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Teaching Composition: A Reconsideration

July 22, 2008

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When I tell new acquaintances that I am an English professor, they generally react two ways. First, they express dismay that they now have to watch what they say (as if I were grading their performance). Second, and more to the point, many of them ask an inevitable question: “How well
do your students write?” That people outside of academia recognize a crisis of communication within speaks to one central fact: The average college student is remarkably challenged by the age-old practice of putting ideas down on paper.

Very few people would argue with the truism that success within the university and beyond is predicated upon students’ achieving a certain level of proficiency as writers. Thus, if the inability to communicate is begrudgingly taken as a given at the beginning of the freshman year, it becomes -- in the general lament -- a tragedy by graduation. Who, then, is to blame?

English departments are a common target. I was stunned when, as a work/study graduate student in the department office, I answered the phone during lunch only to be berated by a physics professor who wanted to know what the hell we were doing over there. Things had apparently become so critical that even the good people in the sciences were beginning to notice. Leaving aside for a moment the unexamined presumption that only English departments should be responsible for writing -- as if we alone knew how to impart the wisdom of subject-verb-object -- I do in fact want to
take his complaint seriously.

What are we doing over here?

I have no interest in the now clichéd grumblings over English departments and their esoteric if not onanistic engagement in high-octane literary theory. I will only say that there is merit to the criticism. On the whole, however, such censure really isn’t going anywhere; these exercises in cryptic marginalia are simply what we do, much in the same way that hyenas eat carrion. Both have their place, and whether one is more useful than the other is a matter for disputation.

My questions are more practical, if not more overtly political: Why is the teaching of writing so readily given over to the novitiate? If writing is that important as a university and life skill, why do we assign its teaching to graduate students and part-time instructors? Where are the associate and full professors of English, for it is exceedingly difficult to find them in writing classrooms?

I am not at all suggesting that teaching assistants and part-timers are incompetent or careless; perhaps no one in the English department works harder, save for the staff. And there’s little doubt that the composition classroom is the best training for the part-time grunt work that often follows the Ph.D. in English. Even today -- after more than 20 years of empty promises -- the dirty little secret
that doesn’t often make it to graduate orientation is that a large number of doctors of philosophy will be stuck in part-time employment fixing thesis statements and correcting schizophrenic syntax.

It is a familiar enough story, but useful to rehash. Graduate students and adjuncts are cheap labor. They fill untold numbers of sections and receive miniscule pay and laughable benefits, if any. But graduate students receive tuition remission, you say. True enough, yet this is an exchange administrations can live with. If universities couldn’t afford to forgo the tuition, they wouldn’t. In
return, the university places 20, 25, 30 freshmen in a classroom with a part-time instructor where it otherwise would have to place a comparatively expensive professor who enjoys a modest salary and other benefits. From an administrative point of view it’s a system that works.

More insidious, however, than the short-term economic benefits to the university is the way in which so many English departments both enjoy and perpetuate this status quo, so much so that I do not think it an exaggeration to say that the teaching of writing appears secondary to the other, more lofty work of professing literature. Since when did writing become anathema? If writing is so important that
virtually every student at nearly every college and university must take at least one composition course (and usually two), why aren’t more professors of English teaching it?

The current system allows us to maintain our own esteemed position as professors of literature and theory. Writing pedagogy is work for the masses -- graduate students, adjuncts, and those oddballs in rhetoric and comp. I find it strange that in some universities composition instruction has been completely removed from English departments into its own unit, and the English . . . er . . . literature professors like it just fine. They don’t have to grade those awful papers. They don’t have to undermine their status or misuse their expertise with something as mundane as composition. Life is good when you can spend it with Gilbert and Gubar rather than Elbow and Belanoff. The argument can be made that a separate department assures that those who teach composition are there because they care about what they’re doing. But it creates two separate and unequal entities: one for the rock stars and one for the roadies. And I would like to see some empirical evidence that the folks in rhetoric and comp -- whom I respect -- have more success than the rest of us.

Why does every graduate instructor in composition clamor to get one of the coveted spots teaching literature? Watching my fellow graduate students at Indiana University yearning to escape from the writing classroom was like witnessing an academic version of white flight to the suburbs. In retrospect, there was something slightly unseemly about the feeling of relief when we were finally anointed to teach a literature class. I should know; I felt the same way. When I was granted my own literature class I knew I was finally becoming a professor. The composition classroom was for amateurs.

Literature and literary theory are essential, difficult, and rarefied (or so we have been led to believe), thus experienced professors will teach it. They will lead the best and the brightest students, often English majors who are beginning to understand how the game is played. Evidently, a class that covers, say, The New Southern Literature is a better use of an instructor’s time than a discussion of the finer points of the subjunctive or how to approach a rewrite. I’m not making an argument about
Southern literature or literary theory. However, the general consensus seems to be that ideas are important but imparting the skills to communicate those ideas is a task best reserved for the worker bees.

Teaching writing -- and doing it well -- is a taxing business. It means thinking about course objectives and how to achieve them in a very practical way. It often means our learning how to impart skills that may come naturally to people whose inclinations and talents lie elsewhere. As a graduate student, my initial experiences in the composition classroom were marked by confusion and fear. I had a general inclination about what a good paper looked like -- having written a few -- but I also had almost no idea how I did it. My process had been to write and rewrite until it felt about right. How and what I was supposed to impart to others out of my intuitive sense of what worked and what didn’t escaped me completely. I began to think that I was there because no one else wanted the job.

So I did what every other beginning teacher does: I fell back on discussions of other writers’ essays and assigned the occasional in-class writing exercise. Classes were comprised of my asking questions about the readings and praying that the students would have something to say. The only problem, of course, is that my approach was literary interpretive rather than vocational: We talked about what the authors were saying and almost nowhere about how they were saying it. We almost never discussed the methods and means by which a writer might achieve a finished piece of work.
Neither did we consider artistry. And as a graduate instructor, I never touched grammar.

I didn’t know what I was doing then; I continue to learn today. As graduate instructors we didn’t confess it to each other, but I suspect that most of my classmates that first year were equally befuddled. I am merely suggesting that if we acknowledge and value writing, if we still believe that composition has a place in the university (and this can certainly be a question for debate) -- as it does in most -- then those who profess the centrality of the written word might wish to carry some of the actual load.

The English professor rarely teaches freshman writing courses because it is beneath her to have to worry over catchy introductions, pithy thesis statements, and thoughtful conclusions. Certainly she cannot be bothered by grammar and form, except briefly and in passing. There is a workman-like quality to the teaching of writing; it is as close to blue-collar as you can get in the liberal arts
classroom. In my first tenure-track job at a community college I taught a five and five load, four of which were composition classes (far too many, to be sure). I felt like Lucy in the candy factory. We’re English professors; why work up a sweat?

That’s an honest perspective. Writing classes are difficult to teach because to do it well you have to assign a lot of …well…writing. Which means you have to grade the papers. Which means late nights and early mornings with some of the most tedious assaults to the intellect. And then you do it all over again, usually week after week.

But it has to be done, and so why not by people with a history of teaching who are not fazed by the prospect of a room full of students who probably don’t want to be there and who suspect they can’t write? In an ideal world, many of these students would be taught by writers themselves who practice their craft. (Leaving aside the snippy but not altogether untrue argument that as prose stylists go, we
English professors might not be the best models. It would appear that we are the only game in town.) Why can’t we all be like Stanley Fish? I was almost floored when, skimming through Fish’s New York Times blog, I found a post in which he explained the challenges and delights that he, after 40 years, finds in teaching writing. Stanley Fish, author of 10 books, Distinguished University Professor and professor of law at Florida International University, teaches writing? There’s hope.

At the very least, full professors of English belong in the composition classroom because they might learn a thing or two about writing themselves. Moreover, the benefits to those students who will not see a professor their first year could be intangible. They would understand that we in the university take writing seriously enough that someone with gravitas and experience is teaching it. They would benefit from close contact with instructors who are not looking to move up or into the more ethereal realm of literature, those who believe that strong, clear writing is as essential as oxygen.

There could be other structural and institutional benefits. Might we see smaller Ph.D. programs because there is less need for composition instructors and because the professors are more fully engaged with undergraduate education? Might we have fewer doctorates awarded? A meaningful loosening of the job market? Imagine a world where positions teaching literature and composition are actually available for the professionals we graduate from our programs.

William Major is associate professor of English at Hillyer College of the University of Hartford.

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Comments on Teaching Composition: A Reconsideration

  • Posted by adjunct instructor on July 22, 2008 at 7:35am EDT
  • I used to teach writing in a developmental style, starting with maybe a sentence and working up to paragraphs, then papers. The professors decided the students should write whole papers from the first week. But they really can't (okay, they can write papers, but they need so much revision that they are nearly hopeless and so hard to grade while trying to maintain any positive attitude)--this did not worry the professors who thought the course was now more rigorous. Their idea pleased them. I wish they actually had to put their own idea into practice by doing it themselves.

  • An old story
  • Posted by JP Craig , Lecturer on July 22, 2008 at 8:30am EDT
  • I've seen this article in many previous incarnations. It would be great if all faculty in all departments would teach one freshman composition class each year. It would be great for the students, the faculty, and the programs. But it's not going to happen. In my experience, there's a large minority of faculty who scorn the very idea, are outraged that they might be called upon to teach entering students. There's a still larger contingent of faculty who say they appreciate the difficulties of the comp class, who really, really feel for those who teach it. These sympathizers, of course, don't request a comp class of their very own.

    Quite simply: all indicators point to a widely-held belief that teaching composition is a menial task. The attitudes of administration, the attitudes of most faculty, the job market, and the paychecks all suggest this is the case. Sure, there are composition faculties. But the majority of the work is done by the equivalent of intellectual migrant workers, and most departments seem to be quite satisfied with that arrangement.

  • It's too late when students get to college
  • Posted by John on July 22, 2008 at 8:40am EDT
  • While it's true that much of the writing by college students is dreadful, the work of learning how to put salient thoughts in a concise and effective manner must start well before high school. Waiting to correct a kid's poor writing skills is days after the horse has left the barn. he time, effort, and money must be put in very early - so let's go back to the begining and have kids diagram sentances. It certainly couldn't hurt.

  • schizophrenic syntax and angry science profs
  • Posted by Steven S. Clark, PhD at UW on July 22, 2008 at 9:05am EDT
  • As a science prof, I too am terribly frustrated by the lack of communication skills of grad students. These are supposed to be the brightest of the bright, but what good is that if you lack the skills to let other people know that?

    I understand the unfortunate lack of motivation by "literature" profs to teach a course that is not what drives their passion. Perhaps the root of the whole problem is that students coming to college are woefully unprepared in basic writing skills. If they were more fluent in English, perhaps teaching comp would be more agreeable for the literati.

    The best courses I took in college, the one that has been most useful and that, in retrospect, I probably enjoyed the most, were my composition classes.

    Thank you Mr Gallehr for opening a whole world for me.

    Steven S. Clark, PhD
    http://stevensclark.typepad.com/bioscience_biz/

  • Hmmm...?
  • Posted by Edward Winslow , A tired "refired" business professor on July 22, 2008 at 9:10am EDT
  • Perhaps a better question to ask is: "Who Reads?"

  • teaching composition: a reconsideration
  • Posted by Carol Reeves , Professor at Butler University on July 22, 2008 at 9:20am EDT
  • Professor Major's assessment of English Departments farming out their writing courses to novitiates. However, at smaller colleges without Ph.D. programs, the writing is taught by part timers who, no matter how skilled, are driving from campus to campus just to make ends meet.

    At smaller, private institutions, upper level administrators choose to part timers over more expensive full time positions . My colleagues and I in the English Department have taught and continue to teach composition, but we do so at the risk of leaving gaps in our upper level curriculum.

    Carol Reeves
    Butler University.

  • Posted by Gypsy Boots , John's Got It on July 22, 2008 at 9:45am EDT
  • John, you've got it. The job of learning to write must begin well before students enter college. Two or three semesters is not enough time to make up for seven or eight years of deficiency.

    College students now commonly admit without shame--often without a sense of why it should be an issue--that they have never read a novel. No comp professor, no matter how talented, can compensate for the failures of our school systems--or our culture. Senior professors know this, which is why they avoid like the plague the taste of failure and frustration that comes with comp classes.

    --12-year-veteran, now decamped

  • Posted by adjunct instructor on July 22, 2008 at 9:45am EDT
  • If composition is valued as indispensable to an undergraduate education, then it should not be assigned to those who are classified as part-time employees and compensated accordingly. There is nothing so labor intensive as grading writing assignments. Because most adjuncts have one or more part-time jobs in addition to their teaching loads, they have to "streamline" their courses. Often this means fewer writing assignments. Universities save money, but it is at the expense of the students, who are not receiving the quality of education to which their tuition dollars should entitle them.

  • It takes a village
  • Posted by A communication prof , Asst. Prof on July 22, 2008 at 10:20am EDT
  • Several years ago, I stopped complaining about my student's writing and decided that if I wanted to solve the problem that I needed to be a part of the solution. Even though I teach in what would normally be called the speech comm side of communication, I believe every professor regardless of discipline, should engage our students in the practice of writing.

    I require them to purchase Hacker's pocket handbook which covers grammer, manuscript style, etc. We do first drafts of research papers, where I spend time correcting grammar and syntax issues. Before you scream you don't have time--look, I am a tenure track prof at a major university. I am required to pump out at least two articles every year and do committee work. I realized that I AM A TEACHER. I may teach courses in my field, but I am first and foremost an educator and it may seem elementary, but we educate.

    Disciplinarity has been good, but in this changing world we must remember the first things...first. We are teachers so let's stop whining about it and help solve it.

  • Clap! Clap! Clap!
  • Posted by tmcdonal on July 22, 2008 at 10:30am EDT
  • It's amazing that students come to college lacking basic writing skills...and research paper skills. I recall my senior high school English class on the research paper. Text--Turabian. Process: develop a thesis, research sources and note quotes & source on index cards, outline, first draft. Turn in all with the final paper in a manilla envelope.

    Curriculums need overhauling and perhaps there should be more communication between high school writing teachers. Writing is an art and a craft--and one can't teach literature unless one understands writing.

    I've worked at one of those schools that got an angry letter from a local employer to which he attached a student's grossly mispelled and badly written resume (name blacked out). And this student paid how much for an education?

    Until we begin setting standards and sticking by them--flunking students who don't measure up (which must be supported by administrators), writing will become skill of the elite.

  • Exactly what the oligarchs want!
  • Posted by dundermifflin on July 22, 2008 at 11:20am EDT
  • "That people outside of academia recognize a crisis of communication within speaks to one central fact: The average college student is remarkably challenged by the age-old practice of putting ideas down on paper."

    The people do recognize this fact. The oligarchs don't care.

  • Strunk & White
  • Posted by Stewart Trickett on July 22, 2008 at 11:50am EDT
  • Onanistic? Marginalia? Disputation? Novitiate?

    If you've lost your Strunk and White, I'll galdy lend you mine. Page 76, you'll note, says "Avoid fancy words".

  • Freshman Comp
  • Posted by Full Prof on July 22, 2008 at 11:50am EDT
  • I don't think that having full-time faculty teaching composition is the answer to weak writing from college students. In the community college where I teach, most of the faculty don't write--not even conference presentations, let alone articles or monographs. Only a couple of us ever earned a living outside of the academy by writing. We set lovely goals, like empowering students and teaching them to appreciate the power of words, often forgetting that what they really need is the ability to write plain, unambiguous sentences in orderly paragraphs that connect with each other and with a thesis.
    Having faculty from other disciplines teach composition sections is an excellent idea. I also wish that English faculty had to spend substantial time every few years writing in government or the private sector to learn what kinds of writing our graduates will have to do.

  • Composition?
  • Posted by not an Eng prof on July 22, 2008 at 11:50am EDT
  • At my small college, we are told by the English faculty that everyone should teach writing - but that 'mechanics' are not important. Instead, it is all about writing as a tool of thought, becoming comfortable with oneself as a writer, etc. Comp classes are derided as useless and, even, destructive of nascent writing skills.

    This makes sense if and only if students come to college with the basic skills and 'mechanical' knowledge. However, they do not. So, the English faculty have passed the buck to the rest of us, and we pass the buck to ... future employers and grad programs. Unless we really can make pre-college writing programs effective, it is up to us at the college level to do the remedial work. But as long as the regular faculty do not want to/or do not know how to do the remedial work, the buck will move on.

  • Comp and Literature
  • Posted by Joe Safdie on July 22, 2008 at 11:50am EDT
  • I value Professor Major's comments here. My first full-time job was at a technical college where there were no literature classes in the curriculum, so I soon realized that if I wanted to keep things interesting for myself, I would have to investigate composition theory. To my relative surprise as a writer and lit major, I found the battles between so-called "expressivists" (for shorthand, think Elbow) and "social constructivists" (for shorthand, think Bartholomae) quite stimulating, sending me back to classic theorists like Mina Shaugnessy, certainly worth any English professor's time.

    My current job is at a more comprehensive community college, and my schedule next semester is unprecedented: Brit Lit, American Lit, World Lit, and Creative Non-Fiction. One would assume that I'd hit the jackpot, not having to teach any comp classes. But I'll never now lose my fascination with what actually works in the classroom, and indeed, see learning outcomes and assessment activities differently than most of my colleagues, as ways to motivate students to develop their own authority as writers. And finally, Coleridge's Biographica Literaria isn't that far removed from teaching the thesis statement: check it out.

  • Teaching Composition: A Reconsideration.”
  • Posted by parme giuntini , director, art history at otis college of art and design on July 22, 2008 at 11:55am EDT
  • As an art historian teaching in the Liberal Studies department of a small art and design college, I have nothing but the utmost respect--bordering on awe occasionally--for the composition faculty, full-time and adjunct. Perhaps having more full time faculty teaching composition courses would make a difference; I'll leave that decision to the disciplinary gods. My concern is with the implementation and reinforcement of good writing and, from my perspective, that means that all the faculty (including the irate Physics prof) need to insist that it matters. Too many instructors gloss over poor writing as long as they like the content. "I'm not an English teacher,it's not my job to teach grammar or organization or development or"...take your pick is a fairly typical comment from my faculty.
    Writing is a craft; it's not learned in one semester regardless of who is teaching the class. Rather than berate the English faculty for failing, it would behoove us all reinforce the importance of good writing: write standards into our syllabi, stress that in our writing assignments, comment critically and grade accordingly. Making students accountable for good writing beyond that comp class is the responsibility for all of us, not just the English faculty.

  • Posted by Academic Public Relations Writer at Big State U. on July 22, 2008 at 12:25pm EDT
  • I was lucky enough to attend a small liberal arts school where our classes were 99% taught by professors with PhDs or the equivalent terminal degree in their field. There were a few adjuncts teaching on MAs in foreign language, but they were really the only exceptions. I came from a rural high school where the quality of writing instruction could only be described using a series of derogatory expletives. My college took composition out of the dominion of the English department and required all humanities division professors to teach a humanities and composition two-course sequence. I had a Classics professor the first semester, and an English professor the next. The rest of our freshman sequence was designed to integrate writing into every class, including math and the sciences. The result was that by graduation most of us turned out to be better writers than average, and capable of utilizing our rhetorical skills in a wide variety of disciplines. I think that teaching writing has to be an institutional goal, not just a task handed over to the English dept. It worked for me, because I now get paid to write on behalf of the university where I am employed.

  • How We Pay Ourselves
  • Posted by Charlie Kane on July 22, 2008 at 12:25pm EDT
  • In a just society we'd have balanced job complexes. We'd all have at least two different kinds of jobs, a socially less desirable though no less important one (or two), and a socially more desirable, creative, empowering job. The less desirable would be paid more than the more desirable.

    Until such a condition evolves, English departments can at least pay professors more per composition course than for literature or literary theory courses.

    The same might be true of other departments where Writing across the Curriculum is concerned. Pay ourselves more for writing intensive courses (since they are more labor intensive to teach). Pay ourselves far less for the supposedly "more fun" courses to teach, balancing the incentives.

    See www.parecon.org for more description of such an alternative economic system.

  • Posted by peg on July 22, 2008 at 12:30pm EDT
  • None of these comments address the student. I spent quite a few years earlier in my career teaching freshman composition because I enjoyed the challenge and believe it is important. (The grading IS a load, however.) Even after I moved to a non-teaching job in higher ed, I taught a couple of sections UNPAID. What struck me then (mid-80s)was that the students themselves did not take writing seriously. "When am I ever going to use this?" "All you have to do to get a good grade is please the instructor." So, having a fairly broad acquaintance among faculty from other disciplines, I brought some of them to class to talk about the importance of writing in their fields (history, biology, psychology, social work). And you know what? The students ARGUED with them! "Why should you, history prof, care how I write?" I heard the complaints from faculty in other disciplines ("what are you doing over there in the English department? My students can't write.") My response was sometimes, "What are you doing to reinforce the idea that writing is important?" I could say with some certainty that most of my students left my class able to write an essay developing and supporting a thesis in some organized fashion and generally correct in mechanical terms. But if they did no writing for the next several semesters, a) their skills might atrophy and b) they get an even stronger message that writing is not important.

    I had an insight recently that if I were to teach another class of freshman composition, one of my assignments would be for each student to identify someone IN a job like the one he or she is seeking, interview that person, and learn how much/what kind/what standard of writing is required on the job. Maybe THAT would be a wake-up call. But English/composition instructors--whether full professors or academic migrant workers--cannot do it alone.

  • By college it may be too late.
  • Posted by viejita del oeste , tutoring supervisor on July 22, 2008 at 12:50pm EDT
  • Prof. Reeves: You mean "novices," que no? Novitiate (more often, "the novitiate") is normally a singular noun signifying a group of people.

    No offense, but the best composition teachers I've seen are working at the high school level. (In that world it is a high status position.) Unfortunately there are not enough of them for every student to graduate with the preparation they provide.

    Too much of the teaching of writing is taken up by forcing students to master the typical five-paragraph academic format. Writing teachers -- here I mean the typical kind, not the exceptional ones I mentioned above -- start this in the fourth grade, and spend more time and energy inculcating this form than in giving students the specific vocabulary, grammar and rhetorical tools to write what they mean.

    Much of this may be an issue for education schools.

    I think we'd all agree that the ability to write what they mean is what is lacking in too many college-bound students. Colleges need to be more willing to assign students to no-credit remedial writing courses when necessary, the way they do with those who are deficient in math.

    By the way, English departments aren't wrong. Once students know the basics, reading good writing really is the best way to become a better writer. It's true from the elementary school students I work with, all the way on up.

  • Posted by viejita del oeste , tutoring supervisor on July 22, 2008 at 12:50pm EDT
  • Peg, I guarantee you that unless the job is in academia they are not using the five-paragraph "Here is what I will say. (1 graf) Here I am saying it. (3 grafs) here is what I just said. (1 graf)" format.

  • Assumptions and Misrepresentations
  • Posted by Gerald Nelms , Associate Professor at Southern Illinois University Carbondale on July 22, 2008 at 1:20pm EDT
  • Anyone thinking of writing this kind of commentary on writing instruction really ought to take a little time and study the scholarship on writing and writing instruction (that is, the discipline of Rhetoric and Composition) before making these kinds of uninformed comments.

    The following are wrong assumptions and misrepresentations that I find in this article:
    --That all English professors are educadted in the same disciplines when, in fact, many (most?) are not educated in Rhetoric and Composition, which is a discipline dedicated to, among other things, how to teach writing. What many people outside of English don't understand is that English consists of multiple disciplines. Many English professors may have had assistantships through which they gained a small amount of training and a few years experience, and those might provide sufficient knowledge to teach composition regularly under the guidance of a considerably more knowledgeable Writing Program Administrator (WPA), but whether many tenured English faculty are willing to submit to such guidance is the question.
    --That teaching composition is “grunt work” that no real English scholar would want to do, when, in fact, there is a whole discipline of Rhetoric and Composition, whose history dates from ancient Greece and Rome, dedicated to the study and teaching of rhetorical communication--and whose membership is committed to teaching writing, not eager to teach literature courses.
    --That Composition has no theoretical basis but is simply how-to knowledge, when, in fact, Rhetoric and Composition has a long history of theoretical discussion. In fact, this history goes back to debates over rhetoric’s status in ancient Greek society and education between the Sophists, Plato, and Aristotle. There is also much contemporary theoretical discussion, too. A study of Rhetoric and Composition scholarship reveals applications of theorists like Foucault, Bakhtin, Kristeva, and others; applications of learning theories such social cognitive theory; applications of linguistic theory; applications of theories of cultural studies; and so on.
    --That all English professors, simply because they are interested in language use and texts, have adequate knowledge and training to teach writing, when, in fact, literature professors tend to be trained in interpretive reading, which is not the same thing as rhetorical writing. Literary scholars who are highly competent in their study of literature do not necessarily make good teachers of writing.
    --That the “noviate” (graduate student or part-time instructor, although some of each group may well not be novice at writing instruction) is less trained in teaching rhetorical writing than the tenured English professor, when, in fact, many graduate students today go through more rigorous training than many tenured English professors have gone through. Also, we have evidence that faculty and graduate students alike, more interested in literature than in teaching writing, sometimes turn writing courses into literary interpretation and writing about literature courses. Graduate students are easier, then, to guide in their pedagogies--that is, to keep on track teaching writing, not literature--than tenured faculty members.
    --That grammar is one of the most important features of good writing, when, in fact, 50 years at least of scholarship tell us that what matters most in all communication is its rhetorical effectiveness, of which absolutely “correct” grammar is only a minor part--a part certainly (notably in establishing one's ethos) but not the most important part.
    --That the problem with teaching writing in a way that is relevant to writing across the curriculum is content-based (what is taught in the composition course, say) when, in fact, recent research suggests that the problem is actually transfer-based. Writing program assessments tell us that students are learning what they are being taught in composition courses. Recent research, however, suggests that students are not applying what they've learning in composition courses to writing situations beyond the composition course. Just because some students’ writing is not measuring up to some professors’ standards does not mean that students are not learning what is taught in composition courses. It could be that students simply are not able to recognize transfer "cues" to apply what they know. Research on knowledge transfer tells us that such transfer is NOT automatic, no matter how much we think it should be and wish it were. It could also be that some faculty in other disciplines are judging student writing based on criteria that is dramatically different from that used in composition instruction. A typical example is when a faculty member assumes that all it takes to produce good writing is to produce absolutely correct grammar. Linguists have taught us for decades now that Standard English is, in fact, fluid and unstable, that language is constantly changing. And we have a century of research that tells us that formal grammar instruction is inadequate in improving writing quality. More important is the writer’s ability to clearly define her or his purpose; to "read" her or his audience; to develop a certain level of expertise in the subject matter of the text; and to develop an appropriate ethos for the discourse community which the writer is addressing.
    --That undergraduates actually are unable to adequately communicate in writing, and that we need to blame someone for it, when in fact, we have research strongly suggesting that students today are actually better writers than they were in past decades.

  • Who will pay?
  • Posted by Martin , Professor on July 22, 2008 at 1:40pm EDT
  • At my university about five years ago, a dean managed to have one of the two required composition courses removed and to have the sections of the remaining course taught entirely by adjuncts and graduate students. The idea was to take the savings and use it for other programs outside the English Department.

    That is to say, for those who control the money, writing is not important enough to be funded. If tenured and tenure-track faculty in English departments were to teach all the writing courses and also make sure that English majors and other interested students got their courses in literature, film, cultural studies, etc., the university would have to hire dozens of new tenure line faculty. And if faculty in other disciplines were asked to teach writing, then they would have to be trained just as the English PhD students have to be trained and additional faculty in their disciplines would also have to be hired.

    I was a director of composition and an English department chair, and frankly, I think it's a great idea to have faculty with long-term commitments to the university teach this important course, but the administration and the legislature that funds this state university will never take that route.

  • hmm
  • Posted by Melissa on July 22, 2008 at 1:40pm EDT
  • Why do grad students flee teaching comp, hoping to get a spot in other classes? Because with other classes, you might get a chance to work on your own work. Comp classes are not about hating the class, but the sheer amount of grading...friends teaching comp are never NOT grading something.
    I agree with the above poster...instead of paper after paper filled with dangling modifiers, subject/verb disagreements, and just plain BAD writing, let's start small. We all agree that for most students high school doesn't work. Remedial comp. Make the placement tests actually mean something. And then let you instructors instruct, not grade forever and a day.

  • Reconsidering the reconsideration
  • Posted by Dennis Baron at University of Illinois on July 22, 2008 at 2:00pm EDT
  • William Major conflates two issues in his critique of the teaching of writing: the practice of assigning writing classes to non-specialists (faculty and graduate student) and adjuncts; and the notion that good writing is grammatically correct writing.

    Correcting the first problem, by recognizing the discipline of writing studies, as Gerald Nelms suggests, is an important first step, but one that few institutions will take -- after all, it costs money to hire and deploy experts in the scholarship of writing and its pedagogy.

    Correcting the second problem, the misconception that good writing IS good grammar, is one that can't be solved by money. In a sense, that would make it easier to implement -- but unfortunately, our notions of what makes writing effective are so bound up with a sense of linguistic right and wrong, that this turns out to be a much more difficult hurdle to overcome.

    The sci/tech profs at my institution used to complain to me, "Why aren't you people in English doing your job?" A familiar story. When I'd ask them what was wrong with their students' writing, they'd point to spelling and punctuation, or subject-verb issues, or slang.

    Then I'd say, "OK, let's fix all these problems: run the spell check, straighten out the agreement, use appropriate technical terms." But to their surprise, they still found the writing deficient.

    The surface errors hid the deeper problem that what students really were failing to master were the rhetorical conventions of the discipline. That's not something that can be fixed by a computer, or a series of grammar drills, or full professor of literature or film.

    Instead, it requires a kind of disciplinary apprenticeship. Learning to write effectively within a field takes time -- While some majors learn to talk the talk of their discipline quickly, others don't really master the conventions until they become, not even grad students, but working professionals who have the motivation of a bonus, a job, a grant, a promotion, or the recognition of colleagues.

    Complicating things even further is the fact thatno one has ever discovered the secret formula for effective written communication. No Strunk and White, no handbook, no set of grammatical rules, no spell checker, is going to replace practice, feedback, reflection, and more practice.

    Complicating things even further than that (or is it farther?), just because a writer does something right is no guarantee that it will happen again. And just because some people think a piece of writing is effective doesn't mean that others will agree.

    To illustrate both of these last points we need only consider the fate of Harry Potter VII. Q.E.D.

  • Listen to Peg...
  • Posted by former writing prof on July 22, 2008 at 2:15pm EDT
  • Common undergraduate refrain:

    "You can't grade me on grammar! This isn't an English class!"

    Many students fail to carry what they learn in one class on to another.

    At some point [soon] they need to start learning this...or fail for not doing so.

    This anti-intellectualism extends beyond writing. But writing [a skill!] is an excellent barometer of this trend among the kinder.

  • Posted by Tenure Year Prof , Thank you, Gerald Nelms! on July 22, 2008 at 3:00pm EDT
  • You hit the many nails on their many heads. I am tired of reading such reductive and negative essays on this subject, and I wish the author had done even a smidgen of research into the field. Does Inside Higher Ed pay by the word? Did anyone fact check this, or bother to insist upon a little basic research into the discipline of composition and rhetoric?

    I teach literature and I teach writing, although my opportunities to teach writing are growing fewer and farther between as I progress through the academic ranks. The answer is not to put full professors into the writing classroom, or even to pay more for writing instruction (although our grad students and instructors certainly deserve better pay).

    I think my students are reading and writing more than they did in the past, thanks to the internet and texting. I also think they are generally underprepared for the expectations of college-level writing, thanks possibly to NCLB. I've had students confess in literature classes that they've never read an entire novel before arriving in my classroom, nor have they ever written anything resembling a research paper. These are not the kinds of tasks (apparently?) that help high school students score well on standardized tests. I have bright, well-meaning, energetic students who come to my classroom with few skills. I do what I can to frontload those skills in every literature class I teach, and to emphasize the many resources available to them at my university to improve their writing (the composition classes, the tutors, the free writing center, various seminars and student workshop groups, etc.).

    I'm on a committee devoted to restructuring our Writing Across the Curriculum requirement this year, which in and of itself is a good sign that my university is taking this issue seriously.

  • Educators need to raise the bar
  • Posted by Steven D. Aird , Former Associate Professor of Biology at Norfolk State University on July 22, 2008 at 3:00pm EDT
  • Thank you, William Major, for this insightful piece! You are right on target, and I am certain that many of your colleagues in English will not be happy with your candid assessment.

    The duty to teach fundamental composition skills should rest with the primary and secondary schools, but many public school systems have completely abdicated their responsibilities. Customers are kept happy by awarding them unearned good grades. Labels that once signified academic accomplishment (honors, gifted) are doled out liberally, rendering them meaningless. These keep aggressive parents off the necks of self-serving administrators, who direct their teachers to “pass all students” (reported by a Portsmouth, VA elementary school teacher).

    We all know the result. In my classes at Norfolk State University, where a colleague and I were recently denied tenure for not passing enough students, I commonly encountered students with third and fourth grade language skills. They could not understand what they heard or read, and expressing an idea in their own words was utterly beyond them. As one young woman, wallowing in self-pity, explained, “I be studyin. I juz not be unduhstandin.”

    In my biology classes for non-science majors, I usually assigned a term paper. Grading them was brutal. Each 5-6 page paper required 30-60 minutes to correct, in even the most cursory fashion. Beyond content, I also evaluated organization, grammar, and spelling. Plagiarism was easy to detect. Any well written passage was automatically suspect, and had to be painstakingly checked. One young woman, who could scarcely compose a proper sentence, expressed disbelief at all the red ink on her paper. “But Dr. Aird, I don’t see how my writing can be that bad. I get A’s and B’s on all my English papers.” No doubt she was telling the truth. Lying to the students about their deficiencies may damn the students, but it makes life so much easier for the professor.

    The now widespread practice of passing students who have achieved no demonstrable content mastery is shameful! I am appalled by the number of colleagues who prostitute themselves to corrupt administrators for a little release time, a larger office, a better teaching assignment, or for tenure and promotion? Have we collectively become so selfish that we are incapable of putting the needs of our students and our country first?

    We need to raise the bar, or we soon will have done to ourselves what Osama bin Laden could never have dreamed of accomplishing. The warning signs are all around us. How long will we continue to ignore them? The choices that we make individually in the management of our classes have huge long-term consequences!

    Well done, William Major, and bravo, Stanley Fish! Stay the course.

  • low-stakes writing?
  • Posted by Michael Staton , President at Inigral, Inc on July 22, 2008 at 3:00pm EDT
  • We need to get students using good grammar, sentence structure, paragraph structure, and essay structure in their low-stakes on-line writing. Then, it will become habit.

  • On the other hand
  • Posted by jerome gagnon , Teaching Assistant at opt. on July 22, 2008 at 4:40pm EDT
  • Certainly this article reappears from time to time with a different slant. The last one I read questioned whether or not we're creating a "lost generation" of business writers.
    But one slant I haven't read much about is that the current crop of college students represents a vastly different population from those of twenty, or even ten years ago. Many of today's students are non-native speakers, with all the permutations that term suggests. Some native born students have been raised to speak English as a second language; some are immigrants who are still learning the language; others are international students with little familiarity with written English.
    The changing demographic is especially apparent in the San Francisco Bay Area, where non-native speakers often comprise twenty per cent or more of freshman composition classes.
    Yet, oddly, calls for remedial action don't often address this fact. Would-be reformers continue to believe that teachers (or the culture) are simply failing to inculcate students with "proper" grammar and sentence savvy.
    This is a challenging situation for any professor, but it's especially challenging for both literature and (most) composition instructors who have little or no experience working with non-native speakers.
    That said, it's amazing to me to see how hard some students work to achieve written fluency in a second, or sometimes third language.

  • Counter-argument
  • Posted by schencka , English instructor on July 22, 2008 at 5:55pm EDT
  • Teaching composition could not be more important, and it's outsourced to neophytes, etc., etc.

    I graduated with lit MA from one of those zero-benefits, zilch-pay state university English departments -- where dropping to a maximum section size of 24 was celebrated! Further, there was a fairly strong animus between the lit and comp/rhet department.

    One of the leading lit professors regarded comp teaching as lower than dirt, but he made an argument that I could not argue against: a professor's research and own writing is harder, more challenging, and requires amazing feats of delayed gratification, and is therefore the professor's "real work," in his words. The English professors who can't write well aren't doing their real work, simply put, and are probably focused on the short-term joys of the classroom, and not the long-term Sisyphean task of publishing quality original research.

    The fact is that professors who are more interested in their own learning instead of the students' learning shouldn't be relegated to the pseudo-social work of first-year composition. And I write this as a dedicated comp instructor -- but the itch for MY learning I still hold, and I do not think this is a bad thing.

  • Teaching Comp
  • Posted by George T. Karnezis on July 22, 2008 at 10:45pm EDT
  • This piece is not news to those of us who have been in this profession for decades, but what's so sad is to see how little things have changed despite the alleged enhanced status of rhetoric and composition. Working conditions continue to be degraded and the enterprise of assisting students to develop as writers and thinkers remains dissed by all too many. The embarrassingly atrocious recent piece in THE ATLANTIC by one "Professor X" is an unwitting self-indictment of how the allegedly "expert" writing teacher is asking for sympathy for his or her own incompetence.

    There are those in the past who followed in the tradition of people like Wayne Booth or E.P.J. Corbett. They understood how the teaching of writing was the cornerstone of a liberal education and developed a civic capacity, not merely "communication skills." But as the author notes, yet again, the "stars" in the profession get all the accolades, for whatever they are worth, and the sad fact is that we continue to eviscerate the working conditions and careers of those idealistic enough to actually live out their belief that teaching the arts of argument and other compositional forms is a fine ambition, and even, dare one say it, a real vocation --- not mere grunt work except for those who have unfairly been forced to regard it as such.

  • Intro to English Composition?
  • Posted by E. Mack , another low-paid adjunct on July 23, 2008 at 5:05am EDT
  • In all other areas of study, we have introductory classes: Intro to Philosophy; Intro to Biology; Intro to Communications; but in English Composition, we have Comp I and Comp II. Maybe instead, we should have Intro to English Composition. This would teach students not only how sentences and paragraphs and essays should be constructed, but also teach them why it is important to write well and how it will aid them in all areas of their life, some of the concerns mentioned previously. It might also prevent yet another "Childhood Obesity" research essay, of which if I have to read one more, I just might stab my eyeballs with hot pokers.

  • Posted by William major on July 23, 2008 at 5:05am EDT
  • I appreciate everyone's thoughtful comments. I had a fairly well-known professor in grad school who wrote a very well-received book in the popular press, save for the review in his hometown paper. He felt the need to respond, much to the department's delight and consternation.

    I'm not sure I feel the need. On the other hand, it's still early.

    Professor Nelms makes a number of important points, for which I am grateful. On the whole, however, I wonder whether he was reading a different essay. My main question was quite simple: why aren't more professors of English teaching writing? I make very few claims in the article about rhetoric and comp, per se, or the nuts and bolts of teaching it. I don't talk about the scholarship of rhet/comp since this is not the subject of my column.
    Thus:

    "I do not think it an exaggeration to say that the teaching of writing appears secondary to the other, more lofty work of professing literature. Since when did writing become anathema? If writing is so important that
    virtually every student at nearly every college and university must take at least one composition course (and usually two), why aren’t more professors of English teaching it?"

    I simply offer a number of theories as to why writing instruction often has second-class status in the university, especially within English departments.

    Moreover, professor Nelms:

    1. I make no assumptions that all English professors are the same. I wonder--perhaps naively--why English profs (rather than rhet/comp) avoid writing instruction like the plague;

    2. Grunt work: Indeed, it is. Just ask your local adjunct or five and five English prof. Check out the teaching schedule for both full and part-time English instructors at your local community college.

    3. Composition theory: Where did I suggest or imply that there is no past and present history of rhetoric/comp theory and criticism? Foucault/Bakhtin/Kristeva? Please. I worked my way through them and decided that getting my students to understand the art of the semicolon was more important.

    4. English profs and interpretive reading: I think I made this very point in my article.

    5. Grammar: Ah! the rub! I'm afraid that I can never be convinced that grammar is *not* one of the more important features of good writing. It's not the only one. Duh. Since when does talk of grammar/mechanics, etc. turn one into an ogre? What are we afraid of? Success?

    6. Transfer-based question: Here I am in complete agreement with professor Nelms. I'm not sure where I addressed this issue in my article, however.

    7. Language is changing: Did I suggest or imply otherwise?

    8. Undergrads and writing: I teach enough basic composition courses to know that, yes, there is a problem. To argue otherwise tells me that we are winning the war in Iraq, too.

    I obviously value rhet/comp and its long history. I did not imply--or mean to imply--that depts. of writing are not doing their jobs. On the other hand, I haven't seen enough evidence to suggest that a more catholic approach to writing instruction might not be a bad thing. After all, if we value writing across the curriculum (and most of us do), we might wish to get the English (lit) professors off the bench and into the game.

  • Response to the Major/Nelms Debate
  • Posted by Tim Mayers , Associate Professor at Millersville University of Pennsylvania on July 23, 2008 at 10:30am EDT
  • Professor Major’s response to Professor Nelms, like Major’s original column, contains some refreshingly honest admissions and the seeds of a few useful questions. But Major’s undoubtedly well-intentioned argument is undone by his sheer ignorance of most scholarship in composition and rhetoric.

    Major claims to “respect” comp/rhet, and he chides Nelms for reading a “different” essay than the one Major intended. The original essay, Major claims, was not about comp/rhet scholarship and therefore shouldn’t be read as such. Fair enough. But that skirts a more important issue here: If Major did know anything substantial about comp/rhet scholarship, he never would have framed the issue the way he does, and he would have realized that some of the questions he asks—some good questions, I might add—are answered extensively in the available scholarship in comp/rhet.

    To my mind, the best question Major asks is why English (literature) professors, given the opportunity, avoid teaching composition like the plague. His own tentative answers indicate that he is not familiar with (or if he is familiar with, he ignores) the extensive historical scholarship in comp/rhet that sheds light on this question. Sharon Crowley, James Berlin, Susan Miller, Thomas Miller, Stephen North, and many others have written book-length treatments of the teaching of composition, paying special attention to the role composition has played within the structures of English departments over the past 140 years or so. Anyone familiar with this work would not exhibit the sort of gee-whiz approach that Major does.

    The anecdote about the irate phone call from the physics professor serves a rhetorical function painfully familiar to any professor or graduate student in rhetoric and composition: The invocation of crisis. In this often-recycled narrative, student writing is bad and getting worse. Students can’t write comprehensible and correct sentences like they used to be able to do. We’ve fallen away from a golden age—maybe it was ten years ago, maybe twenty, maybe fifty. Things are broken and if we don’t fix them now our whole society will go to hell in a handbasket. But historical and empirical research demonstrate two things quite clearly: First, this “crisis” is nothing new, and it appears to be more a matter of perception than reality. Complaints about the atrocious grammar and mechanics in college students’ writing can be found as far back as 1841. The complaints lodged in 1841, along with those in 1875, and 1975, and 2008, and many of the years in between those . . . all sound remarkably similar. Second, the quality of student writing, if measured by the frequency of grammatical and mechanical errors, has remained essentially unchanged over the past hundred years. And, if examined from other angles, as Professor Nelms points out, student writing is now much better than it ever was. For example, students now write much longer, more fully elaborated papers than they did a hundred years ago.

    I could go on much more, but I will conclude with this: Major’s argument that the teaching of composition might be improved if more experienced English (literature) professors taught composition. I happen to teach at an institution where all members of the English department, from adjuncts to full professors, teach at least a couple of sections of composition each semester. And I can attest that such an arrangement solves none of the problems Professor Major thinks it might solve. In some ways, it may make them worse.

    And as for Major's argument that he'd like to see some evidence that comp/rhet people "have any more success" in teaching writing than those trained in literary interpretation, I would like to ask: How, specifically, would you define success in this context?

  • ARROGANCE!
  • Posted by Former High School Teacher on July 23, 2008 at 11:35am EDT
  • There are so many issues being debated here, and yet the only one to make me angry enough to respond is the attack on K-12 teaching. Having spent 17 years teaching students writing, literature, grammar, punctuation, spelling, public speaking, critical thinking, and multicultural awareness, nad test-taking strategies -- all encompassed in the English curriculum, and all with a mere 45 minutes per day (as long as there were no interruptions), I can say that with legislated curriculum "standards" such as they are, it is a miracle students leave high school knowing ANYTHING well. However, high school writing instruction is at least instruction. College-level instructors know what they want from students but rarely communicate these expectations to their students. They assume that what they want IS good writing...whether it truly is or not. Writing is subjective. Teach your students what you want them to know. Show them what good writing in your discipline looks like. Model good writing for them. And use the huge amounts of time you are given to instruct. That instructional time is only a dream to many high school teachers.

  • Posted by The Grumpy Academic on July 23, 2008 at 12:50pm EDT
  • One gets the sense that the rhetoric/comp folks are a little sensitive about the matter. I’m not sure–and it’s not clear from the article–what Major knows or doesn’t know about rhet/comp theory. But Mayers and Nelms would seem to have some kind of institutional ax to grind (as well as being able to read minds). They may be feeling that they aren’t getting their due, that as composition experts their ideas are still being ignored–especially by literature folks. Maybe they are secretly tired of the whispers in the hallway that what they’re doing really isn’t worthwhile (the same whispers that professors of education have to hear).

    Some of the books Mayers cites as evidence of Major’s ignorance make the point–as Major does–that writing departments have historically been relegated to the back of the bus. It seems to me that Major’s article wants to change this fact. Too bad Nelms and Mayers didn’t get it.

  • Reply to The Grumpy Academic
  • Posted by Tim Mayers , Associate Professor at Millersville University of Pennsylvania on July 23, 2008 at 2:50pm EDT
  • In response to your claim that Professor Nelms and I appear to be "reading minds," I would say, on my own behalf, that I'm reading Professor Major's text. I can't claim with certainty that Professor Major knows little or nothing about composition scholarship. What I can say is that he certainly writes like someone who has scant knowledge of such scholarship. Have you ever read a student essay, or peer-reviewed an article submitted to a journal in your field, and been relatively certain that the author had little knowledge of the topic(s) being addressed? When you've been extensively trained in a field of study, and remain professionally active within it, you can tell these things quite easily.

    By that same token, how do you claim that Professor Nelms and I are "sensitive" about this issue? Did you read our minds?

    You're on target when you note that rhet/comp professors have to live with derisive whispers about the value of their work. And in my experience, quite often the derision is expressed in something considerably louder than a whisper.

    I think you're also on target when you note that Professor Major (perhaps unlike many literature professors) seems to have a genuine interest in the teaching of composition. But your claim that I don't "get" Major's point is laughable. I get his point, all right. I just beleive that his foggy articulation of the "problem" leads him to a "solution" that (as I argue in my earlier post) won't work. You don't get better composition teaching by putting more people who are experts in something else in front of the classroom. (Would anyone seriously argue that we could improve the teaching of mathematics by having more biologists teach introductory math courses?) English departments have been employing this sort of strategy--with regard to composition--for over a hundred years now. The emergence of rhet/comp as a vibrant academic field has only barely begun to disrupt this institutional arrangement. The long-term goal should not be to get more untrained teachers into the composition classroom. It should be to re-examine the entire structure of English departments (hiring, tenure, promotion, undergraduate curricula, etc.) with an eye toward getting writing off the back of the bus and into the driver's seat. Professor Major's solution, as articulated, will not do that.

  • 3 Simple Tests and 5 Basic Points
  • Posted by ezry on July 23, 2008 at 7:30pm EDT
  • Simple test #1: Can your students write correct sentences?

    Sit your students down in a computer lab, so that they have access to at least the minimum of the technology they are used to having as writers (and will always, always have outside the university). Give them 20 minutes, and tell them that they need to write a paragraph of 5-8 sentences about what they did yesterday. Tell them that it needs to be organized chronologically using transitions, and that for each grammatical or organizational error, you will deduct 10% from their final exam score. Make them believe you.

    At all but the most open-admissions colleges, I'd bet nearly all of your students pass with one or fewer errors. The sentences won't be very complex, but I bet they're technically correct (and thus, you've demonstrated that your high schools and Comp 101 classes are teaching college [-bound] students "the basics" pretty well, as it turns out...).

    Simple test #2: Have your students learned something about good writing practices from first-year composition or other writing classes, whether or not they were taught by graduate TAs or tenure-line professors of rhet/comp?

    The next time your students are assigned or turn in a piece of written work for your class, take 10 minutes to ask them about what they know good college-level writers should do. Ask them about what strategies they know about researching, drafting, revising, organizing, focusing, editing, achieving good sentence "flow," avoiding plagiarism. (A few of them may even be able to tell you exactly how to use a semi-colon.) Ask them how many days/weeks a writing assignment like yours would likely take them if it were assigned in Comp 1.

    I bet that, collectively, they pass with flying colors: it's not that they somehow don't know what good writing takes. Invite a comp teacher to your class to verify the answers, if you'd like.

    Simple test #3: If you're brave, take an anonymous straw poll as students turn in their writing assignments (hey, you teach in one of those cool clicker classrooms, don't you?): How many of your students believe they put in the time, strategies, and effort doing *just* the *writing* for your assignment that they know they should have, or that they would have if they'd written the assignment for their "English" teacher? (How many spent a requisite 5 minutes per page *just proofreading*?)

    Note: even anonymously, about a quarter to a third of them are probably still overestimating their efforts, just the way people underestimate their weight unless there's a scale nearby.

    (Supplemental test #3A: Give your students 15 minutes in class to read and correct any syntax-level errors in the assignments they're about to turn in. See what happens.)

    Basic Point #1:
    While you probably do have a percentage of students who cannot possibly "write a simple sentence" under any circumstances, if your school has any admissions standards at all, and isn't more than 15-20% non-native speakers of English, it's probably a very, very small minority. They can be correct; they just weren't consistently correct for your assignment this time. The question is not "how?" but "why?"

    Basic Point #2:
    While you probably have a small contingent of slacker students who get a thrill out of doing as little as possible, and who send cover letters riddled with errors off to prospective employers, mostly what you have are students who are -- like all of us -- making daily judgments about how far they can get by in a situation that isn't life-or-death important without turning their lives inside out for each small success. They could have spent more time and/or energy on your assignment, but they decided not to.

    Basic Point #3:
    When writers have to face upper-level cognitive difficulties, like analyzing the complex results of Magna Carta or the multiple variables of their e-coli lab results or the vagaries of Russian foreign policy, quite often their "basic" level skills suffer: sentences tangle, paragraphs blur and dissolve, transitional markers vanish. (Feeling this happen, less-mature writers often also get really scared, and are thus more tempted to patchwrite or plagiarize from a more competent-sounding source.)

    This is not a wild concept to grasp: people who can ride a bike and can toss a baseball from hand to hand cannot usually do both at the same time. To write well in upper-level college courses, students need to (feel motivated to) plan time for a wacky first draft or two, and then plan additional time for care-full revisions and editing. If your students didn't do this, why didn't they?

    Basic Point #4:
    Writing is not writing is not writing. There is no way that one or two semesters of Comp can prepare a student to write the book reviews in US History AND the lab reports in Cell Biology AND the policy white papers in Post-Colonial African Politics AND the research syntheses in Abnormal Psych AND the business proposals for MGMT 352 AND the literary analyses for ENGL 425, much less their Graduate Theses, for gosh sakes.... If you grant any part of Point #3, this means that *your* writing assignment contributes to student stress and thus is the driving force behind at least some student error. (See Simple Test #1.)

    (Corollary: It doesn't matter if *you* learned to write well without direct instruction in all these fields. YOU were abnormal, as evidenced by the fact that while you could be making a boatload of money in the corporate sector somewhere, you've instead gotten sub-specialized in some branch of academia and made a home for yourself there, by choice, and you're so much part of this small slice of American culture that you read the comments on the HigherEd blog several days after the first article was posted.)

    Basic Point #5: If your students...

    ...believed that you yourself, in your lab or clicker-classroom with your three-exam syllabus and your powerpoint lectures, really, really, really wanted good, thoughtful, analytical, edited writing, and that people outside the university in their Glorious Future Jobs wanted it, and that they would *fail* without it (not the same as earning a frustrated C+ easily balanced out by 3 A's on the exams)...

    ...knew what you wanted, specifically, from this particular writing assignment -- perhaps they'd seen some models, and/or gotten feedback from you on a tentative thesis sentence, and/or worked with peers on an early draft based on criteria you discussed with them, and/or had a Q&A session or conference after they'd written a first draft and figured out what their questions were -- and so went into the final hours of the assignment with a lower cognitive load...

    ...thought the writing-part of the assignment was interesting, and that you would for sure be interested in what they *said* and not just their commasplices (a feeling which they got from the tenor of your comments on the first writing assignment you gave them, because of course you give more than one, because nobody learns to write a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g well in a one-shot try), and were perhaps a bit interested in it themselves and not just working from the nagging feeling (you remember this from being a student, don't you?) that this was all just another hoop to jump through...

    ...and thus started a week or two ahead of the due date and invested even a smidgen of additional time and energy in writing, revising, and editing the document they were about to turn in to you...

    ...then I'm pretty dang sure their writing would magically -- without any change in the writing education they had had before they met you -- improve. (Not to say that comp instructors and writing instructors everywhere shouldn't be compensated better by universities, because they should, but that's another argument.)

    We're all wearing the Ruby Slippers, here, and don't have to wait for Glenda the Good Composition Witch to make our students better writers. If we want better writing -- not perfect writing, but better writing -- from our students, we can assign it, **teach it**, take time to respond thoughtfully to it when students give it to us, proclaim its value in our syllabi and actions and the time we're willing to invest in grading it, and motivate students to value it as well.

    And if *you* -- whoever you are, reading this post -- don't have the time or training or interest to make this investment, or can't possibly get out of teaching your upper-division classes or grad seminars, or think it's not your job, or have some other explanation or excuse, why would you think that some other professor is going to be different, in Literature or Comm or Comp or Basket-Weaving, or that your dean or provost is going to ante up more funds for better writing instruction, or that the state legislature is going to invest more money in K-12 writing education??

    When you've worked with your university's WAC/WID director to learn smart and perhaps-not-so-labor-intensive-as-you-think ways to shoulder your part of the task of teaching students to write/think well, and you've done so with a glad heart and with good faith in what might result (not teeth-gritted against another freakin' apostrophe error, because students can see those gritted teeth and live down to your expectations) and with the patience that's necessary when you're learning a new way of teaching, then come on back to the 'net with your complaints about "student writing," and we can talk some more about what the next really interesting steps can be.

  • Motivation to "Succeed"
  • Posted by Marshall , New Asst Prof at Community college on July 23, 2008 at 7:30pm EDT
  • This discourse is quite timely for me as I am about to embark upon my first full time job teaching comp, developmental reading and writing, and eventually . . . literature. You have motivated me to shift the focus from teaching sytles to understanding how my students best "learn." My argument is that writing standard english and thinking ctitically is not rocket science. With good writing models, current technological supports, regular tutoring resources, as well as a passion, a commitment to spark the students' interest in writing well, I believe we can "succeed" in developing the skills necessary to write well and think critically.

    My mentor at the undergrad level could always be found at his desk; he insisted that his students maintain "the standard" when we wrote and spoke in class. He is my model; of course, since he wasn't computer savvy at all, I'll take what I learned from him and update it slightly.

    Thanks again for letting me listen in on this exchange of ideas. It reminds of the great Booker T vs WEB debate (in this case it's comp and rhet vs. lit -- why not teach comp with lit??) and I'm excited to be one of the professors of English who impact the lives of most, if not all, students who walk onto the campuses of our colleges and universities. A serious responsibility.

  • Abolish freshman composition
  • Posted by beppolina on July 24, 2008 at 11:15am EDT
  • What if there was no mandatory "freshman composition" course?

    What if, instead, there were:

    * remedial/developmental writing courses taught by tenure-track faculty in rhetoric and composition and/or education

    * ESL/ELL-specific writing courses, again taught by tenure-track faculty with the appropriate training and experience

    * fully-staffed campus writing centers for students who need help with their writing in other courses

    * on campuses with the funds and inclination, full departmental status for Rhetoric and Composition where Professor Nelms and his colleagues could go about their application of Foucault and Bakhtin undisturbed.

    I don't know where this would leave the legions of English-dept grad students who are shuffled into comp classes, or the masses of contingent freeway-flyer writing teachers -- but abolish the courses, and you abolish the contingency.

  • Posted by Alex Reid , Assoc. Prof at SUNY Cortland on July 24, 2008 at 11:55am EDT
  • In the fall, ask your first-year students to write a one-page letter to a friend back home telling them about their first week... whatever they want to say. I think you'll find that nearly all of your students can reliably write complete sentences. The letter may even be worth reading (for the person to whom it is addressed). Of course this performance doesn't translate to other writing situations with unfamiliar content, audiences, and purposes.

    Your favorite columnist would face similar difficulties trying to publish an article in a blind-reviewed scholarly journal. Writing skills don't translate easily.

    Composition can introduce students to methods of rhetorical analysis which can help them to identify the discursive features of different writing situations which they might enter. But that doesn't mean you can master a new discourse overnight!

    Composition can also offer students an opportunity to develop a writing practice. A regular writing practice can provide a good foundation for adapting to new writing situations. However it means continuing to write beyond the end of the composition course.

    Most students entering college will tell you they don't like to write. I teach in a writing major and even our majors come in only liking to do certain kinds of writing (mostly "creative writing"). They weren't born disliking writing. They learned their dislike along the way (btw I do not hold K-12 teachers responsible for that). In fact, I don't blame students for disliking writing. Writing is difficult.

  • Posted by A Vuilleumier , ex-pat adjunct on July 24, 2008 at 7:20pm EDT
  • This is all well and good, and some of the teaching ideas are wonderful--thank you--but the essential problem is not that freshmen are being taught by low-quality adjuncts instead of high-quality tenured faculty (as far as I'm concerned tenured faculty have earned the right to teach whatever they wish) the problem is precisely that adjuncts are considered low-quality and are therefore treated and payed like immigrant workers. If adjuncts were treated like normal members of the faculty, given reasonable work loads, and paid appropriately, the quality of both their work and the students' work would improve drastically.

    Why is this point so conveniently forgotten in such discussions? And don't tell me it would be too hard getting the funding. If we all truly cared about adjuncts we would find ways to pay them properly.

  • Mildly Perturbed Physicist
  • Posted by CCPhysicist on July 25, 2008 at 4:55am EDT
  • I'm not irate, but I know the problem. I would have much less difficulty teaching the writing skills my students need to be good engineers or scientists if I didn't have to correct the grammar and syntax flaws that hide their lack of critical thinking skills. Does Dennis Baron fail to see that the process he describes - “OK, let’s fix all these problems: run the spell check, straighten out the agreement, use appropriate technical terms.” - should have been done by the student at an elite university like Illinois before the lab report was turned in? When he wrote that the surface problems HID the deeper problems, didn't he notice that we can't do our part of the job if the flaws are HIDDEN by basic english errors? That is the problem we face.

    As parme giuntini suggests, we DO tell them that it matters. They don't believe us, but we do tell them their job may depend on a report, proposal, or memo. It matters enough to me that I insist on teaching labs so I can teach some of those crucial skills. However, I was never taught how to teach composition, so I prefer that someone else take on the nuts and bolts of grammar and sentence structure and let me focus on the physics.

    Or maybe I should reverse the challenge. If I am expected to teach writing, why don't you use "Physics" by Halliday and Resnick (a true classic from the mid 20th century) in your composition class? There are lots of great ideas to write about in that book, and some fantastic problems to analyze critically in an essay or longer paper. (Including a little bit about the other, more important, Foucault - J.B.Leon, not Michel.) It even has a large number of "discussion" questions that make perfect topics for an essay. I don't want to hear the excuse that you don't know algebra or trig, since those are not needed when dealing with conceptual questions even if they are as elementary as English grammar. Why don't you teach the critical textual analysis of physics word problems in your english class? They are, after all, just made up of English words.

  • Truth Telling
  • Posted by Bob Schenck on July 25, 2008 at 8:30am EDT
  • No one recommends asking students to write down truthfully the most meaningful event of their lives.

    That's basically what I do.

    My role is to help them do that however I can.

    I'm always surprised by the number of people who still demand the building-block approach, grammar, sentence structure, thesis sentence, paragraph and, sometime in the future, an essay.

    It doesn't work for reasons too many and too complex to explain here.

    I appreciated the observation that complaints about student writing are just the same as they've always been even over a hundred years ago.

    I've been in the business forty years and the dialogue on this matter has not changed.

  • how to get it done
  • Posted by terri friel , dean at roosevelt university on July 28, 2008 at 5:05am EDT
  • As a new administrator, just recently moved from the ranks of faculty, I can sympathize with the opinions expressed in this story. However, the anecdotal evidence and lack of complete perspective makes it appear that the choices are easy with no competing issues. As an administrator, I can speak those issues.

    The goal he requires is that the university place appropriate emphasis on the issue of poor writing. (who can disagree with that?)
    He also insists that the only way to accomplish that is through dedicated faculty. (again easy to agree with).

    He himself admits that he didn't want to do this considering it drudgery and unengaging work. (I would agree with that myself having graded those repetitive student assignments that seem to use the same phases and sometimes thoughtlessly conveyed ideas...) I would be willing to bet that he is correct that many faculty aspire to something far more involving and mentally engaging to do.

    Thus we see the first indication that the problem solution he proposes is not as simple as it seems. Administrators are beset with the issues of making faculty happy versus making them unhappy...the repercussions of that being that the administrator may find his/herself ousted over time if faculty are very unhappy. But that is not the issue you decry...student outcomes are...yep and therein lies the conundrum.

    Costs notwithstanding....faculty are not typically interested in student outcome measures these days despite the recent Spellings report...spelling out the idea that we may be held accountable for students who leave the university without adequate education or skills.

    In the long run this is the way to determine what students can do.

    Another major issue is faculty work load. Since the desktop computer arrived, faculty are more involved in developing their lecture material, typing tests and doing a lot of clerical work that was once done by others. Due to costs, the number and availability of student workers and graduate assistants..combined with more non-traditional students and more lucrative assignments elsewhere, faculty have increasingly been laden with work that others used to do for them. Add to that the need to do service work along with the proliferation of adjuncts and part-timers reducing the number of people available to staff all those endless committees typcially very unproductive on slow, bureaucratic college campuses. And finally add accreditation issues and the need to conduct research, fewer outlets for less rigorous scholarly works, and you create the perfect storm for faculty. The demands are much different than they were in the 1980s but many people still envision that faculty member who takes off summers and simply sits in the office and reads or "thinks."
    Personally, that was not my experience as a faculty member. I taught for 17 years. At times I have had 5 preps, done online, televised and in person classes..sometimes three different venues of the same prep where the administrator assumed that because if was the same class number, it was easier than doing three different classes. Right.
    I've never taken a summer off nor have I had a sabbatical. I've been a workhorse my whole academic life. I left industry making $65000 plus bonus, went into debt to get my degree and entered academia at $45000.
    It's a hard job with few rewards beyond students who come back to tell you they loved your class and they are successful because of you. Research provided that needed validation of my worth when nothing else did.

    So what can we do?
    We administrators can begin by acknowledging that teaching is not only noble but also tough. We can find ways to assist our faculty to accomplish what they need to do.
    I've found a company, Edumetry, that offers teaching assistance in the way of grading. It seems odd to outsource grading but what difference is there between that and using teaching assistants to grade? Nothing and Edumetry is better. They are consistent, repeatable, reasonable cost and fast. They use educated MBAs and PhDs who insert comments into student papers and give students feedback, no matter how many times it must be said.
    We can also hire part timers with more reasonable salaries, more reasonable hours and possibly ask them for slightly more dedication to our mission as a consequence. True your budget may go up a bit. However, students and families will pay for value and if your part-timers are completely there, not distracted or over-worked, they can deliver value for you. Not like regular faculty but more than those gypsy faculty.

    Universities need to find new and innovative ways to accomplish our goals. Not insist that we do things the way they used to be done. Costs, resources and demands on faculty make it nearly impossible to do things the old way.

    As I said, while I sympathize with the sentiments in the article, the solution proposed is untenable today. We, faculty and adminstrators need to recognize that and put our collective massive intelligence to finding a solution to developing the next generation into educated critical thinkers, able to write their opinions and ideas well enough for the world to understand them.

  • Outsourced composition instructor
  • Posted by L2 Teacher , Lektor on July 29, 2008 at 7:35am EDT
  • I suspect that the last comment about hiring Edumetry to do grading will be enough to bring Major, Nelms, Mayer together for drinks.

    I find Friel's suggestion that we fix indifferent composition instruction and overworked faculty by using a private outsourcing company appalling. Friel asks rhetorically if there is a difference between hiring Edumetry and a grad student to do the work. I suspect that there is no difference in personnel - that Edumetry exploits academic workers from the same pool as colleges and universities. The difference lies in the fact that Edumetry is now #1 taking a cut of the profit #2 insisting that their employees work weekends (see the careers section) #3 advocating an incredibly short turn-around time for marking (again, see careers) and, although the website is unclear on this point, #4 making unpaid training a hiring requirement.

    Finding new ways to exploit academic workers is not the solution to poor student writing.