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June 23 Outside the Circle
Before becoming a DC think tank person, I worked for the Indiana Senate, advising the chair of the State Budget Committee. Much of this job consisted of listening to people ask my boss for money. The state universities were frequent supplicants, so we regularly traveled with other legislators and staffers to various flagship and regional campuses, where we would all pile into a university shuttle bus, drive to a vacant lot, disembark, and listen to an explanation of how, for the bargain price of $20 million, this expanse of grass and rubble could become a biotechnology business incubator, space-age student center, or other vital structure that would surely pay for itself 10 times over in the long run.
On one such visit, we stood on a sidewalk looking at two different higher education institutions and the space between them. One was a branch campus of the Indiana University system; the other was part of the state’s two-year career and vocational system. They were literally across the street from one another. Local civic leaders wanted to build a physical connection between them, a “front door” to a unified higher education complex where students could seamlessly enter and then travel to whichever courses suited them best.
It seemed like a sensible idea, and the area was represented by one of the most powerful legislators in the state. Then one of his staffers raised her hand and asked one of those questions that’s really not a question at all: “It won’t just be the building that’s seamless, right? If student take courses there (pointing to the two-year college) then the credits will automatically be accepted there (pointing to the IU campus)?”
Representatives of the two institutions looked at each uncomfortably. “Well,” they said, “of course — of course — that’s our goal, but it’s actually not quite that simple....”
As it turns out, the institutions were in the middle of a long-standing and sometimes bitter dispute about credit transfer. The two-year system wanted its courses to be transferable to the four-year system, but the four-year system was resisting. This is not unusual. In fact, credit transfer is a gigantic problem in American higher education. Nearly half of all undergraduates start at community colleges, and most of them express some desire to earn a four-year degree. While estimates vary, it’s likely that at least 25 percent of all students transfer during their undergraduate careers, and the majority earn credits at multiple institutions. But the new college frequently accepts only some of the credits earned at the old college, forcing students to re-take and re-pay for classes they’ve already passed.
This is partly a structural problem. The United States is an unusually large nation populated by a restless citizenry prone to moving from place to place. Our higher education system is also unusually diverse and decentralized, with thousands of public and private institutions retaining the academic freedom to decide what kind of course credits they’ll accept from whom. As a result, the basic logistic challenges of managing student transfer are considerable. It’s hard for a given college to evaluate credits from a huge number of courses, departments, and institutions nationwide.
The result — a chaotic, inefficient transfer “system” that’s hardly a system at all — makes life very difficult for students who attend multiple institutions, as more and more do. What’s worse, many students don’t find out how many courses will be accepted for credit until after they transfer, so they can’t take ease of transfer into account when they decide where to go. A recent report on transfer from the Government Accountability Office noted that “Officials at one institution told us that they provide [a report of accepted transfer credits] within 1 year of the student’s matriculation and encourage students to take upper-level general education courses in the interim until the report is received.” Sociologist Sara Goldrick-Rab of the University of Wisconsin at Madison, meanwhile, has found that students from lower-status socio-economic backgrounds are more likely than their well-off peers to transfer in ways that reduce their odds of earning a degree.
Fortunately, we live in the information age and this kind of problem isn’t as hard to solve as it once was. In fact, there’s a whole company called AcademyOne, launched in 2006, that stands ready to sell software to colleges or even entire states to ease the process of managing these relationships. It allows students to find out ahead of time what credits will be accepted, and gives institutions tools to evaluate courses at other institutions proactively, instead of waiting until a student with a transcript arrives at their door. Efforts like the Pennsylvania Transfer and Articulation Center are already underway.
But the big barriers to improving transfer don’t lie with logistics. At its core, this is an incentive problem. The same institutional diversity and autonomy that gives American higher education strength sometimes put institutional interests at odds with student and public interests. This is just such a case. It’s often not in a college’s best interests to make it too easy for students to transfer out, since it costs them enrollment and revenue. And once colleges accept transfer students, it’s not in their best interests to accept all of the credits, since that reduces the amount of education the students will have to buy. The fact that four-year colleges tend to make money on lower-division courses and lose money on upper-division courses (where class size is typically smaller and instruction is less likely to be provided by junior professors or teaching assistants) also comes into play. In the case of those two institutions across the street from one another, the four-year university was quite aware of the fact that they charged much more per credit hour for the same introductory courses as their neighbor nearby.
In other words, the only parties that are really harmed by the transfer mess are students and taxpayers, a common dynamic when it comes to obvious higher education policy problems that go perpetually unsolved. As a result, for millions of students college can be longer, more expensive, and more difficult than it needs to be.
The key to fixing this is strong public leadership with the students’ best interests in mind. When California State University Chancellor Charlie Reed was running the Florida public university system, he helped pushed through reforms that standardized course numbering across the state’s two- and four-year university systems, helping ensure that every community college graduate transferring to a four-year university can bring their full 60 credits along with them. Florida students can enter higher education through the two-year system with confidence that transfer issues won’t stand in their way, while colleges in both systems spend less time and effort hammering out inter-institutional articulation agreements and evaluating individual transcripts. But even after a decade in California, Reed hasn’t been able to enact similar reforms in the Golden State. Work is being done, but it’s far from finished. Does anyone believe that Florida students aren’t better off — or California students worse?
The scale and negative impact of the transfer problem will only grow in the future. Students are increasingly mobile and information technology is rapidly expanding the number of potential higher education providers. Movements like the Open Course initiative presage a future where students might assemble degrees from scores of different educators, some of which might not even be “colleges” in the traditional sense of the word.
The flawed U.S. transfer non-system has also persisted because, historically, it was still better than what students experienced elsewhere. But that, too, is changing. As the Institute for Higher Education’s Clifford Adelman found in his recent report on the Bologna Process, universities in Europe are poised to leapfrog the United States in ease of transfer, based on a process of deep, concurrent analysis of academic goals, degree qualifications and credit systems that goes far beyond what a harried registrar’s office in a U.S. institution could hope to accomplish one transcript at a time.
To its credit, Indiana has done more than most states to tackle this issue, which is particularly important given its recent move to expand the state’s two-year system. In the meantime, those two neighbor institutions eventually got their construction money and built the shared building. I’m told it looks very nice. And they’ve been working over the years to establish transfer agreements in subjects like education and accounting.
But they’re still not finished. According to the four-year university’s Web site, “a selected number of courses” are transferable from the other taxpayer-financed institution located approximately 100 yards away. When I called the registrar’s office to ask about this, I was told that the list of transferable courses on the Web site was out of date. “We accept more,” she said, “but we have to evaluate that on a case-by-case basis.”
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If Carey thinks that “every [Florida]community college graduate transferring to a four-year university can bring their full 60 credits along with them” and that “Florida students can enter higher education through the two-year system with confidence that transfer issues won’t stand in their way,” then he needs to take some time off from his perch to attend some of the all-day Articulation Coordinating Committee meetings in Tallahassee.
ACC meets regularly to grapple with seamless transfer, and one of the problems it faces is ensuring educational quality — in dual enrollment, and PSAV (postsecondary adult vocational) courses that the state wants to transfer to the 4 yr level.
Underlying these challenges, in my opinion, is the questionable role of regional accrediting in assuring the public that high standards are being met, standards which CCs and certainly dual enrollment do not always meet.
Concerns about quality play a role in transfer problems, and Carey would do well to pay closer attention to them to bridge what could be called the “accountability gap” in higher ed.
Glen S. McGhee, Dir., at Florida Higher Education Accountability Project, at 9:45 am EDT on June 23, 2008
Where is the data to back up all the anecdotes and witnessing going on in this article? This is the kind of hot air that feeds people on the Hill and others with their own, private sector agendas who don’t know or don’t want to show what is actually going on in higher ed. This is self-serving spin.
Juan During, 20 Years in Transfer Services, at 10:00 am EDT on June 23, 2008
The amount of diversity in programs, colleges, students and faculty is enormous and simply not formulated to allow for neutral transfer of specific courses also imbued with similar diverse characteristics.
A pluot however, applealing and tasty, will generally not substitute for a comparable piece of orange, grape or anything else.
Sadly, it probably does not matter to any measurable or detectable extent other than the initial cost.
Florida’s desire to learn anywhere and permit a transfer, even if no credit was earned, is nice but presents other concerns. Study business or law enforcement at a vo-tech school for $1 an hour and then “convert” the experience based on equivalency to a college for free, academic credit is not always smooth or equivalent even in the broadest sense of the word.
Are cats and dogs equivalent as house pets.Of course! Yes! Perhaps. Maybe. No! All of the above...Does it really matter?
Bob S., at 10:00 am EDT on June 23, 2008
In Europe, it’s not a case of 2-year and 4-year institutions, rather one of short-cycle (Associate’s) and first-cycle (Bachelor’s) degrees. The Bologna Process action line places the short-cycle degree within the first-cycle, something we don’t do in the US, and thus enhancing transfer potential. Further, in the case of the most visible short-cycle degrees in Europe (Foundation degrees in the UK, the DUT in France, and the Associate’s now being offered on a trial basis in 57 hogescholen programs in the Netherlands) the same institution that offers the Bachelor’s degree is either delivering the short-cycle directly (UK and Netherlands) or validating the program being delivered by another institution (UK) or is basically an umbrella for the unit offering the short-cycle (each IUT in France has been traditionally allied with a university in this manner).
Will these models spread to other countries among the 46 Bologna Process participants? Bologna has been a work in progress for a decade and has a decade to go, so only time will tell (both Portugal and Ireland should be watched in this context), and the pan-European credit system advanced under Bologna (very different from ours) will have a great deal to do with it.
The closest we come in the US is the “Alliance” model in the Maryland system. I suggest you take a look at “The Bologna Club: What U.S. Higher Education Can Learn from a Decade of European Reconstruction” for further details. Go towww.ihep.org/Research/GlobalPerformance.cfm
Cliff Adelman, Senior Associate at Institute for Higher Education Policy, at 10:25 am EDT on June 23, 2008
There are definitely some interesting comments here, both in the View piece and in the discussion after. No, Florida’s system is not perfect, and trying to give credit for coursework from non-accredited schools or life experiences is always problematic. On the other hand, stating that CCs often do not measure up to university standards is also rather self-serving. Many CC courses are taught to higher standards and students learn better in them, simply because of class size and instructor dedication to teaching. I know many people who have commented that they learned much more in their “intro” courses at our local CC than they did in their 3-400 level courses at our flagship research university. Many professors simply are not comfortable teaching anything under masters students because they’ve become so specialized in their own research that they forget how to teach more basic skills. I personally have had both excellent teaching and really lousy teaching at both universities and CCs—but most of my truly lousy instructors were at the research universities, even when I was an MA or doc student! Let’s quit dumping on CCs in general and look at where the real problems are—class size, student preparation, instructor ability to teach intro courses, and so on. Florida still has a good idea with the statewide course numbering system, and the online student information site (FACTS.org) is excellent!
Elizabeth, at 10:40 am EDT on June 23, 2008
The fatal flaw in Carey’s argument — and those of like-minded state legislatures — is the assertion that transferring students lose credits because “...the new college frequently accepts only some of the credits earned at the old college, forcing students to re-take and re-pay for classes they’ve already passed.” Four year schools DO NOT make students re-take courses that they have already taken.
Credits are refused for transfer because (1) course content is different; (2) the student’s grade in the course is too low to be accepted for transfer (generally Ds); or (3) the course is not truly a college-level course acceptable for the degree being pursued at the four-year school —- for example, a paralegal courses when a liberal arts degree is being sought. To give students transfer credit under thesecircumstances is to cheat them out of the education they are seeking and to set them up for failure in upper-level courses.
Academic departments, not comptrollers, make decisions about what courses are equivalent and therefore accepted for transfer. Faculty is much more concerned with insuring that transfer students are not retaking the same course to earn an easy A than with getting fungible tuition dollars out of a particular student when there are many more applicants waiting to be admitted.
Of course, everyone is benefited by systems that allow students to find out ahead of time what credits will be accepted. New Jersey has had such a system in place for many years: New Jersey Transfer http://www.njtransfer.org/ It is sadly underused by students and advisors at two-year schools.
Susan Lawrence, at 11:25 am EDT on June 23, 2008
The way this concern is handled by the state of Washington is an agreement whereby any earned Associate degree transfers as having fulfilled undergrad general education/undergrad expectations. Earn an AA or AS from any of the state’s community or technical colleges (not always the case with an AAS, which is professional/technical and generally job focused) and enter the four-year school as a junior, though you may have to take some first or second year courses related to your major. Enter without a degree, and courses earning less than a 2.0, and some others as have been indicated by other commentators, are not likely to transfer. We make students aware of this, though whether that sticks in their minds or not is hard to say.
bradley bleck, instructor at Spokane Falls CC, at 1:40 pm EDT on June 23, 2008
Any research considered on Texas’ 42 Hourcommon core curriculum? Initiated in the year 2000, that process might add some illumination to this discussion.
Dr. F. Gump, at 2:45 pm EDT on June 23, 2008
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Also a problem in Europe
Credit transfer isn’t as problematised in Europe as it is in the US because students haven’t transferred between institutions, and still less between 2-year and 4-year institutions, as much as they have in the US. However, student transfer between 2-year and 4-year institutions is increasing in the UK and may increase in continental Europe.
The transfer of credit is very difficult in the UK and close to impossible in continental Europe. It is extremely optimistic if not naive to believe that the Bologna process will improve credit transfer any time soon. As depressing as this may seem to transfer advocates, the transfer practices of some US states are far in advance of practices in other jurisdictions.
Gavin Moodie, Principal Policy Adviser at Griffith University, Australia, at 8:05 am EDT on June 23, 2008