-...icle/2006/03/13/AR2006031301761.html

The two-track policy that the neocons follow in Iran uses different resources and methods, but the ultimate goal is toppling a democratic and sovereign state called Islamic Republic.

I think we should ask Mr. Postel where he thinks the legitimacy of the American’s willing to overthrow another democratic government comes from in the first place.

Behdad, at 6:06 pm EST on February 16, 2007

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